Vu+ Uno and Vu+ Duo Clones to be released by the end of the month

[dave-h]

and as for other ppl say i would pay the extra ?80 to get another genuine one you show me were you can get a gen vu duo for ?300 delivered and I will deffo say you are wrong. totall bollox no were for less than ?330 delivered.

Whats with the attitude? I was perfectly polite, just pointing out my reasoning for not buying a clone, and your entitled to diasgree with it, but no need for the attitude.

Ok so they've gone up ?20 since i last checked - But you can still get an original for ?319 delivered from a UK supplier. So you're wrong too, they can be had for less than ?330

I'd personally pay the extra.

[RuberDuck]

I can tell you right now catagorically that no ViX image will ever contain a bomb for any box, although we will never support any forum of cloned hardware. what other teams will or wont do is their business, as for Vu what will they do to safeguard their hardware is any ones guess but almost every image is either built from the original Vu image or they rely on Vu for their patches and this includes BH, PLI, VTI and many many more.

just look at some recent drivers issued by Vu and you will see.

20111229

- Add security enhancement
- Reduce FPGA update time(uno, ultimo)
- Improve recording

what that could be is any ones guess, but would you honestly blame them for protecting their investment ?.

[RuberDuck]

I have used nextbay for a few years not the best chinese company in my opinion but honest enough to rely upon. it cost me ?14 to send back a box to china via royal mail. so dont talk bollock about know what a company is like. I stand by what I said. and as for other ppl say i would pay the extra ?80 to get another genuine one you show me were you can get a gen vu duo for ?300 delivered and I will deffo say you are wrong. totall bollox no were for less than ?330 delivered.

I can show you where you can get one brand spanking new for ?314 right now and delivered usually within 2 days free of charge and another dozen places to get it for ?319.

And yes i do know what i am talking about.

[mdt]

if you look about you can get a duo for ?300... on ebay theres a couple at ?309. personally id rather pay a little extra when spending that kind of money and use a u.k. source with a good rep. im my eyes a clone really needs to be 50% cheaper than the original although as its just come out id say ?180 maxx. ive got a original duo although ive been um,ing and r,ing about getting a solo clone just to see what there like... imho if you can afford a original then get one, if not then be prepared to right the clone off if something goes wrong. regards mdt

[redondo5]

I have used nextbay for a few years not the best chinese company in my opinion but honest enough to rely upon. it cost me ?14 to send back a box to china via royal mail. so dont talk bollock about know what a company is like. I stand by what I said. and as for other ppl say i would pay the extra ?80 to get another genuine one you show me were you can get a gen vu duo for ?300 delivered and I will deffo say you are wrong. totall bollox no were for less than ?330 delivered.

Look, you've had to pay ?14 and hope it gets there and they accept. Even a (add insult here) person like you must admit, there's significant risk involved in doing that, when you're dealing with a company in china, when purchasing a clone for more than ?200? Maybe I was wrong in saying it would be a complete write off but for many people that would be the case, not many would want to take the risk of sending back a ?200 clone box to china hoping for a refund.

And you can pick up genuine vu+ duo from really good sellers from the eu. Especially with the euro in decline. An Estonian seller with brilliant service and feedback would be far more trustworthy than a Chinese company. All for sub ?300.

Like I said earlier, clone duo worth it for ?200 or less, if prove to be stable and if the risk of shipping is removed.

[garry1312]

Right I have never been against clone receivers, my list of receivers to the left says as much.

Personally I would not purchase this receiver, the reason I purchase Dreambox clones is because yow cave more than a few hundred over the original. If I was only saving ?100 for instance on a SE clone compared to the original I would put that bit extra by and go for the original.

As for it being risky ordering from China, I believe its as risky as anywhere, it is all about finding the right seller. I have used L&W for all my clones apart from one 500s and never had any problems I have also ordered receivers for others and no problems the quality is always good. I asked Ruby this morning about the Duo clone to which I was adviced they are still not selling it yet which makes me wonder why they are unsure about selling it yet. But yes if there is a problem you will need to send it back and the cost will be on you.

Also read that Vu+ have added measurements to there latest drivers to stop the clone receivers (and so they should they need to protect there product) this will mean only being able to install previous images before the date of the latest drivers. So if you purchase one of these receivers you are going to have a receiver that will be running on outdated images.

I just purchased my first original receiver, I went with the Xtrend ET9200, decided against the Vu+ as I see so many people going for them, I thought it looked better and it has a slightly better spec than the Duo. Well I have to say I wish I had done it sooner I bought from WOS service from them has been fantastic. I am running the ViX image now normally when I get a receiver I have to try loads of images before finding one thats right for me this was not the case its just fantastic.

