VU Duo Red Light

[alec]

C807 & ICI this.jpgduoAO1212.jpgVU Reg 1.jpg

anyone ? ?

After changing capacitor the voltages should be as diagramC807.jpg
If not the regulator B could be damage. By measuring input voltage and out put voltage, with only the power cable connected.

[Saltire]

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After changing capacitor the voltages should be as diagram[ATTACH=CONFIG]250277[/ATTACH]
If not the regulator B could be damage. By measuring input voltage and out put voltage, with only the power cable connected.

Thanks Alec for that info and the photo's, cheers mate

Looks like my own photo's and the parts I circled in red were correct afterall they pretty much show the same picture as the ones you posted too, so they are obviously correct and that's great to see that this has been confirmed again, thank you

Its also VERY good to know that the "negative" leg for the capacitor goes to the "white coloured" marked out part on the motherboard, I wasn't sure about that and I am not too sure if the old guy doing the job would have known either, so this is very good info to know.

Talking about positive and negative polarities etc though, how would we know which way round the regulator goes ? (and is there a way to defo tell which leg on the capacitor is positive or negative too on the actual capacitor its self I mean, not the board), on the subject of the regulator again now, just for instance if the new one didn't have any writing on it or something like that which I can only presume they all would do, but just for talking sake, how would we know which way round that regulator gets fitted if there was no words or numbers on it to match up with the one that is being taken out ? Just wondering.

p.s
I still haven't been able to order my parts yet as I had to get a new bank card and it takes paypal a couple of days to send the code through to my online bank account thngy, so I am still waiting on that, might be good to go tonight though and therefor I will be able to get the parts ordered at last Either way, its been maybe better this way so that I got all the answers I required so that I can pass the details onto the old guy that's going to be doing the tricky parts of work

[Saltire]

ohh man, what a pain in the neck it was getting my new debit card sorted out with the bank and paypal, done now though

So, I have went slightly overboard here, but for the price I thought best just to get what I got, which are these items here that you guys suggested >>>

330uF 16v Capacitor by Panasonic - Pack of 2 (EEUFC1C331) 11.5mm x 8mm | eBay

AND ALSO

Vu Duo (Red Light) | eBay

So I am guessing they hopefully will be delivered by mid week so that I can get the box to the guy for the end of the week hopefully

I think someone said what I was thinking too, while he's working on it he might as well change the capacitor and the regulator at the same time, makes sense I guess.

Can someone please tell me, those capacitors that you guys showed me and I bought from two different people as you can see, are those caps exactly the same and will do exactly the same job nomatter which one he chooses to fit in the mentioned place ? You know how they appear to advertise two different brand but they look exactly the same thing to me, a bit like when you get medication from the doctor (GP) the chemist can either give you the brand that is well known or the generic ones but end of the day they are exactly the same thing, is that the same with those capacitors, let me know eh please ?

Cheers and thanks again

[cactikid]

yes fix once,could be hundreds of makers of caps some cheaper or dearer and if specs are the same do the same job.
bit like buying car oil shell and mobil but one maybe better than the other but do same job.

[alec]

Regarding the capacitors, it is usually the heat that kills them. When I changed mine I noticed the original was max 85c. I changed mine to Panasonic EEUFC1E331
25v 105c, before they became a problem. Also the real cost of these capacitors is less than 50 pence each, and there are a lot of rip off merchants around the net, and on Ebay.

[Saltire]

Regarding the capacitors, it is usually the heat that kills them. When I changed mine I noticed the original was max 85c. I changed mine to Panasonic EEUFC1E331
25v 105c, before they became a problem. Also the real cost of these capacitors is less than 50 pence each, and there are a lot of rip off merchants around the net, and on Ebay.

ohh, 25v one you put in by Panasonic, damn, those Panasonic ones I ordered are only 16v , the other one I ordered that you can also see above, the guy doesn't even say what volts or temp that is

Suppose I could message him on ebay though

[DOUGALMCD]

The panasonic ones would be fine as they are 105c and should be good quality. The other ones are 50v but cant see temp.

[Saltire]

The panasonic ones would be fine as they are 105c and should be good quality. The other ones are 50v but cant see temp.

ok the guy got a message back to me, he said that other one (not the Panasonic ones), he said as you said "DOUGALMCD" mate, plus I now see myself too on the photo when I looked closely at it too, they are 50v right enough, and the guy said they are 105c temp.

So would I be best to tell the guy that's doing the job to try that one first and if something happens like he makes a mistake with it for example then he can always use the one of the Panasonic ones instead, does that sound like the best idea because that other one is 105c temp and 50v and the Panasonics are 105c - 16v, this sound like the best idea people ?

Thanks again

[cactikid]

is that saltire we have a problem its like this are we there yet yes

[Saltire]

The Box will boot with it just plugged into the wall and nothing else connected to it, at the moment you have just a Red Light if after the cap has been replaced your repair man should check to see if the Duo boots with anything appearing on screen such as the Booting... Logo at least then you know this may have fixed the issue. If you also purchased the regulator then he may as well change that also while the PSU is out of the main chassis.

Ok guys, thanks again to all of you

That's me just finally got the parts phewwwwww, took forever man, held up in the post etc etc etc , anyway, I have the parts now and all the instructions from all you guys and I have wrote everything down and stuck the note in the box for the guy so that he knows exactly what parts are what etc (hopefully get the box to him tomorrow or during this week at some point).

