Bulld0gs Liverpool Thread

[lfc4life]

Our season is over... hmmm the Fa cup! Hmmm correct me if i'm wrong here but this season we could only possibly win three things. We've got a good chance of winning two out of the three and your still whinging.

Well i hope you are right .... but i cant see it . but sorry cause i dont share the same opinion you are accusing me of moaning ???

[Bulld0g]

You seriuosly think this is not moaning? "its not working ... as much as we all love king kenny ! our season is over and a carling cup win. just doesnt cut it!
EVERTON will have a field day on tuesday"

[lfc4life]

yes i do l i know what i saw today that team needs gutting

[khan07958]

Not happy with the direction the club is going in the premiership.
We were incompetent today of the highest order dare I say we played worse than when we played Bolton.

The things that concern me about Kenny:
Summer signing overall have been a flop (Even fans with blinkers can see that)
What style do we play?
Counter attack?
Pass and move?
Containment game?
long ball?
I have to admit baffled as do not believe we have a style to be honest.
Would the owners trust Kenny in the transfer market again?
Why does it take so long for Kenny to make substitutes?
When games are crying out for changes early on. (Clearly Kenny can not see this)
Also concerned at how limited Kenny is with his tactics and change of formation.
Do 1-2 cups show progress?

Houllier won lots of cups but was Useless in the premiership.
Personally if Kenny's admits he made a co...k up this season we should give him one more season to put things right.
However if he is adamant out squad is good and nothing wrong, than its time to sack him!
27 points of Many city is beyond a joke and unacceptable.
5 Primer league points in 2012. (Disgrace)

Points per league game:
Woy - 1.25
Kenny - this season 1.44
Rafa - in season he was sacked 1.66

[lfc4life]

well said ....

[Bulld0g]

Not happy with the direction the club is going in the premiership.
We were incompetent today of the highest order dare I say we played worse than when we played Bolton.

The things that concern me about Kenny:
Summer signing overall have been a flop (Even fans with blinkers can see that)
What style do we play?
Counter attack?
Pass and move?
Containment game?
long ball?
I have to admit baffled as do not believe we have a style to be honest.
Would the owners trust Kenny in the transfer market again?
Why does it take so long for Kenny to make substitutes?
When games are crying out for changes early on. (Clearly Kenny can not see this)
Also concerned at how limited Kenny is with his tactics and change of formation.
Do 1-2 cups show progress?

Houllier won lots of cups but was Useless in the premiership.
Personally if Kenny's admits he made a co...k up this season we should give him one more season to put things right.
However if he is adamant out squad is good and nothing wrong, than its time to sack him!
27 points of Many city is beyond a joke and unacceptable.
5 Primer league points in 2012. (Disgrace)

Points per league game:
Woy - 1.25
Kenny - this season 1.44
Rafa - in season he was sacked 1.66

And another one starts to doubt and want the manager out after just over a year in charge. Fickle fans eh. Ahh well shall we bring back Rafa

[khan07958]

And another one starts to doubt and want the manager out after just over a year in charge. Fickle fans eh. Ahh well shall we bring back Rafa

As the above stat points per ratio prove Rafa in his last season had a better points per ratio.
Football has no room for sentiment and should be based on results.
We have no chance of finishing fourth (Which I predicted at the beginning of the season.)
What concerns me most is the limited progress we have made.
Do not mention the useless mickey mouse cup as progress, the team that won it last season is now in championship and the team that lost it are now 10 points ahead of us.
Ultimately progress should be based in the league and after spending ????? we have not improved.
Time for you to take you Blinkers off.

[Bulld0g]

As the above stat points per ratio prove Rafa in his last season had a better points per ratio.
Football has no room for sentiment and should be based on results.

So shall we entice him back? Why even mention him, he's in the past and a ~~~~in boring one at that too. We all have eyes and follow the game and see what's happening and has happened at the club in the recent past. We need stability first and foremost before we can move forward. One thing we don't need is fans who quote stats and figures and shite to undermine the manager.

Should we get rid of the manager during or after his first season in charge with one or possibly two trophies under his belt or should we be like the Chavs and sack every manager who doesn't win the League in the first season. Like i said, fickle fans. Are you suggesting he should go?

[zee24]

Who do you think the club will attract IF Kenny did go?

I bet some tool will say Mourinho like that's ever going to happen.

Im backing Kenny anyway, but would love to see Rafa back one day, but doubt i will get that wish as the yanks don't like Rafa.