Also the support I have had from the ViX team has been fantastic, very helpful and very eager to get you sorted if you are having a problem. May I note the problems I was having was my own fault down to not using my brain, I blame it on the holiday drinks .

If you want a Vu+ Duo go with the original. Vu+ and Clarke-Tech (Xtrend) are very reasonable when it comes to there prices unlike Dream. You will also have a receiver that you can use the latest images on and excellent support from ViX image team if that is the image you use.

Last but not least if you are going to buy the clone model hold off the now it is just out there is no feedback out there on it. If you buy right now you are testing it at your own risk.

[dragonevo]

To expensive you only pay a little more for a orginal box not worth it.


If they had the prices like the dreambox clones it was no problem for me to buy one..

[garry1312]

Thats what I am getting at there is no huge saving, the Duo original is a reasonable price, the clone has not even been properly tested yet, already more up to date images will not work on it.

Why sell yourself short when for a little more you can have top quality, no worry about what image to use, be able to use the latest images and have more piece of mind if anything goes wrong?

[lombard]

agree if the price comes down on vu duo clone, and you start getting patched latest images like the dreambox, then would go for it,

its only just come out so it does need some time,

i myself got a vu duo ?309 in del, if clone was ?150 mark with latest images being patched for it, id go for it,

[garry1312]

Even if it was ?150 I would still not be interested in it.

Ok you are saving lets say ?160 (a Dream clone you are saving hundreds) but with that saving you loose the support from the image teams.

I am happy with my Dream clones but there is a huge difference in price compared to the original and I have not tried any image that is as stable and runs so well as the ViX image. So they patch it who says it is going to run as well? I tried a ViX image before on my SE (converted or whatever to work on it) thought it was a terrible image got my Xtrend and running the genuine image and I was blown away.

I am not trying to put people off buying them the end of the day if someone is set on getting it there going to get it but my opinion is for say ?100-?150 more you can have the real deal, you can communicate with your chosen image team and you know exactly what is going in to your receiver and you dont need to worry about what image will work and what wont or will a image brick your receiver.

[sakiblateef]

Also read that Vu+ have added measurements to there latest drivers to stop the clone receivers (and so they should they need to protect there product) this will mean only being able to install previous images before the date of the latest drivers. So if you purchase one of these receivers you are going to have a receiver that will be running on outdated images.

I have read the new images with new drivers are being re-coded to work with the clone boxes.

I don't think they will rule anything out but I would still wait and see what happens.

[garry1312]

I have read the new images with new drivers are being re-coded to work with the clone boxes.

I don't think they will rule anything out but I would still wait and see what happens.

Then who says they will function as well?

[RuberDuck]

I have read the new images with new drivers are being re-coded to work with the clone boxes.

I don't think they will rule anything out but I would still wait and see what happens.

as far as i can see it will be a fight all the way between Vu and the cloners to get new working images and patches on the OEM boxes. i'm not saying they wont achieve it but think of the innocent user who buys a clone thinking it original then ends up with a dead box because he tried a new image on his receiver.

Vu are going to do every thing in their power to kill off clones and i cant really blame them for that as there protecting their investment. i only hope those buying these boxes do it fully knowing what there buying and know the risks involved.

[alom5]

the ?220 price definately prices them away from the clone market in my opinion.

can't compare with dream clones as the support is brilliant and images are coming out almost daily.

i don't think you'll get the same sort of support as these boxes won't be as popular.

i nearly bought th extrend et9000 before i bought my first dm clone....(near ?400 at that time).but decided didn't need a twin tuner so went for the dm800 clones and am very happy with them so far....

back to the clone vu duo....way too pricey!!!!!!

[garry1312]

the ?220 price definately prices them away from the clone market in my opinion.

can't compare with dream clones as the support is brilliant and images are coming out almost daily.

i don't think you'll get the same sort of support as these boxes won't be as popular.

i nearly bought th extrend et9000 before i bought my first dm clone....(near ?400 at that time).but decided didn't need a twin tuner so went for the dm800 clones and am very happy with them so far....

back to the clone vu duo....way too pricey!!!!!!

Yeah as I said mate the Dream clones are understandable because there is a huge price difference.

I cant see these Duo clones doing to well because anyone with sense will think 'hold on for not much more I can have a original'.

You wouldnt have went wrong with the ET9000 mate, I got the newer ET9200 last week and I have fallen in love with it, best receiver I have owned to date even if it didnt have a twin tuner I would still feel the same. I praised my SE clone highly and I still do praise them but this is just in another legue.