freemasons taking over the world

[irfy]

Takin over as we speak

There are people who are members of the Masonic order on here, they will undoubtledly be members of other chapters as well, and they will have gone through the chair, and those on the outside, do not understand that it really is a bunch of men, who like to get together and do something together.... No where would they want to take over the world.

As someone said earlier, they have been around for 1000's of years, and they are still defo no nearer, you may as well be worried about the Monster Raving Loony party taking over, or, they are just a bunch of men who get together, have a few drinks, and a meal --- and some ritualistic stuff.

If you want to find out --- go and join. Most lodges are crying out for members.

Ummm we are in a global crysis ummmm WHY? The bankers!! umm war on Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, lots of others.. ummm why are our troops there?? umm to secure the promised land.. ummmm WHY? for the false messiah. Ummm how will we know he's the false one.... umm he will have 1 eye and 1 groping eye....

They are preparing the world for his arrival (meaning spreading terror, disease, war, Lies, thru the media which they control)
They used Bush who by the way is directly related to Mr Aleister Crowley, then they shove a new face into the picture Mr Obama who by the way is related to the Bush wackers anyway. They killed the lovely Princess Diana she was gona marry out of the blood line. Ooooh and they take genetics VERY seriously.

Cryin out for members !! NO thanx id rather play ping pong

List of some freemasons (lot more not listed)


US-PRESIDENTS: Obama, Bush wackers, George Washington, James Monroe, Andrew Jackson, James Polk, James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, James Garfield, William McKinley, Theodore Roosevelt, William Howard Taft, Warren G. Harding, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Harry S. Truman, Lyndon B. Johnson, Gerald R. Ford.

POLITICAL LEADERS WORLD WIDE: Winston Churchill, Simon Bolivar, Edmund Burke, Benito Juarez, Edward VII, Geroge VI, Bernardo O'Higgins, Jos? de San Martin, Francisco de Paula Santander, Jos? Rizal, Jos? Marti, Pandit Nehru, Lajos Kossuth, Jonas Furrer, Guiseppe Mazzini, Eduard Benes, John A. MacDonald, Aaron Burr, George McGovern, Barry Goldwater, Estes Kefauer, Thomas E. Dewey, Alf Landon, Hubert H. Humphrey, Wendel Wilke, W.E.B. DuBois, William Jennings Bryant, King Hussein of Jordan, Yasser Arafat, Francois Mitterand, Helmut Kohl, Gerhard Shroeder, Tony Blair, Yikzak Rabbin, Cecil Rhodes, Sir John J.C. Abbott, Stephen F. Austin, John G. Diefenbaker, Samuel J. Ervin Jr. (Watergate committee), Benjamin Franklin, John Hancock, Patrick Henry, Rev. Jesse Jackson, Sam Nunn, Lowell Thomas (brough Lawrence of Arabia to pub. not.), Gov. George C. Wallace, Strom Thurman, Jesse Helms, Robert Dole, Jack Kemp, Al Gore, Prince Phillip (GB), Zbigniew Brzezinski, Lord Peter Carrington, Andrew Carnegie, W. Averell Harriman, Henry Kissinger, Richard D. Heideman, Robert McNamara.

MILITARY LEADERS: Omar Bradley, John J. Pershing, Douglas McArthur, General Winfield Scott, Captain Eddie Rickenbacker, Jimmy Doolittle, General Mark Clarkem General George C. Marshall, General Henry "Hap" Arnold, John Paul Jones, Afred von Tirpitz (submarine warfare)

ARTISTS AND ENTERTAINERS: W.A. Mozart, Leopold Mozart, Ludwig van Beethoven, Jean Sibelius, Franz Liszt, Josef Haydn, Irving Berlin, Gutzon Borglum, Charles Peale, Alfons M. Mucha, Richard Wagner, John Philip Sousa, Gilbert & Sullivan, George Gershwin, George M. Cohen, Count Basie, Louise Armstrong, Nat King Cole, Giacomo Meyerbeer, Sigmund Romberg, John Wayne, Red Skelton, Clarke Gable, W.C. Fields, Will Rogers, Burl Ives, Roy Rogers, Danny Thomas, Ernest Borgnine, Oliver Hardy, Tom Mix, Audie Murphy, Gene Autry, Wallace Beery, Eddie Cantor, Roy Clarke, George M. Cohan, Walt Disney, Duke Ellington, Douglas Fairbanks, Leonardo da Vinci, Arthur Godfrey, Bob Hope, Harry Houdini, Al Jolson, Elmo Lincoln (Tarzan), Harold C. Lloyd,.jr, Tom Mix, Ronald Reagan, Will Rogers, Peter Sellers, William Shakespeare, Charles "Tom Thumb" Stratton, Paul Whiteman (King of Jazz), William Wyler (dir. of Ben Hur), Cecil B. DeMille, Sir Arthur Sullivan, John Zoffany.

