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paul_12345
17th January, 2019, 12:05 PM
you did not understand my friend,without paying each year you will have only the coverage of the black lines(basic things)for usiig everything else that is in the red coverage you have to pay every year,if you stop to pay in future your machine will have only the black coverage on list,all red will be lost
not what he is asking... he means do you have to pay every year without fail to get all coverage, or can you miss a year and have black coverage for a year then the following year pay 600 and then have full red coverage or would he then need to pay 1200 because he missed a year.
kostat
17th January, 2019, 12:47 PM
not what he is asking... he means do you have to pay every year without fail to get all coverage, or can you miss a year and have black coverage for a year then the following year pay 600 and then have full red coverage or would he then need to pay 1200 because he missed a year.
Exactly my friend....Also in order to make, for example opel corsa D, opel astra J for lifetime, will i have to pay 600usd every year?
HeXeN
17th January, 2019, 01:24 PM
Not sense to invest big money in tools without future.
drugowaz
17th January, 2019, 01:32 PM
Afyer latest updates many write about huge amount of bugs or not work at all. Before they started this trial shit
Tool was normal. Now they started add new functions and fusabling old ones if not use trial. This messed up all. No support at all or they respond after week when car already gone. They not have support team. Only technicians but contact with them no chance
TukoSalamanca2
17th January, 2019, 03:33 PM
Afyer latest updates many write about huge amount of bugs or not work at all. Before they started this trial shit
Tool was normal. Now they started add new functions and fusabling old ones if not use trial. This messed up all. No support at all or they respond after week when car already gone. They not have support team. Only technicians but contact with them no chance
So do you say that is better buy aurodiag?
drugowaz
17th January, 2019, 04:12 PM
I not say anything. You buy what you want. But now lonsdor getting worse
kostat
17th January, 2019, 05:13 PM
you did not understand my friend,without paying each year you will have only the coverage of the black lines(basic things)for usiig everything else that is in the red coverage you have to pay every year,if you stop to pay in future your machine will have only the black coverage on list,all red will be lost
So you 're telling me, if i want to make keys for opel corsa d, opel astra j, that are now listed red, i have to pay each year 600 usd?!?! Or if i pay them 600 i will have these specific opel (corsa d,astra j) free for lifetime?
Sorry for my english.
p1et
17th January, 2019, 05:23 PM
So you 're telling me, if i want to make keys for opel corsa d, opel astra j, that are now listed red, i have to pay each year 600 usd?!?! Or if i pay them 600 i will have these specific opel (corsa d,astra j) free for lifetime?
Sorry for my english.
600 USD / YEAR
Is that a zodiac crypt letter or what if you can't understand that?
newone
17th January, 2019, 05:24 PM
So you 're telling me, if i want to make keys for opel corsa d, opel astra j, that are now listed red, i have to pay each year 600 usd?!?! Or if i pay them 600 i will have these specific opel (corsa d,astra j) free for lifetime?
Sorry for my english.
you will have to pay 600 each year,lets say it a different way,by paying 600 every year you do not own anything permantly,they just allow to use what is in red coverage for a year,if year pass and want to use fuctions in red coverage you must pay another 600,only blak coverage is for lifetime,for red 600 for every year and by the way no one can promise you that it will be 600 for next year,they may decide 1000...remember that when they start they said FREE UPDATES LIFETIME...
kostat
17th January, 2019, 06:15 PM
[QUOTE=newone;3475433]you will have to pay 600 each year,lets say it a different way,by paying 600 every year you do not own anything permantly,they just allow to use what is in red coverage for a year,if year pass and want to use fuctions in red coverage you must pay another 600,only blak coverage is for lifetime,for red 600 for every year and by the way no one can promise you that it will be 600 for next year,they may decide 1000...remember that when they start they said FREE UPDATES LIFETIME...[/QUOTE
Since they 've said FREE UPDATES FOR LIFETIME, and then changed it, can't we refer to paypal or something to point out their fraud?
It's ridiculous, totally rip off for an unstable crap like this.
I'm selling it...By far the biggest fail of my life...
shotaaa
17th January, 2019, 07:49 PM
Clio 2018 any tested ?
Tried on 2017 dont work
super jumbe
17th January, 2019, 09:41 PM
600 USD / YEAR
Is that a zodiac crypt letter or what if you can't understand that?
I don’t understand what you all own about, some one came on dk and said we will all have to pay 600 every year, but when you go to lonsdor website there is no mention of 600 for red activation, my point the lonsdor company website should tell us to pay 600 for all new modules activation and they should tell us to read buyers terms and conditions can some one point me to that website to pay 600?
super jumbe
17th January, 2019, 09:51 PM
Information about subcription update for a year: 600$
I'm planning to buy, but now this will be ban.
lion0304 he got the first information about subcription update for a year 600 I wonder were did he read this information in the first place.
shotaaa
17th January, 2019, 10:58 PM
Can somebody share link wher to buy this licens for 600 usd ?
........???
sdnatlst
17th January, 2019, 11:18 PM
http://www.obdii365.com/wholesale/lonsdor-k518ise-yearly-update-subscription.html
newone
18th January, 2019, 08:07 AM
http://www.obdii365.com/wholesale/lonsdor-k518ise-yearly-update-subscription.html
super jumbe (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/27064-super-jumbe) does not ask for resselers,he asks for their main page and about their sales policy(where is written),it is different when you buy a cheap china programmer for 300-500 usd and tottaly different thing when you must pay about 2000,i do not say it is not good at all but for about the double price you get smart pro and you now where you stand plus you will have a programmer supported for some years,with lonsdor you know nothing.
super jumbe
18th January, 2019, 09:35 AM
Newman you got it right, the only company asking for 600 are the resellers and not the manufactures of the lonsdor tool and software maker, we just want the lonsdor company to make it clearer to the people in user’s agreements.
Look VVDI spokesmen is doing a great job, he is giving technical supports and giving all the information to every buyers in the world, we do not have technical support for lonsdor company and the resellers are taking the advantage asking for money and lonsdor doesn’t know any thing about and it looks like the resellers are breaking the rules.
We should write to the Consulate General of the People’s Republic of China in UK to investigate the company of misleading customers knowingly to pay 600 from resellers amd some resellers are asking for over 630 yearly, we should also ask UK Standards Agency to investigate as soon as possible, we just want to hear from lonsdor company this is legal and give us users agreement. :mad-new:
K1nd3r
18th January, 2019, 10:12 AM
looks like 600 takes lonsdor, 30 reseller
newone
18th January, 2019, 12:06 PM
Londor is playing their game good,after their first advertise for free lifetime updates which take it back now keep their price policy not clear,i was thinking to buy k518 in the beggining and also with the 600 per year,but with bad reports for updates and no trust that fee per year will stay the same or when they drop support for the k518 and come out with a new hardware i hold back and thinking about the smart pro,more expencive of course but is something that i can trust
hipolitogt
18th January, 2019, 12:38 PM
Londor is playing their game good,after their first advertise for free lifetime updates which take it back now keep their price policy not clear,i was thinking to buy k518 in the beggining and also with the 600 per year,but with bad reports for updates and no trust that fee per year will stay the same or when they drop support for the k518 and come out with a new hardware i hold back and thinking about the smart pro,more expencive of course but is something that i can trustI don't say anything about Lonsdor, for me is working ok, but SmartPro for me is a ~~~~ing shit. You don't want spend 600€ in upgrades and you will spend money in tokens, or if you want tokens unlimited you will spend 1800€+vat every year. And of course you will pay 7-8000 euro plus vat... Advanced diagnostics is a ~~~~ing shit!!! I bought one and is the worst money spent in my life. And about trusting... They want all for everything and if not work, sorry man... And of course, tokens spent...
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sdnatlst
18th January, 2019, 07:05 PM
i agree, i have MVP PRO,,, when programming or something fails,,, tokens lost and no getting back ,, reasons like didnt buy key from dealer or silca sellers,, londsor for me is good tool
iTeck
18th January, 2019, 08:37 PM
Audi A6 2005 EU (Program key , OK)
Opel Astra G 1998 EU ALL KEYS LOST (Program key , OK) Can't read pin code whit Lonsdor faild , need to do eeprom on immo
Ford Focus 2000 EU ALL KEYS LOST (Faild 4D-60 Transponder) SBB do the job
ps80l
20th January, 2019, 12:58 AM
Cant find Audi A4 cluster from 05.5 to 08. I believe it's RB8 or RB4. Had to finish job with vvdi2.
