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RIMKACHIP
27th November, 2018, 11:15 PM
Peugeot 607 2006 abrites won't connect with BSI to read pin and key learning too .
Lonsdor read pin and program key 2 min . :)
Abrites original or FVDI ?
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alex1881
27th November, 2018, 11:44 PM
Renault Fluence 2015 keyless go works excelent,in fact,zed full asks for pin and Lonsdor doesn't.The key works ok in central module and keyless go,5 min job.
mobilek
28th November, 2018, 01:26 PM
Zafira B, read pin and add key, - Success (note, this failed under Zafira B in menu, but i chose type 3 from by system for both pin read and program and works fine)
I tried to make Zafira B by choosing the model and by all systems. He showed his bad PIN each time. (Opel Zafira B 2009 1.9 cdti, color display on the radio)
sdnatlst
28th November, 2018, 06:43 PM
very strange, maybe if the Opel/Vauxhall has the CD70 or DVD90 colour screen system installed, it cannot pull pin
maybe it is getting pin from this unit which is why yours fails, not sure..... all my astra H and zafira B so far had basic NON colour display, maybe CD30 unit or something
mobilek
28th November, 2018, 10:48 PM
FVDI reads the correct PIN from the radio ...
dashtool2016
29th November, 2018, 02:21 PM
I was thinking about acquiring this tool but seeing the comments is not highly recommended ??? which can currently cover the largest coverage for European vehicles by obd?
mobilek
29th November, 2018, 02:35 PM
Corsa E (2016) read PIN (BCM) = OK
paulsta
29th November, 2018, 03:39 PM
VW Amarok 2016 add key ok and backup eeprom
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p1et
29th November, 2018, 04:54 PM
VW Amarok 2016 add key ok and backup eeprom
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Nice. Under which option it worked? Standard 24C64 or 24C64 2013+ or which one?
paulsta
29th November, 2018, 09:06 PM
The new paid for option, 24c64 2013+
Nice. Under which option it worked? Standard 24C64 or 24C64 2013+ or which one?
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Polkey
30th November, 2018, 11:30 PM
Hello,
Did someone programmed Smart453/Renault Twingo 3 with Lonsdor? I saw there was AN option to code smart453 in paid function?
RIMKACHIP
30th November, 2018, 11:53 PM
Hello,
Did someone programmed Smart453/Renault Twingo 3 with Lonsdor? I saw there was AN option to code smart453 in paid function?
Option is only on smart 453 and Renault trafic 4A. No twingo 3 in menu but same key at smart453. Opération is long ( 1 hour) for read pin. But not tested. I will test it and post result.
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skyliner35
1st December, 2018, 02:34 PM
Hello hyundai sonata 2011(usa) smart key (no programmfailed),toyota prius 2016 smart key ,no programming,no read backup eprom,ford fusion 2016 smart key (yes),hyndai sonata 2014 (usa) program failed,chevrolet cruze smart key programmed.
Polkey
1st December, 2018, 05:04 PM
Option is only on smart 453 and Renault trafic 4A. No twingo 3 in menu but same key at smart453. Opération is long ( 1 hour) for read pin. But not tested. I will test it and post result.
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Monday i Will have a customer for Twingo 3
I Will test it too. I Will Try with smart 453.
kaToo
1st December, 2018, 05:58 PM
FIAT 500 2008 Read Pin code and preapre remtote key than program .
ALL FINE
Polkey
3rd December, 2018, 01:28 PM
Option is only on smart 453 and Renault trafic 4A. No twingo 3 in menu but same key at smart453. Opération is long ( 1 hour) for read pin. But not tested. I will test it and post result.
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Hi everyone,
Today i test Lonsdor on Twingo 3 2015 year,
PIN read - OK (but i choose Vivaro4A system, by smart 453 PIN read fail, going to 75% and error "timeout")
key coding - OK (spare key without remote)
JOB DONE :)
MVP dont do this and SMART PRO dont do this too
paul_12345
3rd December, 2018, 02:23 PM
Hi everyone,
Today i test Lonsdor on Twingo 3 2015 year,
PIN read - OK (but i choose Vivaro4A system, by smart 453 PIN read fail, going to 75% and error "timeout")
key coding - OK (spare key without remote)
JOB DONE :)
MVP dont do this and SMART PRO dont do this too
how long did it take?
Polkey
3rd December, 2018, 03:07 PM
how long did it take?
Read PIN/FLASH IMMO DATA under 25 minutes. Key coding 1 min.
kaToo
3rd December, 2018, 05:39 PM
I have start loving this toy :) when i bought it was working 20% ok 80% not Now it is 95 - 5 :)
Today megane 3 year 2009 keyless key made job in 2minutes :)
shotaaa
3rd December, 2018, 08:03 PM
Porche Panamera 2010 km adjust obd job done
BeatsByMe
3rd December, 2018, 09:58 PM
I have red almost all comments and I was wondering between Autek,Autel,OBD star and other devices,but reading the last comments I think buying Lonsdor is not a bad investment?What will you recommend me to buy?And how much should I pay for Lonsdor + the payable option?
Thanks.
super jumbe
3rd December, 2018, 10:48 PM
I have red almost all comments and I was wondering between Autek,Autel,OBD star and other devices,but reading the last comments I think buying Lonsdor is not a bad investment?What will you recommend me to buy?And how much should I pay for Lonsdor + the payable option?
Thanks.
Join the club want be long when pay tokens to start in next month depends what you are paying for is the big (Q) and no updates to solve...
BeatsByMe
4th December, 2018, 11:36 AM
Join the club want be long when pay tokens to start in next month depends what you are paying for is the big (Q) and no updates to solve...
Sorry,I didn't quite get that?
BeatsByMe
4th December, 2018, 11:37 AM
I was thinking about acquiring this tool but seeing the comments is not highly recommended ??? which can currently cover the largest coverage for European vehicles by obd?
I have the same question...
hipolitogt
4th December, 2018, 07:55 PM
Mitsubishi space wagon 2003, precoded id61 and programmed key ok.
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aassfour
5th December, 2018, 09:55 AM
it seems the reading pincode on Grand Cherokee 2014 - has stopped after the update since the screen is Stuck on System Configuration Please wait .... for the last 1 hour
aassfour
5th December, 2018, 03:26 PM
now I did a force update and it seems that the whole Grand Cherokee 2014 - has JUST GONE , the learn key disappeared and the pin code with that little timer vanished as well , this device is eating my Cars
577415
drugowaz
5th December, 2018, 05:11 PM
You were on trial?
super jumbe
5th December, 2018, 11:30 PM
You were on trial?
Good (Q) I think we will have to start to pay or elese all pay folders will wanish.....
aassfour
6th December, 2018, 08:23 AM
You were on trial?
this happened 10 minutes after i pressed that LUCKY ICON Trial
drugowaz
6th December, 2018, 11:14 AM
Contact support with this info.
RIMKACHIP
6th December, 2018, 07:37 PM
Hi everyone,
Today i test Lonsdor on Twingo 3 2015 year,
PIN read - OK (but i choose Vivaro4A system, by smart 453 PIN read fail, going to 75% and error "timeout")
key coding - OK (spare key without remote)
JOB DONE :)
MVP dont do this and SMART PRO dont do this too
Spare key without remote ? Pcf7938 ? I want to do a key without remote for my customer. Is it possible ? Thanks
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aassfour
7th December, 2018, 09:04 AM
Contact support with this info.
problem solved after contacting support
paulsta
7th December, 2018, 03:31 PM
2009 ford fiesta AKl
All ok
newone
7th December, 2018, 04:40 PM
problem solved after contacting support
how ......?
Polkey
7th December, 2018, 06:56 PM
Spare key without remote ? Pcf7938 ? I want to do a key without remote for my customer. Is it possible ? Thanks
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Yes you can. I do sparre key without remote, pcf 7939 Renault/Dacia
gttuning
8th December, 2018, 08:09 AM
Guys whos the official dealer for this tool..
I think i need to buy one.
Thanks.
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PocketHero
8th December, 2018, 08:51 AM
Guys whos the official dealer for this tool..
I've put the addy into the other thread
Polkey
8th December, 2018, 03:17 PM
Today Abarth Grande Punto with remote Delphi pcf7946, mąkę dealer key, read pin and key coding done in 5 minutes
mobilek
8th December, 2018, 04:24 PM
Opel Combo D (fiat doblo) 2012
Read PIN = OK
Prepare Key = OK
Add Key = OK
Time - 3min
jjscalak
8th December, 2018, 08:58 PM
How to program new key in Nissan Qashquai 2007 with Lonsdor ?
i have key like this.
https://goo.gl/images/hBpi1E
drugowaz
8th December, 2018, 09:02 PM
Dont do it.
rojhat
8th December, 2018, 09:50 PM
lonsdor shit tool
simple launch x431 with immo fonction do it tested by me
How to program new key in Nissan Qashquai 2007 with Lonsdor ?
i have key like this.
https://goo.gl/images/hBpi1E
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paulsta
8th December, 2018, 10:10 PM
[QUOTE=rojhat;3442799]lonsdor shit tool
simple launch x431 with immo fonction do it tested by me
Shit because it wont do that model?