[lfc4life]

the carling cup aint progress ... winning the F.A cup would be ! And out of all that money spent we rely on the same players to get us or try to get us out the mess we are further falling into

[Bulld0g]

Rafa played boring football apart from the second half of the season when we finished second in the League. I'm not lookin at future managers i'm not looking beyond the present one. Seriously one full season is ~~~~ all.

[Bulld0g]

the carling cup aint progress ... winning the F.A cup would be ! And out of all that money spent we rely on the same players to get us or try to get us out the mess we are further falling into

So if this squad win the Fa cup it's progress but if we finish runners up they're a failure? Why wouldn't you look at the season as a whole when it's over and then judge?

[maca]

Get behind the manager the players the club everything we are as one LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB. winning any cup is a sign of progress. encourgment is whats needed not a knocking crew ffs..

[Jaffa]

Sack Kenny....don't be fekkin daft and before I get accused of having blinkers or red coloured glasses on, it took Fergie 6 years to win the league, Oh how I wish their fickle fans had got their way when they called for his head........but they didn't and we all know how successful he became.

For those who say we havent improved...thats just being silly, we have won a trophy, it doesn't matter if you think it is a Mickey Mouse cup, it is without doubt a trophy.

We are also playing far better football than we have in years, we have been really unlucky in a lot of matches and really poor in some other matches (like today).

Today was hard to watch, we were not at it at all.

I don't know why people think a manager has to win the league immediately........I am really surprised and dissapointed we are so far off a CL spot but thats how it goes sometimes, we need a striker....we need a striker....we need a striker, we are creating the chances and not putting it away.

BTW.........Kenny won't need sacked, he will offer his head if he thinks it is for the best for the club, which I personally don't think it would be best at this time, he needs more time.

[khan07958]

So shall we entice him back? Why even mention him, he's in the past and a ~~~~in boring one at that too. We all have eyes and follow the game and see what's happening and has happened at the club in the recent past. We need stability first and foremost before we can move forward. One thing we don't need is fans who quote stats and figures and shite to undermine the manager.

Should we get rid of the manager during or after his first season in charge with one or possibly two trophies under his belt or should we be like the Chavs and sack every manager who doesn't win the League in the first season. Like i said, fickle fans. Are you suggesting he should go?

Lets get one thing straight here, in my eyes Kenny is a legend and grew up watching the great team of the 80`s that played some breath taking football.
Now lets get back to today and put all sentiments aside.
You say stats do not matter when in truth they do and give a fair idea of progress.
Wining the carling cup was supposed to give us confidence, I would argue it has had the opposite effect.
Sunderland were missing 2 influential players today, yet we were dire.

In 1994 under Souness the club finished 8th with 60 points and looks increasingly likely we will finish below that.
- So far we have had 5 points out of 24 in 2012 to date.
- 5 defeats, 2 draws and 1 win (last 8 games)
- projected points total based on season so far would be 54
I suppose there are 33 points still to play for and possible we could go on a run and win most of the remaining games, but where is the evidence this season we could go on a run like that!

Being realistic rather than living in denial like some fans, if this was anyone other than Kenny fans would be calling for his head.
Kenny has had stability with supportive owners, money to spend, No European football so could concentrate on premiership.
Also a poor Chelsea team and Arsenal who have been poor compared to previous years.
After nearly 1.5 years in a job our points per game average is 1.44 compared to woy which was 1.25.
Harry inherited Totttenham from a similar position to us and guided them to champions league in similar time.
Rafa may have played boring football as you call it but gave us a European cup.
His boring style gave us more goals compared to our great attacking play currently.
I am not really concerned with what they do at other clubs like Chavs etc with there managers.
What concerns me is the mediocrity we have had this season.
For me Kenny should only be given another season if he admits he fuc...d up with his signings and will not repeat the same mistakes next season.

Last Jan we were crying out for a right winger and a striker even on loan to help us push forward.
Nothing was done and we are struggling with a limited squad.
Gerrard would usually save us but due to injury's and age over the yrs is not the same player.
Kenny plays Adam as a holding midfielder which he is not and Henderson as a right winger which again he is not.
We are also missing our influential player ie Lucas and have no one at the club to replace him.
Spearing is very limited in what he can do.
This was perfect time for Kenny to give youth a chance like Susso,Sterling etc.
Which he has failed to do, like I said earlier if Kenny still believes his squad is good after spending ?115 million and winning a Carling cup, than he should be given the sack.
We are playing slightly better football than before but lets be honest its hardly Man U in the 90`s ie fast counter attacking football or Barcelona.
Personally Roy Evans team played better football.
Commoli`s role should be also questioned as he had input in transfers this summer.