Am I crazy and didn't see selection or does Lonsdor not support these years A4???
iTeck
20th January, 2019, 01:16 PM
Cant find Audi A4 cluster from 05.5 to 08. I believe it's RB8 or RB4. Had to finish job with vvdi2.
Am I crazy and didn't see selection or does Lonsdor not support these years A4???
Hmm , try on VW - IMMO 3.5 or 3
p1et
20th January, 2019, 09:39 PM
Better not try RB8 dash with this tool unless you want to deal with dEF error on cluster.
WD40
20th January, 2019, 10:38 PM
I don't say anything about Lonsdor, for me is working ok, but SmartPro for me is a ~~~~ing shit. You don't want spend 600€ in upgrades and you will spend money in tokens, or if you want tokens unlimited you will spend 1800€+vat every year. And of course you will pay 7-8000 euro plus vat... Advanced diagnostics is a ~~~~ing shit!!! I bought one and is the worst money spent in my life. And about trusting... They want all for everything and if not work, sorry man... And of course, tokens spent...
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You don’t know any thing about SmartPro the best tool ever made and if you want to talk about lonsdor they are still cheating customers getting 600 when not declared.
Even now when you are about to buy this tool K5181ES from all the sellers online they still says the Lonsdor K518ISE Key Programmer for All Makes Free Update. Who you are going to trust the manufactures or the re-sellers?
None off the sellers have mention 600 you need to pay after 3 months, I stopped buying lonsdor tools after I bought SK1000 they stopped updating after 6 months and I will never buy lonsdor tools again, this company is going to get bankrupt soon just like FLY company was in the similar situation keep lying to customers eventually no one wants to buy from them.
hipolitogt
20th January, 2019, 11:00 PM
You don’t know any thing about SmartPro the best tool ever made and if you want to talk about lonsdor they are still cheating customers getting 600 when not declared.
Even now when you are about to buy this tool K5181ES from all the sellers online they still says the Lonsdor K518ISE Key Programmer for All Makes Free Update. Who you are going to trust the manufactures or the re-sellers?
None off the sellers have mention 600 you need to pay after 3 months, I stopped buying lonsdor tools after I bought SK1000 they stopped updating after 6 months and I will never buy lonsdor tools again, this company is going to get bankrupt soon just like FLY company was in the similar situation keep lying to customers eventually no one wants to buy from them.As I said, lonsdor can be cheaters or not. Advanced Diagnostics, for me (it's my opinion), they are. They and all of silca marketing. They sell smoke, but as you said, they pay taxes and then are "legal". As I said before, I don't like them. And lonsdor too... But I pay less with lonsdor than MVP.
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perfido
21st January, 2019, 04:28 AM
Bmw cas4 done ( read cas with upa-s)
PocketHero
21st January, 2019, 11:14 AM
Ssangyong Rexton 2006 Diesel. Add key and AKL failed, "Function not supported".
Same error with SBB2, maybe the ecu is defected.
crazylou2017
22nd January, 2019, 09:57 AM
Lonsdor K518ISE extend the free update to 6 months.
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Dave1985
22nd January, 2019, 10:04 AM
i also find this announcment in FB
K1nd3r
22nd January, 2019, 10:07 AM
instead of new functions, they prolong free period....
sye27781
22nd January, 2019, 04:33 PM
Real shame about this company, they promise free updates for life then change it to free updates for life but 600 subscription for certain manufacturers or models then it was updates free for 3 months now its updates free for 6 months.
I really wanted one of these machines and was really close to purchasing one till i found this thread.
All i was looking for is good coverage of later vehicles with no tokens and a reasonable price 1k-2k
But they move the goal post so much its untrustworthy.
Looks like im saving up for zed full unless anyone has any substitutes for this i can look at?
Thought about vvdi2 but dont know enough about it.
All my eeprom work i have managed to do using either upa, xprog-m or ktag.
Tango clone or zed bull for transponder production and add key immo.
I have skp900 and sbb2 which cover older cars. Just struggling on some of the newer stuff.
But im glad i read 80% of this thread before wasting money on this untrustworthy company
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super jumbe
22nd January, 2019, 06:22 PM
Lonsdor K518ISE extend the free update to 6 months.
589254
We need even better news for you all the seccess in your effort and confidence to people.
crazylou2017
23rd January, 2019, 02:14 AM
Real shame about this company, they promise free updates for life then change it to free updates for life but 600 subscription for certain manufacturers or models then it was updates free for 3 months now its updates free for 6 months.
I really wanted one of these machines and was really close to purchasing one till i found this thread.
All i was looking for is good coverage of later vehicles with no tokens and a reasonable price 1k-2k
But they move the goal post so much its untrustworthy.
Looks like im saving up for zed full unless anyone has any substitutes for this i can look at?
Thought about vvdi2 but dont know enough about it.
All my eeprom work i have managed to do using either upa, xprog-m or ktag.
Tango clone or zed bull for transponder production and add key immo.
I have skp900 and sbb2 which cover older cars. Just struggling on some of the newer stuff.
But im glad i read 80% of this thread before wasting money on this untrustworthy company
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I think the value of one machine is to help people make money, if Lonsdor K518ISE can help you make profit, it's good tool.
There are many car models are free update lifetime (about 38pages update in October, 2018 and only 10 pages of models charge if you need).
super jumbe
24th January, 2019, 08:40 PM
Zafira 2013 no communication with obd...
sdnatlst
24th January, 2019, 09:43 PM
Zafira 2013 no communication with obd...
did you try astra J or Insignia too?
super jumbe
25th January, 2019, 12:05 AM
did you try astra J or Insignia too?
Yes I did, read pincode ok went to programme key says no coms failed. key pcf7941
super jumbe
25th January, 2019, 12:10 AM
Lads just thought do I need to precode the remote pcf7941 in order to programme?
kevfield
25th January, 2019, 12:21 AM
Not needed for this key
Thanks Kev
habbyb
26th January, 2019, 08:51 AM
does anyone know , is moderator on forum for lonsdor ???
Freezzby
26th January, 2019, 04:09 PM
Hi it's normal that en.lonsdor.com not working anymore ?
And they are joking to ask 600usd when they told free updates .
K1nd3r
26th January, 2019, 04:25 PM
Hi it's normal that en.lonsdor.com not working anymore ?
And they are joking to ask 600usd when they told free updates .
we should called this YEARLY USER PAYMENT, not updates
these updates will be your never
super jumbe
27th January, 2019, 01:17 AM
does anyone know , is moderator on forum for lonsdor ???
Bottom line (NO) If you got issue with lonsdor get it out hear...
auto techniek
27th January, 2019, 09:13 PM
Anyone tired key program Opel Vivaro A 2011?
hipolitogt
27th January, 2019, 10:49 PM
Anyone tired key program Opel Vivaro A 2011?Renault Traffic?
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lion0304
28th January, 2019, 02:06 AM
Anyone tired key program Opel Vivaro A 2011?
Program under Renault Master or Traffic
lonsdor
29th January, 2019, 03:48 AM
Yes I did, read pincode ok went to programme key says no coms failed. key pcf7941
read pincode in zafira menu? ordinary key or smart key? add or lost? what did the device show? send me a photo.
paulsta
2nd February, 2019, 01:37 PM
AUDI A5 2010 immo5 AKL
Read BCM2 and Learn key = Pass
super jumbe
2nd February, 2019, 02:35 PM
AUDI A5 2010 immo5 AKL
Read BCM2 and Learn key = Pass
How did you read BCM2?
paulsta
2nd February, 2019, 02:56 PM
How did you read BCM2?With lonsdor all obd
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HeXeN
2nd February, 2019, 06:23 PM
Dodge Journey 2009 fobik, read pin FAIL.
Fvdi OK 5seconds.
paulsta
3rd February, 2019, 07:15 PM
Hyundai I20 2010
Read Pin =FAIL (used vvdi key tool to get pin)
Program Key = Pass
Program Remote = Pass
rojhat
3rd February, 2019, 07:18 PM
Today crap tool usb port didnt work laptop changed same usb same . Open it rework usb port.and fuse .and work again all pcb have low solder quality .
