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  • zee24
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 3342

    #4801
    Originally posted by Bulld0g
    OK let me spell it out for you as you seem to have difficulty digesting this part


    Many United fans are being self-righteous, despite defending Peter Schmeichel in his spats with Ian Wright, when the Arsenal man alleged he was racially abused. They sing about their South Korean midfielder eating dogs, and sang about Rafa Ben?tez as our fat Spanish waiter Some sing vile songs about Hillsborough, and mock the dead. This is no high horse to proudly sit atop.
    They were also singing "You Scouse B*****d" at Torres early on in the season when hes Spanish as for Rooney on other hands




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    • redtide11
      Banned
      • Dec 2011
      • 197

      #4802
      Originally posted by Bulld0g
      It really is lost on you mind you dont fall it's a long way down from that saddle your sitting on.


      Speaking of lost you don't even seem to realize this is not a rivalry issue. Your maybe seeing people high in the saddle but with your head buried so deep in the sand that comes as no surprises

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      • Bulld0g
        V.I.P. Member
        • Apr 2008
        • 7158

        #4803
        Took you long enough to think of that as i said before watch you don't fall it's a long way down. You know i'm right.

        THE TRUTH
        The Hillsborough Independent Panel. 12/09/12

        Today's report is black and white.The Liverpool fans were not the cause of the disaster.
        The panel has quite simply found 'no evidence' in support of allegations of 'exceptional levels of drunkenness, ticketlessness or violence among Liverpool fans' and 'no evidence that fans had conspired to arrive late at the stadium' and 'no evidence that they stole from the dead and dying'.

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        • redtide11
          Banned
          • Dec 2011
          • 197

          #4804
          Actually just read it in full and since you have offered nothingness except for laughable chicken impressions and horses oh and some plaguerized works from a bigoted scouse fanatic then my stance remains.
          Nothing has anyone said to argue a case in defense simply point the finger elsewhere and bury the head.
          The worry is not me knowing your right but you actually believing it

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          • Bulld0g
            V.I.P. Member
            • Apr 2008
            • 7158

            #4805
            Originally posted by redtide11
            Actually just read it in full and since you have offered nothingness except for laughable chicken impressions and horses oh and some plaguerized works from a bigoted scouse fanatic then my stance remains.
            Nothing has anyone said to argue a case in defense simply point the finger elsewhere and bury the head.
            The worry is not me knowing your right but you actually believing it
            Ahh so hours after you commented on the parts you wanted, you have finally read it all First off i never plagerised anything i posted a link then posted an extract from it later, if you had read it you would have seen that.

            My point before i read that article was, he hasn't been charged and we don't know for sure he did make a monkey impression. If he did then he deserves all he gets, i said he could have been doing a chicken impression for all we know i never said he was, but you believe i said he was. You have already found him guilty.

            It's easy to point the finger at others and sit there saying we wouldn't do anything like that. The reality is every club is the same from the top of the League to the bottom. There are a vast majority who are well behaved and then theres the small minority that the media love, the ones who make the news for all the wrong reasons.

            That man may well be guilty and he may equally be innocent, i don't know either way, how could i know by looking at a single photograph and how can you?

            THE TRUTH
            The Hillsborough Independent Panel. 12/09/12

            Today's report is black and white.The Liverpool fans were not the cause of the disaster.
            The panel has quite simply found 'no evidence' in support of allegations of 'exceptional levels of drunkenness, ticketlessness or violence among Liverpool fans' and 'no evidence that fans had conspired to arrive late at the stadium' and 'no evidence that they stole from the dead and dying'.

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            • redtide11
              Banned
              • Dec 2011
              • 197

              #4806
              Originally posted by Bulld0g
              Ahh so hours after you commented on the parts you wanted, you have finally read it all First off i never plagerised anything i posted a link then posted an extract from it later, if you had read it you would have seen that.

              My point before i read that article was, he hasn't been charged and we don't know for sure he did make a monkey impression. If he did then he deserves all he gets, i said he could have been doing a chicken impression for all we know i never said he was, but you believe i said he was. You have already found him guilty.

              It's easy to point the finger at others and sit there saying we wouldn't do anything like that. The reality is every club is the same from the top of the League to the bottom. There are a vast majority who are well behaved and then theres the small minority that the media love, the ones who make the news for all the wrong reasons.

              That man may well be guilty and he may equally be innocent, i don't know either way, how could i know by looking at a single photograph and how can you?


              Actually it was your post I failed to read in full not the article and hence my late comment. Yes I read but it was not quote wrapped and therefore looks like passing off as your own work since forum form is to give credit as due. However this is seemingly mixed ways.
              The article I have read in depth as it intriguing how your opinion is evolved from.
              On reading the guy seems utterly biased and perfectly unbalanced in his thinking. Now I see if your taking in shite like this and making yourself believe it then no doubt others will also but others may not have the sense to see things clearly.

