Is this the End or The End is Nigh

[Rodbouy]

so say you have a card with 10 family memebers and they all chip in for the card ...

well i would say thats ok ...and not a payserver .cause there is no profit in it ..


but this is the person i dont like a lazy person who will not learn then they pay some overloaded server ..and it starts hicking ..

then they play holy hell and blame sly ..


or they own bars and are out to make huge profits aswell .

dont like this type of person ..

i treat this as a hobby and sort of free tv..for how long it lasts

Yes its just as wrong. Your gaining out of it and so are others.

Its not a hobby when you class it like that, its a method to get cheap tv.

People who build create images on their boxes and dont share their card and like to test stuff, I would say is a hobby.

[leez]

Yes its just as wrong. Your gaining out of it and so are others.

Its not a hobby when you class it like that, its a method to get cheap tv.

People who build create images on their boxes and dont share their card and like to test stuff, I would say is a hobby.

i dont see it that way really ,, ..because i actually use it to trade for footie ..so it is a hobby .. i want to watch the team i suport away from home if i can .

im also a season ticket holder so nobody loses.

[ohno]

I'm entitled to post what i want within the rules,what gives you the right to say otherwise ? Just cos it's contrary to your opinion,the only one looking a 'rdney' ;here is you,and as for horse manure, what's that smell? sorry mate did you say something?

do you not think 170 posts on a subject that has less than 10 posts with facts in them is a joke or even a good read.

wat i posted is not my opinion its not anybodys opinion its actually a fact

1 card in server with 2 clients = glitch 2nd card in same server with same 2 clients = no glitch, first card back in = glitch second card bak in = no glitch tested this more than six times same result card that took update 3weeks ago is slower than my multiroom sd card both with average ecm and first card sspikes to over 0.7 were as multiroom card never goes above 0.15 been using these cards in this set up for over 2 years with no problem also for you clever fellas who keep talkin about it being a longer algo could someone explain why the slower card provides 9 bytes per minute in ecm s less than the multiroom card (tested same time same channel in pc server in omnikeys) switched cards in omnikeys same result should it not be the other way round?

the fact that this provider is changing the way it pairs its hd cards in all probability is nothing to do with what some people are experiencing. (they wouldnt risk dump from older boxes)
if everybody affected posted some constructive info like hd card or sd when was last update how was it updated was it hd updated in sd box when did it start this might not even be anti cs measure but if it is dont cod yourselves that blade or this box or that box running this cam or that cam is not going to be affected it will be accross the board .

contrary to your opinion it is my opinion new hd pairing will stop hd cs with this provider but to many old boxes to do anything about sd apart from update sotware to slowdown or speed up tsop responce to reduce massively the number of clients off each card.

ps a new cccam is not going to happen due to the fact the team didnt develop anything since 214 only leaked the source code to somebody to add a couple of tweeks actually developed for oscam.

sorry mate now i said something!

[andy91]

End of day however you look at it your getting one over the fat cat,and if thats stealing its stealing simple.
Greedy people ruin it for everyone but if we all had only one person on their server its one to many,they all add up whether its one or a thousand.
Worry about it when it happens.

Andy.

[marty47]

do you not think 170 posts on a subject that has less than 10 posts with facts in them is a joke or even a good read.

wat i posted is not my opinion its not anybodys opinion its actually a fact

1 card in server with 2 clients = glitch 2nd card in same server with same 2 clients = no glitch, first card back in = glitch second card bak in = no glitch tested this more than six times same result card that took update 3weeks ago is slower than my multiroom sd card both with average ecm and first card sspikes to over 0.7 were as multiroom card never goes above 0.15 been using these cards in this set up for over 2 years with no problem also for you clever fellas who keep talkin about it being a longer algo could someone explain why the slower card provides 9 bytes per minute in ecm s less than the multiroom card (tested same time same channel in pc server in omnikeys) switched cards in omnikeys same result should it not be the other way round?

the fact that this provider is changing the way it pairs its hd cards in all probability is nothing to do with what some people are experiencing. (they wouldnt risk dump from older boxes)
if everybody affected posted some constructive info like hd card or sd when was last update how was it updated was it hd updated in sd box when did it start this might not even be anti cs measure but if it is dont cod yourselves that blade or this box or that box running this cam or that cam is not going to be affected it will be accross the board .

contrary to your opinion it is my opinion new hd pairing will stop hd cs with this provider but to many old boxes to do anything about sd apart from update sotware to slowdown or speed up tsop responce to reduce massively the number of clients off each card.

ps a new cccam is not going to happen due to the fact the team didnt develop anything since 214 only leaked the source code to somebody to add a couple of tweeks actually developed for oscam.

sorry mate now i said something!