Its turning out to be ok and keeps getting better
hipolitogt
8th December, 2018, 10:41 PM
lonsdor shit tool
simple launch x431 with immo fonction do it tested by me
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hananmori12
9th December, 2018, 02:05 AM
Someone try all keys lost to Fiat 500 after the update?
paulsta
9th December, 2018, 08:25 AM
What year? Fiat 500 should be ok for AKL
Someone try all keys lost to Fiat 500 after the update?
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BeatsByMe
9th December, 2018, 11:00 PM
I see in many videos that when you program a proximity key,it automatically programs the remote.Should my remote be an original one?
cyril
10th December, 2018, 06:44 AM
hello in most of the cases it should be original to work but some of clone work also
hananmori12
10th December, 2018, 09:46 AM
What year? Fiat 500 should be ok for AKL
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Any year with remote flip key, precode transponder and remote?
lets say 2015
p1et
10th December, 2018, 10:04 AM
Any year with remote flip key, precode transponder and remote?
lets say 2015
Cannot guarantee if Lonsdor will work on this one. Sometimes fail when adding a key with existing one. Most of the times work good but not everytime with Fiat
hananmori12
10th December, 2018, 10:07 AM
Cannot guarantee if Lonsdor will work on this one. Sometimes fail when adding a key with existing one. Most of the times work good but not everytime with Fiat
I search some other tool, I hear they going to charge 600 annual fee, to much for chinese machine
paulsta
10th December, 2018, 07:08 PM
Hyundai TUCSON 2015
ID 60 6F
Read key count = OK
Programmed key = OK
Programmed remote = OK
Had to select Santa fe(DM) to do the job
mobilek
10th December, 2018, 07:15 PM
Citroen C5 2005 BSI Johnson Controls AKL
Read PIN (all system tested) = FAIL
Program key = OK
Ecuprog31
10th December, 2018, 11:23 PM
Citroën c3 Picasso all key lost Johnson Control evo ok
Peugeot 508 2015 all key lost ok
Opel corsa D add key ok
Alfa MITO add transponder key ok
smart fortwo 450 all key lost fail no communication
kazikk
11th December, 2018, 11:54 AM
Toyota RAV4 smart key - all key lost - working
SKE-LT-DST40 - black emulator
https://youtu.be/UdKONqSu-2M
Polkey
11th December, 2018, 02:18 PM
Hi guys,
A question for you, FORD ESPACE 2014 USA proximity key 315 mhz with id chip 6E-80, can I program it with lonsdor? I know I can do it with MVP but I want to try with lonsdor (in menu I dont have escape years 2013 and upper), it's the same prox like ford focus and c- max 2014 and up (both are in menu in lonsdor). Somebody try it? remote 4 button + panic M3N5WY8609
qeso705
11th December, 2018, 02:37 PM
Hi guys,
A question for you, FORD ESPACE 2014 USA proximity key 315 mhz with id chip 6E-80, can I program it with lonsdor? I know I can do it with MVP but I want to try with lonsdor (in menu I dont have escape years 2013 and upper), it's the same prox like ford focus and c- max 2014 and up (both are in menu in lonsdor). Somebody try it? remote 4 button + panic M3N5WY8609
Yes, you can try. In worsest scenario you need only take battery for a moment. It should work. 2014 isnt same as cmax and focus 2015+ as they use hitag3 proximity keys.
Ecuprog31
11th December, 2018, 03:38 PM
Bmw e60 cas2 fail no communication
paulsta
11th December, 2018, 03:43 PM
Bmw e60 cas2 fail no communication
what procedure did you use? ign on/off ect
Ecuprog31
11th December, 2018, 05:00 PM
When I click on every thing in menu communication fail
shotaaa
11th December, 2018, 05:02 PM
Did somebody tried the new function of Landrover 2015- FK72 or HPLA ?
RIMKACHIP
12th December, 2018, 10:36 AM
Mqb key Golf mk7 2014 not supported
RIMKACHIP
12th December, 2018, 10:40 AM
New mqb key on golf mk7 2014 not supported
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simaservis1108
12th December, 2018, 11:10 AM
Maybe it was Johnson Controls cluster...
shotaaa
12th December, 2018, 03:45 PM
Did somebody tried the new function of Landrover 2015- FK72 or HPLA ?
Nobody tried this function ?
RIMKACHIP
12th December, 2018, 05:32 PM
Maybe it was Johnson Controls cluster...
It is possible because in eBay with 5g0920861a lot of vdo. And some models no vdo.
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BeatsByMe
12th December, 2018, 10:27 PM
Is the X100 PAD 2 as good as londor?
hipolitogt
12th December, 2018, 10:46 PM
Is the X100 PAD 2 as good as londor?Ask it in xpad thread... If it exists... Oh wait, another nonsense question, yess better buy xpad and not lonsdor, all of the owners that writes in this thread are going to sell their machines... And lonsdor goes on bankruptcy.
The End. No more lonsdor.
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RIMKACHIP
12th December, 2018, 10:50 PM
Nissan interstar 2006 add key not working
Security access fail with Renault master and Renault Clio model.
Programming ok with Renault ecu tools.
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BeatsByMe
12th December, 2018, 11:01 PM
Ask it in xpad thread... If it exists... Oh wait, another nonsense question, yess better buy xpad and not lonsdor, all of the owners that writes in this thread are going to sell their machines... And lonsdor goes on bankruptcy.
The End. No more lonsdor.
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Wow,that escalated quickly
BeatsByMe
12th December, 2018, 11:02 PM
I already ordered Lonsdor,just asked if someone has an pinion about the Xpad
TERMINATOR1000
12th December, 2018, 11:09 PM
Ask it in xpad thread... If it exists... Oh wait, another nonsense question, yess better buy xpad and not lonsdor, all of the owners that writes in this thread are going to sell their machines... And lonsdor goes on bankruptcy.
The End. No more lonsdor.
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X100 PAD 2 thread exist , this too is no adapted to EUROPE car !
Lonsdor is better if you live in EU and you program BMW RENAULT VW FIAT ....
Just ordering tool for your usage , X100 PAD 2 better for ASIAN , USA cars
BeatsByMe
12th December, 2018, 11:14 PM
X100 PAD 2 thread exist , this too is no adapted to EUROPE car !
Lonsdor is better if you live in EU and you program BMW RENAULT VW FIAT ....
Just ordering tool for your usage , X100 PAD 2 better for ASIAN , USA cars
Now that is how you answer people!Thanks a lot,the other guy who answered me should learn from you.
AjDaBeast
13th December, 2018, 01:00 AM
I was forced to update today and can no longer find option to program fobik keys for chyrsler and dodge. anyone else?
hipolitogt
13th December, 2018, 08:39 AM
Now that is how you answer people!Thanks a lot,the other guy who answered me should learn from you.Sorry, but I told it in a lot of threads: there's no perfect tool and if you pay $1200 for a tool that do BMW CAS+fem + VW + Renault + Peugeot + a lot of brands it's normal that all that they say doesn't work. Mine with a couple of BMW keys returned me the investment. People will tell that advanced diagnostics tools are good. But for me are SHIT, because I paid near 7000€ for a full UTP set and never, never, returned the investment. I hide it on a closet because everytime I see it I want to throw it to the Spanish distributor. If lonsdor cost 7000€ will blame about it if not work everything, but for 1200$?
The post not was for you is for everybody that thinks will become rich with a $1200 tool... And will be better that a conjunction of tools like avdi, vvdi2, tango, and so... And then the white rabbit will appear and will show you Wonderland...
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rola1971
13th December, 2018, 11:39 AM
test today
2008 peugeot 207cc read pin ok.programming key ok.
2014 peugeot expert read pin ok.programming key ok.
2009 audi a6 read immo data ok.programming key ok.
good luck
BeatsByMe
13th December, 2018, 11:42 AM
Sorry, but I told it in a lot of threads: there's no perfect tool and if you pay $1200 for a tool that do BMW CAS+fem + VW + Renault + Peugeot + a lot of brands it's normal that all that they say doesn't work. Mine with a couple of BMW keys returned me the investment. People will tell that advanced diagnostics tools are good. But for me are SHIT, because I paid near 7000€ for a full UTP set and never, never, returned the investment. I hide it on a closet because everytime I see it I want to throw it to the Spanish distributor. If lonsdor cost 7000€ will blame about it if not work everything, but for 1200$?
The post not was for you is for everybody that thinks will become rich with a $1200 tool... And will be better that a conjunction of tools like avdi, vvdi2, tango, and so... And then the white rabbit will appear and will show you Wonderland...
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Yes,I am aware that it won't do all of the vehicles.I just wanted to know if it is good as lonsdor so I can buy it as well for me to have a second option.Anyway,now I understood that it doesn't do the european vehicles,so I won't buy it.
paulsta
13th December, 2018, 11:47 AM
Yes,I am aware that it won't do all of the vehicles.I just wanted to know if it is good as lonsdor so I can buy it as well for me to have a second option.Anyway,now I understood that it doesn't do the european vehicles,so I won't buy it.Have you checked the tested list that has been posted in this thread?
I use this on European cars,
I don't just use this tool but for the price it was a good addition to my collection of tools
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BeatsByMe
13th December, 2018, 11:54 AM
Have you checked the tested list that has been posted in this thread?
