Bedroom tax, new thread !

[thered]

I have no idea mate. Some people know what to claim/who to claim it off. Some people don't. Some people don't claim all they are entitled to - The DWP figures suggest that the figure for unclaimed benefits is much higher than that of fraudulent claims...I do not have the figures to hand but im sure google will assist if you need to see back up of that statement.
Good luck to you mate I really mean that....it's obvious we just disagree on where/how/and how much the tax payer cash should be spread around. I wish you all the health and wealth in the world mate...just because we have different views on political things don't mean we are not human. Have a good day, Im off out as apparently It's my job to treat my misses on mothers day even though we have no kids . She has grown up ones from previous marriage but I am the "kid" today .

Fraudulent cases are the ones caught, they represent a tiny fraction of the actual real cases

I know many people on DLA and this is more to Jordigirls post

Persistence is the key to benefit most people give up when they get the refusal letter give up, i think first refusal of DLA is standard practice tbh

Appeal and go to court. many cases are written off before court the number who win at court are 56%

Medical evidence is key hospital letters whatever help

Citizens advice help many

MS is difficult many people are ok for periods of time, and many people work ok with no problems for years, its difficult to know how it affected your mum from post

But medical evidence, correct advice and persistence as said before is key

[tshirtman]

Re: Bedroom tax, new thread !

just to verify something about mobility and mental health,

people who are taking anti-psychotic medication are not allowed to drive. without permission of DVLA and there insurers

they will usually get a free travel pass for bus/tram/train instead.

Anyone who is taking anti - psychotics and still driving without prior permission are breaking the law.

and 9 times out of 10, DVLA will revoke there licence.

[jordigirl]

@ thered


me mum has primary progressive m.s (it progressively gets worse with no remission ) she had it for about 15 years before it was actually diagnosed properly, she has walking differculties now, and often loses her balance,
has weakness in her legs and hands,
we fought for 3-4 years to get her dla with appeals and refusals
i want to add - she actually deserves this money and is no fraud, scrounger, she worked uptill she was 60 and retired

[gmb45]

this bed tax will hit them peeps the hardest whos getting the least money, just jsa for example, they will be eating the cheapest of shite food they can find and will still be hungry before next "pay day" i know ive been there, them whos getting dla this tax will mean f all tbh.

[jordigirl]

i think it should have been better thought out in principal its a good idea!

but!!!!

people who are willing to downsize and have no suitable property to go to should be exempt, also soldiers serving abroad, disabled people who need a carer staying over etc. etc.

not everyone 1 at once

[gmb45]

i think it should have been better thought out in principal its a good idea!

but!!!!

people who are willing to downsize and have no suitable property to go to should be exempt, also soldiers serving abroad, disabled people who need a carer staying over etc. etc.

not everyone 1 at once

yep, typical gov, just do it, dont think it out proper,this tax has been brought in very quick, so its obvious they cant have thought it out proper, or just dont give a ferk about joe bloggs, which is more like it, im all right jack ferk you lot

[tshirtman]

Re: Bedroom tax, new thread !

this bed tax will hit them peeps the hardest whos getting the least money, just jsa for example, they will be eating the cheapest of shite food they can find and will still be hungry before next "pay day" i know ive been there, them whos getting dla this tax will mean f all tbh.

isn't that exactly what's happening though, everyone is being tarred with the same brush, and being put on jsa, I agree there's a lot of claimants who don't deserve DLA, but at the moment everyone is being treated as a scrounger.

it angers me that the decision of a physio-therapist is taken over that of a consultant doctor,
this then leads to countless appeals costing more money.

There has to be a fairer way, or maybe if Thatcher had introduced DLA to hide the unemployment figures we wouldn't be in this message now.

[jordigirl]

a lot of people who get esa (incapacity benefit) don't actually claim dla or are not entitled to it.
dla is not just a benefit for people on benefits working people can actually claim it aswell

[gmb45]

a lot of people who get esa (incapacity benefit) don't actually claim dla or are not entitled to it.
dla is not just a benefit for people on benefits working people can actually claim it aswell

maybe dla should be means tested, if your working and earning a decent wage why get dla ? after all if your earning and able to support yourself why should you get dla, and if your working you cant be that disabled if your doing a job, tbh honest dla should not go direct to the people, if they need adaptions to your house for example they should be done by a company, which brings me back to free parking the disabled get enuff money to contribute towards parking costs not given free, which i think some councils may be looking into or have implemented by providing parking spaces but the disabled still have to pay, im not having a dig a the disabled they deserve any help thats going, but this help must be implemented in a different way, not by throwing money at them, sure if they need an adapted car they get it to get about,any adaptions to the house should be done, a live in carer paid for if needed, but this benefit as ive said is abused as much as any other benefit, but i dont care what any one says it wont be "hit" like other benefits.