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alex_r_2001
4th February, 2019, 01:55 AM
2015 Hyundai Tucson not work at all to program new key.. Only tool that worked for me was Autel Ms908..
Also did not work for 2014 Dodge Ram 1500
sleepyrz
4th February, 2019, 05:24 AM
Also did not work for 2014 Dodge Ram 1500
which type of ignition?
y170 pod?
blade?
fobik?
keyless go?
prox?
fail on pin?
no connection at all?
you have right key? fobik is GQ4-53T for ram
paulsta
4th February, 2019, 07:32 AM
Double post
paulsta
4th February, 2019, 07:35 AM
2015 Hyundai Tucson not work at all to program new key.. Only tool that worked for me was Autel Ms908..
https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/563630-LONSDOR-K518?p=3444187&viewfull=1#post3444187 (https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edigital-kaos%2Eco%2Euk%2Fforums%2Fshowthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D5 63630&share_tid=563630&share_fid=4633&share_type=t)
Read my post, Tucson does work but not by selecting it on the menu
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paulsta
5th February, 2019, 12:20 AM
Ford KA 2009 AKL
Used Fiat 500 to do the job
Read Pin = Pass
Program Key = Pass
Remote Precode = Fail (i selected 8 pins and key was 10)
Peugeot 206 2004 AKL
Read Pin = Pass (Type 4 K-Line)
Program Key = Pass
sleepyrz
6th February, 2019, 12:50 PM
https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/563630-LONSDOR-K518?p=3444187&viewfull=1#post3444187 (https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edigital-kaos%2Eco%2Euk%2Fforums%2Fshowthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D5 63630&share_tid=563630&share_fid=4633&share_type=t)
Read my post, Tucson does work but not by selecting it on the menu
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not sure why but that linky no worky
also hes in the USA its possible its a different system??
paulsta
6th February, 2019, 12:58 PM
not sure why but that linky no worky
also hes in the USA its possible its a different system??
I had same issue selecting Tucson, It just kept failing so i used Santa FE and it worked
not sure about the link though as it shows the correct post number
paulsta
6th February, 2019, 02:08 PM
.........................
mobilek
12th February, 2019, 08:37 PM
Mazda CX-5 2017 USA
Add key - OK
Time - 7min
Jeep Grand Cherokee 2014 USA
Add key - OK
Time - 3min
paulsta
16th February, 2019, 04:06 PM
2013 Corsa D (This is a paid function)
Pulled wrong pin
Used another tool to get correct pin
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p1et
16th February, 2019, 07:16 PM
2013 Corsa D (This is a paid function)
Pulled wrong pin
Used another tool to get correct pin
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On monday I will have Corsa D same year (2013). We'll see the results - I will report here
autochei
16th February, 2019, 10:53 PM
pass--- succes or fail?
paulsta
16th February, 2019, 10:55 PM
pass--- succes or fail???
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p1et
18th February, 2019, 11:59 PM
Corsa D 2013 - read pin - OK, program key FAIL (under menu of Corsa D it displayed 'wrong pin code' - I did not try other menus for programming). The PIN code read by Lonsdor was OK because I programmed this car with AD100 pro using same code.
Iveco Daily 2008 program remote FAIL (no comms with car), done with MVP
VW Sharan 2012 FAIL to backup immo data (before trial version I made a couple and worked fine), done with other tool
paulsta
19th February, 2019, 07:50 AM
Corsa D 2013 - read pin - OK, program key FAIL (under menu of Corsa D it displayed 'wrong pin code' - I did not try other menus for programming). The PIN code read by Lonsdor was OK because I programmed this car with AD100 pro using same code.
Iveco Daily 2008 program remote FAIL (no comms with car), done with MVP
VW Sharan 2012 FAIL to backup immo data (before trial version I made a couple and worked fine), done with other toolIt still doesn't justify $600 for the paid subscription, they need to come with something better than this as other tools do the job token free.
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kostat
19th February, 2019, 11:18 AM
Europe:
OPEL CORSA C: Pin OK under type3 (fail under corca c menu), add key OK, remote fail (done with zed-full)
HONDA H-RV 2015 immo+remote OK (IMMO TYPE 2)
OPEL ASTRA H: Pin OK (type3), add key+remote OK.
Strange thing, corca c with id40 and astra h with id46, worked under the same option, type 3.
bigkey
19th February, 2019, 01:43 PM
Hi, was the Ranger 2017 add key or all keys lost? Thanks
Is this a tested working solution now?
Ford Ranger 2017 works perfect. 2 Mins done with ID49 / Onboard chip.
New Ranger 2018 Failed to get Security.
VW Jetta with CDC cluster Failed......
VW Polo with Crypto 93C86 failed to read pin.
Land rover 2013 SMart key add / all keys lost worked perfect in 1 min....
Dalmore27
19th February, 2019, 11:01 PM
Has anyone had success with 2013 Ford Fusion( Mondeo in Europe) . BCM- DG9T-14F141-CE . It recognizes BCM and key count, but fails at gaining security access.
Worked perfect on 2014/2015/2016 Ford Fusion....
grzyb26
20th February, 2019, 10:09 PM
Honda civic 2016 ok
Ford Kuga 2017 Fail
auto techniek
21st February, 2019, 12:20 PM
I ve some issue
One click update button does not work. Nothing happens when pressed.
sdnatlst
21st February, 2019, 08:22 PM
Does this work for Clio 4, 2015 year with the Key card system?
I have a customer with 2015 clio keycard stopped working,,, i have MVP pro but ti says only does 2012-2015 clio 4, so wonder if anything changed in 2015 on the cars?
i hope lonsdor will do it
super jumbe
21st February, 2019, 08:22 PM
Honda civic 2016 ok
Ford Kuga 2017 Fail
How did you read civic pincode?
grzyb26
21st February, 2019, 10:39 PM
he was not needed
How did you read civic pincode?
ford ecosport 2014 add smartkey ok
dacia sandero 2009 add key ok
PocketHero
22nd February, 2019, 06:14 AM
I ve some issue
One click update button does not work. Nothing happens when pressed.Because there's no updates availa le for ya
auto techniek
22nd February, 2019, 09:11 AM
Done spare key Opel Corsa E 2016
10 minute job
kostat
22nd February, 2019, 05:34 PM
OPEL COMBO (2005, ID40) : Pin ok, type3
Program new key ok
remote ok, through meriva (paid function)
Basically for all OPEL that i tried ( astra h, corsa c, combo id40, zafira b ), i got pin trough type3, nothing else worked
autopeter2
24th February, 2019, 02:48 PM
Any idea if device can do Passat b6, b7.
AndyCZ
25th February, 2019, 12:59 PM
Dokker 2015 failed - request incode.
auto techniek
25th February, 2019, 06:37 PM
Anyone tried program key for smart for four?
mobilek
25th February, 2019, 08:32 PM
Dokker 2015 failed - request incode.
Yes, i had the same problem. Lonsdor showed the wrong number of keys and did not add a new one.
Smart Fortwo still does not add central locking controls: /
taxo1965
26th February, 2019, 05:54 AM
Lexus 2007 all smart key lost.Black: SKE-LT-DST40(94/D4) - Supports 94/D4 smart key
Programmed ok
crazylou2017
28th February, 2019, 07:34 AM
Lonsdor K518ISE (English Version) will have a new name K518S.
K518S has tha same coverage and capabilities as K518ISE, what the difference is K518S is available with basic version and payable version as you like.
K518ISE can be updated even though the new K518S is realeased.
super jumbe
28th February, 2019, 09:45 AM
Lonsdor K518ISE (English Version) will have a new name K518S.
K518S has tha same coverage and capabilities as K518ISE, what the difference is K518S is available with basic version and payable version as you like.
K518ISE can be updated even though the new K518S is realeased.
Don’t make any sense what’s the catch $$$$$
crazylou2017
1st March, 2019, 08:18 AM
600166
Have a look at Lonsdor K518S image :star:
lem2
1st March, 2019, 09:13 AM
Does anyone know from which year can you add a key via OBD to Fiat Ducato (Jumper, Boxer)? From the middle of 2009, it seems to me that they were already at ID46. The program is only from 2012.
K1nd3r
5th March, 2019, 06:54 PM
someone had expierience with ford c-max 2014? emergency transponder programming ok, but keyless not. Device write successefull, bt nothing works.
finakeys
5th March, 2019, 08:45 PM
Don’t make any sense what’s the catch $$$$$
So now you get to buy the Lonsdor K518s unit for around £600 for basic software OR the K518s with a "Lifetime" updates option for nearly 2.5K, plus 600 quid for the unit. http://www.obdexpress.co.uk/wholesale/lonsdor-k518s-update-subscription-for-lifetime.html
As i understand there is no lifetime update option for ise.
It's kinda just like when you got to buy the Lonsdor K518ise with "lifetime" upgrades for the last 2 years, until they decided to charge £600 yearly extra.