MOVIE INDUSTRY: Jack Warner, Louise B. Mayer (MGM), Darryl F. Zanuck (20th Century Fox)

INDUSTRY, TRADE, BANKING AND LABOR: Henry Ford, Samuel Gompers, Walter P. Chrysler, John Wanamaker, S.S. Kresge, J.C. Penney, John Jacob Astor, John L. Lewis, Pehr G. Gyllenhammar (Volvo), Percy Barnevik (ABB), Andr? Citro?n, Samuel Colt (Colt revolver), Edwin L. Drake (oil), Rockefeller family, Rothschild family, King C. Gillette (Razors), Charles C. Hilton (Hilton hotels), Sir Thomas Lipton (Tea), Harry S. New (Airmail), Ransom E. Olds (Oldsmobile), David Sarnoff (father of TV), John W. Teets, Dave Thomas (Wendy's Rest.), Edgar Bronfman Jr. (Seagram Whiskey), Rich DeVos (Amway), Alan Greenspan (Fed. Reserve), Giovanni Agnelli (FIAT), Peter Wallenberg (SE-Bank Sweden)

ADVENTURERS: Lewis & Clarke, Charles A. Lindbergh, Kit Carson, Roald Amundsen, Admiral Richard Byrd, Commodore Robert Peary, Kit Carson, Casanova, William "Buffalo Bill" Cody, Davy Crockett, Meriwether Lewis, Robert E. Peary (Northpole)

PHILOSOPHERS: Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, Gotthold E. Lessing, Voltaire

ASTRONAUTS: Buzz Aldrin, Leroy Gordon Cooper, Donn Eisele, Virgil I. Grissom, Edgar D. Mitchell, Walter Schirra Jr., Thomas P. Stafford, Paul Weitz, James Irvin, John Glenn

WRITERS: Mark Twain, Sir Walter Scott, Rudyard Kipling, Robert Burns, Wassily I. Maikow, Heinrich Heine, Jean P.C. de Florian, Leopoldo Lugoner, Antonio de Castro Alves, James Boswell, Alexander Pushkin, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Jonathan Swift, Oscar Wilde, Jules Verne, H.G. Wells, Robert Burns, Carlo Collodi (Pinoccio), Edward Gibbon, Francis Scott Key (US NAtional Anthem), Rudyard Kipling, Felix Salten (Bambi), Lewis Wallace (Ben Hur), Alexander Pope

MEDICINE: Alexander Fleming (Penicillin), Jules Bordet, Antoine DePage, Edward Jenner, Charles & William Mayo, Karl & William Menninger, Karl A. Menninger (psychiatrist), Andrew T. Still (Osteopathy)

SCIENCE: Carl Sagan, Hans C. Orsted, J.J Frk. von Berzelius, Alfred Edmund Brehms, Luther Burbank, Johan Ernst Gunnerus, Albert Abraham Michelson (measured speed of light), Gaspard Monge, C.F.S. Hahnemann, Pedro N. Arata, Alexandre Gustave Eiffel, Jame Smithson, John Fitch (Steamboats), Joseph Ignance Guillotin (inventor of the Guillotin), Edward Jenner (vaccin), Simon Lake (submarine), Franz Anton Mesmer (Hypnotism), Albert Einstein, A.J. Sax (saxophone)

LAW: Henry Baldwin, Hugo L. Black, John Blair Jr., Samuel Blatchford, Harold H. Burton, James F. Byrnes, John Catton, Thomas C. Clarke, John H. Clarke, William Cushing, Willis van Devanter, William O. Douglas, Oliver Ellsworth, Stephen J. Field, John M. Harlan, RObert H. Jackson, Joseph E. Lamar, Thurgood Marshall, Stanley Matthews, Sherman Minton, Tom Mix, William H. Moody, Samuel Nelson, William Paterson, Mahlon Pitney, Stanley F. Reed, Wiley B. Rutledge, Potter Stewart, Noah H. Swayne, Thomas Todd, Robert Trimble, Frederick M. Vinson, Earl Warren, Levi Woodbury, William B. Woods

OTHERS: Frederic A. Bartholdi (designed the Staue of Liberty), Daniel Carter Beard (founder of Boy Scouts), Cornelius Hedges (Yellowstone Nat.Park), James Hoban (architect U.S Captial), James Naismith (basketball), Paul Revere (famous American), Rupert Murdoch (media mogul)

EDUCATION: Robert E.B. Baylor, Leland Stanford (Railroads & Stanford University)