I use this on European cars,
I don't just use this tool but for the price it was a good addition to my collection of tools
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Yes I have and that is why I ordered Lonsdor.I wanted to order SKP 1000 too,but I did not find as much info as I wanted and I don't have the money now for it.
hipolitogt
13th December, 2018, 12:30 PM
Yes,I am aware that it won't do all of the vehicles.I just wanted to know if it is good as lonsdor so I can buy it as well for me to have a second option.Anyway,now I understood that it doesn't do the european vehicles,so I won't buy it.Yes it does European cars, and very well
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TERMINATOR1000
13th December, 2018, 12:44 PM
Yes it does European cars, and very well
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he talking about x100pad2 .... like "a second option"
you understand nothing ?
EPILOGUE : LONSDOR-K518 IS BETTER THAN X100 PAD2
the end of compare
hipolitogt
13th December, 2018, 02:47 PM
he talking about x100pad2 .... like "a second option"
you understand nothing ?
EPILOGUE : LONSDOR-K518 IS BETTER THAN X100 PAD2
the end of compare
Sorry I'm lost
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super jumbe
14th December, 2018, 09:52 PM
Any more upgrades lately !!!
HeXeN
15th December, 2018, 05:49 PM
Alfa 159, brera, spider ? anybody tested ?
TERMINATOR1000
17th December, 2018, 11:28 AM
HELLO
600€ for activation of "new update" after free trials what this mean ?
For new buyer need 600€ extra pay after bought 1300€ & every years ????
it's an holdup ?
newone
17th December, 2018, 11:51 AM
at the start of lonsdor updates suppossed to be free,now they decided that the new updates (red color in coverage list) will be payable,free 3 months at start and then 600 per year(if that remains the same)if you decide not to pay the 600 per year then hardware can continue with the black on coverage list
TERMINATOR1000
17th December, 2018, 02:04 PM
at the start of lonsdor updates suppossed to be free,now they decided that the new updates (red color in coverage list) will be payable,free 3 months at start and then 600 per year(if that remains the same)if you decide not to pay the 600 per year then hardware can continue with the black on coverage list
after only 3 month , this is an excessive price tool finely 2000$ + 600 / year
PocketHero
17th December, 2018, 02:47 PM
Ford Mustang GT 2016 smart key, akl.
Add a key: fail
All keys lost: fail
After the 10 mins security pause IT reads the VIN and key count, then the alarm sounds again, doesn't matter what I do...
AndyCZ
17th December, 2018, 04:34 PM
Dacia Duster 2015 anyone got lucky add spare key?
I just tried under Dokker, it's connecting VIN OK but I do not have AES key on stock try to add.
Under Dokker it's added ori key OK and showed 5 keys total what is nonsence.
Locker
17th December, 2018, 06:30 PM
Does this tool pull the pincode from jeep grand cherokee 2014-2015?
AndyCZ
17th December, 2018, 08:14 PM
Does this tool pull the pincode from jeep grand cherokee 2014-2015?
yes, check youtube video
BeatsByMe
18th December, 2018, 07:51 PM
at the start of lonsdor updates suppossed to be free,now they decided that the new updates (red color in coverage list) will be payable,free 3 months at start and then 600 per year(if that remains the same)if you decide not to pay the 600 per year then hardware can continue with the black on coverage list
We have to pay 600 dollars per year??? That is a lot.Is there any other device that is as good as lonsdor?Also can someone post pictures of the "red color coverage list" ?
Thanks in advance
TERMINATOR1000
18th December, 2018, 09:08 PM
yes , new update for EU cars Fiat Renault VW have an cost !!! 1300€ +600€ = 1900€
Just new technic of Chinese , fvdi locked , online software to use , extra module XTOOL .....
Every years you pay , chinese use this forum to free commercial advise , corrupted member receive free tool and diffuse fake news ....
be careful an 3000€ EU tool like Zedfull , TrueCode or other may be most interesting than 2 , 3 , 4 Chinese tool ( 1900€ + 1300€ + 300€ + 600€ +++++ )
don't make confidence to China
BeatsByMe
18th December, 2018, 09:13 PM
yes , new update for EU cars Fiat Renault VW have an cost !!! 1300€ +600€ = 1900€
Just new technic of Chinese , fvdi locked , online software to use , extra module XTOOL .....
Every years you pay , chinese use this forum to free commercial advise , corrupted member receive free tool and diffuse fake news ....
be careful an 3000€ EU tool like Zedfull , TrueCode or other may be most interesting than 2 , 3 , 4 Chinese tool ( 1900€ + 1300€ + 300€ + 600€ +++++ )
don't make confidence to China
Thanks a lot for the info!I honestly didn't know that there were people who are given free tools for telling us lies...
I was gonna order Lonsdor next week...now I don't know what to buy...
TERMINATOR1000
18th December, 2018, 09:45 PM
Thanks a lot for the info!I honestly didn't know that there were people who are given free tools for telling us lies...
I was gonna order Lonsdor next week...now I don't know what to buy...
6 month ago , this forum had abuse lot of member about "x100 pad2" = 800€ coverage with "x100 pad2 cargo Brazil" = 2000€ , wonderful coverage in this thread :
https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/647064-x100-pad-2-what-is-working?highlight=x100+pad
now LONSDOR-K518 = $1900 + $600 / years , all best function is in online 600€ activation , nothing in the programmer !
BeatsByMe
18th December, 2018, 09:56 PM
6 month ago , this forum had abuse lot of member about "x100 pad2" = 800€ coverage with "x100 pad2 cargo Brazil" = 2000€ , wonderful coverage in this thread :
https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/647064-x100-pad-2-what-is-working?highlight=x100+pad
now LONSDOR-K518 = $1900 + $600 / years , all best function is in online 600€ activation , nothing in the programmer !
Probably I won't order it...
Can you tell me some really good programmer for european cars smart keys,the Opel keys after 2011,BMW and so on?
RIMKACHIP
18th December, 2018, 10:00 PM
yes , new update for EU cars Fiat Renault VW have an cost !!! 1300€ +600€ = 1900€
Just new technic of Chinese , fvdi locked , online software to use , extra module XTOOL .....
Every years you pay , chinese use this forum to free commercial advise , corrupted member receive free tool and diffuse fake news ....
be careful an 3000€ EU tool like Zedfull , TrueCode or other may be most interesting than 2 , 3 , 4 Chinese tool ( 1900€ + 1300€ + 300€ + 600€ +++++ )
don't make confidence to China
Hi my friend where did you see price ?
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BeatsByMe
18th December, 2018, 10:05 PM
About Lonsdor? At Aliexpress or the lonsdor site
K1nd3r
18th December, 2018, 10:15 PM
so full version for 1500 EUR with toyota emulators, Volvo, Toyota software included?
BeatsByMe
18th December, 2018, 10:21 PM
so full version for 1500 EUR with toyota emulators, Volvo, Toyota software included?
Yea and I would have ordered it next week,but with this 600 dollars a year,I don't know anymore...
TERMINATOR1000
19th December, 2018, 01:01 AM
Hi my friend where did you see price ?
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hello
here is notice & price 90 day after activate option ( if you don't use don't activate :crushed: )
http://blog.obdii365.com/2018/10/22/use-lonsdor-k518-new-trial-update-and-push-function/
http://www.obdii365.com/wholesale/lonsdor-k518ise-yearly-update-subscription.html
TERMINATOR1000
19th December, 2018, 01:08 AM
$600 after 90 day !!!!
1300 + 600 = 1900 $ ..... next year add $600 ?
If i understand after 15 months $2500 ?
TERMINATOR1000
19th December, 2018, 01:09 AM
so full version for 1500 EUR with toyota emulators, Volvo, Toyota software included?
YES for 90 days !!!!!
crazylou2017
19th December, 2018, 03:43 AM
New mqb key on golf mk7 2014 not supported
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So it doesn't support yet. I reply your message and find you has exceeded your stored private messages quota.
As I said before, if the menu can backup then it can succeed, otherwise it will fail to do.
crazylou2017
19th December, 2018, 03:52 AM
$600 after 90 day !!!!
1300 + 600 = 1900 $ ..... next year add $600 ?
If i understand after 15 months $2500 ?
I called the Lonsdor yesterday, they replied 600USD is for all modlels and functions (with time clock after clicking on "Trial APP").
Considering some users only need a part or a specific function, they are discussing how to perform next so that most users will be happy.
super jumbe
19th December, 2018, 07:20 AM
$600 for a year that’s lots of money, the subscription is more then AVDI original only £400 they will have to reduce the amount for us to carry on using never thought we will come to this hurdle.http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/hmmmm.gif
qeso705
19th December, 2018, 09:41 AM
$600 for a year that’s lots of money, the subscription is more then AVDI original only £400 they will have to reduce the amount for us to carry on using never thought we will come to this hurdle.http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/hmmmm.gif
w
It is for new function subscription not for fake support and updates which repair bugs from function which you already pay for it like on AVDI.
BeatsByMe
19th December, 2018, 10:29 AM
w
It is for new function subscription not for fake support and updates which repair bugs from function which you already pay for it like on AVDI.
Still it is too much...I don't know if it will be better t buy OBD star?I don't know,I am so cofused on what to buy already...The AVDI and Zedfull are very expensive.I wanted to buy lonsdor but this 600 dolars a year is way too much
rapidlocksmiths
19th December, 2018, 11:18 AM
if functions work then its a bargain to stay up to date and have the coverage it promises , if not working as promised its not . obdstar just release a new machine when sales slow down every few years , so much same cost
exe123
19th December, 2018, 12:17 PM
$600 per year is $50 per month. If you are not able to spend $50 per month for updates, you are working for peanuts or doing the wrong job.