You insulted my intelligence and my right to post on this forum in the post you made earlier, which i duly reported if this is to use your own words in a previous post' over your head' I'm sorry for you you seem to steamroll your own ,for want of a better phrase diatribe, again I did not dispute anything you said I offered support to another posters point of view which for some inane reason you took umbrage to only you can answer why ,best not tho as i do have a life to lead

[andy91]

Think some of you boys such take this to pm and not voice your opinions openly.
This is heading like other threads that get shut which would be a shame.

Andy,

[satsmo]

First warning from me to both of you and this will be my one and only.

Aftermath has already had to step in on the last "handbags at two paces" posts. For people professing the lack of on topic posts within a thread and then adding to them with off topic rhetoric is somewhat bewildering.

[jr27485]

well just had a read at most of the post and it is the same thing that has happed with the hobby since the end of the 1980s it is the case of the four monkeys !! speak none see none hear none and hey s**t happens . jr27485.

[ohno]

ok sorry point taken at the end of the day who cares

[digidude]

i posted a long reply to this, and when i pressed to post, i got the message 'this thread is closed'

??

[digidude]

heres the basics of what i had posted, but this time, copy / pasted my own posts from another forum

ive known about the existence of this pdf for about 7 months m8 and for even longer, ive said that the first things to go down, will be HD channels on CS systems

potentially, it can wipe out the HD and 3D channels, all of the things gearing towards this started over a year ago, when they started to shift HD channels onto grouped transponders, so there was ONLY HD content on single TPs, they then updated the viewing cards OS, and more recently have started updating the receiver OS. the card pairing in the receivers is not 101% reliant on the extra end digit in the serial number, which isnt always a decimal figure, but without that, the card pairing WILL fail, every time, however, this end digit IS NOT needed to manually generate the receivers boxkey

there will still be a while left, for reasons that i know but cannot disclose, but, the first things to go WILL be the HD content, its not a question of IF it happens, but WHEN it happens

the only people who know any form of time scale is those at the top of the NDS security chain. when it happens, there will probably be a new wave of receivers soon after, just like when cable went off, and the kryptview and starview receivers came around, but these would probably be expensive, and still not guaranteed

this has been 'coming' for around a year, and tbh i expected it around mid october, as it would then give people and sly enough time to subscribe and get installed for xmas, but now, in the back of my mind, april 6th seems to be a nice date, as its the start of the next 'tax' year, and a new surge in subscribers would please shareholders

[ITS A SCAM !]

ok sorry point taken at the end of the day who cares

I care as its my hobby .. the wife will start organising jobs for me to do and arranging days out if she notices me sitting idle

[andy91]

Nice to read something constructive digidude and if your the same person who frequents another well known forum I can believe its a matter of time.
Hope you can hang around I know your
top notch when it comes to sat.

Andy.

[Murf22]

hd this hd that.. it's not just hd channels that are affected. there's a small bunch on non-hd that I sometimes watch that have stood out. History/Discovery..

someone fancy checking a theory though, I swicthed to one of the duplicates of a particular channel and it was much quicker.. when the adverts came on I reolised it was the irish version.. can't really rely on my family to work out what channels are what.. and I don't have a lot of time in front of the gogglebox

[ITS A SCAM !]

hd this hd that.. it's not just hd channels that are affected. there's a small bunch on non-hd that I sometimes watch that have stood out. History/Discovery..

someone fancy checking a theory though, I swicthed to one of the duplicates of a particular channel and it was much quicker.. when the adverts came on I reolised it was the irish version.. can't really rely on my family to work out what channels are what.. and I don't have a lot of time in front of the gogglebox

Surely if you are connected to someone who has Irish 0963 card and also has a really low ping, you will get a quicker ECM time than the Uk based server who has a poor ping ?