NO SIGNAL... nothing works at all. Openbox S10 and Skybox F3

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  • DW190
    DK Veteran
    • May 2012
    • 1263

    #16
    Originally posted by pbul2004
    That's what i don't understand either, it works perfectly at patents they haven't even seen if jump and we get the line from the same guy.

    Could it be an Internet issue? If so i thought it says scrambled.

    Not too sure what you mean mate by checking the gift to see if its online, how would I that n ill have a look.

    Thanks
    Menu, Network Local, ****Setup, Client Setup, Manage Config, *****.cfg. You should now see a line with a tick at the end and it will say either Online, Offline or Login.

    This is on F3 so may be slightly different on S10.

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    • P&D
      DK Veteran
      • May 2010
      • 2686

      #17
      For me if the box works for 1 hour the goes back to no signal
      it sounds like something is over heating
      possible its the part the de-codes the signal ???

      Again if it works for 1 hour then goes to no signal leave the box disconnected for 1 hour (unplug all leads) then when its cooled down try it again
      if it does the same the problem must be the box...

      Not sure if the tuner can over heat but for ?15 its worth a shot

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      • Hadron
        V.I.P. Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 2102

        #18
        Originally posted by P&D
        For me if the box works for 1 hour the goes back to no signal
        it sounds like something is over heating
        possible its the part the de-codes the signal ???

        Again if it works for 1 hour then goes to no signal leave the box disconnected for 1 hour (unplug all leads) then when its cooled down try it again
        if it does the same the problem must be the box...

        Not sure if the tuner can over heat but for ?15 its worth a shot
        ...but pbul2004 is currently using his parents F3 box, which works fine at his parents house. Unless pbul2004 has the F3 sitting on something thats generating a lot of heat, then it can't be an overheating problem. I suppose pbul2004 could try blowing a fan on it if he has one handy, just to check.

        From his previous posts, his S10 currently has the inner conductor of the cable feed stuck in the socket, so is unusable for now, but these models did suffer from overheating on the tuner board, as did S9's & S11's (not sure about later models). It was component F1 (polyswitch resettable fuse) which would go O/C or high resistance causing the tuner to stop working. But again, this fault would affect all channels.

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        • pbul2004
          Member
          • Sep 2011
          • 54

          #19
          I have an MGCamd Plug setup on my network settings. My parents have the same setup and its ok.

          I am currently using their box now.

          I had an ethernet cable hardwired from router into the back of the box, to rule of a dodgy lead i have used internet 500mbs plugs, all green on the router, and i can successfully watch YouTube videos using the apps section under Network settings.

          Also under Network settings i have the green light to say the internet connection to the box is active and ok.

          The surface where the box is located is very cool, there are no other devices on or around it apart from the TV, plus we got window open near it today.

          Again... it was working resonably ok for an hour, (i thought the internet plugs solved it as lead might have been dodgy) then just now im getting the usual NO SIGNAL and its totally unwatchable.

          Think this is a challenge for anyone to solve this because im really stumped.

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          • pbul2004
            Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 54

            #20
            1.JPG2.JPG3.JPG4.JPG5.JPG

            I press INFO a few times to see the signal strength, and when the tv starts breaking up, this is what is shown above.

            It keep jumping from 75% down to 5% then its up and down till eventually it either says NO SIGNAL or it comes back on for a bit then does the same thing!!!

            I am also going to purchase a new ethernet cable - will this work on the box? HERE

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            • Hadron
              V.I.P. Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 2102

              #21
              Yep. That cable will work.

              I know I have asked this before, but just to clarify one last time. When you get no signal on a $ channel, do the FTA channels still work?

              Do you have any other boxes connected to the same LNB such as an official $ly+ box?

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              • pbul2004
                Member
                • Sep 2011
                • 54

                #22
                Nothing else connected just the f3 box only.

                $ channels are all doing the no signal thing.

                EDIT: FTA channels are working ok, does freeze a little bit but when comparing to $ channels they are 10x worse!