Remind me not to move Shenzhen, China as life expectancy seems to be pretty low...
super jumbe
5th March, 2019, 09:13 PM
I can only speak for myself I can not trust them anymore, I believed they were going for gold fortunately in long run they are going to lose every thing how you would trust update for life after what they said last year!!!http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/roflmao.gif
R2D2R2
5th March, 2019, 09:54 PM
scandalous , $3000 it's an joke ?
VVDI2 full = $2000
Renault Ecu Tool = $700
SuperVAG = $1000
Zedfull = $3200
TrueCode full = $3700
Copy ( made in china ) have upper price than original made in EU
i think only EU developer can stop this comedy , stop token & price down !
comizelu
5th March, 2019, 10:26 PM
scandalous , $3000 it's an joke ?
VVDI2 full = $2000
Renault Ecu Tool = $700
SuperVAG = $1000
Zedfull = $3200
TrueCode full = $3700
Copy ( made in china ) have upper price than original made in EU
i think only EU developer can stop this comedy , stop token & price down !Where have you seen these prices?
Supervag 1000€
Truecode 3500£
Vvdi2 2300$
I agree with you better eu tools but curious prices you have.[emoji848][emoji12]
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p1et
5th March, 2019, 11:12 PM
Audi A6 C6 2010 add remote key OK
PocketHero
6th March, 2019, 07:38 PM
Citroen C2 2005, akl. Read Pin ok (4), programing fails. Tried with CK100, after first fails we discovered that the trunk wasnt closed. After closing it everything's fine, but didn't tried again with Lonsdor.
R2D2R2
6th March, 2019, 09:28 PM
Citroen C2 2005, akl. Read Pin ok (4), programing fails. Tried with CK100, after first fails we discovered that the trunk wasnt closed. After closing it everything's fine, but didn't tried again with Lonsdor.
Trunk ??? i never hear that ... hi hi hi
p1et
6th March, 2019, 10:20 PM
Trunk ??? i never hear that ... hi hi hi
During programming PSA cars usually programmer inform you to ensure that all doors and trunk are closed, I don't know if Lonsdor does this but SBB, MVP/AD100 pro does this for sure. If you keep door opened duing programming procedure it might be interrupted.
R2D2R2
6th March, 2019, 11:44 PM
During programming PSA cars usually programmer inform you to ensure that all doors and trunk are closed, I don't know if Lonsdor does this but SBB, MVP/AD100 pro does this for sure. If you keep door opened duing programming procedure it might be interrupted.
no need to close any door or trunk to programming key , tested on any PSA past 2000 year , same for remote control synchronize !
PocketHero
7th March, 2019, 12:20 AM
no need to close any door or trunk to programming key , tested on any PSA past 2000 year , same for remote control synchronize !Lonsdor gave an empty page, and an ok Button under it. If you Pressed ok, then it quited without any message.
super jumbe
7th March, 2019, 11:17 AM
Warning!!!
Lads do not use lonsdor to read pin code BCM on insignia 2010 up and Astra J it keeps saying please wait this option will kill your BCM.
ghostrider72
7th March, 2019, 12:38 PM
this option will kill your BCM.
What a perfect tool than [emoji23]
paulsta
7th March, 2019, 12:47 PM
Warning!!!
Lads do not use lonsdor to read pin code BCM on insignia 2010 up and Astra J it keeps saying please wait this option will kill your BCM.Did one yesterday with no issue
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super jumbe
7th March, 2019, 01:18 PM
Did one yesterday with no issue
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Did you read just pin or did you just programme the key with pincode manualy?
paulsta
7th March, 2019, 01:26 PM
Did you read just pin or did you just programme the key with pincode manualy?Both, I've done a good few with no issues
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p1et
7th March, 2019, 02:19 PM
I've done Astra J 2015 today and also no issue at all. Maybe if you choose wrong system for pin code reading something might goes wrong?
@super jumbe and what are the symptoms of that 'killed' BCM?
super jumbe
7th March, 2019, 02:33 PM
No communication with BCM When it was reading it keep saying please wait and I waited for 30min just can not wait any longer found out the BCM dead.
p1et
7th March, 2019, 02:51 PM
Okay but the customer came to you and you made this car non runner or what? Please elaborate your statement about BCM being 'killed'
qeso705
7th March, 2019, 03:04 PM
No communication with BCM When it was reading it keep saying please wait and I waited for 30min just can not wait any longer found out the BCM dead.
Just make battery reset.
sdnatlst
7th March, 2019, 06:34 PM
done around 30 astra J and insignia with lonsdor.... pin and program
super jumbe
9th March, 2019, 08:23 PM
Can some one explan how to read epprom BCM on insignia 2010, obd can not read.
brend
9th March, 2019, 08:58 PM
For safe job ,if obd2 away not read only in bench.
Desolder eeprom and read this...........602556
Can some one explan how to read epprom BCM on insignia 2010, obd can not read.
auto techniek
11th March, 2019, 12:38 PM
I see that the last update for this tool is oct 30. 2018.
Is this correct?
p1et
11th March, 2019, 02:25 PM
I see that the last update for this tool is oct 30. 2018.
Is this correct?
Officially yes but there were some updates which they don't mention on website. That's probably like that because those further updates are just fixing bugs / not working menus. October 30 was the day when they introduced Fiat functions I believe, although those functions were available couple months back then but many people didn't even know about it :D A little bit strange policy
mobilek
11th March, 2019, 04:05 PM
I'm wondering if there will be any more updates ? :hmmmm2:
super jumbe
11th March, 2019, 09:47 PM
Mine updated on 8th March 2019 and I wonder I may have picked some bugs.......
super jumbe
11th March, 2019, 09:50 PM
I'm wondering if there will be any more updates ? :hmmmm2:
Good question with the new model in the market I would cross my fingers!!!
finakeys
11th March, 2019, 10:33 PM
Hi, Did you figure out if Lonsdor killed it ,or were there problems with the vehicle already?
habbyb
12th March, 2019, 08:41 AM
hello colleagues , please I need one dump from cem XC60 after 2009 , for unlocking keys and check my Lonsdor , thank you in advance .
Fallen
13th March, 2019, 11:27 AM
Had an issue with a 2014 V40 Volvo the other day.
It would program the new keys but would some times give error on cluster "Key error, restart car" and the car would either die or not rev above 1000rpm.
Tried 2 different keys, both same problem.
Never had this issue before, not sure if they have updated something or it was just a flaky car.
Original key worked ok.
habbyb
14th March, 2019, 08:42 AM
please put here dump from cem .
taxo1965
15th March, 2019, 05:09 PM
Mazda CX-9 2009 all key lost TIRIS DST (ID63)+ 3 Button Smart Key Fob Remote programmed OK
3 Button Smart Key Fob Remote USED
comizelu
16th March, 2019, 12:28 AM
Hi
Can someone please explain me what's the difference between K518ISE and K518S?
Price is $450 difference? Something else other than that?
Thanks
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kostat
16th March, 2019, 12:27 PM
[QUOTE=comizelu;3527644]Hi
Can someone please explain me what's the difference between K518ISE and K518S?
Price is $450 difference? Something else other than that?
Thanks
With the new model k518s you don't have the paid functions available, not even free trial (for 3 or 6 months),
But you can purchase the paid function FOREVER for 3000euros, whereas in k518ise you can't purchase these paid functions forever, the only way to use them (with k518ise) is by paying 600 euros every year, plus in k518ise you get 3 months free trial for every paid function update, in k518s you don't get free 3 months trial for updates that are paid function.
sleepyrz
16th March, 2019, 03:41 PM
Lonsdor k518ise car list:
SCION \CH-R\2018\ Smart key
SCION \CH-R\2018\Mechanical key
SCION \2013-2016\ Smart key
SCION \FR-S\2013-2016\Mechanical key
SCION \iA2016-2018\ Smart key
SCION \iM\2017-2018\Mechanical key
SCION \iQ\2012-2015\Mechanlcal key
SCION \tC\2005-2010\Mechanical key
SCION \tC\2011-2015\ Smart key
SCION \tC\2011-2015\Mechanical key
SCION \xB\2012-2013\Mechanical key
SCION \xB\2012\Remote
SCION \xD\2012-2013\Mechanical key
More Lonsdor update info released on 14-03-2019:
Software Update/Optimization Highlights
VAG IMMO K-Line 2&3 PIN code reading capability
BMW CAS1 Available as of now
BMW FEM/BDC latest variant indexes added as listed below
KIA/HYUNDAI Type 46 PIN code read for both Smart + Key-blade transponder types + implementation of LKE Emulator to enable PIN reading in case of AKL
Toyota selection menu by vehicle model
Porsche previously unsupported models AKL added via LKE Emulator
in detail..