BeatsByMe
19th December, 2018, 01:36 PM
$600 per year is $50 per month. If you are not able to spend $50 per month for updates, you are working for peanuts or doing the wrong job.
Now it is 600 dollars,next year they will release a new tool for 2000 dollars and will stop supporting the old one...And yea,some people work for themselves.If we are gonna spend 50 dollars fr every tool we have it will be very hard.If there was someone giving me money to buy the items it would have been easy.Also it depends from which country people are located.The market everywhere is different,as the salary's and so on.
TERMINATOR1000
19th December, 2018, 02:16 PM
$600 per year is $50 per month. If you are not able to spend $50 per month for updates, you are working for peanuts or doing the wrong job.
i just inform members of new Chinese "TRIAL" rules ! if they'r alright to buy a tool $1900 all is OK
In France we won't pay for Chinese tax
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK7jn7feVYE
newone
19th December, 2018, 02:28 PM
$600 per year is $50 per month. If you are not able to spend $50 per month for updates, you are working for peanuts or doing the wrong job.
i agree that 600 per year for updates is ok,but the thing is how can we trust that they will not come up with a new toy in 1-2 years and then old one will be for the bin?i think that will be a bet someone to walk their way.
BeatsByMe
19th December, 2018, 02:35 PM
i agree that 600 per year for updates is ok,but the thing is how can we trust that they will not come up with a new toy in 1-2 years and then old one will be for the bin?i think that will be a bet someone to walk their way.
Exactly!!! That is why I don't trust them
drugowaz
19th December, 2018, 03:20 PM
600 for not working updates is good? Great story
sdnatlst
19th December, 2018, 04:52 PM
Quick question, anybody done Range Rover Sport, 2005 model ?
I have done a few Discovery 3 with Londsor, they use the very same key (black 3 button flip key), but Range Rover Sport isnt in Londsor menu anywhere?
p1et
19th December, 2018, 08:59 PM
Peugeot 207 (2010 year) fail to read pin code with working key. MVP Pro no problem
K1nd3r
19th December, 2018, 09:20 PM
lonsdor policy can be easy changed if there is a lot users that have paid by paypal
hipolitogt
19th December, 2018, 09:30 PM
Peugeot 207 (2010 year) fail to read pin code with working key. MVP Pro no problemMade today one... Did you used type 1 to read pin?
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p1et
19th December, 2018, 10:22 PM
Made today one... Did you used type 1 to read pin?
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Yes I also made this model before and I think not even once but more. But this time no luck.
Type 1 as always when I have working key as my first choice. After like 12 sequences ON/OFF message 'cannot read'. I felt it will not succeed after like 8 sequences. Then Type 2 and 3 no comms at all.
Programming key was okay.
hipolitogt
19th December, 2018, 10:43 PM
Yes I also made this model before and I think not even once but more. But this time no luck.
Type 1 as always when I have working key as my first choice. After like 12 sequences ON/OFF message 'cannot read'. I felt it will not succeed after like 8 sequences. Then Type 2 and 3 no comms at all.
Programming key was okay.Strange, maybe some kind of issue on car?
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p1et
19th December, 2018, 10:49 PM
Cannot be issue on car as other device (MVP) read PIN okay same method with sequence ign. ON/OFF. I was also surprised because I did quite a lot of Peugeot/Citroen with Lonsdor and when I had working key, it was working every time.
grzyb26
19th December, 2018, 11:38 PM
Golf7 2015 keyless add key ok
Zafira B 2009 read pin error
RIMKACHIP
20th December, 2018, 08:34 AM
Cannot be issue on car as other device (MVP) read PIN okay same method with sequence ign. ON/OFF. I was also surprised because I did quite a lot of Peugeot/Citroen with Lonsdor and when I had working key, it was working every time.
On Peugeot 207 no need method with sequence on/off. Bsi valeo just read pin ! Fvdi works fine in 15 s.
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M90
20th December, 2018, 10:44 AM
Do you know where can I find tools for Volvo (2016+)? For example Lonsdor, or any else..
Key programmers, Diagnostic tools.
RIMKACHIP
20th December, 2018, 01:20 PM
Yes I also made this model before and I think not even once but more. But this time no luck.
Type 1 as always when I have working key as my first choice. After like 12 sequences ON/OFF message 'cannot read'. I felt it will not succeed after like 8 sequences. Then Type 2 and 3 no comms at all.
Programming key was okay.
Same problem on Citroen c2 2007 bsi valeo same Peugeot 207.
Type 1 not working
Type 2 reading reference bsi and vin but comm failed
Type 3 comm failed.
With FVDI Peugeot 6.3 all ok
Finally Lonsdor not good for many cars.
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sdnatlst
20th December, 2018, 02:50 PM
Citroen C3 - Automatic - 2007 - READ PIN and add key OK (working key)
Citroen C3 - Manual - 2007 - AKL - NO COMMS for pin reading, on any type - ADD KEY OK from pin on CAR PASS
Discovery 3 - 2006 - Add spare key OK
Range Rover Sport - 2005 - Add spare key OK (under discovery 3 menu)
Jaguar X TYPE - 2009 - Add keys OK (under all keys lost in menu) - Message PROGRAMMING FAILED at the end, although replacing all keys in igniton worked. Manual remote
p1et
21st December, 2018, 11:56 AM
Today next one Peugeot 207 and this time success of reaing PIN code :rolleyes:
RIMKACHIP
21st December, 2018, 02:40 PM
Today big update 194 item. I will retest cars.
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RIMKACHIP
21st December, 2018, 02:53 PM
Today next one Peugeot 207 and this time success of reaing PIN code :rolleyes:
With type 2 ? Or type 1 ?
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drugowaz
21st December, 2018, 03:53 PM
Its not update. They just reorganise existing softs
When update released. They release oficial notice
RIMKACHIP
21st December, 2018, 04:02 PM
Ok but with this new car is supported. I had experience on mqb golf last month.
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drugowaz
21st December, 2018, 04:35 PM
Im looking one group. So after every update many functiins or cars just vanish :D i dont know what theyr doing,but its wrong direction.
sdnatlst
21st December, 2018, 05:08 PM
Citroen C4 Picasso - 2012 - AKL - READ PIN (type 2) and ADD KEY - OK
Ford Focus 2012 - KEYLESS SMART SYSTEM - Read pin and ADD KEY - OK
p1et
21st December, 2018, 05:26 PM
With type 2 ? Or type 1 ?
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Type 1 is always my first choice when I have working key so yeah, worked under Type 1. I did not check if Type 2 work also after then.
shotaaa
21st December, 2018, 09:47 PM
Audi a3 MQB limousine year 2015 make dealer key and add key "OK"
RIMKACHIP
21st December, 2018, 11:03 PM
Audi a3 MQB limousine year 2015 make dealer key and add key "OK"
No have mqb menu on Audi ? Just Volkswagen Immo 4 ? What are you choose ?
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shotaaa
22nd December, 2018, 12:07 PM
No have mqb menu on Audi ? Just Volkswagen Immo 4 ? What are you choose ?
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VW>Immo4>MQB-35xx(mainland/vdo)581809
RIMKACHIP
22nd December, 2018, 12:36 PM
VW>Immo4>MQB-35xx(mainland/vdo)581809
Ok it’s good news same menu of golf mk7. I didn’t want to take risk on Audi A3
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shotaaa
22nd December, 2018, 12:47 PM
Ok it’s good news same menu of golf mk7. I didn’t want to take risk on Audi A3
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I tried first with vvdi2 it fails.. so i tried with lonsdor, without any peroblem !
p1et
22nd December, 2018, 01:55 PM
I tried first with vvdi2 it fails.. so i tried with lonsdor, without any peroblem !
Wooow, that's interesting. Good info.
RIMKACHIP
22nd December, 2018, 02:01 PM
When I did dealer keys I had seen Audi. I thought 8V ! It’s a great news but I don’t know if Audi have vdo and Johnson control too ?
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shotaaa
23rd December, 2018, 01:34 AM
When I did dealer keys I had seen Audi. I thought 8V ! It’s a great news but I don’t know if Audi have vdo and Johnson control too ?
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Audi dont have johson control, i never seen before
p1et
23rd December, 2018, 01:53 PM
Golf 6 2013 - add keyless remote OK
sdnatlst
23rd December, 2018, 02:08 PM
hi all, i have customer with AKL on Toyota Auris 2007, smart key
The remotes are expensive second hand at least £100, is there anyway i can check if i can add key (maybe with emulator) with lonsdor before i buy key? any test i can do on the car with lonsdor?
thanks in advance!
drugowaz
26th December, 2018, 08:35 AM
Official
600 ,1 year licence.
paulsta
26th December, 2018, 09:25 AM
Menus are divided into two parts: free menus and subscribed menus.
1.Free menus are free for lifetime.
2. Subscribed menus can be used for free for 90 days. You need to pay for them after the trial period. After the trial period, subscribed menus will not work properly if you don’t pay. And the menus will disappear after updating the device.
A. 365 days is a period and the price is USD600 per period. One year period starts from the day of the trial period finished.
B. Purchase menus with a dealer. You can use the menus normally and permanently after payment.
C. Menus which you purchase includes subscribed menus that have been released and that will have been released in one year period.
D. Subscribed menus beyond one year period requires extra payment.
I think I will use the money towards another tool now!