              He as you say may be just impersonating a chicken, I'm ****ing prone to a touch of "foul" play myself but when Im impersonating chickens in the stands I tend to tuck my hands in to give my wings a better profile. I have not found the man guilty I was taking the pi55. Either way my original point stands. Had this been dealt with correctly initially we would not be debating a point we both know belongs in the past.
              Was not I that posted this in the original but if you will post biased links to articles full of factual holes then they may get pulled just like maca thinking his link to paisley being number one would hold water.

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              • zee24
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 3342

                #4807
                Manchester United fans top Premier League of shame for match-day arrests | Manchester Evening News - menmedia.co.uk




                Hillsborough 15th of April 1989
                96
                Never Forgotten
                You'll Never Walk Alone
                JFT96 - !!DONT BUY THE S*N!!

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                • thered
                  V.I.P. Member
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 4915

                  #4808
                  ~~~~in chickens i have heard some bollox in my time


                  anyways lets talk about football 1st half we were much the better team second half i had it about even could of gone either way but to be honest i thought after scholes went off we got poorer

                  which just ~~~~in shows how bad we are when he is our best player after 9 months out

                  de gea what can i say cant understand the manager at all i have been saying since pre season lindegaard is better equipped for english football if de gea is to ever make it he needs beefing up and easing into it

                  too many players are not performing we have a 37 and a 38 year old in midfield ~~~~ the injuries excuse that is what squads are for

                  we need some quality in the middle baddly an enforcer and a playmaker if he has hopes for pogba he should be blooding him especially due to the amount of injuries we have 10 minutes here and there or the odd half if we ar comfortable will bring him on nice.

                  we are as poor a united side as i have seen since the early nineties the only reason we are second is because the full english game is in decline

                  that said i think we will win the league as players come back but i said earlier in the thread when people thought we were going to run away with it in august and beat arsenal 8-2 we were a poor team

                  that just papered the cracks

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                  • zee24
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 3342

                    #4809
                    Originally posted by thered
                    ~~~~in chickens i have heard some bollox in my time


                    anyways lets talk about football 1st half we were much the better team second half i had it about even could of gone either way but to be honest i thought after scholes went off we got poorer

                    which just ~~~~in shows how bad we are when he is our best player after 9 months out

                    de gea what can i say cant understand the manager at all i have been saying since pre season lindegaard is better equipped for english football if de gea is to ever make it he needs beefing up and easing into it

                    too many players are not performing we have a 37 and a 38 year old in midfield ~~~~ the injuries excuse that is what squads are for

                    we need some quality in the middle baddly an enforcer and a playmaker if he has hopes for pogba he should be blooding him especially due to the amount of injuries we have 10 minutes here and there or the odd half if we ar comfortable will bring him on nice.

                    we are as poor a united side as i have seen since the early nineties the only reason we are second is because the full english game is in decline

                    that said i think we will win the league as players come back but i said earlier in the thread when people thought we were going to run away with it in august and beat arsenal 8-2 we were a poor team

                    that just papered the cracks
                    Finally a Utd fan whose not in denial




                    Hillsborough 15th of April 1989
                    96
                    Never Forgotten
                    You'll Never Walk Alone
                    JFT96 - !!DONT BUY THE S*N!!

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                    • Wolfpack
                      DK Veteran
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 1530

                      #4810
                      Originally posted by thered
                      ~~~~in chickens i have heard some bollox in my time


                      anyways lets talk about football 1st half we were much the better team second half i had it about even could of gone either way but to be honest i thought after scholes went off we got poorer

                      which just ~~~~in shows how bad we are when he is our best player after 9 months out

                      de gea what can i say cant understand the manager at all i have been saying since pre season lindegaard is better equipped for english football if de gea is to ever make it he needs beefing up and easing into it

                      too many players are not performing we have a 37 and a 38 year old in midfield ~~~~ the injuries excuse that is what squads are for

                      we need some quality in the middle baddly an enforcer and a playmaker if he has hopes for pogba he should be blooding him especially due to the amount of injuries we have 10 minutes here and there or the odd half if we ar comfortable will bring him on nice.

                      we are as poor a united side as i have seen since the early nineties the only reason we are second is because the full english game is in decline

                      that said i think we will win the league as players come back but i said earlier in the thread when people thought we were going to run away with it in august and beat arsenal 8-2 we were a poor team

                      that just papered the cracks
                      Hey Zee did you read this He said after scholes was taken off they went down hill. Didn't i say that was the reason Liverpool was able to take control of the game and score the winner. You told me i didn't know what i was watching but i guess this guy was watching the same game i was.

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                      • zee24
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 3342

                        #4811
                        I was commenting on the rest not the scholes issue Utd couldnt do much with Scholes on the pitch n neither when he was off.

                        By the way Liverpool fans know what they saw, Kenny making the right subs at the right time, while Fergie got it all wrong.




                        Hillsborough 15th of April 1989
                        96
                        Never Forgotten
                        You'll Never Walk Alone
                        JFT96 - !!DONT BUY THE S*N!!