RELIGIOUS LEADERS: Father Francisco Calvo (Jesuit Cat. Priest), Geoffrey Fisher (Canterbury), Billy Graham, Rev. Jesse Jackson, Joseph Fort Newton, Robert Shuller, Oral Roberts, Louise Farrahkan (Nation of Islam), G. Bromley Oxman (friend of Billy Graham), Joseph Smith (Mormon cult), Hyrum Smith (Brother), Brigham Young (2nd leader of Mormon cult), Sidney Rigdon (early Mormon), Heber C. Kimball, Spencer Kimball, Aleister Crowley (Satanist), Gerald B. Gardner (Wiccan), Wynn Westcott (Golden Dawn)

ORGANIZATIONS: Jean Henry Dunant (Red Cross), Melvin Jones (Lions Int.), Giuseppe Mazzini (Ital. Illuminati leader), Albert Pike (Ku Klux Klan)

INTELLIGENCE: J. Edgar Hoover, William Casey

A lot of popstars: Madonna head mistress of em all

[z786]

also, true, they have been around for thousands of years
slowly paving the way for their messiah or "the great architect"

now that israel is created, they are securing the borders
the false messiah has 2 imitate the real 1, so he has to be appointed in the same place

soon the time will come and you will see

they have killed religion, they have tarnished the name of Islam

so now the new world order is nearing completion
and it being a secular godless 1, im sure you will have a great time

red pill or blue?

[z786]

freemasons/illuminati indoctrinate people thru mass media
can you tell me the significance of the number 9-11 in freemasonry?
wait no, the "terrorists" blew up 2 buildings then
no wait, what americaa emergency number?
maybe jay-z can explain why his album was released on 9-11?

this is when he joined, listen 2 the lyrics carefully
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mnyBp4FzzI]YouTube - Jay-Z - D'Evils[/ame]

also @ chroma, you definately aint a 33rd degree yet, or you are and are acting dumb

[irfy]

Just check the link

Wait what?
Your views are closeminded, paranoid and entirely unfounded in this instance.

In my lodge i stand proudly side by side with Christians, Jews, Muslims. Its entirely NON-DENOMINATIONAL, in fact i dont ever remember religion ever being discussed in an actual meeting. Theres absoloutly no worship towards any "Messiah" in fact if there where it would cause more harm than good, simply down to the fact that what one man views as a messiah will and should widely differ from anothers.

Ah but wait they do crazy satanic rituals right?..
Wrong.
Sure we perform ritual dramas, but these have absoloutly nothing to do with religion, theyre merely allegorys filled with symbolism, they're there to teach and instruct in a memorable way. They impart ethics and morals on how men should act towards each other and instill discipline. Religion can deal with how men relate to some "god" masonry should not and does not.

Simply put, freemasonry is nothing more than a frat house that keeps minuites and holds dramas geared towards teaching some sorely needed morals and ethics that definately seem lacking in todays society.

As for being secretive, freemasons generaly aint, any freemason worth his salt will openly let you know hes one, the only part he will keep secret is the specific goings on in his lodge. You want to know what the exact outline of our rituals and ceremonies are? your more than welcome to join in the fun with us.
Secret handshakes? symbols? this is just to let one mason let another mason know that hes been inducted and can take part in another lodge without fear of letting the tradition down.
Traditions are an antiquated things nowadays, noone seems to abide by them any more which is a great shame, every man in the navy for instance knew he was part of a brotherhood by sharing a tot with them over dinner, once that got changed in july 31st 1970 the Navy changed, most would say for the worst. This is one of a number of reasons we keep ours secluded from the larger world, tradition brings a sense of unity and thats something that runs deep in a mason.

If standing side by side with people from all walks of life with all kinds of beliefs and not feeling the need to stab them because "my god is better than your god" is wrong, then so be it, i dont think i would want to be right.

Im happy standing in my lodge beside to my fellow man and knowing without a shadow of doubt that my belief is just as valid as his, not moreso, not less. I respect him enough to let him practice his religion in whichever way suits him best, knowing he has the same respect for me.
Any discussions surrounding his or mine should and will be kept outside the lodge where it wont bring the detriment of religious practices into events.

Exactly the same can be said of sexual orientation and political beliefs.

For the love of god just check and read this link:

Aleister Crowley EXPOSED!

There are levels of free masonary you obviously sit somewhere near the bottom. If your practises are anywhere near what his are like then there's something very very wrong.

Just think carrying on the BEASTS legacy

I do have respect for other religions but seriously do you call freemasonary a religion??

[flyingpig]

There are people who are members of the Masonic order on here, they will undoubtledly be members of other chapters as well, and they will have gone through the chair, and those on the outside, do not understand that it really is a bunch of men, who like to get together and do something together.... No where would they want to take over the world.

As someone said earlier, they have been around for 1000's of years, and they are still defo no nearer, you may as well be worried about the Monster Raving Loony party taking over, or, they are just a bunch of men who get together, have a few drinks, and a meal --- and some ritualistic stuff.