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K1nd3r
26th December, 2018, 09:04 PM
this is start of project end, nonsense removing paid activation
TERMINATOR1000
26th December, 2018, 09:38 PM
It's logic !
..... they just pay guy who give us this additional function , it's an contract ; guy say " we boost your Chinese tool " , see the crazy extra function since 3 months !!!!
Just an marketing strategy , tool can be dead-activate in one year to ....
If this company don't do that : lonsdor k518ise never will be the most powerful multi brand key programmer
They're changing strategy after best ever update , after first marketing politic of free update & no token , after selling explosion .
finally price is $1900 , results are incredible on EU cars , no concurrent , they're winner !
drugowaz
27th December, 2018, 08:45 AM
What are you talking about. Half functions not work ir bugs
RIMKACHIP
27th December, 2018, 09:00 AM
Online function ?
Lonsdor no have on line functions. When you program keys not required internet.
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TERMINATOR1000
27th December, 2018, 09:35 AM
Online function ?
Lonsdor no have on line functions. When you program keys not required internet.
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OK , in this case this tool will be hacked by another Chinese seller , thanks
TERMINATOR1000
27th December, 2018, 09:41 AM
What are you talking about. Half functions not work ir bugs
why positif feedback here , fiat , Renault , PSA , VW , ... ?
COMPARING to Obdstar & Xtool , K518 is must have
super jumbe
27th December, 2018, 10:04 AM
Can some one explan when I connect vvdi I get this message on screen ( Remaining Synchronization time 10 days ) any idea will it lock after 10 days....
Sorry suppose to write in vvdi section.
comizelu
27th December, 2018, 10:21 AM
Can some one explan when I connect vvdi I get this message on screen ( Remaining Synchronization time 10 days ) any idea will it lock after 10 days....
Sorry suppose to write in vvdi section.In 10 days you need to connect it to internet.
Every 31days you need to connect it to internet..
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TERMINATOR1000
27th December, 2018, 12:01 PM
Can some one explan when I connect vvdi I get this message on screen ( Remaining Synchronization time 10 days ) any idea will it lock after 10 days....
Sorry suppose to write in vvdi section.
yes , after 30 day tool is dead if not connected to server !!!! stupid process , better is 2014
RIMKACHIP
27th December, 2018, 12:09 PM
Process of avdi original [emoji23][emoji23]
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Brof
27th December, 2018, 01:49 PM
Have read all the posts on this tool, can anyone confirm is the tool good for euro ford, transit mk6, mk7, New transit connect and custom?
paulsta
27th December, 2018, 02:01 PM
Have read all the posts on this tool, can anyone confirm is the tool good for euro ford, transit mk6, mk7, New transit connect and custom?I've tested on a good few Mk7 but it will not do customs or connects
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RIMKACHIP
27th December, 2018, 02:05 PM
Have read all the posts on this tool, can anyone confirm is the tool good for euro ford, transit mk6, mk7, New transit connect and custom?
Ford transit 2015 not working no communication
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Weasel3
27th December, 2018, 04:57 PM
Menus are divided into two parts: free menus and subscribed menus.
1.Free menus are free for lifetime.
2. Subscribed menus can be used for free for 90 days. You need to pay for them after the trial period. After the trial period, subscribed menus will not work properly if you don’t pay. And the menus will disappear after updating the device.
A. 365 days is a period and the price is USD600 per period. One year period starts from the day of the trial period finished.
B. Purchase menus with a dealer. You can use the menus normally and permanently after payment.
C. Menus which you purchase includes subscribed menus that have been released and that will have been released in one year period.
D. Subscribed menus beyond one year period requires extra payment.
I think I will use the money towards another tool now!
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No offence to anybody but here is my thoughts about it. :)
I think this subscription is no problem at all. The choice is like OBDstar, or like this. ObsStar give you new model. Stop updating the old one, as they could, if the was a subscription involved. Then you need to buy a new model one more time. Until next model is released.
The factory is here to make money.
This very low prices tool, with good updates. Is to cheap, compared to what it can do.
A couple of years ago, not many CN products existed, and the prices was very high. Now its like peanuts. It's to cheap. And all cockroach's :) go in to the competition. (Me included)
Going for the same customers. Pushing prices down. And crying out loud when they burn a car :) With cheap equipment without support.
With subscription you will get support. Since they earn money each day, to pay the person sitting in the office giving the support. Some vendors is better than others of course.
As long as they can guarantee that if your tool is getting damaged somehow (driven over, fire, or stolen(factory locks old item). They will replace the hardware, and let you keep your licenses/subscriptions. I am good to go with this tool. Or other factories doing the same thing.
And also important when a new hardware machine comes along with better performance - screen etc. You can get a new hardware and keep your old subscriptions/licenses. Just like Smelecom. And other Russian developers MB. And also VVDI.
Off course you pay for the new hardware. But with a discount since you been a trusted customer over a long time.
Paying subscription every year. Given them money. You earning money at the same time. So they can keep on developing the solutions onto new models to come, and older vehicles not ready developed yet.
PocketHero
27th December, 2018, 05:04 PM
You spoke from my heart bro [emoji6]
p1et
27th December, 2018, 06:33 PM
Hyundai I10 ( ID46) 2013 year - PIN code reading fail from main menu but success after choose model - i10 - read PIN. Programming key OK.
K1nd3r
27th December, 2018, 08:53 PM
No offence to anybody but here is my thoughts about it. :)
..........
Off course you pay for the new hardware. But with a discount since you been a trusted customer over a long time.
Paying subscription every year. Given them money. You earning money at the same time. So they can keep on developing the solutions onto new models to come, and older vehicles not ready developed yet.
developing? all protocols are stolen
this 600 eur subscribtion is like one time online payable service, you paying paying paying...
they should receive money one time and release/make free that authorization for all time, and then receiving money for new updates
Weasel3
28th December, 2018, 12:01 AM
developing? all protocols are stolen
this 600 eur subscribtion is like one time online payable service, you paying paying paying...
they should receive money one time and release/make free that authorization for all time, and then receiving money for new updates
Yes I know some of the stuff they take from each other. They all compete in the same business and development.
Like Toyota. It pissed me off, what they did. Since they used the Scorpio server to calculate. They managed to solve it their own way again later, after a long time. But still not OK.
I don't think any users want to pay for each update which is released. I think they would prefer pay for one year at the time. And get as much updates they can get.
I am talking a little bit in general here. If not subscriptions is paid. The revenue generated working with the tool will stall. And probably fewer updates. And then new products comes along taking over. And they just stop selling it.
Just like SKP900. Released and hot. With updates downloaded. Selling a lot. Now it is nothing people talk about anymore.
qeso705
28th December, 2018, 01:26 AM
developing? all protocols are stolen
this 600 eur subscribtion is like one time online payable service, you paying paying paying...
they should receive money one time and release/make free that authorization for all time, and then receiving money for new updates
I don't think that all protocols are stolen. Volvo keyless, ferrari, gm/opel 2017+, kia/hyundai smk read etc. Why Abritus can take crazy prices for not working activation and Londsor can't charge 600eur yearly? Developing/taking things from other cost a lot time, energy and money. In this business everyone takes what is possible to take from other beside ioterminal, scorpio and few smaller companies. Ioterminal charge for additional options too, scorpio it depends but in last year wasn't too much new things. It is right from developer to set sell policy.
super jumbe
28th December, 2018, 08:06 AM
I have worked out this subscription is very expensive, I have got customer already to buy my machine next month, for me it’s very expensive to use because it does not cover most cars modules to cover the yearly cost, AVDI covers most cars and less yearly subscription to pay, if you worked out you are paying $64 dollar a month that’s over $760 dollar yearly this is way to expensive for me to survive, remember you have to pay rent and car expence and this and for that reason I rather do nothing. THE END...
K1nd3r
28th December, 2018, 10:20 AM
I don't think that all protocols are stolen. Volvo keyless, ferrari, gm/opel 2017+, kia/hyundai smk read etc. Why Abritus can take crazy prices for not working activation and Londsor can't charge 600eur yearly? Developing/taking things from other cost a lot time, energy and money. In this business everyone takes what is possible to take from other beside ioterminal, scorpio and few smaller companies. Ioterminal charge for additional options too, scorpio it depends but in last year wasn't too much new things. It is right from developer to set sell policy.
fem/bdc from Bmw-explorer, volvo from DS3, opel from TDB, how much ferrari you have made? abritus has stolen your authorization after some period?
just disgusting what they have made
PocketHero
28th December, 2018, 01:37 PM
Made 2 Ferraris, thanks. [emoji38]
But since this massjve update misery some funxtionz stopped tó work...
qeso705
28th December, 2018, 02:55 PM
fem/bdc from Bmw-explorer, volvo from DS3, opel from TDB, how much ferrari you have made? abritus has stolen your authorization after some period?
just disgusting what they have made
Abritus sells me function which didnt work for not small amount of money and wish to pay AMS for fixing bugs from cars which cover my license. They will 200Eur AMS yearly + price of keylearn function from them will be much more as 10k eur. How many years take to spend same amount money for Londsor. Nearly 20? After 10years this buisness will be dead because everything will be so good secured.
PocketHero
28th December, 2018, 09:05 PM
After 10years this buisness will be dead because everything will be so good secured.
