Bedroom tax, new thread !

[flyingpig]

If people have been assessed as not requiring DLA then they can work.

I spoke to a guy who had an issue with his legs, he had sore legs. Spoke to him and got more info, he had a defficiency at childhood which he said affected him and he couldnt stand for too long withtout the hurting. Now this p!ssed me right off, as he could do a desk job or work in a call centre, he cant be a postman - understable.

Now I play football every now and again, I turned up for the match on a pitch for a cup game, thought to myself - I recognise that fella..... Couldnt place him, then it clicked,, This was the b'stard who told me a few weeks ago that his legs hurt, and there he is playing left back!!!!!!

I am not one to generalise, and I know this is a one off, but this is the only case I am really aware of DLA and people disagreeing with personal experience, and I have seen the true result - the cheat can work, just doesnt want to.

[Saltire]

@ flyingpig.

I will ask you again.

Please explain again how someone on the long term sick that wont be able to work probably ever (but not on DLA), in other words, on the most basic benefits really, they have no kids and no other means of income. (and not fit for any type of work).

They cant afford to feed and heat just now, they dont have a spare 5p never mind ?50 per month.

Please tell me again how these people pay the money ?

[Diddy]

To the poster who suggested that this "tax" may be deducted at source - That may have been the case before april this year BUT you are forgetting that other fantastic idea that kicks in this year from April Universal Credits. All your benefits get paid direct to you and out of those benefits YOU the end client pay your own rent,council tax ect ect ect. Another change coming the way this April. Its all go for those pesky benefit recipients.

[Diddy]

I will ask you again.

Please explain again how someone on the long term sick that wont be able to work probably ever (but not on DLA), in other words, on the most basic benefits really, they have no kids and no other means of income. (and not fit for any type of work).

They cant afford to feed and heat just now, they dont have a spare 5p never mind ?50 per month.

Please tell me again how these people pay the money ?

WTF ? 1st post reposting the post above you ?

[Saltire]

WTF ? 1st post reposting the post above you ?

not me, I will report it.

Done !

[PremierD]

He has now left the building .......

[andy1967]

To the poster who suggested that this "tax" may be deducted at source - That may have been the case before april this year BUT you are forgetting that other fantastic idea that kicks in this year from April Universal Credits. All your benefits get paid direct to you and out of those benefits YOU the end client pay your own rent,council tax ect ect ect. Another change coming the way this April. Its all go for those pesky benefit recipients.

I will still give you the same answer, once the person gets behind with any rent or other, they will deduct the money before you get it paid to you.

[Saltire]

I will still give you the same answer, once the person gets behind with any rent or other, they will deduct the money before you get it paid to you.

As far as i heard that wont happen nowdays, those days are gone now mate.

[Saltire]

Housing Benefit - Quids In! Magazine

[flyingpig]

I can't answer you, because if you have been turned down for DLA you are able and fit enough to work!!

Why would someone who cannot work due disability not be on DLA?

If you are unable to work due to disability, you have access to DLA, why if you cant work would you not get DLA?

People are assessed by qualified proffesionals, not hearsay, or people in the pub, or freinds of friends passing on 5th hand info. Reality is, if you are assessed and turned down - get a job!!!

[Snowy79]

I'd imagine the Council or Housing Association will start moving lodgers into the properties rather than lose money. As a load of properties are now part of the Housing Association business plan I can't see them letting anyone off of paying. If they lose money they go out of business or repairs don't get carried out.

Chances are a judge will weigh up if the tenant has done everything in their power to pay and taking in a lodger is one option. A judge will argue that even if the lodger is a nutter there are laws to protect individuals if the nutter steps out of line.

Going slightly of topic but to give you an idea how the law and Parliament work. A well respected Locksmith Institute managed to get a face to face meeting in Parliament to bring in Licencing of Locksmiths to stop just anyone learning the trade or carrying the tools. The MPs were given plenty of examples of criminals learning the trade from unscupulous trainers and even examples where the training had been used to commit burglary etc. Two weeks after the meeting the Institute received a letter on official Paliament paper stating that as there was enough laws in place regarding breaking and entering, handling stolen goods., going equiped etc they would not bring in licensing.

If a tenant tries to argue they don't feel safe taking in a tenant you can bet they will argue that there are laws in place to protect the public so they wont have a leg to stand on.

[Saltire]

I can't answer you, because if you have been turned down for DLA you are able and fit enough to work!!

Why would someone who cannot work not be on DLA?

If you are unable to work, you have access to DLA, why if you cant work would you not get DLA?

People are assessed by qualified proffesionals, not hearsay, or people in the pub, or freinds of friends passing on 5th hand info. Reality is, if you are assessed and turned down - get a job!!!

thats none of your buisness mate (with respect), but I'm not even talking about me anyway, but people are entitled to make thier own decisions on what and how they apply for things.

so it brings me back to that simple question, where do these people find the money to pay ?

[PremierD]

I can't answer you, because if you have been turned down for DLA you are able and fit enough to work!!

Why would someone who cannot work not be on DLA?

If you are unable to work, you have access to DLA, why if you cant work would you not get DLA?

People are assessed by qualified proffesionals, not hearsay, or people in the pub, or freinds of friends passing on 5th hand info. Reality is, if you are assessed and turned down - get a job!!!

The owner of these bones was told to go out and work ...

[flyingpig]

The owner of these bones was told to go out and work ...

There will always be mistakes in every job or proffession. Show the person who hasnt made a mistake and I will show the person who has achieved nothing.

They look good to me, nothing a bit of WD40 would sort.

[tshirtman]

The owner of these bones was told to go out and work ...

and this blind woman!!

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/blind-chadderton-woman-ordered-back-1346646