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  • SouthernComfort
    DK Veteran
    • Feb 2011
    • 403

    #16
    Originally posted by Bulld0g
    How many 10 year olds going into senior school do you know who don't know it's wrong to kidnap and murder a baby ? They knew what they were doing.


    Thats why there are so many ~~~~in scumbags running around wih guns playing gangsters in this country, because people are always giving them the benefit of the doubt and it comes back to bite them on the arse time and time again.

    I don't believe for one minute these two coonts were born innocent, they were born evil. Think back to when you were Ten years of age where you capable of killing a child ? These two never led a sheltered life they were probably more street wise than most teenagers are these days. The reason they got lenient sentences was because people argued they were children and didnt know right from wrong. It seems they still don't
    I fully understand what it is like to come from somewhere, where guns on the streets are normality, so a few wannabe gangsters would be of little concern.
    I also know children who were willing to kill for things they could never begin to comprehend, were they evil? Misguided maybe.
    I know the abused go on to become abusers, perhaps those children weren't fortunate enough to have the upbringing most people had. Not making excuses for their actions but
    it would sadden me to think a child could be born evil.
    "What we've got here is failure to communicate."

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    • janobi
      V.I.P. Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 1624

      #17
      I guess judging someone from behind a keyboard is pretty easy. Remember we dont know the whole facts of any of this. And yet were all so quick to condemn these poor individuals. No-one is born evil, there is no such thing as good and evil, it is something we learn as we get older, and not something we are born with.

      Its like fear, its taught, its not there from birth!

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      • j.efc
        Top Poster
        • Oct 2010
        • 157

        #18
        these poor individuals, are you takin the piss

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        • SouthernComfort
          DK Veteran
          • Feb 2011
          • 403

          #19
          Murder in the UK - Serial Killers - Cannibals - Child Killers - Mass Murder
          "What we've got here is failure to communicate."

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          • janobi
            V.I.P. Member
            • Mar 2008
            • 1624

            #20
            Originally posted by j.efc
            these poor individuals, are you takin the piss
            We all make mistakes, we all do stuff wrong. Are you totally innocent, and have never done anything wrong in life? If so, then let ye be the first to cast the sword of damnation.

            They were young kids when all this happened, and yes at that point they were poor individuals. What happens if this information is incorrect, and the person gets attacked and killed? Then it comes out, that the information was wrong, would the people then hand themselves in? No would they hell. And they would be no better than other killers of this world.

            Join the hate mob mentality if you wish. I hear the EDL has openings too. We have a judicial system in the UK, you may not agree with the punishments that are given, but its still our system, its the rules we live by. Too often people are happy to bend/break those rules for what they think/believe is right.

            This thread should be closed imo, it is neither informative, or helpful, and all it does it allow people to vent at a computer screen. If you want to make a difference in society, then become a doctor/policeman/teacher/social worker, and give something back to the adults of tomorrow. Instead of sitting at a PC, putting the world to rights.

            "let he who is without sin cast the first stone"

            One last point, the Guilford 4, the Birmingham 6 are just a few who have experienced the harsh reality of our judicial system. I wonder how many called for them to be hung, drawn and quatered at the time of those traversties. Yet they are now proven to be innocent......

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            • MrFug
              DK Veteran
              • May 2008
              • 880

              #21
              As a law student, I read about a lot of horrific crimes but nothing has ever disturbed and perplexed me like the Bulger case.

              I agree with Janobi however. These types of threads aren't helpful at all. We have to keep in mind though that the judicial system has been developed over many years, by men and women much smarter than us, and it exists to ensure that the rules that govern us all are objective, fair and equitable. It doesn't always work like that and travesties do occur, but even people who rape, murder and commit all kinds of unthinkable acts are treated as fairly as possible - that's what makes us civilised.

              P.S Since we're all feeling so righteous today, maybe those of us who are guilty should turn ourselves in for stealing subscription TV? :P

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              • cantona7
                V.I.P. Member
                • Apr 2008
                • 936

                #22
                big difference between killing and sexually assaulting a 2 year old boy and nicking a bit of free tv me thinks !!!!!!

                i say kill the ~~~~ers and all the sick peados and dont call me civilised if that is all that matters

                they should have no rights when they do things that sick and twisted

                when the sea gulls follow the trawler,it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea

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                • Bulld0g
                  V.I.P. Member
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 7158

                  #23
                  Originally posted by SouthernComfort
                  Not making excuses for their actions
                  You could have fooled me.

                  THE TRUTH
                  The Hillsborough Independent Panel. 12/09/12

                  Today's report is black and white.The Liverpool fans were not the cause of the disaster.
                  The panel has quite simply found 'no evidence' in support of allegations of 'exceptional levels of drunkenness, ticketlessness or violence among Liverpool fans' and 'no evidence that fans had conspired to arrive late at the stadium' and 'no evidence that they stole from the dead and dying'.