Ok, I think you don't understand whats going on in the background. You say that in 10 years nobody Will be able tó steal a car. I say that's nonsense. In 10 yrs there Will be a lots of cars on the market, they are New today. Have you any kind of trouble with a decade old car? If you are better Than "stupid Bill from the neighborhood", then not. What do you think, peoples like RayRay Will stop working? Not. There's Always a hidden door, just IT takes some Time to found it.
TukoSalamanca2
28th December, 2018, 09:27 PM
Ok, I think you don't understand whats going on in the background. You say that in 10 years nobody Will be able tó steal a car. I say that's nonsense. In 10 yrs there Will be a lots of cars on the market, they are New today. Have you any kind of trouble with a decade old car? If you are better Than "stupid Bill from the neighborhood", then not. What do you think, peoples like RayRay Will stop working? Not. There's Always a hidden door, just IT takes some Time to found it.
they will be robbed with a gun to the head
PocketHero
28th December, 2018, 09:30 PM
Stop, the whole world can't turn into South Africa
qeso705
28th December, 2018, 09:57 PM
Industry learn last 30 years. Slowly main cost is electronic, not mechanic. Making cars which want last too long and not reusable parts are priority. Already is big problem with 5 years old mqb. Unique are Keys stored in area which have No read option in mcus slowly are standard.
jodge
28th December, 2018, 11:52 PM
Industry learn last 30 years. Slowly main cost is electronic, not mechanic. Making cars which want last too long and not reusable parts are priority. Already is big problem with 5 years old mqb. Unique are Keys stored in area which have No read option in mcus slowly are standard.
I think you underestimet the power of money and the fame (like hacking the Tesla onboard system for fun) :D
All hack based developing working the same way. It's common not just here thats the reason why working the same analogues here too.
If the security became too advanced they will turn to the hw doors (like renault HFM dump FEM, CAS4..etc) or simply pay for a guys in a service centre and using their access to a factory servers (ODIS, VIDA...etc).
A small story around 2001-2002 the nokia came ot with the new system called dct-4. Brand new security, no sw update available no custom sw, no unlocking nothing. High security dev team, no info, no access, Nokia SWAT team....etc. After few weeks two dude formed a team. They offer full service only when you have quantity and they working almost 8 years. Member(s) of the dev team :D
Easy :D there will be a solution. Always
qeso705
29th December, 2018, 12:00 AM
Tesla keyless hack was only possible because implementing system which was cracked in 2006 by external company was a bad joke. From 04/2018 car should have phone connection in EU which mean that even when you find way to add key outside manufacture they should be able to see that and blacklist car/key/warranty. Put this topic to your calendar and look after 10 years. Where will be locksmith profit? Beside that is very likely that keys will be not used anymore, just your phone paired with car or wallet.
Rio orio
29th December, 2018, 04:38 AM
Lonsdor isn’t worth it , it can never be compared to AVDI,AVDI is boss of tool ,I have more than made back my investment with AVDI I have lonsdor 6 months and it are wast of money, give me AVDI any day, can lonsdor Toyota be compared to AVDI Toyota, never, AVDI ford Mazda Nissan Kia Hyundai Bmw is boss , and much more cost effective.avdi is class and top off the class , for good technicians.
p1et
29th December, 2018, 10:12 AM
Of course it can't be compared to AVDI because the price of AVDI is like 10x more (at least) lol. But considering dependence between price and capabilities, Lonsdor win all the way.
And please, let's now get stick to the actual thread - what is working and what's not.
TERMINATOR1000
29th December, 2018, 01:40 PM
Of course it can't be compared to AVDI because the price of AVDI is like 10x more (at least) lol. But considering dependence between price and capabilities, Lonsdor win all the way.
And please, let's now get stick to the actual thread - what is working and what's not.
before of aftrer free trial ?
TukoSalamanca2
29th December, 2018, 02:26 PM
Lonsdor isn’t worth it , it can never be compared to AVDI,AVDI is boss of tool ,I have more than made back my investment with AVDI I have lonsdor 6 months and it are wast of money, give me AVDI any day, can lonsdor Toyota be compared to AVDI Toyota, never, AVDI ford Mazda Nissan Kia Hyundai Bmw is boss , and much more cost effective.avdi is class and top off the class , for good technicians.
Give 1 year more to Autel and AVDI go to the shit. The bulgarians believe that we shit gold
sdnatlst
29th December, 2018, 02:34 PM
Nissan Qashqai 2016 - AKL - Smart Proxy Key - OK
p1et
29th December, 2018, 03:19 PM
Nissan Qashqai 2016 - AKL - Smart Proxy Key - OK
Great job!
jodge
29th December, 2018, 08:02 PM
Tesla keyless hack was only possible because implementing system which was cracked in 2006 by external company was a bad joke. From 04/2018 car should have phone connection in EU which mean that even when you find way to add key outside manufacture they should be able to see that and blacklist car/key/warranty. Put this topic to your calendar and look after 10 years. Where will be locksmith profit? Beside that is very likely that keys will be not used anymore, just your phone paired with car or wallet.
about Tesla:
the last hacking (known) keyless entry attempt (https://www.esat.kuleuven.be/cosic/fast-furious-and-insecure-passive-keyless-entry-and-start-in-modern-supercars/) this belgian guys. In 2018 september... and yes they are using old security but thats IS the vulnerabilty. Like in many other stuffs
About the eCall:
Your eCall system is only activated if your vehicle is involved in a serious accident. The rest of the time it system remains inactive. This means that when you are simply driving your vehicle, no tracking (registering your car's position or monitoring your driving) or transmission of data takes place.
here is the link. (https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/security-and-emergencies/emergency-assistance-vehicles-ecall/index_en.htm)
It will be a way bcose the fame and / or the money. Always.
qeso705
30th December, 2018, 12:31 AM
eCall means that HW which is connected to network is obligatory installed by car manufacture. Its mean that only sw part need to be done for extending it with things which are useful for car manufacture. Already BMW, MB, GM have this functionality and i am 100% sure that it will be introduced by other car brands with same possibilities like: wifi hotspots, remote dtc read, remote car data collection, track stolen cars, disable stolen cars etc. What problem for them is to add one filter more to disable keys which wasn't make by dealer or just online pair your new phone as new key.
Regarding fame and money, no one do any serious hacks when: (invested money)>(return from investment)
At beginning exist many logical design errors and vulnerable hw. Each year this are is smaller.
paulsta
30th December, 2018, 09:42 AM
Can we just stick to what's working and what's not in this thread and maybe open another for this new conversation [emoji16]
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PocketHero
30th December, 2018, 10:00 AM
AVDI is boss of tool ... AVDI ford Mazda Nissan Kia Hyundai Bmw is boss
In your dreams...
To be precise: Kia Soul Electronic 2016.
AVDI wasn't able to communicate with the car, just fu**ed the car, fast charging wasn't possible anymore, had to bring back tó dealership...Lonsdor wrote that can't program any car after 2015, but gave the correct pin. No hard reset was necessary, made no mistakes with the car.
I've paid nearly the same price for Lonsdor and AVDI Ford package. The 518 made lots of cars beside Ford for that money, not just Ford and Mazda.
Speaking about Beemers: I've made good money with 518 on CAS2-CAS4, FEM system key learning, while the price of that package is damn expensive.
Every tool is good, if you learn how to use it
RIMKACHIP
30th December, 2018, 10:02 AM
Stop bla bla bla please just work and not work it’s good.
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Ecuprog31
1st January, 2019, 02:22 AM
Meriva b 2011
all key lost fail
learn key with pin no comunication
paulsta
1st January, 2019, 09:07 AM
Meriva b 2011
all key lost fail
learn key with pin no comunicationWhat did you try?
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paulsta
1st January, 2019, 09:08 AM
Renault Mégane 2006 AKL
Read pin ok
Programmed key ok
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Ecuprog31
2nd January, 2019, 02:52 AM
What did you try?
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All system
crazylou2017
2nd January, 2019, 11:09 AM
any one notice Lonsdor LKE emulator?
It is claimed to be more powerful than SKE emulators in five colors. And easy to carry only one piece instead of 5 pieces.
LKE capabilities:
1. Features of Toyota/Lexus smart key all lost(5 emulators-in-1
No need to dismantle
Can work without network connection
Localized computing
2. Generate chip
LKE can be used to work as an emergency key to program when no dedicated
chip.
3.Copy chip
By collecting data to decode and copy chip, LKE currently supports some 46 and 4D chip copy.
4. Simulate and convert chip
Use Lonsdor K518ISE [Generate chip] to make various chips, part of 4D/46 and SKE Toyota
currently supported.
5. Decode chip
Decode 46 and 4D chips to obtain SK.
6.Identify ignition coil and key chip type(all key lost)
7.As K518 helper:
Achieve programming key without PIN for Hyundai and Kia
Achieve programming key without PIN for BYD
Achieve programming key without PIN for Porsche Cayman(2005-2010)and boxster.
How to use Lonsdor LKE?
Boot K518 device, click "Special function" icon and choose corresponding functions (such as Identify & copy chip, Analog chip, Decode chip, Ignition coil) and operate as per system prompts. When it starts to work, signal light will go on; when at work, the light will flash; when finish work, the light will go out after 3 secs.
Update:
It can be upgraded through K518. Boot K518 device, place LKE into the card slot, in the interface of "Special function", click function icon, the system will notify whether to update, click OK to upgrade online directly.
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super jumbe
2nd January, 2019, 01:01 PM
any one notice Lonsdor LKE emulator?