I was looking again at your post I have quoted here "digicon" and noticed that you said "If you also purchased the regulator then he may as well change that also while the PSU is out of the main chassis".

I was wondering if you just made a mistake with that statement or what because it confused me slightly as it looks to me as if the PSU is on a separate little motherboard of its own and isn't even on the same board as the Cap and the Regulator we speak about, was it just a mistake mate, yea ?? Just slightly confused here with that, that's all, let me know asap please ?

Cheers.

[Saltire]

ohh man, cant believe it, got the box back today from the old guy that "thought" he "might" be able to do it, he had one look at it and said no way, far too Intricate a job !

So, I have went ahead on my own, with my trusty soldering iron, very very tricky stuff indeed, the board is out, I have the old capacitor out now, poked a couple of pin holes right through the holes for both legs and now I am just about to try and solder in the new capacitor, shaking like a leaf man, , took a bit of doing just to get the old one out man, just hope I didn't apply too much heat to the board, now the trick is to get the new Cap in now with some solder too etc, hmmm, not done anything like this for mega years man, .

As for the regulator, there is no chance what so ever that anyone could replace one of those because it looks as though that has been fitted by a robot on the factory machine floor, there is not even any trace at all of any connections or nothing for it on the underside of the motherboard, so how the hell someone could replace one of those I have not a clue because to me it is impossible really, hmmm.

Anyways, I just have to hope and pray now that the new capacitor does the job, because if it doesn't then I think the box will be for the bin as it looks like mission impossible as far as the regulator if concerned.

I am just taking a breather just now to try and calm my nerves man, few beeers etc and then attempt to get the Cap in, fun and games eh ? NOT !

[cactikid]

if you cant do it i said earlier try a tv repair shop

[Saltire]

ohh well, after all that sweating and doing my best job with the capacitor and fitting the new one which I "think" is in proper, its certainly the correct way round etc and I am pretty sure its solder in fine too although slightly on the rough side but to me it still looks acceptable , for all that effort I am still getting the red light only on the digital display, boooohoooo .

I am defo not even up to dreaming about the task of fitting the regulator and wouldn't know how to either, and as for putting it into a TV repair shop etc, I know for a fact they will either fit it and it still may not work (it might though), but either way they will still want some sort of money and generally these guys aint that cheap either, infact I think there was someone on this same thread put his box into a repair shop and the charged him either 90euros or 90pounds (same idea), ferkc that man, not when you can buy a clone brand new for not a lot more money than that, know what I mean ?

Plus, I have already been out about errrm ?14.50 or summit on parts, then the amount of time this has taken until now, and also the fact that I have been weeks now without the use of any box, nightmare man .

So I have decided, this box is a Genuine Vu + Duo purchased from a VERY reputable dealer/shop no doubt most of you will know (details can be given in pm if required, it very seldom even got used, simple facts are that now and again the mrs would watch a movie and now and again I might watch a footy game, apart from that the box never even got used, its so disappointing and sad man

I am going to put it up for sale, but I shall give people on here the first chance of refusal on it, I paid the full whack for this box just after they first came out and as you all know, the prices haven't even budged that much since then.

I also have a couple of brand new Cap's spare that I bought too plus the Regulator too, and I am sure I even still have the original box etc and will be able to provide the purchase details too if required.

If I put it on ebay I shall advertise it as "Perfect cosmetic condition, I shall describe the fault and say that is obviously for spares or repair, It may actually work if the new parts are fitted proper, I might not have fitted the Cap in good enough, I don't know, I am not an expert in that field, but It may well work just like that as I say, there again though, it might be something else, I don't know".

I may even ask someone would they like to sell me a fully perfectly working VU Clone box all set up with latest Image etc and just ready for the Line to be put in, and use this box here as part exchange, I don't know.

I would like to give the guys in here the first chance of refusal though, so its up to you'z !

p.s
The hard drive powers up etc, so I don't know if that means anything, but I wouldn't be selling it with the hard drive in it anyway as I had to add that myself.

You'z can let me know asap before I rattle it up on Fleebay, cheers and thanks again for everyones help even though I never got there in the end .

[cactikid]

yes i paid 90 euro but to me was the cheaper option than buying a box,sorry it not worked out for you.

[Saltire]

Under the Circumstances of everything I have said, how much do you think one of these boxes are worth if I was to stick it on ebay for a quick sale ?
Remember and read all the circumstances and details etc before you say so that you could maybe tell me a good idea of a price as I don't have a clue.
All I know is that the price of this Genuine box hasn't moved a heck of a lot from a reputable dealer in the UK that only sells Genuine products just like
where I got this box from, so I know how much a working one is worth, that's about it.

P.s, I also have a brand new Tablet for sale too which is a cracker, it got used for about 1 week with the mrs and she didn't like the touchscreen experience,
so the following week or so I bought her a Laptop instead, since then the tablet has lay in the drawer, I should have sold it straight away man, but as it was
out of sight it was out of mind etc, its still a current model that is for sale from same place I bought it from @ approx $200 which is about 120quid-ish, have
the case and all that crap too with it, so I guess now is a good time to punt that too, I have too many things laying around that I could be making money on
man, I am open to offers, and as for the VU+DUO box, if you read the posts above, I would also be instersted in a part exchange deal on that if someone is
Interested, as I say, open to offers man.

Cheers