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                  • Bulld0g
                    V.I.P. Member
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 7158

                    #24
                    Originally posted by janobi
                    I guess judging someone from behind a keyboard is pretty easy. Remember we dont know the whole facts of any of this. And yet were all so quick to condemn these poor individuals. No-one is born evil, there is no such thing as good and evil, it is something we learn as we get older, and not something we are born with.

                    Its like fear, its taught, its not there from birth!
                    Are you for real ? Judging from behind a keyboard, poor individuals ? your either trolling for a reaction or seriuosly deluded if you even begin to believe that shite.

                    THE TRUTH
                    The Hillsborough Independent Panel. 12/09/12

                    Today's report is black and white.The Liverpool fans were not the cause of the disaster.
                    The panel has quite simply found 'no evidence' in support of allegations of 'exceptional levels of drunkenness, ticketlessness or violence among Liverpool fans' and 'no evidence that fans had conspired to arrive late at the stadium' and 'no evidence that they stole from the dead and dying'.

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                    • barrowmanandrew
                      V.I.P. Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 3427

                      #25
                      Originally posted by janobi
                      I guess judging someone from behind a keyboard is pretty easy. Remember we dont know the whole facts of any of this. And yet were all so quick to condemn these poor individuals. No-one is born evil, there is no such thing as good and evil, it is something we learn as we get older, and not something we are born with.

                      Its like fear, its taught, its not there from birth!
                      must totally disagree,
                      there is no question here of guilt here.
                      there is cctv and aknowledgement of guilt.
                      no-one is disputing this FACT....

                      i doubt anyone could disagree,
                      the GUILTY party are GUILTY.

                      i am all for forgive and forget, but there is somethings that are UNFORGIVABLE....

                      any sane person that has kids must see that....

                      i don't give a shit how old they where when they murdered and mutilated the three year old child...

                      question.

                      anyone showing leniency to these child murdering animals..
                      would you feel the same if it was :

                      1. your child.
                      2: your grandchild.
                      3: your family.

                      lets not disrespect the poor murderd childs parents by excusing these animals...

                      give them no peace.... ~~~~in animals.....

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                      • paul hick
                        Top Poster +
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 216

                        #26
                        Originally posted by janobi
                        We all make mistakes, we all do stuff wrong. Are you totally innocent, and have never done anything wrong in life? If so, then let ye be the first to cast the sword of damnation.

                        They were young kids when all this happened, and yes at that point they were poor individuals. What happens if this information is incorrect, and the person gets attacked and killed? Then it comes out, that the information was wrong, would the people then hand themselves in? No would they hell. And they would be no better than other killers of this world.

                        Join the hate mob mentality if you wish. I hear the EDL has openings too. We have a judicial system in the UK, you may not agree with the punishments that are given, but its still our system, its the rules we live by. Too often people are happy to bend/break those rules for what they think/believe is right.

                        This thread should be closed imo, it is neither informative, or helpful, and all it does it allow people to vent at a computer screen. If you want to make a difference in society, then become a doctor/policeman/teacher/social worker, and give something back to the adults of tomorrow. Instead of sitting at a PC, putting the world to rights.

                        "let he who is without sin cast the first stone"

                        One last point, the Guilford 4, the Birmingham 6 are just a few who have experienced the harsh reality of our judicial system. I wonder how many called for them to be hung, drawn and quatered at the time of those traversties. Yet they are now proven to be innocent......
                        are you for real?lets get some kids to come round and kidnap,sexually assault then mutilate your child.lets hear you say "oh well,boys will be boys"
                        as much as your a respected poster on here all i think at the minute is your a prat(was going to put a lot worse but i aint getting banned from here because of some doogooder)

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                        • ck-ok
                          V.I.P. Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 2592

                          #27
                          peronally i think people are born evil, there should be no hiding place for these two and they did alot more than just murder this poor defencless child they mutilated his body before killing him.
                          these two should of got life meaning life or better still death.
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                          • setfiretorain
                            DK Veteran
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 934

                            #28
                            I completely agree that what they done was a disgrace, myself I'm not old enough to remember but I've viewed many documentaries on the topic and have gathered a good knowledge of this awful event, and I believe if the authorities want to protect there identity, they should lock em up and let them live a life of misery!, or send them to a prison abroad, that would sort em out !

                            Regards.
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                            • j.efc
                              Top Poster
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 157

                              #29
                              Originally posted by ck-ok
                              peronally i think people are born evil, there should be no hiding place for these two and they did alot more than just murder this poor defencless child they mutilated his body before killing him.
                              these two should of got life meaning life or better still death.
                              spot on mate

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                              • MrFug
                                DK Veteran
                                • May 2008
                                • 880

                                #30
                                If someone comitted comparable crimes on my child, I'd hunt them to the ends of the earth and kill them, regardless of age, sex, culpability etc.

                                But that doesn't make me right.

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