Am l asking for too much?

[RuberDuck]

I'm becoming more and more confused, my dish fitter tells me that no matter what equipment l get, l won't be able to watch one channel while recording another, l thought that was the idea behind twin tuners and a HD, l'll be cancelling Sly and making use of the FTA channels, can anyone put me in the picture please?

Call up your dish installer and tell him his a idiot, given the right setup you can watch and record different channels on totally different satellites if you wanted to.

[ramjet]

as above

the whole point on having 2 tuners is to be able to watch one channel and record another channel, or to record 2 different channels at the same time. this is the same principle that sly plus uses, although they have a single fixed dish on 28e with quad lnb , so you could be watching itv1HD and recording bbc1HD for instance (to stay within the rules here) using both tuners and both feeds from that quad lnb. OR you could be recording both of those channels and watching a previous recording made from any 28e channel

now if you had a solo2 or duo2 with one tuner on a motorised dish and the other a feed from your sly dish, the sly feed could be recording bbc1HD from the fixed dish at 28e and you could be watching nova sport from 39e using the tuner connected to your motorised dish

there are other possibilities depending on transponders for even more recordings but I have deliberately kept the analogy as simple as possible just to show how stupid that installer is

[kernel gadaffi]

As RuberDuck and ramjet said, about recording 2 programmes from 2 satellites, but can this be on the same receiver or will one have to be from the Sly box and the other from say, a Technomate?

[ramjet]

As RuberDuck and ramjet said, about recording 2 programmes from 2 satellites, but can this be on the same receiver or will one have to be from the Sly box and the other from say, a Technomate?

any pvr tuner can watch or record from a satellite dish

you could have a twin tuner sly plus HD box recording 2 programmes on 28e, and you could have a twin tuner technomate recording another 2 programmes on 28e, if all 4 tuners on the 2 boxes were on the quad lnb from the sly dish

alternatively, the technomate twin tuner could be on a dual lnb on a motorised dish pointed at 28e, with 2 recordings on that box and 2 different recordings on the sly plus HD box

the point here is that the boxes can record from any satellite the dish is pointed at (sly only works on 28e though), so it depends on the number of tuners employed in tthe whole of the boxes employed

there is no reason why you cannot use 4 twin tuner boxes and record 8 different channels, there are some boxes like the vu ultimo that can have more than 2 tuners inside, meaning even more choice, and I believe the new vu duo2 can have 4 tuners inside

my point is that its all governed by the number of tuners you have, with each on its own feed

so you could have a tm twin , a duo , a solo2 and a duo 2 for instance, giving 8 tuners (or more)

[kernel gadaffi]

Thanks for replying again, my installer originally told me, if I had no Sly dish or receiver fitted and only the TM2T with a dual or quad LNB fitted to the dish, I could record 1 channel and watch another at the same time, using a fixed or motorised dish as long as the channels were on the same satellite or two were close together, is this the case?

[ramjet]

I am not going to comment on what you say he said, I stick by what I have said, all the info you require is in my answers

[kernel gadaffi]

My apologies if I've offended you ramjet, but this is all new to me and I'm feeling well out of my depth and beginning to wonder if my installer is pulling my trousers down?

Cheers..

Alan.

[ramjet]

My apologies if I've offended you ramjet, but this is all new to me and I'm feeling well out of my depth and beginning to wonder if my installer is pulling my trousers down?

Cheers..

Alan.

yes I understand that, but your recollection of what you think he said is not factual, its purely your naive interpretation of his comments

if I had heard what he said, I may have interpreted it differently, it may be correct what he said but you must have heard of chinese whispers, so if you get him to type in his exact words we could have a dialogue, but your comments are hearsay and inadmissable, if you catch my drift

if you carefully read what I have said, it does make sense and it fully explains the theory

I have been in this game more than 12 years and so I clearly have a good understanding of it, you admit you are new to this game, so its not surprising to me or anyone else that you do not understand it, most people dont as they have a very narrow view clouded by the sly factor (its all they know)

suffice to say that using a twin tuner box on 28e from a dish with a quad lnb and 2 coaxial cable feeds allows totally independent switching and use of each tuner, and you can record 2 completely different channels, or you can watch one channel and record a different channel, and that is the exact basis that sly sell sly plus HD on

[happy_highlander]

Thanks for replying again, my installer originally told me, if I had no Sly dish or receiver fitted and only the TM2T with a dual or quad LNB fitted to the dish, I could record 1 channel and watch another at the same time, using a fixed or motorised dish as long as the channels were on the same satellite or two were close together, is this the case?

Ok let me have a go in very simple terminology.
With a tm2t.
If you have a two feed lnb (dual) fitted to your sly dish you can watch one channel and record another, This is a fixed system (dish does not move). On a motorised system (dish does move). You can still do the same with a dual lnb but only from the sat the dish is pointing at. I.e two channels from 13?e at the same time or two from 28.2?e what you can't do is watch one channel on 13?e and record another on any other sat. No matter how close. If you do want to be able to watch one channel on say 13?e and record a channel on another sat you will need to tell us now as that requires a bit more planning on your part but is still fairly easy to do

[kernel gadaffi]

If you do want to be able to watch one channel on say 13?e and record a channel on another sat you will need to tell us now as that requires a bit more planning on your part but is still fairly easy to do.

You've hit the nail right on the head, thats exactly it, l've also got myself a different installer.

Cheers.

Alan

[ramjet]

If you do want to be able to watch one channel on say 13?e and record a channel on another sat you will need to tell us now as that requires a bit more planning on your part but is still fairly easy to do.

You've hit the nail right on the head, thats exactly it, l've also got myself a different installer.

Cheers.

Alan

if you had one tuner (tuner B) on 28e on your current fixed dish for sly then that can deal with 28e, and have a motorised dish on tuner A in order to get 13e hotbird or any satellite, including 28e

your problems would occur if you wanted say 13e + 19e , or 16e + 39e , or 19e + 23.5e , the problem being you need a dish pointed at each of your choices, or one dish with multiple lnb,s on it that get a few satellites

in simple terms , you are probably going to have to stick with the first option, a motorised dish on tuner A and a fixed sly dish feed from your present dish with quad lnb on tuner B

[happy_highlander]

Here is my fixed system with 4 sats on one dish and 28 coming from my standard sly dish. The way this is set I can watch and record 2 different channels from any of the 5 sats at the same time
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All lnb's have two or more outputs

[kernel gadaffi]

Gentlemen, you've just sorted me out, yippee, thank you a million fold, 1 question for happy highlander, are you recording on the VU or the TM5402?

[happy_highlander]

Both. But usually the vu+ solo as the tm5402 is in the living room so that get used as main box the solo is just my toy both have external hdd attached and record equally as well as each other it is easier to stream the recording from the solo though. And if needs must and missus is out shopping on a sat I have been know to watch one game on tm and stream a different one from solo to laptop so I can watch both at same time. Both my boxes are single tuner but that makes no difference as except space as the principal is exactly the same using two single tuner boxes as it is for one dual tuner

[ramjet]

Here is my fixed system with 4 sats on one dish and 28 coming from my standard sly dish. The way this is set I can watch and record 2 different channels from any of the 5 sats at the same time
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All lnb's have two or more outputs

@ highlander - you could hang another lnb off the sly lnb with a multi bracket and get 39e as well (on the left when looking from the front of the dish)
I did this at my brothers house and it works fine for nova and diema on 39 east