One dish, 3 satellites??

[sachin_tendulkar]

Hi all

I am wondering if someone can help me. I have taken in a lot of information in the last few weeks. Some of it I have managed to understand. I am trying to find a way to get some free channels via satellite. I am fully aware it is not possible through S*y without CS and in either case, I am not really interested in CS anyway. Is the following possible :

1. Have one satellite dish and attach 3 TWIN (not dual LNBs. From what I can understand, dual only has one output and it needs to be controlled to watch only one satellite at a time. Whereas a twin has two independent LNBs that can be controlled separately)?
2. Each of the 3 LNBs points at a different satellite (Example, Astra 1, 2 and Hotbird)
3. The six outputs from the 3 LNBs go to a multiswitch that has a minimum of eight outputs
4. We have 4 rooms in the house and therefore each room takes two outputs from the multiswitch (for future purposes, this will allow us to watch one channel while recording another)

Is this a possible setup? The reason I haven't mentioned a motorised dish is so that each room can watch any of the channels from any of the three satellites without having to move the dish. How big does the dish need to be for it to house 3 twin LNBs? Are there any images/CAMs out there that allow you to watch channels for free from non s*y satellites without CS? I would guess this setup will still allow you to watch freesat via Astra 2 (same as s*y satellite). From what I have read, the dreambox will be able to control the multiswitch via Diseqc (i.e each room can have its own dreambox that can tune into any channel from the three satellites). Are there any other non s*y satellites that broadcast similar content (sports, films, etc) that can be gotten for free?

Any help will be great. If I am being a complete twit, feel free to say so and suggest alternative setup.

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

plz may you put all posts regarding this setup in one thread as this will make it easier for us to help. pleeeaaassee.
id personally go for 90cm or 3 dishes on a diseqc switch with twin lnb or quad lnb on the three dishes.(expensive but better for the rainy and low signal days). which sats are u looking for?

[Devilfish]

I have a motorised dish so I'm probably not the best person to answer but it may help so here goes...

You could get a 6 degree monoblock which would allow you to access two satellites at the same time using the one dish.

Lemon .2DB 6 Degree Twin OutputMonoblock LNB [lemtwinmono] - ?20.00 : Wizard Satellite, Satellite receivers, dishes, lnbs and equipment

You could also get a multiblock which could hold more than one lnb.

Multi LNB Brackets : Wizard Satellite, Satellite receivers, dishes, lnbs and equipment

As I said, I don't have much experience with this sort of thing but hope it helps.

[Curious123]

As you don't have any satellite experience I would advise buying an 80cm - 1m motorised dish and a dreambox. Once you have sufficient knowledge I would suggest you consider doing all your other rooms the way have enquired in your post.

[sachin_tendulkar]

I am looking for Astra 1 (19.2), 2 (28.2) and Hotbird (13).

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Thanks Curious, but I am not planning on doing this myself. However, I do want to understand what is involved to make sure I am not ripped off, i.e not sold an expensive solution. Also, as cables will need to be routed through the house, it is best to make mess just once.

It is true that I am a newbie, hence the reason for asking this question. However, in my opinion it is better to try and understand all the possibilities first and then pick out the best one that is suitable for the situation, rather than picking one that is easier at the time and then go back and change it all once enough knowledge has been gained. I'd rather try and get it right first time AFTER having gained the necessary knowledge. That doesn't mean I will get it right, but it is worth trying.

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

oh thats easy, a sky zone 2 dish and quad lnb for 28.2, 80cm dish with a quad monoblock dedicated to 13e and 19.2.then your sorted although u may wanna look at 1w.

[sachin_tendulkar]

Does this mean that the dish pointing at 28.2 has 4 outputs, each can be routed to each of the 4 rooms? Then, there is another dish that is looking at the other two satellites and again it has 4 outputs that go to each room? This requires no multiswitches or anything. However, I am assuming it will be impossible to have the + functionality (watch one and record another). What is on 1W?

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Also, if you have two different dishes, how do you take the output of the two and put it into one box? I understand that the monoblock LNB is controlled by diseqc, which the dreamboxes are able to do. Problem is how do you get one box to take two different inputs (one is controlled by diseqc and the other is straight connection)?

[krazylegz]

Does this mean that the dish pointing at 28.2 has 4 outputs, each can be routed to each of the 4 rooms? Then, there is another dish that is looking at the other two satellites and again it has 4 outputs that go to each room? This requires no multiswitches or anything. However, I am assuming it will be impossible to have the + functionality (watch one and record another). What is on 1W?

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Also, if you have two different dishes, how do you take the output of the two and put it into one box? I understand that the monoblock LNB is controlled by diseqc, which the dreamboxes are able to do. Problem is how do you get one box to take two different inputs (one is controlled by diseqc and the other is straight connection)?

you will need the individual feeds to go into a diseqc switch or chop and change the input feeds manually.

digi tv is the hacked package on 1w which shows quite a bit epl footy at the min Hi m8,Cant remember TBH,but it was no more then 14 days.
http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/digi.html

[sachin_tendulkar]

This may be stupid question, but if I put the Astra 2 into one port and the monoblock output into the other port of the Diseqc switch, it will give me an output for a single receiver. But then, how would the receiver choose between Astra 1 and Hotbird from the monoblock lnb? Or are you saying that I should have 3 separate dishes?

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

In the menu you set diseqc1.0 as 1 and diseqc as 2 considering that you have put the dishes in slot 1 and 2 on the switch. Remember you will need 4 of these switches. 1w has a host of english discovery and nat geo channels along with some sport channels which are very good for epl.

[sachin_tendulkar]

I have been looking at some of the manuals of the dreamboxes. In the setup of satellites, these manuals say that if you have two LNBs, you select Diseqc and then configure port A and port B as single satellite. In my case, port A will be Astra 2 and port B will have to be either Astra 1 or Hotbird. This is where I am getting lost. How does the receiver know it is a monoblock LNB and it is somehow supposed to signal for Astra 1 or Hotbird? Or are the manuals incomplete and there is an option other than a single satellite?

[krazylegz]

a monoblock acts as indivivual lnbs, but its not really.

it knows what satellite exactly the same way a motor does by what channel you select, if you select a channel on hotbird it will automaticly use the hotbird feed as it knows by the cahnnel details stored on the receiver, frequecy, pids etc

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

Very rare that i ask a satellite related question but Can somebody confirm that a monoblock is read as one lnb or is this a misunderstanding. This is no attempt to hijack but just thought this might also help the op.

[krazylegz]

afaik they are read as one....whatever satellite you're on then the switch automaticly switches it to the other lnb when you select a channel on the other satellite

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

afaik they are read as one....whatever satellite you're on then the switch automaticly switches it to the other lnb when you select a channel on the other satellite

Thanks alot as i have never had one but now i will be able to help in the future.