Lonsdor k518ise Software Optimization:
1.VWIMM02&IMM03 [Read PIN)
2.VW IMM04 Enable more dashboards to auto identify immo type
3.Skoda IMM02 ft IMM03 (Read PIN}
4.Skoda IMM04 Enable more dashboards to auto identify immo type
5.BMW CAS CAS1 is available; CAS2/CAS3 [Delete key)
6.BMW FEM/BOC Suport swfl 00002419 071 010 040.swfl 00002419 080 010 010
software version
7.Toyota: Optimize menu [Select from vehicle)
6.dodge/Chrytler/JEEP ft Honda.
9 Hyundoi/Kle Optimize [Read 46 chip PIN) and [Read PIN code{46 smart
card)), support obtaining PIN via LKE decoding
10.BVD [General working key) .support generating SK via LKE to obtain PIN.
11.Porsche Optimize key programming procedure For Boxter(2005 2011)/Coy-
man(200S 2011)/997(2005-2010)/911(200S 2010).support bypass programming
with LKE
LKE emulator Main Function
1.Features of Toyota/Lexus smart key all lost(5 emulators-in-1)
Dismantle-free
No need networking
Localized computing
2.Generate chip
LKE can be used to work as an emergency key to program when no dedicated
chip.
3-Copy chip
By collecting data to decode and copy chip, LKE currently supports some 46 and 4D chtp copy
4.Simulate and convert chip
Use [Generate chip] to make various chips, part of 40/46 and SKE Toyota currently supported
5.Decode chip
Decode 46 and 4D chips to obtain SK.
6.identify ignition coil and key chip type(al) key lost)
7.As K518 helper:
Achieve programming key without PIN for Hyundai and Kia.
Achieve programming key without PIN for BYD
Achieve programming key without PIN for Porsche Cayman(2005-2010) and boxster
alfons37
16th March, 2019, 06:46 PM
Anyone test programming new smart key Ford kuga 2012 europe car?, i try but no communication :(
Thanks
super jumbe
16th March, 2019, 08:44 PM
Anyone test programming new smart key Ford kuga 2012 europe car?, i try but no communication :(
Thanks
I haven’t tested personally but most Chinese tools useless on ford cars!!!
alunecosu
17th March, 2019, 07:33 AM
Hi wath is the clock? on this video and someone tested add key clio 4?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MHGHZuYGY8
RG550
17th March, 2019, 10:41 AM
Hi wath is the clock? on this video and someone tested add key clio 4?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MHGHZuYGY8
Maybe subscription period, for paid functions :)
paulsta
17th March, 2019, 11:26 AM
Hi wath is the clock? on this video and someone tested add key clio 4?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MHGHZuYGY8It's the trial, paid for functions have this clock
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alunecosu
17th March, 2019, 03:12 PM
I think not good for lonsdor I paid lonsdor k518ise last month with 1100e from here https://www.eobdtool.co.uk/wholesale/lonsdor-k518ise-key-programmer.html
KALSEV
18th March, 2019, 02:30 PM
I had the same proble before some moths. My friend told me to try on Ford Edge or Focus.
super jumbe
19th March, 2019, 10:25 AM
Any one got instruction programming new spare remote key to Lexus CT 200H Hybride 2015 with lonsdor any help.
lem2
19th March, 2019, 12:43 PM
A new remote for the Fiat Fiorino 2018 Delphi BSI has been added - successful.
PocketHero
19th March, 2019, 02:18 PM
On this weekend you can meet the Lonsdor guys in the MLA exhibition in Llodz. They have their own stand, so don't hesitate, Tell 'em your point of view
mobilek
19th March, 2019, 07:12 PM
Peugeot Expert 2017 EU
Read Pin (type 1) -> OK
Add Key (system 3) -> OK
kluczbum
19th March, 2019, 11:04 PM
what was the key
pcf7941 / 61 or maybe hitag AES
mobilek
20th March, 2019, 09:28 AM
hitag AES :)
gieteknysa
20th March, 2019, 09:48 AM
Dodge Ram 1500 2018y program smart key OK
I have a pin and gateway bypass...
gieteknysa
21st March, 2019, 07:26 AM
Somebody do via Lonsdor proximity spare key for FORD explorer 2014y ? (keyles)
hipolitogt
21st March, 2019, 07:30 AM
Anyone programmed Laguna 3 card successfully?
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crazylou2017
21st March, 2019, 09:52 AM
Any one got instruction programming new spare remote key to Lexus CT 200H Hybride 2015 with lonsdor any help.
If it is the common key, the programming method depends on the chip type, what kind of key you have?
crazylou2017
21st March, 2019, 09:58 AM
Hi
Can someone please explain me what's the difference between K518ISE and K518S?
Price is $450 difference? Something else other than that?
Thanks
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Here is a image telling their relationship.
HeXeN
21st March, 2019, 04:30 PM
If someobody will be there, tell them we want to know descriptions of all updates what is requently added to this toy
Every updates is same thing: Updating 32items
drugowaz
21st March, 2019, 07:39 PM
Its not updates! Its just optimising editing old ones
hipolitogt
21st March, 2019, 08:36 PM
Anyone programmed Laguna 3 card successfully?
Enviado desde mi MI 9 mediante TapatalkCan't do it... I think BCM encrypted. But tango and fvdi couldn't do it too...
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Ecuprog31
21st March, 2019, 10:03 PM
Peugeot 807 2008 AKL fail to read pin JC EVO / ioterminal ok
Smart Fortwo 451 2009 AKL OK
Smart Fortwo 450 AKL lost Fail / FVDI OK
Ford Fiesta 2006 ADD KEY FAIL
Audi A5 and A4 2008 add Smart key ok
Seat altea immo 3 add key ok
m35i
21st March, 2019, 11:30 PM
[QUOTE=comizelu;3527644]Hi
Can someone please explain me what's the difference between K518ISE and K518S?
Price is $450 difference? Something else other than that?
Thanks
With the new model k518s you don't have the paid functions available, not even free trial (for 3 or 6 months),
But you can purchase the paid function FOREVER for 3000euros, whereas in k518ise you can't purchase these paid functions forever, the only way to use them (with k518ise) is by paying 600 euros every year, plus in k518ise you get 3 months free trial for every paid function update, in k518s you don't get free 3 months trial for updates that are paid function.
Mate , just in case I do buy the ise and the first year subscription all the updates during this year i will be able to use it but my question its if i decide to dont pay the second year do i will loose the updates i had from the first year too or i will be able for use it for life even if i dont pay the subscription the next years ?
hipolitogt
21st March, 2019, 11:42 PM
[QUOTE=kostat;3527884]
Mate , just in case I do buy the ise and the first year subscription all the updates during this year i will be able to use it but my question its if i decide to dont pay the second year do i will loose the updates i had from the first year too or i will be able for use it for life even if i dont pay the subscription the next years ?You will loose the "clock functions" that need payment. For example: Renault Megane III is paid function. If you don't pay, you don't have this function. If you don't pay every year you have to pay an extra cost for updating it.
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taxo1965
22nd March, 2019, 11:23 AM
Astra J 2012 EU ADD key ok.Read pin ok
used remote key(pcf7941) VVDIProg reset ok
HeXeN
22nd March, 2019, 01:53 PM
Mitsubishi Colt 2008 FAIL
PocketHero
23rd March, 2019, 10:01 PM
Today I had a "nice" chit-chat with the Lonsdor peoples, and they said that the "free for lifetime" part was meant only for the basic content, what was installed in factory. That means nearly nothing, because it was unusable until the 2018 january update.
Couldn't get a writen statement what Will happen with the 518, just their lame speech abut the 600 bucks and áll that known trash.
They couldn't Tell me the price for the New Tool (KD X2 like toy), and they won't sell i:;t. Didn't got answer for my question "how can I be sure that you won't charge me for updates later for this tool too"...
Nice looking bullsh!t, but the concurent products are better at the moment.
If somebody wants to send an e-mail to the sales manager:
janezahn@lonsdor.com
At least I don't know what Will happen with my ISE...
PocketHero
25th March, 2019, 11:53 PM
The New toy. I really can't Tell anything about it. Looks good, but had no possibility for reál test606876606877
looking77
26th March, 2019, 09:16 AM
Audi A5 3.0 TDI 2009r. add key - OK
HeXeN
26th March, 2019, 09:44 AM
I tell you dont need this new toys from lonsdor. Better stick with KDX2.
PocketHero
26th March, 2019, 10:41 AM
They are cheap enough to get all of 'em just to make profit from better coverage or faster working.
