anyone heard of Satellite box feeds causing problems with normal tv Aerial feeds ?

[Saltire]

Also, while I am on the subject of all this, does anyone think that the council contractor would listen to me If I said that I wanted them to fit a good quality LNB such as one I was advised by someone to ask for which is the black inverto ultra quad and also a 100cm Mesh dish of great quality too ?

You see, one of the guys from the contractor that is coming out says already to me that sometime after the new year when I might have money he would be able to fit a motorised system, what I am thinking just now is if I get a good quality dish and a great quality LNB then surely thats half the battle and then after the new year the guy only needs to fit a good quality Motor, know what I mean ?

Reason why I mention a mesh dish and 100cm is because I am half way up Scotland remember, plus my house is wide open to the wild winds and all types of weather, so I heard they are best in that scenario.

I just dont know if the contractor will budge though as they will be wanting to make maximum profit from the offer they had accepted by the Council for a full new set up of Sat Dish (and LNB obviously), Terrestrial Aerial and all cabling and parts and labour charge etc, so the contractor could tell me to F-Off, know what am sayin ?

P.S, I assume that white Satellite and Aerial cabling is availble as this house is white roughcast and would look ridiculous with black cabling, surely I can demand white cabling at the very least ?

P.P.S, to be honest, I am wondering where all the new cabling will go, will it be on the outer walls of the house or hidden inside the walls of the house as it is right now with the communal system ?

[Hadron]

Wouldn't that be at a personal cost though mate as the cooncil only provide sockets for DVB Terrestrial in the bedrooms and me no got extra dosh the noo
for such work etc ? (the upstairs Sat Sockets I mean).

p.s, I am wondering where all the new cabling will go, will it be on the outer walls of the house or hidden inside the walls of the house as it is right now with the communal system ?

As you mentioned earlier that you wanted a good quality LNB & a good quality dish, I wasn't sure whether you had a say in the equipment & installation that the contractors will be providing. That's why I mentioned an upstairs sat feed as well.

I suspect that the council will only agree to pay the contractors for the minimum (cheapest) solution to provide you with your own sat & terrestrial setup. As routing the cables through the attic will take more time & effort, I also assume that they will run the cable down the wall & drill a hole through to your living room.

Sometimes in these situations, if you want extras, or something done differently, you can pay the extra costs yourself, but as you say, if you cannot afford it at the moment, then you will just have to go with what the contractors provide.

If they do run the cable down the outside wall to your living room, I would still be tempted to ask them to drill a hole & add a feed to an upstairs room while they are there. Even if they just leave you with a few yards of cable poking through the hole, you can still run it round the skirting board yourself, or tidy it up later with your own faceplate. If they are not contracted for an upstairs installation, I'm sure some paper money, or a bottle of scotch would persuade them.

I have no idea about motorised systems. I don't know if a normal dish can be retrofitted with a motor later, or whether you need a motorised system from the start.

[Saltire]

Can i demand white cable for a building that has white roughcast on the outside on the walls as I know they mostly use black cable, surely I can demand white cabling if its to be on the outside of the building as black will just ruin the entire look of the property, know what am sayin ?

[Hadron]

Can i demand white cable for a building that has white roughcast on the outside on the walls as I know they mostly use black cable, surely I can demand white cabling if its to be on the outside of the building as black will just ruin the entire look of the property, know what am sayin ?

External shotgun sat cable is available in white as well as black, so I don't see why you can't have it. AFAIK there's no difference in price between black & white cable.

I know what you mean about black cable running down a white wall. I see it so many times round my area. Doesn't look good at all!

[Saltire]

Thanks Hadron,

So what do I do with regards to the LNB and DISH, do I demand that they fit a great quality black inverto ultra quad LNB and also a good quality 100cm Mesh dish and if they say no then do I just tell them to forget the job which I could do if the parts aren't fit for purpose that they are going to use, I.E - the cheapest of the cheap garbage, no chance do I accept that as I might as well make them solve the problem with the communal system if thats they case ? Know what I am saying guys ?

I would need to call their office and boss tomorrow monday as install is meant to be tuesday, so whatever I am doing and suggesting needs to be said and done tomorrow.

[Saltire]

FFS, contacted the contractor today and they said it will be a 60cm mini dish, when I heard that I nearly fell off my chair man

I didnt even ask what type LNB was as the dish story took me aback .

Now what do I do now, do I tell the council to get a decent contractor out to figure out the problems with the communal system that has worked perfect for years ?