                So i think FTA are ok but $ are totally screwed!
                Last edited by pbul2004; 31 August, 2013, 16:47.

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                • sattv5
                  DK Veteran
                  • May 2013
                  • 376

                  #23
                  If I was to put money on it, I would say it was your dish is not aligned properly.
                  You would have to be extremely unlucky to have 2 boxes go faulty on you. The reason why you get some FTA channels working when the box goes faulty is because certain transponders are stronger than others (BBC 1 HD/ITV HD Channels are really strong in most places) where as CBS Reality/CBS Reality +1 & Sony TV have weaker signals.
                  The intermittent fault could be caused by the wind picking up, rain, an obstruction in the way of the satellite..

                  Go to any of the weaker transponder channels I mentioned and check it works, both now and when the fault occurs.
                  Press info on the remote control 3 times and make a note of Signal Intensity & Signal quality (Although these boxes aren't accurate) it will give you a good idea of whats going on.

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                  • pbul2004
                    Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 54

                    #24
                    CBS Reality works fine.

                    What i have done is the sky coax cable is split into 2, so what i have done is i have swapped them over and used the other cable, i had to create a new thread for it.

                    So far so good, the other cable seems to be doing the trick so far, so im thinking the cable i had in was damaged.

                    Its still one cable but split into 2, im guessing for the twin tuner on sky. But the other cable seems to be working.

                    Got the Sky Sports 1 on and its not glitched yet the whole game, ill report back later after a few hours let you know, cheers everyone

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                    • DW190
                      DK Veteran
                      • May 2012
                      • 1263

                      #25
                      Originally posted by pbul2004
                      CBS Reality works fine.

                      What i have done is the sky coax cable is split into 2, so what i have done is i have swapped them over and used the other cable, i had to create a new thread for it.

                      So far so good, the other cable seems to be doing the trick so far, so im thinking the cable i had in was damaged.

                      Its still one cable but split into 2, im guessing for the twin tuner on sky. But the other cable seems to be working.

                      Got the Sky Sports 1 on and its not glitched yet the whole game, ill report back later after a few hours let you know, cheers everyone
                      Look like the new end you sorted on the cable has cured the problem. Probably one of the outer strands was touching the inner. Remember when you have twin cable and only use one of them the other is still alive picking up its power through the LNB from your cable thats screwed into you box.

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                      • cactikid
                        V.I.P. Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 12017

                        #26
                        skybox and providers box dont like each other as they have lnb issues,one of the major downfalls of a cheap box,and i hope you did not mean you have 1 cable split feeding 2 boxes?l

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                        • DW190
                          DK Veteran
                          • May 2012
                          • 1263

                          #27
                          Originally posted by cactikid
                          skybox and providers box dont like each other as they have lnb issues,one of the major downfalls of a cheap box,and i hope you did not mean you have 1 cable split feeding 2 boxes?l
                          From the way I read it the cable is twin for + box but one of the cables was unused(possibly shorting and going back through the LNB) and had to have the F connector fitted. That appeared to remove the problem but time will tell.
                          Last edited by DW190; 31 August, 2013, 21:44.

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                          • cactikid
                            V.I.P. Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 12017

                            #28
                            what i read "Its still one cable but split into 2, im guessing for the twin tuner on sky. But the other cable seems to be working." its what they dont tell us

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                            • DW190
                              DK Veteran
                              • May 2012
                              • 1263

                              #29
                              Originally posted by cactikid
                              what i read "Its still one cable but split into 2, im guessing for the twin tuner on sky. But the other cable seems to be working." its what they dont tell us

                              Its still one cable but split into 2, im guessing for the twin tuner on sky. But the other cable seems to be working.
                              I'm sure he means the twin cables that just part easy. (may be wrong). "The other cable" but no mention of a splitter.

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                              • pbul2004
                                Member
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 54

                                #30
                                Sorry for confusion, yead DW190 is correct. One of the cables was unused. So just swapped them over.

                                Got a full day of football on tomorrow so ill get a true idea if its worker tomorrow. Fingers crossed, cheers for your help

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