Yes, I have the X2 and the VVDI revolver too, but just tó be sure...
gieteknysa
27th March, 2019, 12:42 PM
Seat altea 2013 NEC+C64 Add key OK
kumbari
27th March, 2019, 01:23 PM
Nissan Murano 2010 = Add proxy key = OK
VW JEtta 2011 immo 4 24c64 = OK
hipolitogt
27th March, 2019, 02:00 PM
Lonsdor yesterday failed to program mini r56 2012 cas3++ istap version. After downgrade it with the properly menu. Went to program key and lonsdor keep saying cas need update. Fail fail fail. And cas now is faulty and car doesn't start. Tried to update cas with original BMW istap and at the end gave error. This never happened to me before. Last time I had this problem just updated cas with istap and cas became alive. How to fix now? I know how to fix it, problem is LONSDOR IS NOT DOING UPDATES PROPERLY.
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p1et
27th March, 2019, 02:10 PM
@hipolitogt this is your experience or copy & paste from facebook group?
hipolitogt
27th March, 2019, 02:24 PM
@hipolitogt this is your experience or copy & paste from facebook group?My experience.
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comizelu
28th March, 2019, 01:41 PM
Hi
Fiat Ducato 2008 akl?any chance to program a key with lonsdor? thanks
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super jumbe
28th March, 2019, 05:54 PM
Notice to all.
Yaris from 2006 to 2011 all keys lost not working after last update, any one got email to remind them.
looking77
29th March, 2019, 11:19 AM
Citroen C4 Picasso 2010r. - read pin and add key - OK
Hyundai i10 1.0 2015r. - read pin and add key - OK
kluczbum
29th March, 2019, 06:14 PM
Kia sportage 2012
Add key / remote ok
Mitsubishi Asx 2012
Add key fail/ remote ok
Suzuki S Cross 2016
Add key ok (must use oryginal key, chine not work)
Ford focus 2017 (USA)
Add key ok
leson
31st March, 2019, 07:21 AM
2018 ford ranger wildtrak Add key fail
looking77
5th April, 2019, 07:35 AM
Renault Megane IV Yes or Not ? http://blog.obdexpress.co.uk/2018/09/19/lonsdor-k518ise-programs-new-keys-to-renault-megane-2-3-4-confirmed/
HeXeN
5th April, 2019, 08:54 AM
Which menu for: Ford Escape Titanium 2016 proximity pcf7953 ?
R2D2R2
5th April, 2019, 06:28 PM
Renault Megane IV Yes or Not ? http://blog.obdexpress.co.uk/2018/09/19/lonsdor-k518ise-programs-new-keys-to-renault-megane-2-3-4-confirmed/
Yes , only for full version , 4500€ ( tool + lifetime update )
Yes lonsdor is 1000€ most expensive than zedfull , and no token neded thi$ year ....
looking77
5th April, 2019, 09:06 PM
Yes , only for full version .
Are You sure?
kostat
6th April, 2019, 07:19 AM
Citroen c3 2008 CAN akl pin failed, program key ok
Renault clio3 akl OK under 20 seconds
citroen c4 lost key OK
rojhat
6th April, 2019, 12:24 PM
hi all .
have little problem .with cas 2 when add dealer key with remote or key .
new key change on e60 km to miles and today remote on e91 change language french to german just with this added Key ori key no problem .
br
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super jumbe
6th April, 2019, 01:00 PM
Are You sure?
This could be in futhure still on trial been told...
p1et
6th April, 2019, 05:25 PM
Mazda CX-9 2014 proxy twist knob: proxy programming OK, transponder programming apparently FAIL but it's working.
rojhat
6th April, 2019, 09:06 PM
hi all .
have little problem .with cas 2 when add dealer key with remote or key .
new key change on e60 km to miles and today remote on e91 change language french to german just with this added Key ori key no problem .
br
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sorry insnt for this tool :)
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comizelu
6th April, 2019, 09:31 PM
Peugeot 407 2005 failed with reading pin.
Tried all options.
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hipolitogt
6th April, 2019, 10:31 PM
Peugeot 407 2005 failed with reading pin.
Tried all options.
Sent from my MI MAX 3 using Tapatalk407 all fail to read pin. Is not Kline nor canbus, is a kind of mix.
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comizelu
6th April, 2019, 10:34 PM
407 all fail to read pin. Is not Kline nor canbus, is a kind of mix.
Enviado desde mi MI 9 mediante TapatalkYeah.. tried with vvdi2 and smok.same..
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lem2
7th April, 2019, 08:06 AM
Nissan Qashqai 2016 add smart key OK
Ecuprog31
7th April, 2019, 09:57 AM
Anyone try to add keyless on Range Rover evoque 2015?
comizelu
7th April, 2019, 09:32 PM
2008 Civic programmed ok under immo2
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kostas
8th April, 2019, 04:41 AM
Hyundai i20 2018 read pin code OK
Program remote and key Ok
sdnatlst
9th April, 2019, 08:11 PM
now under Renault > Trafic > 4a (2014-) > there is 2 menu
System 1 > has pin immo data read/program key
System 2 > has key program
why is there now 2 under here? would system 2 "bypass" the need for pin like some other renaults do you think?
I get asked for many of these but dont want to write immo data to obtain pin, too scary.
ghostrider72
9th April, 2019, 08:32 PM
Yeah.. tried with vvdi2 and smok.same..
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comizelu
9th April, 2019, 09:43 PM
Did 407 just this morning with smok. Works fineStrange..mine was 95128
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ghostrider72
9th April, 2019, 09:52 PM
My one was 2006 if that makes a difference
comizelu
9th April, 2019, 09:54 PM
My one was 2006 if that makes a difference2005 was mine.
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super jumbe
10th April, 2019, 12:36 AM
Peugeot 407 2005 failed with reading pin.
Tried all options.
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Was this just add keys or all keys lost?
whiskeyman
10th April, 2019, 02:02 AM
now under Renault > Trafic > 4a (2014-) > there is 2 menu
System 1 > has pin immo data read/program key
System 2 > has key program
why is there now 2 under here? would system 2 "bypass" the need for pin like some other renaults do you think?
I get asked for many of these but dont want to write immo data to obtain pin, too scary.
have you tested this yet
anyone done spares on these
comizelu
10th April, 2019, 07:07 AM
Was this just add keys or all keys lost?Spare key job
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sdnatlst
10th April, 2019, 05:04 PM
renault primastar 2004 - program key all went OK, but after finished the key would not start van, or work with central locking.
2x keys tested, both from AUTOWAVE company. keys were LOCKED after programming.
programmed under renault trafic first, then renault master second key used.
maybe it was faulty keys, i don't know, autowave keys are usually good. anyway i am sending them back and using another source.
jodge
10th April, 2019, 05:10 PM
????. Check the ISK and open the keys
sdnatlst
10th April, 2019, 05:15 PM
What do you mean? dont understand.
jodge
10th April, 2019, 06:41 PM
ISK (Crypto low, Crypto high) = is the 6 byte in HITAG2 which close the pcf (like a password) if you have cloning stuff you can see the ISK after key decoding, like Handy or something or some tools are informing you like renault ECu tool. Whatever, you got the ISK
Take your transponder programmer and enter the isk. Put the locked key to the programmer, it depends the prommer there is a different ways but you can always unlock renault hitag2 keys or cards(7946, 7947) if you have the ISK.
And yes even the EFFI able to do it, my miraclone have a dedicated button..etc.
When i programming renault i always writing down the ISK. If the key is broken/defected/something i can start over after unlock
kleidaras
10th April, 2019, 06:53 PM
ISK (Crypto low, Crypto high) = is the 6 byte in HITAG2 which close the pcf (like a password) if you have cloning stuff you can see the ISK after key decoding, like Handy or something or some tools are informing you like renault ECu tool. Whatever, you got the ISK
Take your transponder programmer and enter the isk. Put the locked key to the programmer, it depends the prommer there is a different ways but you can always unlock renault hitag2 keys or cards(7946, 7947) if you have the ISK.
And yes even the EFFI able to do it, my miraclone have a dedicated button..etc.