Do I tell them to Cancel it or what, someone please tell me as I dont know what to do now ?

Aren't 60cm mini dishes just suitable for Freesat especially if you live up in the Glasgow area os Scotland ?

[happy_highlander]

FFS, contacted the contractor today and they said it will be a 60cm mini dish, when I heard that I nearly fell off my chair man

I didnt even ask what type LNB was as the dish story took me aback .

Now what do I do now, do I tell the council to get a decent contractor out to figure out the problems with the communal system that has worked perfect for years ?

Do I tell them to Cancel it or what, someone please tell me as I dont know what to do now ?

Aren't 60cm mini dishes just suitable for Freesat especially if you live up in the Glasgow area os Scotland ?

They will fit a dish that is suitable for receiving 28.2e only as that has all UK beams. 60cm is plenty big enough for that. If you wanted any other sats you would have to fit a multi lnb and reposition dish or fit a motor and none of that would be covered by council install

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[Saltire]

UPDATE:

Just tried the newly fixed VU+DUO and its working fantastic, yeeeehaaaa

Signals are up there in the 80's on some channels even into the 90's on some
channels.

So thank goodness for that, and that proves one thing, the Box is now fine AGAIN
and also the Satellite dish and twin feeds are fine as both tuners are in use.

So in my eyes that means there is no need what so ever to install any 'new'
Satellite dish, the problem with the DVB Terrestrial tv Aerial signal solely is a
Terrestrial TV aerial and/or cabling problem.

Whatever that problem is is anyones guess, but would everyone agree that the
only thing required now is a New Terrerstrial TV aerial, cabling (and splitter be it
amplified or not) so that I get the normal Terrestrial tv channels and signal both
upstairs and downstairs

If I can get this confirmed with you all then I know exactly what to say to the
council, because it looks like that to me.

Put it this way, if I was fit and able enough to Fit a tv aerial and use a splitter
whether it be aplified or not, I know for a fact I would get terrestrial tv on
both tv's, so I guess I answered my own question really.

I Would much prefer that some of you guys just back what I am suggesting here and
confirm this please though before I make any possible mistakes

[Hadron]

A drawback with the current setup is that you only have 2 sat feeds. If you were to have your own dish it would almost certainly be fitted with a quad LNB. This would allow for an extra couple of feeds to be added in the future (to an upstairs room perhaps?).

If you are happy with just the 2 feeds as you have them now, then I'm sure the council would be happy to just fit a new terrestrial aerial, as it would save them a lot of money.

[Saltire]

A drawback with the current setup is that you only have 2 sat feeds. If you were to have your own dish it would almost certainly be fitted with a quad LNB. This would allow for an extra couple of feeds to be added in the future (to an upstairs room perhaps?).

If you are happy with just the 2 feeds as you have them now, then I'm sure the council would be happy to just fit a new terrestrial aerial, as it would save them a lot of money.

my thinking too mate, cheers man.

[happy_highlander]

Even though hardly any of us had every heard of anything like this I've just come across a very similar situation at the flat my daughter rents. In this case her sky box shows no signal to receiver on screen unless the terrestrial aerial is plugged into the tv then everything works fine. My solution was plug both in and sod it.

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[Saltire]

FFS, contacted the contractor today and they said it will be a 60cm mini dish, when I heard that I nearly fell off my chair man
I didnt even ask what type LNB was as the dish story took me aback .
Now what do I do now, do I tell the council to get a decent contractor out to figure out the problems with the communal system that has worked perfect for years ?
Do I tell them to Cancel it or what, someone please tell me as I dont know what to do now ?
Aren't 60cm mini dishes just suitable for Freesat especially if you live up in the Glasgow area os Scotland ?

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This issue is still not fixed, still exactly the same way with having to leave the VU box on in order to get DVB terrestrial signals to each tv in each room including the main living room.

As I said in post 66 of this thread, the council are willing to allow the contractor to fit a Sat Dish and Terrestrial TV aerial too on my property in order to get totally seperate from the communal system of the 3 houses.

However, once I asked the contractor what they intended to fit I canceled it and that was that, I dont want no sh?t 60 cm mini dish cheap as chips and a cheap terrestrail aerial either and that is why I refused point blank, I know these mini sat dish kits are approx ?30 to buy and the contractor would get them cheaper at trade price and there is no doubt about it, they would be charging the council hundreds to do the pizz easy cheapo job, so I dont want junk.