[thered]

@ thered


me mum has primary progressive m.s (it progressively gets worse with no remission ) she had it for about 15 years before it was actually diagnosed properly, she has walking differculties now, and often loses her balance,
has weakness in her legs and hands,
we fought for 3-4 years to get her dla with appeals and refusals
i want to add - she actually deserves this money and is no fraud, scrounger, she worked uptill she was 60 and retired

Dont doubt it MS usually woks slowly people can be fine one day ****ed the next they usually depreciate over time,

Its not right that your mam struggled to get money their are many that dont with nothing wrong

My grandather in law applied 5 times (cant walk apparantly) he can like, and just got it on last year before 65 otherwise he would have had no entitlement

He applied on his own everytime he got refused, the last time he used citizens advice and got it straight away

Its one thing that does boil my pi55 tbh, if you dont do it riight it can affect your claim (even if you have real problems), but if you do it correctly even if you have no problems you can get it.

In response to tshirtmans post

I think it has to be like that unfortunately otherwise everybody would get it, and it does spoil in for the genuine but with persistence,actual medical evidence and using CAB to fill in forms correctly no real person should suffer (hopefully)

[Snowy79]

I think the Paraolympics highlighted what people with physical disabilities are capable of. As someone with a seriously disabled Daughter I see first hand the financial benefits of of DLA, careers allowance, Mobility etc and its a disgrace. Personally I'd rather the money was spent more in facilities and trained careers than going to the parents.

In the last 15 years I can safely say the majority claiming it use it for luxuries rather than necessities and due to every man and his dog trying it on there's not enough money left to keep a lot of facilities open and many careers have been laid off.

I know it's not fully tied in with the bedroom tax but it will have the same outcome. Too many are getting it that the budget can't cope. Eventually the money will run out and the brand new builds will be one run down as there's no money for repairs. Give it 5 years and they'll be complaining they've been let down by the government and demand new houses be built with no money to do it.

[gmb45]

this is my point the system is a complete mess, them who dont need it get it ( and theres 100s of 1000s of them ) and theres 1000s of peeps who should get it dont, weed all them out who shouldnt get it and it would more than pay for the shite bed tax, but as ive said the gov are afraid to have a proper go at this benefit because of the pc brigade. nothing much will be done about this benefit becuase its like a high profile benefit, the gov dont want to look like dicks if they get it wrong, which they probably would, like this bed tax mess.

[BigfatPaulie]

Re: Bedroom tax, new thread !

It's all a question of honesty... Lie and get anything, tell the truth and you'll get nothing.
It's leading by example though... The government exist on these principles alone, apparently the proles aren't allowed the same privilege.
This ****ry (no spelling mistake) is run by lying parasites...thousands of rich folk with highly paid "non" jobs, they know nothing of the real world.
They'll have concentration camps at this rate

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[Saltire]

Its great to see "My Thread" has pulled in 417 posts and 5,502 views so far after me not posting at all in many many months, thanks for that, its appreciated

BUT, its went way off topic for ages when really what we should be talking about "only" is the bedroom tax and how a person on basic benefits is expected to find "out of thier own pocket" approx ?50 per month for a 1 spare bedroom just because they happen to stay in a council house (that the council put them in).

The other point being, these people either cant turn on the heating at all or have a can of beans at end of week, thats the difference this illegal bedroom tax will mean to all people right across the board that are in such a position. (infact, most people on basic benefits are in that position right now, fact !)

Most people seem more interested in talking about slightly differing things and I personally feel that if you have anything else to mention apart from what I have repeatedly said then you should make your own thread and talk about all other unrelated subjects in there PLEASE.

Thank You.

[firemouth]

Re: Bedroom tax, new thread !

Its great to see "My Thread" has pulled in 417 posts and 5,502 views so far after me not posting at all in many many months, thanks for that, its appreciated

BUT, its went way off topic for ages when really what we should be talking about "only" is the bedroom tax and how a person on basic benefits is expected to find "out of thier own pocket" approx ?50 per month for a 1 spare bedroom just because they happen to stay in a council house (that the council put them in).

The other point being, these people either cant turn on the heating at all or have a can of beans at end of week, thats the difference this illegal bedroom tax will mean to all people right across the board that are in such a position. (infact, most people on basic benefits are in that position right now, fact !)

Most people seem more interested in talking about slightly differing things and I personally feel that if you have anything else to mention apart from what I have repeatedly said then you should make your own thread and talk about all other unrelated subjects in there PLEASE.

Thank You.

Well said.
The whole thing would make sense if it was not being done retrospectively.
I see no reason to object, if it had been done that way.
This excuse for a government keep pointing out that the same rules apply to private lets.
However that was none respective.

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