Is this the End or The End is Nigh

**wadey1457** · 22 April, 2013, 16:26

Originally posted by sakiblateef

My card received an update today in Oscam and I lost all premium channels. I had a pace box in the loft and thought I'd get the card paired to that to test whether the card will clear movies and sports again in the server. Got the card paired and it cleared all channels in the Pace box but when I put it back in the server box the Sly Sports & Movies still do not work but all other channels clear.

So pairing an HD card to an SD box will not bring back the premium channels despite it clearing in the SD receiver.

was you due an ent update?

**sakiblateef** · 22 April, 2013, 16:30

Originally posted by wadey1457

was you due an ent update?

My card had updated successfully last week it was a repeat emm as no entitlement dates had been changed. For those who's card are still working might want to disable the emm updates and the card should last till the entitlement run out which is usually about 2 months. All cards belonging to HD boxes will be going off regardless.

**wadey1457** · 22 April, 2013, 16:40

any one got entitlemnt past 18th june?

**Rodbouy** · 22 April, 2013, 17:01

Saki what box was that card originally paired too ?

**sakiblateef** · 22 April, 2013, 17:21

Originally posted by Rodbouy

Saki what box was that card originally paired too ?

Amstrad 890.

**waj_uk** · 22 April, 2013, 17:31

If someone took out a sub this year surely the engineer would have used the new pairing for the card in which case are these cards safe?

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**Rodbouy** · 22 April, 2013, 17:56

Nothing to do with the engineer tho. They are working their way down the cards.

Would be interesting to see if boxes with no talk back die and require a re pair to bring channels back on originals boxes.

**scudno1** · 22 April, 2013, 18:01

tier	0963	1970-01-01	2013-06-21	0963:000000 unknown
tier	0963	1970-01-01	2013-06-21	0963:000000 unknown
tier	0963	1970-01-01	2013-06-21	0963:000000 unknown
tier	0963	1970-01-01	2013-06-21	0963:000000 unknown
tier	0963	1970-01-01	2013-06-21	0963:000000 unknown
tier	0963	1970-01-01	2013-06-21	0963:000000 unknown
tier	0963	1970-01-01	2013-06-21	0963:000000 unknown
tier	0963	1970-01-01	2013-06-21	0963:000000 unknown
tier	0963	1970-01-01	2013-06-21	0963:000000 unknown
tier	0963	1970-01-01	2013-06-21	0963:000000 unknown
tier	0963	1970-01-01	2013-06-21	0963:000000 unknown
tier	0963	1970-01-01	2013-06-21	0963:000000 unknown
tier	0963	1970-01-01	2013-06-21	0963:000000 unknown
tier	0963	1970-01-01	2013-06-21	0963:000000 unknown
tier	0963	1970-01-01	2013-06-21	0963:000000 unknown
tier	0963	1970-01-01	2013-06-21	0963:000000 unknown
tier	0963	1970-01-01	2013-06-21	0963:000000 unknown
tier	0963	1970-01-01	2013-06-21	0963:000000 unknown
tier	0963	1970-01-01	2013-06-21	0963:000000 unknown
tier	0963	1970-01-01	2013-06-21	0963:000000 unknown

i got these updates early hours of this morning in oscam my dates before these where 2013-05-06
ive added 0`s at the end of the tier info just incase,my box is a amstrad 890 with new software.

**Rodbouy** · 22 April, 2013, 19:35

So does the card still work or not ? box model card was originally paired to ?

**scudno1** · 22 April, 2013, 19:42

yes all fine the box is a amstrad 890 i got installed on febuary 2013

**wadey1457** · 22 April, 2013, 19:47

so your up to 21/06/13 ?