When i programming renault i always writing down the ISK. If the key is broken/defected/something i can start over after unlockAlso the only key you can't unlock if you know isk is the new Renault card for megane 2. If order by official dealer card come locked with Vin you order and can't unlock with any way
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turboracing
10th April, 2019, 08:27 PM
problem is program procedure lonsdor left car in programming mode
sdnatlst
10th April, 2019, 08:48 PM
turbo i thought the same actually, however i done lots of vivaro and renault trafic of same years with same keys on lonsdor before
and original key central locking no longer worked UNLESS it was used to start the van once, then it started to work again. like you say, i think it wasnt closing programming properly.
maybe nissan slightly different somehow?? not sure.
p1et
10th April, 2019, 09:16 PM
I programmed Primastar with Lonsdor last saturday, all good.
turboracing
12th April, 2019, 08:57 AM
most nissan works but some off the first bcms is diff in some ways just use pin or try other tool even orignal avdi some times struggel on the first ones
kostat
12th April, 2019, 09:08 AM
Mitsubishi colt canbus FAIL
smart 450 FAIL
smart 451 FAIL x2
In smart lonsdor was saying key programmed but never worked
sdnatlst
12th April, 2019, 04:36 PM
Same fault today with 2008 vivaro.
I don't this customer last week now he wanted second key.
Londsor locked key but doesn't start or work remote.
Think my paid options have now failed maybe I'm over the trial period ?
p1et
12th April, 2019, 06:59 PM
I don't know where is the problem but me and my friend done primastar / vivaro with success. Maybe your keys are faulty but 2 in a row? Wouldn't think so :/ Anyway I use original used ones of course preparing them before by changing new pcf and precoding.
ghostrider72
12th April, 2019, 07:26 PM
Mitsubishi colt canbus FAIL
smart 450 FAIL
smart 451 FAIL x2
In smart lonsdor was saying key programmed but never worked
Did you disconnected battery after programming?
sdnatlst
12th April, 2019, 07:27 PM
I don't know where is the problem but me and my friend done primastar / vivaro with success. Maybe your keys are faulty but 2 in a row? Wouldn't think so :/ Anyway I use original used ones of course preparing them before by changing new pcf and precoding.
Hi. I done this vivaro last week already 1 key. Worked fine.
I think since I done update the lonsdor don't work on any renault or vivaro etc now. Keys are fine as same supplier worked last week.
Strange !
Ecuprog31
12th April, 2019, 10:08 PM
Mitsubishi colt canbus FAIL
smart 450 FAIL
smart 451 FAIL x2
In smart lonsdor was saying key programmed but never worked
I did one 451 and worked fine
450 didn’t work
super jumbe
12th April, 2019, 11:26 PM
renault primastar 2004 - program key all went OK, but after finished the key would not start van, or work with central locking.
2x keys tested, both from AUTOWAVE company. keys were LOCKED after programming.
programmed under renault trafic first, then renault master second key used.
maybe it was faulty keys, i don't know, autowave keys are usually good. anyway i am sending them back and using another source.
On Primastar, Vivaro, Traffic vans you need to precode the remote to work every time.
kostat
13th April, 2019, 07:12 AM
Did you disconnected battery after programming?
Yes i did my friend, but nothing
I programed it with zedfull then, all ok
PocketHero
13th April, 2019, 09:50 PM
2008 Seat Ibiza: get pin ok, add key fail. Even with precoded key, even with precoded and CS added key. Made with FVDI
2008 Golf V: get pin fail, add key fail. Made on bench with Tango.
kostas
14th April, 2019, 03:30 AM
Ford transit 2009 program blue key ok very fast
Ford ranger 2017 faild program with smart pro ok
sdnatlst
14th April, 2019, 05:33 PM
On Primastar, Vivaro, Traffic vans you need to precode the remote to work every time.
Sorry i buy the keys ready to code, i used MVP pro and it worked perfect.
My lonsdor has had an update on 10-04-19 and it has made VIVARO, PRIMASTAR, TRAFIC etc system not work. It locks the key but does not start the car, or remote not work either. MVP pro finished in few minutes fine. Waiting for lonsdor to update again and hope it fixes this system. It is a PAID function, so maybe my free trial run out and it not finishing program sequence, not sure
rola1971
15th April, 2019, 09:06 AM
new trafic 2016 year spare key
read flash , pin code OK
add key OK
all work tested
monstermurga
15th April, 2019, 12:48 PM
So now a days which would be better option londsor k518 vs Xtool Pad 2 Full ??
jodge
15th April, 2019, 04:15 PM
Alfa 159, brera, spider ? anybody tested ?
did you tested it?
weza247
16th April, 2019, 11:00 AM
just my minor input
hyundai i10 1b remote !
avdi fail
sbb2 fail
x100 fail
skp900 fail
lonsdor OK!
Had a F30 2013 VVDI2 Fail to do fem
lonsdor work ok cant remember software version.
HeXeN
16th April, 2019, 12:54 PM
did you tested it?
Not yet because Alfa owners are penny-pincher.
But it for sure works because Fiat work ok.
taxo1965
16th April, 2019, 02:49 PM
Scion ia 2016 smart key comunicftion fail
jodge
16th April, 2019, 06:45 PM
Not yet because Alfa owners are penny-pincher.
But it for sure works because Fiat work ok.
I don't think so :(
i'm really curious bcose as far as i know currently no tool on the market able to correctly precode those Alfa keys and Fiat Panda, Croma (remote part ofc)
p1et
16th April, 2019, 08:39 PM
I don't think so :(
i'm really curious bcose as far as i know currently no tool on the market able to correctly precode those Alfa keys and Fiat Panda, Croma (remote part ofc)
TMpro2 is the only tool which can precode remote for those mentioned.
kluczbum
16th April, 2019, 09:43 PM
"Originally posted by rola1791"
new trafic 2016 year spare key
read flash , pin code OK
add key OK
all work tested
how much time it takes
how long does he read the pin
jodge
16th April, 2019, 10:06 PM
TMpro2 is the only tool which can precode remote for those mentioned.
i forgot the tmpro :(
do you know something about the panda? Idon't find in a support list
super jumbe
17th April, 2019, 06:20 AM
Got an ultimatum if I don’t pay yearly subscription in the next 3 days I will not able to use pay modules, they don’t tell you who to contact and how much is the yearly subscription, you get this message when you switch on the tool, any one got lonsdor contact details…..
honda1200
17th April, 2019, 06:53 AM
Try here i see they sale subs for lonsdor! I've ordered vvdi software activations in the past they are usually fast.
https://www.mk3.com/lonsdor
taxo1965
17th April, 2019, 07:32 AM
Got an ultimatum if I don’t pay yearly subscription in the next 3 days I will not able to use pay modules, they don’t tell you who to contact and how much is the yearly subscription, you get this message when you switch on the tool, any one got lonsdor contact details…..
Yes, I have the same 3 days left
super jumbe
17th April, 2019, 10:10 AM
Yes, I have the same 3 days left
The amount of subscriptions is more then AVDI and I will never pay that amount of money for most modules never worked, I have decided to buy full package of truecode with no yearly payments for life and I have got vvdi2 for BMW and VW when lonsdor is no good for them, I want some one to tell me why we should all pay for some thing not 100% reliable on expensive cars?
taxo1965
17th April, 2019, 11:03 AM
I tried it yesterday with this car did not work
Scion ia 2016 smart key comunicftion fail
in three days she will be paid too
nenadgorgi
17th April, 2019, 12:37 PM
seems like lonsdor rush in following abrites steps
yep and one more toy will retire in the box
sdnatlst
17th April, 2019, 03:38 PM
All of my renault systems are broken on mine since update,
tried a megane 3 button card today which ive done 100's,, it says successful but not programmed afterwards, remote or start
finished job with renault ecu tool.....
i found this problem the other day with nissan primastar, day after vauxhall vivaro.......
hope they update it to fix these soon,, they will probably turn PAID lol
taxo1965
17th April, 2019, 04:38 PM
Scoda 2013 NEC24c64 Fail not programmed
FVDI(china) solved servis mode
paulsta
17th April, 2019, 04:40 PM
I won't be paying for this tool, things still not working...
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rola1971
17th April, 2019, 04:45 PM
for my it is not to bad tools
yes it is not abritus but verry help for my
all tools need pay in year or for updaiting
dont about cheape tools around FVDI
but it doit around 90% ford.Big problem only for transit,but doit all new mondoe smart and standart key
whith tools dont need pay for updait?
super jumbe
18th April, 2019, 08:53 AM
for my it is not to bad tools
yes it is not abritus but verry help for my
all tools need pay in year or for updaiting
dont about cheape tools around FVDI
but it doit around 90% ford.Big problem only for transit,but doit all new mondoe smart and standart key
whith tools dont need pay for updait?
