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  • digicon
    V.I.P. Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 8261

    #721
    Originally posted by beastman
    Newbie question guys. I have an active paired thomson box but was thinking of cancelling sky as the footy season is now pretty much over. Is there any benefit likely in keeping my subscription live with these old thomson boxes in view of the possible encryption changes?

    Look at it this way if your out of contract which if you have a Thompson HD box you will be then your on a 30 day rolling contract with $ly, which means you can keep going for as long as possible or until they swap out your box and make you have it re-paired so to speak or cancel now and save some money

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    • beastman
      Newbie
      • May 2008
      • 3

      #722
      Originally posted by digicon
      Look at it this way if your out of contract which if you have a Thompson HD box you will be then your on a 30 day rolling contract with $ly, which means you can keep going for as long as possible or until they swap out your box and make you have it re-paired so to speak or cancel now and save some money
      yes i was wondering though if having an older live and active box would be an advantage in any way, seen as they seem so keen to obsolete them!

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      • mickm1
        Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 46

        #723
        Originally posted by sakiblateef
        My card received an update today in Oscam and I lost all premium channels. I had a pace box in the loft and thought I'd get the card paired to that to test whether the card will clear movies and sports again in the server. Got the card paired and it cleared all channels in the Pace box but when I put it back in the server box the Sly Sports & Movies still do not work but all other channels clear.

        So pairing an HD card to an SD box will not bring back the premium channels despite it clearing in the SD receiver.
        I will be trying this in next hour or 2 so will report back with the outcome of my efforts

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        • jamesyboyjim
          Junior Member
          • Mar 2012
          • 23

          #724
          From what I've read, pairing the card to an SD box using sly's pairmycard website will bring back premium SD content but HD will still be lost in your 3rd party receivers

          When you look at just how large the sharing business is With sly uk cards its a wonder that it's taken as long as it has for the powers that be to take action.

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          • sakiblateef
            DK Veteran
            • Jul 2008
            • 311

            #725
            Originally posted by jamesyboyjim
            From what I've read, pairing the card to an SD box using sly's pairmycard website will bring back premium SD content but HD will still be lost in your 3rd party receivers
            Its not as simple as that. As soon as you input the details of an SD box online their system recognises your card is paired to a HD box and will not let the card pair to the box. The only way to pair it is to ring them up but good luck in explaining to them why you need to pair your card to an SD box.

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            • the rock
              Top Poster +
              • Dec 2009
              • 217

              #726
              Do you think that pay systems and Chinese clone box makers are going not to try stop this due to loss of revenues and as said its a game of cat and mouse if its gone its gone so be patience and see what happens so no one knows
              Last edited by the rock; 25 April, 2013, 13:51.

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              • digicon
                V.I.P. Member
                • Jul 2009
                • 8261

                #727
                Originally posted by the rock
                Do you think that pay servers and Chinese clone box makers are going not to try stop this due to loss of revenues and as said its a game of cat and mouse if its gone its gone so be patience and see what happens so no one knows

                here we go again @the rock please read this post here : http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums...ml#post1943803 before you contribute anything more to this thread, this applys to every other member as well do not and i repeat please do not for the love of this thread include anything in your post that relates to the highlighted text in RED. in other words do not use that term or this thread will close

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                • jamesyboyjim
                  Junior Member
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 23

                  #728
                  Originally posted by sakiblateef
                  Its not as simple as that. As soon as you input the details of an SD box online their system recognises your card is paired to a HD box and will not let the card pair to the box. The only way to pair it is to ring them up but good luck in explaining to them why you need to pair your card to an SD box.
                  Totally understand what your saying but you yourself mentioned it was possible elsewhere, how did you get round them?

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                  • manxspud
                    DK Veteran
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 1768

                    #729
                    Think your expecting to much tbh ... think of it more like a bandwagon that's been jumped on to death ... those with the actual know how to do the legwork needed are in a very small minority ...

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                    • blueflash234
                      DK Veteran
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 904

                      #730
                      When you look at just how large the sharing business is With sly uk cards its a wonder that it's taken as long as it has for the powers that be to take action.[/QUOT

                      the uk is a very small market if the clone manufactors dont sell here i would not think it would impact there business,look at it another way now's the time to learn the other languagage you have always wanted to learn

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                      • jamesyboyjim
                        Junior Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 23

                        #731
                        Originally posted by blueflash234
                        When you look at just how large the sharing business is With sly uk cards its a wonder that it's taken as long as it has for the powers that be to take action.[/QUOT

                        the uk is a very small market if the clone manufactors dont sell here i would not think it would impact there business,look at it another way now's the time to learn the other languagage you have always wanted to learn
                        haha yeah I guess your right, the UK is but a small drop in the European (and beyond) ocean

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                        • techtechnique
                          Newbie
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 12

                          #732
                          Originally posted by sakiblateef
                          Like I said if Oscam were to sort out the problem with other NDS providers they would have done so. If Oscam were backed by NDS competitors they would have had a solution to all the packages I have mentioned as competitors would throw a lot of money into it to get a solution so this cannot be the case. As for the white cards being done within a week then that info would have been given to them by hackers/coders or they got the code from cccam.
                          Originally posted by wadey1457
                          what other pay tv do nds provide encryption to? apart from news corp companys
                          The difference is that in the case of $ly/ND$ v OnDigital, $ly had a vested interest in bringing about the demise of OnDigital, as they were a genuine rival that had market share. B$lyB are now largely UNrivalled, so there is no competitor out there willing to throw the necessary resources at h@cking the new encryption.

                          They have the monopoly and any upstarting Co is either bought up by Murdoch's empire or crushed by its' might.

                          I always thought competition was a healthy thing but to these people global domination is the prize.

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                          Last edited by digicon; 25 April, 2013, 16:23. Reason: Changed well Known provider name

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                          • Rodbouy
                            DK Veteran
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 1320

                            #733
                            As much as some people say that the UK market is small that's not true, its probably one of the most sought after cards In The European market. People need to realise that should this card fall then other major nds cards will follow with the same security measures.

                            NDS have a fair amount of enemies and stood on a lot of toes. So just because there is no direct rival in the UK means nothing. People will be queuing up to take a boot at them.


                            As for hacking the card, thats not going to happen but enabling cs will always be possible for aslong as their is cards. But cardless boxes is too much of a cost short term.
                            Last edited by Rodbouy; 25 April, 2013, 20:42.

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                            • micflair
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 275

                              #734
                              So I'm torn now, between leaving AU on and getting my entitlements wiped or turning it off.. Currently running up to mid June. What's everyone else doing?

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                              • Rodbouy
                                DK Veteran
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 1320

                                #735
                                Depends on what box its paired too I guess. 890 895 then id leave it off until the final 2 weeks. Not heard of any cards that are paired to a older box going off yet.

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