**scudno1** · 22 April, 2013, 19:52

yes 21.06.2013

**aldo20569** · 22 April, 2013, 21:29

(a quote i got from a hi-tech server guy)-
Like I said before alot of servers use the same oscam version then get the same unknown bug then you hear "there's something happening" in the years we have been doing it its been the same stuff mate, things get posted and spread! What you have to remember is there is only so much they can do before they have to send new boxes out to cope with such rubbish and that would cost millions so look at it in the real world. On another note those who are having troubles I bet/guarantee they haven't got all the security set up ;-)

We've had the update and ours is going great, the problem they have is letting Oscam update the cards now they could be getting dead emms to their cards

It's total nonsense there was a massive talk and gossip about things like that but it has been for the last 4 years. The reason for some Oscam servers not being able to open channels is due to so many new servers who haven't got a clue how to keep up with updates etc.
loads of servers have trouble with the sports channels ATM not opening well this is another factor and perfect show off how you run your servers.

this is conversation i had might be of some use to some

**thecheekymonkey** · 22 April, 2013, 22:47

Originally posted by aldo20569

(a quote i got from a hi-tech server guy)-
Like I said before alot of servers use the same oscam version then get the same unknown bug then you hear "there's something happening" in the years we have been doing it its been the same stuff mate, things get posted and spread! What you have to remember is there is only so much they can do before they have to send new boxes out to cope with such rubbish and that would cost millions so look at it in the real world. On another note those who are having troubles I bet/guarantee they haven't got all the security set up ;-)

We've had the update and ours is going great, the problem they have is letting Oscam update the cards now they could be getting dead emms to their cards

It's total nonsense there was a massive talk and gossip about things like that but it has been for the last 4 years. The reason for some Oscam servers not being able to open channels is due to so many new servers who haven't got a clue how to keep up with updates etc.
loads of servers have trouble with the sports channels ATM not opening well this is another factor and perfect show off how you run your servers.

this is conversation i had might be of some use to some

whos had trouble opening sports channels? , i think he is just hoping for the best mate. its a fact so far. end of the day i dont think this guy even understands how the cards update , no security features can STOP an update. (what i mean is you have to update sooner or later)

you have two choices.

turn updates off untill its a week or two before its your time then enable them to update, but if your unique emms come through and knock your card what are you going to do? nothing, nothin you can do.

other option is to update your card in the original box. but as has been shown when it is your time, its your time nothing you can do so far.

his servers going great, good for him for now............

end of the day they seem to be doing it in lots as has been shown some peoples card have updated and been fine, some have updated and not been fine.

end of the day we can only really speculate and the take into account all the circumstantial evidence as we will never know the full story...

peoples cards are being knocked off in oscam even though entitlements should allow otherwise.
new cards are being paired with the new pairing method

some peoples cards are updating fine in original box and can still be read
some peoples cant still be read

anyways

i`ll confirm what sakiblateef has stated tomorrow, might as well try nothing to loose and will only back things up....

incidently i had read this on another forum..

This has happened to me guys I had two card that have worked using oscam for years now but the other day my cards had no entitlements
as if they had been wiped.

I then went to my original box to update the cards and all channels were now active so I took the cards back out the original box and placed them in the oscam box but now the cards are only opening SD entertainment channels and no movies sport or HD.

*** must have impaired my card which ment I had no.other option.but to put the cards in the original box to repair.

So for days I have changed oscam versions I have flashed boxes changed con figs pulled my hair out as all this setup has worked for years and now its not.

"So I had an old pace sd box in the cupboard and thought I would try pairing all my cards to the old pace box via the activate my card website from ***
After pairing my cards to the pace box the cards work again in oscam but the only down bit is there's no HD

So if your cards are caught with the new software update pair them to an old box to get them running again hope this helps"

**schnecke1** · 22 April, 2013, 22:48

hi
thanks for your statement.
but
1. how can i update the card in our situation if not in oscam?
2. what security configs do you mean?
i set au - 0
even all the block emms are - 1 for now until 1 week before entitlements run out begin june
3. are there in newer versions more security options? my oscam is quiet old, but runs smooth like oiled.
any advantage in newer versions?
thanks for any reply
schnecke

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