It is claimed to be more powerful than SKE emulators in five colors. And easy to carry only one piece instead of 5 pieces.
LKE capabilities:
1. Features of Toyota/Lexus smart key all lost(5 emulators-in-1
No need to dismantle
Can work without network connection
Localized computing
2. Generate chip
LKE can be used to work as an emergency key to program when no dedicated
chip.
3.Copy chip
By collecting data to decode and copy chip, LKE currently supports some 46 and 4D chip copy.
4. Simulate and convert chip
Use Lonsdor K518ISE [Generate chip] to make various chips, part of 4D/46 and SKE Toyota
currently supported.
5. Decode chip
Decode 46 and 4D chips to obtain SK.
6.Identify ignition coil and key chip type(all key lost)
7.As K518 helper:
Achieve programming key without PIN for Hyundai and Kia
Achieve programming key without PIN for BYD
Achieve programming key without PIN for Porsche Cayman(2005-2010)and boxster.
How to use Lonsdor LKE?
Boot K518 device, click "Special function" icon and choose corresponding functions (such as Identify & copy chip, Analog chip, Decode chip, Ignition coil) and operate as per system prompts. When it starts to work, signal light will go on; when at work, the light will flash; when finish work, the light will go out after 3 secs.
Update:
It can be upgraded through K518. Boot K518 device, place LKE into the card slot, in the interface of "Special function", click function icon, the system will notify whether to update, click OK to upgrade online directly.
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We just keep buying not realising if it’s going to work or not, you got working video to support….
crazylou2017
3rd January, 2019, 02:36 AM
We just keep buying not realising if it’s going to work or not, you got working video to support….
That's true, when I have video, I'd like to share here. :-D
vladacira
3rd January, 2019, 11:23 PM
Peugeot 308 2008 year
read pin ok
add key ok
HeXeN
3rd January, 2019, 11:57 PM
I have bought all 5 emulators, and they now released LKE ??? This is a f..g joke
super jumbe
4th January, 2019, 01:32 AM
I have bought all 5 emulators, and they now released LKE ??? This is a f..g joke
They prodused the fifh one after 8 months and the last one was not cheap and I do not think this is the last one money making machine if you ask me.....http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/hmmmm.gif
crazylou2017
4th January, 2019, 02:09 AM
I have bought all 5 emulators, and they now released LKE ??? This is a f..g joke
The SKE emulator can go on working normally.
mobilek
5th January, 2019, 12:19 PM
Chrysler Voyager 2015
read PIN - OK
add key - OK
time - 3min
mobilek
6th January, 2019, 03:23 PM
Opel Insygnia 2012
Read PIN (BCM) - OK
add key - OK
radiosolutions
6th January, 2019, 06:20 PM
Clio 4 2015 reg. Read vin ,but then no communication. Not successful.
super jumbe
7th January, 2019, 08:46 AM
Any one got info when official licence 600 payments system coming into force and how are we going to pay paypal or bank transfer ….. http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/hmmmm.gif
drugowaz
7th January, 2019, 09:28 AM
Its already said. 600 pay not to lonsdor. Buy from dealers
ZINE DDINE
7th January, 2019, 09:43 AM
HI
BERLINBGO 2014 READ PIN ADD KEY OK
208 2014 READ PIN ADD KEY OK
rola1971
7th January, 2019, 05:01 PM
ford mondeo 2017 blade key add key ok.
radiosolutions
7th January, 2019, 10:17 PM
Ford Fiesta 2010 reg. Hands free key. Programmed perfectly.
super jumbe
7th January, 2019, 11:00 PM
Its already said. 600 pay not to lonsdor. Buy from dealers
Never thought there were cloned lonsdor in circulation how do they get updates!!!!
Weasel3
8th January, 2019, 12:19 AM
Never thought there were cloned lonsdor in circulation how do they get updates!!!!
:) The AliX sellers will start selling subscription. And other OBD CN sellers.
Then it would be easy to handle the large amount of customers. With good payment methods, which is easy for customers. Instead of bank transfer directly from the developer etc.
I have already seen in on the Xtoolpad2 400USD. 1 year.
The 518 tool starts to be close to one year old in English version now. So I guess its just a matter of time.
taxo1965
9th January, 2019, 12:03 PM
Hi all.I wanted to add a smart key did not work.
Mazda cx5 2015 smart key used
Programmed.........
and Programmed fail
shotaaa
9th January, 2019, 12:07 PM
Can somebody share link wher to buy this licens for 600 usd ?
AndyCZ
9th January, 2019, 08:03 PM
Scenic 3 2014 - read pin, add card OK.
Dacia Duster 2015 - not connected, tried under Dokker - programmed key successfully but key not work.
rola1971
10th January, 2019, 09:44 AM
citroen berlingo 2013 read pin code add keydiy universal key ok
nissan juke all key lost smart key steering realese ok key programming ok
K1nd3r
10th January, 2019, 12:01 PM
citroen berlingo 2013 read pin code add keydiy universal key ok
nissan juke all key lost smart key steering realese ok key programming ok
do you use for nissan juke key by part number for juke, or just any nissan AES?
AndyCZ
10th January, 2019, 02:25 PM
Mazda 5 2006 not even connected.
This tool is half sh**t for the updates in 600$
finakeys
10th January, 2019, 02:35 PM
Related vehicles - Volvo S40 / Ford cmax... Did you try any of those?
super jumbe
10th January, 2019, 02:50 PM
S40 dont think so.
qeso705
10th January, 2019, 03:46 PM
do you use for nissan juke key by part number for juke, or just any nissan AES?
Which year will be worth to add as in 2015 was facelift. My experience says that AES not fit, you need CWTWB1 in name.
rola1971
10th January, 2019, 04:57 PM
do you use for nissan juke key by part number for juke, or just any nissan AES?
i used for juke
in autokey seling to same part nm
Remote Print:
MODEL NAME TWB1G662
ALPS ELECTRIC CO LTD
finakeys
10th January, 2019, 05:26 PM
S40 dont think so.
You would know better than me but that's what it said on the Smart Pro screen.
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sdnatlst
11th January, 2019, 04:29 PM
tried first time for FIAT 500 today, had issues and ended up using MVP PRO again.....
Pulled pin - OK (was correct as customer also had pin on card)
Pre coded - OK (chose PCF7936 10-16pin) in the menu of options, as my aftermarket remote key has 14pin SMD
Programmed - OK
problem was, after all was done, new key would start car, but once the car was locked or started with original key, remote stopped working
IF i put aftermarket key into ignition and start car again, remote would start to work again, only for 1 click.
it was forgetting the key, when i done KEY COUNT, it counted 1 only when it stopped remote working,, when i put new key in and done key count, it was 2
Not sure what this would mean, programming error or precode error?
anyhow, with mvp pro the job was over in 1 minute with another key from same batch, new pre code and new programming.
any help? would love a fiat tool that did not eat tokens
elektron4321
11th January, 2019, 05:06 PM
im have lonsdor 3 months please dont buy !!!!!!!!!!!!!! szit
I do not make a lot of keys, but I am so annoyed by the lonsdor, I started to write my test
mondeo mk5 2013r NOT WORKING
LAND ROVER EVOQ 2015R NOT WORKING
PEUGEOT 208 WORKING
CADDY NEC=24C64 WORKING
A3 MQB 2014 BAD WERSION NOT WORKING
PASSAT B5 1998R MAGNETI NOT WORKING
CITROEN C4 PICASSO WORKING
DUKATO 2011R NOT WORKING
GRANDE PUNTO 2008R NOT WORKING
SCENIC ii WORKING
LAGUNA ii WORKING
BMW E90 CAS3++ NOT WORKING
BMW 1 CAS3 NOT WORKING
FUSION 2007R 1.6TDCI BOSCH NOT WORKING
FUSION 2017R USA WORKING
kia rio 2015r no pin code detect
I started to write when I noticed that most cars do not work. I think that the equipment is not worth half of what it costs.
rola1971
11th January, 2019, 06:42 PM
im have lonsdor 3 months please dont buy !!!!!!!!!!!!!! szit
I do not make a lot of keys, but I am so annoyed by the lonsdor, I started to write my test
mondeo mk5 2013r NOT WORKING
LAND ROVER EVOQ 2015R NOT WORKING
PEUGEOT 208 WORKING
CADDY NEC=24C64 WORKING
A3 MQB 2014 BAD WERSION NOT WORKING
PASSAT B5 1998R MAGNETI NOT WORKING
CITROEN C4 PICASSO WORKING
DUKATO 2011R NOT WORKING
GRANDE PUNTO 2008R NOT WORKING
SCENIC ii WORKING
LAGUNA ii WORKING
BMW E90 CAS3++ NOT WORKING
BMW 1 CAS3 NOT WORKING
FUSION 2007R 1.6TDCI BOSCH NOT WORKING
FUSION 2017R USA WORKING
kia rio 2015r no pin code detect
I started to write when I noticed that most cars do not work. I think that the equipment is not worth half of what it costs.
i doit mondeo 2012 blade key,2014 smart key, 2017 (mk6) blade key,kuga 2016 smart key all work
landrover discovery 2013,sport 2013,vougue 2014 all work
lot of hyunday from 2012 to 2017 smart and blade key (yes same time dont read pin but it is no big problem if have calkulator)
lot of nissan car from 205 to 2017 standart and smart (last job nissan leaf 2017 AKL smart key programming)
for my it is no to bad tools
for bmw and vag i used VVDI2 it is for my the best tools this moment
for Mercedes VVDI MB work perfect
kevfield
12th January, 2019, 01:17 AM
tried first time for FIAT 500 today, had issues and ended up using MVP PRO again.....