Are you working for lonsdor to say that, go back and check all the modules which were working when first introduced most have stopped working since last few updates, can you guarantee we will not lose more modules after next update….
rola1971
18th April, 2019, 09:58 AM
Are you working for lonsdor to say that, go back and check all the modules which were working when first introduced most have stopped working since last few updates, can you guarantee we will not lose more modules after next update….
after updaiting i doit trafic 2016 addkey work
doit mondeo 2017 smart key work
leaf 2017 add key work
kia optima 2017 smart key (akl)all work
lot nissan smart key work
i dont work for lonsdor but used and happy
yes i dont happy about pay for year 600e but show my what solution?
show my what tools work 100% and dont need pay for updait?
super jumbe
18th April, 2019, 05:05 PM
after updaiting i doit trafic 2016 addkey work
doit mondeo 2017 smart key work
leaf 2017 add key work
kia optima 2017 smart key (akl)all work
lot nissan smart key work
i dont work for lonsdor but used and happy
yes i dont happy about pay for year 600e but show my what solution?
show my what tools work 100% and dont need pay for updait?
You are talking about the tool lonsdor not 100% working it may be working on some cars but overall if you like it or not most modules are not working, you want to know the company who don’t charge subscriptions those company named key programmers Truecode tools the updates are free and no subscriptions and the good news is every thing works 100% you show me any one person ever complained about them, and VVDI2 they never charge subscriptions and 100% works no complaint from customers if I ever need to pay I will definitely willing to pay them and not for tools which are not working during the last 5 years I bought lots of lonsdor tools and I spend thousands but this is the end for me, end of the day its your choose I wish them all the luck in future. http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/hmmmm.gif
rola1971
18th April, 2019, 07:58 PM
yes i know about truecode is good but again lot of money and dont doit new renault
vvdi2 is good but it put FEM and need pay for this(i pay 600usd),to same copy id48 need pay extra
but i speek about next tools to same AVDI big money but if put new model again need pay
to same smok or carprog all time for new models need pay.MVP charge tokens and you dont know doit or no.
no tools cheaper and for free.
yes lonsdor not to 100% good and i verry dont happy if need pay 600e in year but for my it help same time
jodge
18th April, 2019, 09:28 PM
You are talking about the tool lonsdor not 100% working it may be working on some cars but overall if you like it or not most modules are not working, you want to know the company who don’t charge subscriptions those company named key programmers Truecode tools the updates are free and no subscriptions and the good news is every thing works 100% you show me any one person ever complained about them, and VVDI2 they never charge subscriptions and 100% works no complaint from customers if I ever need to pay I will definitely willing to pay them and not for tools which are not working during the last 5 years I bought lots of lonsdor tools and I spend thousands but this is the end for me, end of the day its your choose I wish them all the luck in future. http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/hmmmm.gif
I'd like to hear your opinion
There is no perfect tool. That's a fact. On the EU market you have this choices:
Obdstar = ripoff
Avdi = something went wrong in the last year, i guess is a management problem, currently is almost ripoff (bcose the customer care, ams, bugs, online stuff)
Zedfull = tokens, fees...etc expensive but the inner side of ripoff and at least working
Lonsdor = 600 bucks is acceptable but the policy changing and the threats are not. For me same like Zedfull. Yet.
TDB = expensive and unsustainable on long term without tokens or yearly fee. And bugs... chit-chat w/o real support
Autel = hard to choose bcose the recent HW changing for me seems like obdstar.
Truecode = great tool but with very-very slow developing..It's a one man show...
It's like an election, no perfect choice only bad and worse. You have to choose the less sh.it tool and company. :)
your turn :)
super jumbe
19th April, 2019, 11:34 AM
My objection was if its not perfect you don’t ask to pay subscription, I personally never had an issue with obdstar X100 tool and obdstar other tools don’t work they never ask for subscription, look end of the day its your choose your money.
Ecuprog31
19th April, 2019, 11:02 PM
My Delphi DS150 Bluetooth Is powerful than lonsdor :rock:
PocketHero
20th April, 2019, 09:09 AM
My Delphi DS150 Bluetooth Is powerful than lonsdor :rock:And what is IT good for?
Doing roadside work in akl situations for so much cars As the 518 does?
Ecuprog31
20th April, 2019, 11:32 PM
And what is IT good for?
Doing roadside work in akl situations for so much cars As the 518 does?
I’m joking
today Peugeot bipper read pin ok with one working key bsi Delphi ( fiat systèm) by fiat punto
ioterminal fail and fvdi fail
jodge
21st April, 2019, 08:20 PM
My objection was if its not perfect you don’t ask to pay subscription, I personally never had an issue with obdstar X100 tool and obdstar other tools don’t work they never ask for subscription, look end of the day its your choose your money.
In the software developing business not exist the "perfect release" just revision control :)
In normal case there is a testing team working on the project too. If not..well you get a crap. Our case is special bcose impossible to find and test every kind of car with every kind of sw version. The majority of the teams are not testing at all or just a bare minium. Ohh if we lucky perhaps with some reliable buddies. Thats the main reason why we working with crap tools and the infuriating part is they don't care about the user feedbacks like AVDI or here my favorite buddy SMP7 from obdstar :D
But it would be easy just a simple logging system and some rewards like points or tokens to users who helping them improving their program. It's a well know and working system they just don't care. The real support, customer care is non-exist in this business.
I know very well it's a hard job but i'd happy to pay at least 1000€/year subscription fee to any company for a wide range support list like mvp/zedfull...etc and a prompt customer service.
Like in this dream :D
The user is a registered and accepted beta tester not some random guy
- Hello this key learning function not working
- Are you using this kind of key
- yes factory original
- your customer can wait a few days?
- yes
- pls swith on the data logging repeat the process and connect the tool to your computer and upload the log we will contact you.
...
..
.
after 3 days
- We found something pls connect your device to your computer update, after you finished navigate to the beta menu and repeat the process
...
..
.
- great all done, the bug is fixed in the next release.
- or not working and i can convice my customer to wait a little
something like that :) But it's just a dream :D
super jumbe
22nd April, 2019, 10:06 AM
The only thing put me off with this tool was when it came out first time most modules were 80% working like yaris all keys lost was working after update it stopped working, insignia module not working, Renault cards programming not working and I stopped using because I was spending more time when the tool was not working, they kept updating new cars when old cars modules stopped working and now they want 600 very good idea they will get rich very quick!!!!http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/roflmao.gif
datapage
22nd April, 2019, 09:06 PM
This reminds me of TM100
hipolitogt
22nd April, 2019, 11:00 PM
Somebody already paid for subscription?
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Dave1985
23rd April, 2019, 04:40 AM
i am very confuse on K518 basic,K518S and life time update version.The dealer give the price of them,but can not explain the price policy clear.
K1nd3r
27th April, 2019, 07:51 AM
astra g pin reading not working
kluczbum
27th April, 2019, 11:07 AM
I tried to add a key to Renault Trafic 2015
read pin code faild
programm key faild (system 1 and system 2)
kumbari
27th April, 2019, 12:27 PM
Lonsdor yesterday failed to program mini r56 2012 cas3++ istap version. After downgrade it with the properly menu. Went to program key and lonsdor keep saying cas need update. Fail fail fail. And cas now is faulty and car doesn't start. Tried to update cas with original BMW istap and at the end gave error. This never happened to me before. Last time I had this problem just updated cas with istap and cas became alive. How to fix now? I know how to fix it, problem is LONSDOR IS NOT DOING UPDATES PROPERLY.
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You should SOlve the problem with CGDI BMW. I have test programming cas3 cas3+ dme and no problem at all.
sdnatlst
27th April, 2019, 05:21 PM
SO FIRST Renault master stopped working, months ago,, new blue function PAID appeared just called "MASTER." and it works...
MEGANE 2002-2008 3 button card function works fine since i bought it, now it stopped after update...and appears a blue paid function "MEGANE CC -2008"
eventually all functions will stop working and will be replaced by paid functions,, so i am not updating my device anymore now and will keep it to use as ford/bmw cas3/peugeot etc basic tool
Big shame, i would of purchased for 600$ to use paid functions if they wasn't scamming so many of the basic functions from me.
paulsta
27th April, 2019, 05:25 PM
I agree, I won't be paying anymore for this tool
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sdnatlst
27th April, 2019, 06:47 PM
I will urge anyone who has this Lonsdor, and is not going to be paying subscription. DO NOT UPDATE THIS DEVICE.
You will receive NO FIXES, NO NEW FEATURES,,, you will receive - working features being BROKEN.
DO NOT UPDATE THIS unless you are planning to subscribe
i will be telling everyone about this.... if Lonsdor team see this,, fix the features i had when i purchased the device,,, thats all.
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