The signal from the communal sat dish is fine, the signal from the terrestrial TV aerial is fine, only problem is I have to leave the VU box on in order to keep the terrestrial signal going to all tv's in the living room and bedroom, apart from that there is nothing wrong with signals or the equipment etc.

Isn't there a way I can fit an electrically powered terrestrial tv Amplifier booster and or one that would allow some energy to power the whole Satellite system so that I dont need to constantly keep the VU box switched on ?

Preferably something that I could fit and plug in behind the main living room tv where the VU box is and the cables and wall faceplate sockets etc, or at worst even to fit something in the attic ?

It cant be that hard when realistically everything is working fine apart from a satellite box needing to be left on to give a constant signal to the Terrestrial tvs in the rooms ?

Can anyone help advise please as this is really doing my nut in man ???

p.s
my next step would be to chance my luck and ask the council can I buy/supply my own dish/LNB and terrestrial aerial and that way they just pay the labour costs for the contractor, thing is though, I would want the council to maintain it in future should faults occur and I am talking about really good quality dish of maybe 100cm and an Inverto ultra LNB etc, possibly motorised too, but I dont know how far I could push my luck on that, even the communal dish looks like its either at least 80-90-100cm in size, its defo not a pizzy wee 60 cm mini crappy dish.

p.p.s,
I meant to say that I am getting a free talktalk freeview terrestrial tv box sent out next week, would that help any I wonder ?

[Saltire]

FFS, contacted the contractor today and they said it will be a 60cm mini dish, when I heard that I nearly fell off my chair man
I didnt even ask what type LNB was as the dish story took me aback .
Now what do I do now, do I tell the council to get a decent contractor out to figure out the problems with the communal system that has worked perfect for years ?
Do I tell them to Cancel it or what, someone please tell me as I dont know what to do now ?
Aren't 60cm mini dishes just suitable for Freesat especially if you live up in the Glasgow area os Scotland ?

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This issue is still not fixed, still exactly the same way with having to leave the VU box on in order to get DVB terrestrial signals to each tv in each room including the main living room.

As I said in post 66 of this thread, the council are willing to allow the contractor to fit a Sat Dish and Terrestrial TV aerial too on my property in order to get totally seperate from the communal system of the 3 houses.

However, once I asked the contractor what they intended to fit I canceled it and that was that, I dont want no sh?t 60 cm mini dish cheap as chips and a cheap terrestrail aerial either and that is why I refused point blank, I know these mini sat dish kits are approx ?30 to buy and the contractor would get them cheaper at trade price and there is no doubt about it, they would be charging the council hundreds to do the pizz easy cheapo job, so I dont want junk.

The signal from the communal sat dish is fine, the signal from the terrestrial TV aerial is fine, only problem is I have to leave the VU box on in order to keep the terrestrial signal going to all tv's in the living room and bedroom, apart from that there is nothing wrong with signals or the equipment etc.

Isn't there a way I can fit an electrically powered terrestrial tv Amplifier booster and or one that would allow some energy to power the whole Satellite system so that I dont need to constantly keep the VU box switched on ?

Preferably something that I could fit and plug in behind the main living room tv where the VU box is and the cables and wall faceplate sockets etc, or at worst even to fit something in the attic ?

It cant be that hard when realistically everything is working fine apart from a satellite box needing to be left on to give a constant signal to the Terrestrial tvs in the rooms ?

Can anyone help advise please as this is really doing my nut in man ???

p.s
my next step would be to chance my luck and ask the council can I buy/supply my own dish/LNB and terrestrial aerial and that way they just pay the labour costs for the contractor, thing is though, I would want the council to maintain it in future should faults occur and I am talking about really good quality dish of maybe 100cm and an Inverto ultra LNB etc, possibly motorised too, but I dont know how far I could push my luck on that, even the communal dish looks like its either at least 80-90-100cm in size, its defo not a pizzy wee 60 cm mini crappy dish.

p.p.s,
I meant to say that I am getting a free talktalk freeview terrestrial tv box sent out next week, would that help any I wonder ?

Any help at all very much appreciated please, I know this is going on and on but I really dont know what to do man

[happy_highlander]

I can't help with the issue your having but I can say you should think yourself lucky the coonsil agreed to any sat dish when the communal one is working. All they really need to do is bung up a new terrestrial aerial and say when you want to use the sat side the box will be on anyway

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[Hadron]

Didn't you ask whether the council could put up a terrestrial aerial only, & leave the satellite side of things as they are, as mentioned earlier in the thread?