If you want to find out --- go and join. Most lodges are crying out for members.

[chroma]

To all freemasons reading this it might look like ur winning now and yes ur messiah will come soon but he is the false messiah and will be defeated. Its never too late to repent

Wait what?
Your views are closeminded, paranoid and entirely unfounded in this instance.

In my lodge i stand proudly side by side with Christians, Jews, Muslims. Its entirely NON-DENOMINATIONAL, in fact i dont ever remember religion ever being discussed in an actual meeting. Theres absoloutly no worship towards any "Messiah" in fact if there where it would cause more harm than good, simply down to the fact that what one man views as a messiah will and should widely differ from anothers.

Ah but wait they do crazy satanic rituals right?..
Wrong.
Sure we perform ritual dramas, but these have absoloutly nothing to do with religion, theyre merely allegorys filled with symbolism, they're there to teach and instruct in a memorable way. They impart ethics and morals on how men should act towards each other and instill discipline. Religion can deal with how men relate to some "god" masonry should not and does not.

Simply put, freemasonry is nothing more than a frat house that keeps minuites and holds dramas geared towards teaching some sorely needed morals and ethics that definately seem lacking in todays society.

As for being secretive, freemasons generaly aint, any freemason worth his salt will openly let you know hes one, the only part he will keep secret is the specific goings on in his lodge. You want to know what the exact outline of our rituals and ceremonies are? your more than welcome to join in the fun with us.
Secret handshakes? symbols? this is just to let one mason let another mason know that hes been inducted and can take part in another lodge without fear of letting the tradition down.
Traditions are an antiquated things nowadays, noone seems to abide by them any more which is a great shame, every man in the navy for instance knew he was part of a brotherhood by sharing a tot with them over dinner, once that got changed in july 31st 1970 the Navy changed, most would say for the worst. This is one of a number of reasons we keep ours secluded from the larger world, tradition brings a sense of unity and thats something that runs deep in a mason.

If standing side by side with people from all walks of life with all kinds of beliefs and not feeling the need to stab them because "my god is better than your god" is wrong, then so be it, i dont think i would want to be right.

Im happy standing in my lodge beside to my fellow man and knowing without a shadow of doubt that my belief is just as valid as his, not moreso, not less. I respect him enough to let him practice his religion in whichever way suits him best, knowing he has the same respect for me.
Any discussions surrounding his or mine should and will be kept outside the lodge where it wont bring the detriment of religious practices into events.

Exactly the same can be said of sexual orientation and political beliefs.

[nara]

Same old same old any proof old man or just another sweeping statement, .

I need to prove that David Icke is crazy?

[z786]

here we view things a little different

maybe you, not evry1
if you can watch all of the arrivals, and i mean ALL of it
then come back and tell me me how you view things then

iv shown it 2 the most stubborn of people and they soon change their mind

"the people plugged into the system will fight to protect it, in fear of finding out what really is going on"

might burst your little bubble mate

[TheJackel]

No. Still crazy, I'm afraid.

Seriously though, it must be hellish living your life in fear and suspicion, crouched at your keyboard.

There's a wonderful world out there.

Get out and smell the roses.

Same old same old any proof old man or just another sweeping statement, .

[thered]

if all the crap about freemasons and the illuminati bloodlines ect taking over the world is true

all i can say is they are pretty ~~~~in 5hite at creating a NWO after all they have been doing it since the mayan times

give it another 20.000 years we may be a bit closer to there goal these guys can really shift

and shape shift too

[a911]

Irfy welcome to planet Earth, here we view things a little different
David Icke = Nutz
Freemason's = a bunch of harmless guys with a funny handshake

No m8,,,they are not "a bunch of harmless guys with a funny handshake"

they are powerful and control the media and banks!

[a911]

I dont live in fear anymore, I hav 3 wonderful children in my life now. I have learnt to fear only the creator and not the created.

Thank you for your words of wisdom.

Thank U, will put!

[Herbie]

Irfy welcome to planet Earth, here we view things a little different
David Icke = Nutz
Freemason's = a bunch of harmless guys with a funny handshake

[irfy]

Thanx for the advice

No. Still crazy, I'm afraid.

Seriously though, it must be hellish living your life in fear and suspicion, crouched at your keyboard.

There's a wonderful world out there.

Get out and smell the roses.

I dont live in fear anymore, I hav 3 wonderful children in my life now. I have learnt to fear only the creator and not the created.

Thank you for your words of wisdom.

[nara]

The world thought David Icke was insane. Years later now you see what people think of him he's not crazy anymore.

No. Still crazy, I'm afraid.

Seriously though, it must be hellish living your life in fear and suspicion, crouched at your keyboard.

There's a wonderful world out there.

Get out and smell the roses.