IS this a racist remark

[Grizz]

just my two cents mate but it seems to me the black guy brought up skin colour(tan) after they had issues before and the white guy is a bit racist. maybe you should tell the two of them meet at the back of the playground after school, or else tell 'em to grow up......

...then again maybe they are just 2 men that dont like each other, happens all the time, best stay out of each others way if possible.

[cablefreejunkie]

no i dont think its racist. this world is pc gone bloody mad.

i dont regard saying paki as being racist as its short for pakistan the same way scots is short for scottish and aussie short for australian.

i dont get offended if people call me wee Lainie and neither does my boyfriend get offended being called big davie.

i wish things like that was all i had to worry about.

tell them to get a life.

i think you are being one of two things here if not both and as i dont know you then i have to assume its both,,, naive and ignorant on your part to even think that the word "paki" is not a racist remark,,wee lainie and big davie are hardly comments said to provoke a reaction,i work with scottish folk and they call me wee ++++ they call oth er people big ++++ its part of the language they use,paki is a term that is used to undermine or hurt someone of pakistani origin,,its not part of the language you would generally use when talking to somebody of pakistani origin,,thats the trouble these days too many ingnorant racist people about who think the above is ok,makes me sick,,i have to listen to this type of shite daily its not nice and i cant imagine what it feels like top be on the receiving end,,,,again saying to someone im going for a chinky,,you think thats ok,,im dumfounded that you really think its ok to refer to a chinesse person as a chinky
its got absolutely nothing to do with being politically correct its about being a decent humanbeing and seeing the next person for who they are and not what they look like or where they come from or the colour of there skin
im dissappointed

[nara]

i think you are being one of two things here if not both and as i dont know you then i have to assume its both,,, naive and ignorant on your part to even think that the word "paki" is not a racist remark,,wee lainie and big davie are hardly comments said to provoke a reaction,i work with scottish folk and they call me wee ++++ they call oth er people big ++++ its part of the language they use,paki is a term that is used to undermine or hurt someone of pakistani origin,,its not part of the language you would generally use when talking to somebody of pakistani origin,,thats the trouble these days too many ingnorant racist people about who think the above is ok,makes me sick,,i have to listen to this type of shite daily its not nice and i cant imagine what it feels like top be on the receiving end,,,,again saying to someone im going for a chinky,,you think thats ok,,im dumfounded that you really think its ok to refer to a chinesse person as a chinky
its got absolutely nothing to do with being politically correct its about being a decent humanbeing and seeing the next person for who they are and not what they look like or where they come from or the colour of there skin
im dissappointed

Nail on head.

[aftermath]

depends on where you live and the language the locals use i suppose.

when i want a takeaway i use the term " Chinkeys " or " Indians " or " Italians " its just the language we use up here and not in any way trying to abuse another race.

[gmb45]

hmmmmm funny this, i see the term "paki" as insulting, yet i dont see "chinkey as insulting", yet i see calling italians "itals" as insulting, calling west indians, rastas etc "black" not insulting, so would you see calling indians ( bows and arrows ) "red skins" as insulting ?

[Bulld0g]

A lot of what's deemed offensive has been determined by the pc brigade. Words that were acceptable some years ago are no longer acceptable now, yet others are.

[gmb45]

A lot of what's deemed offensive has been determined by the pc brigade. Words that were acceptable some years ago are no longer acceptable now, yet others are.

ah yeh the pc brigade tis them coonts who are causing a lot of the problems nowdays

[maca]

its only offensive if people want to take offense to it i got a few m8s who dont give a flying ~~~~ what you say to them as long as its not in an offensive way. ffs im confused now

[mtv1]

ye where do we draw the line i'm a paddy and proud , in Ireland i'm a coultchi or red neck some folk would take offence but ffs we are all the same here lets get a grip ,

[dctyper]

Good evening guy's I have a question for you, A freind of mine who is black was talking to a work mate who is white. The white worker was going to spain for a holiday, The black mate remarked so you will be nice and tanned when you get back, The white mate replied in a agressive way and pointed to his face and said no i don't think so i am white (THESE TWO PEOPLE ARE NOT MATES ONLY COLLEAGES) Who have a history between them. So is there anyway the black mate could complain about the white mate making a racist comment in the work place.

nothing raceist there matey

[badapple]

If you beleave these words & behaviour of this nature are not offensive, the please explain " what is wrong with throwing bananas at a BLACK player at a football match???

So in my defence I could say "well hes BLACK, come from AFRICA, looks like a MONKEY,Monkeys eat bananas so I am justified in throwing bananas at him."

The simple fact is, these kind of words & behaviour are simply NOT acceptable in this day & age.

And this tread has gone astray from what was originally asked by OP.(sorry about that)

[barrowmanandrew]

to be honest....

the last ten posts are nonsense...

the words themselves are not racists or abusive....

they only become racist or abusive in the context they are used in.....

i am scotiish and rangers fan...

i have been called jock, scotty ,skirt wearing b****d, hun, orange ********...
and took no offence...

i think the issue here is the context.....
if it is put in an offence way, then offensive....
if not, then not.....

just my tuppence worth...

posted by barrowmanandrew,
the dirty skirt wearing, hun, orange bsterd..

[cablefreejunkie]

to be honest....

the last ten posts are nonsense...

the words themselves are not racists or abusive....

they only become racist or abusive in the context they are used in.....

i am scotiish and rangers fan...

i have been called jock, scotty ,skirt wearing b****d, hun, orange ********...
and took no offence...

i think the issue here is the context.....
if it is put in an offence way, then offensive....
if not, then not.....

just my tuppence worth...

posted by barrowmanandrew,
the dirty skirt wearing, hun, orange bsterd..

dosent matter what fan you are,fans of different clubs etc being taunted at by using different abusive remarks hardly constitutes being racist,unless aimed at someone who isnt white skinned
the trouble is that most people are completely ignorant to the fact they are being racist,whether they mean it or not and simply lay the blame at political correctness,and you have just slid straight into that bracket by the above comment
anyway this is going off topic so i should stop now

[mattybhoy]

to be honest....

the last ten posts are nonsense...

the words themselves are not racists or abusive....

they only become racist or abusive in the context they are used in.....

i am scotiish and rangers fan...

i have been called jock, scotty ,skirt wearing b****d, hun, orange ********...
and took no offence...

i think the issue here is the context.....
if it is put in an offence way, then offensive....
if not, then not.....

just my tuppence worth...

posted by barrowmanandrew,
the dirty skirt wearing, hun, orange bsterd..

Again I'm going off topic here, so I apologise for that..

But some of the terms like Hun and Orange B****** I know to be offensive to many, there are many a rangers fan or protestant that would take offence to them in Scotland and Northern Ireland particularly.

Like Cablefree said. All this "it's the pc's lot fault" is utter sh*te. It's 2011 for ~~~~ sake, if certain terms insult a race, religon or culture don't use them. Even if some are not offended, you run the risk of offending others.

Some of the post on this thread that have questioned certain terms as not being racist is just beyond me...

'Oh I remember when we could call blacks Niggers, Sambos and Wogs..and call people that wern't so black Pakis... oh the good old days before the tw*ts that are the 'PC Brigade' went and put a stop to it!!'....... Please..........

[wfhr]

Thank you to everybody who has commented on this post. it's been intresting to have a views from people not so closely involved in the situation.
p.s Mind how you go and be carefull of what you say.....