Pulled pin - OK (was correct as customer also had pin on card)
Pre coded - OK (chose PCF7936 10-16pin) in the menu of options, as my aftermarket remote key has 14pin SMD
Programmed - OK
problem was, after all was done, new key would start car, but once the car was locked or started with original key, remote stopped working
IF i put aftermarket key into ignition and start car again, remote would start to work again, only for 1 click.
it was forgetting the key, when i done KEY COUNT, it counted 1 only when it stopped remote working,, when i put new key in and done key count, it was 2
Not sure what this would mean, programming error or precode error?
anyhow, with mvp pro the job was over in 1 minute with another key from same batch, new pre code and new programming.
any help? would love a fiat tool that did not eat tokens
Did one last week work no problems at all , remote key ,precode ,program and added a normal too from AKL pissed it ..
Thanks Kev
sdnatlst
12th January, 2019, 11:59 AM
kev what did you select on pre-code screen? and what remote did you have, SMD wise?
also, what year was the fiat 500?
iTeck
12th January, 2019, 02:13 PM
Hi , i tested lonsdor on many cars and my happy whit it
I am happy that Peugeot and Citrone read the pin code without any problems
Opel Astra J 2015 EU (Add key , OK) Pin code from CAR PASS
Frod Fusion 2017 US (Add key , OK) No need pin code
Afla Romeo GT 2005 EU (Program remote , OK) need pin code
Ford Focus 2012 EU (Add proxy key , OK) No need pin code
Ford Ranger 2018 EU (Add key , faild on 2017 work) No need pin code
Renault Megane 2005 EU All keys lost (Program key , OK) No need pin code
Audi A3 1999 EU All keys lost (Program key , OK) pin code read whit Abrites FVDI , Lonsdor faild
Citroen C5 2011 EU (Program Key , OK) Pin code read whit Lonsdor ok
Hyundai Elantra 2014 EU (Program Key , OK) Pin code read whit Lonsdor ok
Audi A4 2010 EU (Program Key slot , OK) No need pin code
Audi S5 2012 EU (Program proxy key , OK) No need pin code
Audi A6 2006 EU (Program key , OK) No need pin code
Pegeout 308 CC 2012 EU (Program key , OK) Pin code read whit Lonsdor OK
BMW System CAS 2 / 3 / 3+ (Program key , OK)
BMW System CAS 3++ (Need backup eeprom manual and update FLASH from CAS , NOT TESTED)
BMW System CAS 4 /4+ (Disable key lost , OK)
Mazda M2 2004 EU (Add key , OK )
Fiat Doblo 2010 EU (Read pin code , OK)
Ecuprog31
13th January, 2019, 11:27 PM
Fiesta 2007 4d63 add key fail
Smart Fortwo 450 learn key fail
OPEL Zafira b read pin add key ok
polo 2006 add remote ok read pin fail fvdi also fail launch read pin ok
rollinghigher
14th January, 2019, 12:16 PM
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Hi all,
I have just bought Lonsdor K518.... Went through first setup, and all I have is the "Review Approval Progress" Screen.... I have been waiting 3 days!
Sent emails to service@lonsdor.com and nothing back.
Did it take any of you guys long time for this or is this not normal....
So far, bad support!
Thanks for any advice
shotaaa
14th January, 2019, 12:31 PM
Renault clio 2017 add key fail
drugowaz
14th January, 2019, 01:30 PM
Good joke :D
super jumbe
15th January, 2019, 08:40 PM
Some one said we do not have to pay if it’s the genuine tool from lonsdor, I just got the reminder to contact dealer I presume its all about the payment, don’t know who is the dealer, any one else got this message this week?
paulsta
15th January, 2019, 08:45 PM
Some one said we do not have to pay if it’s the genuine tool from lonsdor, I just got the reminder to contact dealer I presume its all about the payment, don’t know who is the dealer, any one else got this message this week?
nothing on mine as yet, i suppose it depends when you started your trial
drugowaz
15th January, 2019, 08:47 PM
Every one whoos 3 month free trial ended. No matter where you bought. Want use red functions. Pay 600
super jumbe
15th January, 2019, 10:09 PM
Look bottom line is when we purchased this tool they said no tokens and free updates for life, the only reason I always buy Chinese tools because you do not have to pay nothing after purchase, infant they lied all along we need more clarification at the time of purchase as its against the international law, they can not change the rules after purchase.http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/hmmmm.gif
K1nd3r
15th January, 2019, 10:25 PM
Look bottom line is when we purchased this tool they said no tokens and free updates for life, the only reason I always buy Chinese tools because you do not have to pay nothing after purchase, infant they lied all along we need more clarification at the time of purchase as its against the international law, they can not change the rules after purchase.http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/hmmmm.gif
paypal have rules, just need open enought cases and they will start thinking
kevfield
16th January, 2019, 01:40 AM
kev what did you select on pre-code screen? and what remote did you have, SMD wise?
also, what year was the fiat 500?10-16 remote it was 2012
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kevfield
16th January, 2019, 01:44 AM
tried first time for FIAT 500 today, had issues and ended up using MVP PRO again.....
Pulled pin - OK (was correct as customer also had pin on card)
Pre coded - OK (chose PCF7936 10-16pin) in the menu of options, as my aftermarket remote key has 14pin SMD
Programmed - OK
problem was, after all was done, new key would start car, but once the car was locked or started with original key, remote stopped working
IF i put aftermarket key into ignition and start car again, remote would start to work again, only for 1 click.
it was forgetting the key, when i done KEY COUNT, it counted 1 only when it stopped remote working,, when i put new key in and done key count, it was 2
Not sure what this would mean, programming error or precode error?
anyhow, with mvp pro the job was over in 1 minute with another key from same batch, new pre code and new programming.
any help? would love a fiat tool that did not eat tokensYour looking at the wrong IC it's the smaller IC not the pcf7946
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qeso705
16th January, 2019, 09:48 AM
Look bottom line is when we purchased this tool they said no tokens and free updates for life, the only reason I always buy Chinese tools because you do not have to pay nothing after purchase, infant they lied all along we need more clarification at the time of purchase as its against the international law, they can not change the rules after purchase.http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/hmmmm.gif
Abritus make exactly same move.
kostat
16th January, 2019, 12:59 PM
Hi. I've just received my londsor.
Here is my question: If i don't pay 600 for yearly subscription this year (2019), and choose to pay 600 for the next year (end of 2020),
will i have all the updates up until the year i'll pay?
super jumbe
16th January, 2019, 02:32 PM
Abritus make exactly same move.
Because you are told in advance read the small print.
super jumbe
16th January, 2019, 02:35 PM
Hi. I've just received my londsor.
Here is my question: If i don't pay 600 for yearly subscription this year (2019), and choose to pay 600 for the next year (end of 2020),
will i have all the updates up until the year i'll pay?
No 1 can answer because no rules to read.
p1et
16th January, 2019, 02:54 PM
Honestly I don't understand what you guys DON'T understand... Everything is explained. It's 600usd / year and you don't have to pay this. Since you pay and they activate functions, time is running out. What to explain more?
turboracing
16th January, 2019, 04:39 PM
were to contact lonsdor i have special function trial running out now and i try skype lonsdor mail lonsdor and no reply very strange ?
drugowaz
16th January, 2019, 05:04 PM
Lonsdor not sell any . You contact any lonsdor dealer
newone
16th January, 2019, 06:25 PM
Hi. I've just received my londsor.
Here is my question: If i don't pay 600 for yearly subscription this year (2019), and choose to pay 600 for the next year (end of 2020),
will i have all the updates up until the year i'll pay?
when you buy it you can use it only for the coverage in black lines,if you want the red line coverage you can use the 3 months free trial,after that if you want to continue with the red coverage you must pay 600 usd for one year,when this time pass programmer goes again to black coverage if you do not pay again.
mobilek
16th January, 2019, 09:27 PM
Hyundai Tucson 2017 USA
Add remote - OK
Car didn't have immo !! :D
sdnatlst
16th January, 2019, 11:04 PM
Hi what smd legs has this fiat 500 board got ?
6? Never seen that before.
Usually 10
kostat
17th January, 2019, 09:17 AM
when you buy it you can use it only for the coverage in black lines,if you want the red line coverage you can use the 3 months free trial,after that if you want to continue with the red coverage you must pay 600 usd for one year,when this time pass programmer goes again to black coverage if you do not pay again.
Thanks for replying...
So if i pay 600USD next year (2020) will i also have the updates of 2019 ?
And those car models that included in update that i pay, will they be free for lifetime?
HeXeN
17th January, 2019, 09:34 AM
Clio 2018 any tested ?
newone
17th January, 2019, 09:59 AM
Thanks for replying...
So if i pay 600USD next year (2020) will i also have the updates of 2019 ?
And those car models that included in update that i pay, will they be free for lifetime?
you did not understand my friend,without paying each year you will have only the coverage of the black lines(basic things)for usiig everything else that is in the red coverage you have to pay every year,if you stop to pay in future your machine will have only the black coverage on list,all red will be lost
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