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                        • redtide11
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 197

                          #4812
                          Originally posted by redtide11
                          Once again the threads turned into an episode of brookside

                          I thought we did ok today for large parts today but lacked the cutting edge to finish things off. Evra coped quite well with the (shall we call it atmosphere ?) and although somewhat at fault for the goal he played his part well and did not rise to the taunts.
                          We lacked a few keys figures today but still managed to dominate possesion away from home and I think the players can come away feeling unlucky and proud of a good solid performance.
                          Shall I mention De Gea ?
                          He was lost today and instead of finding ways to defend him I think we need to be honest and say he is not yet ready and almost certainly Lindegaard will take number one for league fixtures. WTF was he doing for the 1st goal ?????
                          Bad substitute removing Scholes and we lost our hold on the game after his exit but we cannot expect for him to play so many minutes.
                          They were there for the taking today but we are outdone by some bad keeping errors and we ran out steam and ideas once Scholes legs gave up the ghost.
                          We will recover and refocus now and with some important squad members due back in the next 2 weeks we have a chance to exact a very quick and timely revenge

                          I do see that Liverpool continue to be excluded from the two footed tackle rule given that Maxi was not even booked for what was at the very least a rash challenge.


                          It has been noted that my offer of a wager has been ignored, whats the matter not confident enough ? HA
                          Originally posted by zee24
                          I was commenting on the rest not the scholes issue Utd couldnt do much with Scholes on the pitch n neither when he was off.

                          By the way Liverpool fans know what they saw, Kenny making the right subs at the right time, while Fergie got it all wrong.
                          Yes Fergie got it all wrong thats why his side of reserves had control of the game for large parts and Kennys tactic of a doudle decker bus at home is the future. Fergies subs where all on the field in the 1st place zee or has that point eluded you so far Lets see how well Kenny's starlets do when they play the 1st team

                          I also commented on the Scholes issue and it was as stated the only reason Liverpool got in the game. But yes we are in need of more backup in that area of the squad, we may well win the league or even run it a close second but that issue needs to be addressed before another season starts.

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                          • sgerrard
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 547

                            #4813
                            Originally posted by Wolfpack
                            Hey Zee did you read this He said after scholes was taken off they went down hill. Didn't i say that was the reason Liverpool was able to take control of the game and score the winner. You told me i didn't know what i was watching but i guess this guy was watching the same game i was.

                            Wolfman & thered that is absolute bullshit, ANY PLAYER IN THE WORLD can look good on the ball when they are given as much time and space as Liverpool gave united for 60 minutes.

                            Its not "scholes bossed the midfield".... he was allowed to do whatever he wanted. Because he had time on the ball......but what did he do with it exactly?

                            3 shots on target? Uniteds goal came from a mistake.

                            Sure scholes and united had the ball for 60 mins, but what did they do with it?!

                            After we made our changes, he started to get run ragged, thats why fergie took him off, and liverpool pressed on and won the game.

                            You do see the game in a totally different way wolfman, and i think everyone agrees with me on this....you see it the totally wrong way!

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                            • sgerrard
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 547

                              #4814
                              Originally posted by redtide11
                              Yes Fergie got it all wrong thats why his side of reserves had control of the game for large parts and Kennys tactic of a doudle decker bus at home is the future. Fergies subs where all on the field in the 1st place zee or has that point eluded you so far Lets see how well Kenny's starlets do when they play the 1st team

                              I also commented on the Scholes issue and it was as stated the only reason Liverpool got in the game. But yes we are in need of more backup in that area of the squad, we may well win the league or even run it a close second but that issue needs to be addressed before another season starts.

                              Again thats rubbish

                              First of all how many times did berbatov touch the ball when he came on? ZERO

                              How many times to hernandez touch the ball? Twice

                              Like i said before, your "best" players scholes had all of the ball, but what did he do with it? NOTHING

                              3 shots on target?!

                              Thats weak

                              After 60 mins, we changed our tactics, and scholes got the run around and fergie quickly hauled him off

                              That was your team of reserves was it?

                              30 million berbatov?

                              30 million carrick?

                              20 million de gea?

                              10 million hernandez on the bench?

                              "great players" like scholes and giggs given as much as the ball as they like and not even able to muster 3 shots on goal?

                              Only 1 corner? in 90 minutes?!

                              I would seriously be looking at yourselves and be getting worried about the next few seasons.....

                              But i love the fact that you dont see it yet, so when it happens it will hit you even harder

                              Tick tock

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                              • yasminandrio
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 1256

                                #4815
                                Well what can i say!! FFS we were by far the better team!! De Gea well i don't think he will play another game this season!! Well i hope not! We didn't make enough chances with the possession, and pool converted there chances, I am sure the pool fans weren't happy how they played but very happy with the win! And i can say this as a Man Utd fan who follows them all over the world, I know that feeling well. I am not disapointed about not been in the FA Cup not at all, What i am disapointed about is that LFC beat us, I can't really slate our team for Saturdays performance as on a whole we were far better, but what i can say is De gea was SHIT!! But thats football, and tomorrow we play Stoke i am wanting a big win to get over the result on sat but thats how i work upset and disapointed by the result on sat but bounce back when its our next match day!! Come on UNITED!!
                                Last edited by yasminandrio; 30 January, 2012, 11:21.

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