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benzstop
9th August, 2012, 04:20 PM
after owning my avdi for 2 1/2 years, i had some trouble with it and it was replaced at no charge.I have no worrries about the product as their service is always excellent. I am sure that replacing the battery is a must at some point but the prices on hardware and cables are always inexpensive, the software on the other hand is more costly but that is what the charge and no one holds a gun to your head to buy it. I love my avdi and it has paid for itself many times over, so i view it as a valid investment.I work with oem tools on a daily basis and they too have bugs, what tool does'nt? At the end of the day, the support is good and the tool is always being updated.
whalla
10th August, 2012, 03:36 PM
has anyone tried to crack special functions on a basic package
PremierD
10th August, 2012, 03:40 PM
has anyone tried to crack special functions on a basic package
lol lol Have you actually read the thread mate ... ?
drakov
10th August, 2012, 05:34 PM
hehehehhee
mikeslocks
14th August, 2012, 03:26 AM
They released a software for vw/audi that gives you just the cs and password for 600+ euro or pounds plus the cost of the avdi unit (activa clones units are less than 200 now runs the same software as avdi except brp buds).. There is other devices out their for 500 usd that does the same thing by xhorse for the cs and password.
nazz2
14th August, 2012, 10:06 AM
Mike,have you got any link to the avdi new soft,i cant find it ,thnx m8.
Fallen
14th August, 2012, 11:23 AM
They released a software for vw/audi that gives you just the cs and password for 600+ euro or pounds plus the cost of the avdi unit (activa clones units are less than 200 now runs the same software as avdi except brp buds).. There is other devices out their for 500 usd that does the same thing by xhorse for the cs and password.
Whats the name of the AVDI module that reads CS and Pass?
I think the tool from X-horse can only read cluster, not ECU, where AVDI can read CS from either cluster or ECU.
I could be wrong though but i'm pretty sure thats right.
benzstop
19th August, 2012, 06:18 PM
has anyone tried to crack special functions on a basic package
I have done so on several occasions,works great!!!!! I just crack my wallet open any pay for special functions then they work!!!!! amazing that i am so brilliant, I am amazed by myself and all the others who have done it this way!!! paying someone for their work, what a novel idea:beerglass:
impactops
20th August, 2012, 02:39 AM
I just crack my wallet open any pay for special functions then they work!!!!!
As long as you're prepared to keep cracking that wallet open, then that's great.
Regards
Impactops
sbaffi
20th August, 2012, 03:38 PM
I have owned AVDI for two years and no battery problem so far. I use mostly for my car retrofits and on some friends'.
Going back to some of the topics posted earlier, I always dealt with Voskan and gotta say that he has never been so mean with my dumb :) questions, and has always quite fast in helping me solving big problems.
KAP diagnostic, on the other hand, have been quite unpolite by kicking me out of their forum without a single word for not sending them some log files.
AVDI is neither cheap nor perfect, or even bug-free but it has always delivered.
dontzapit
21st August, 2012, 08:25 AM
KAP diagnostic, on the other hand, have been quite unpolite by kicking me out of their forum without a single word for not sending them some log files.
KAP Diagnostics kicked me off there AVDI forum aswell, they are doing it to lots of people, if you say one thing they dont like on there forum your gone and your not coming back. :roflmao::roflmao:
impactops
21st August, 2012, 12:24 PM
if you say one thing they dont like on there forum your gone and your not coming back
I would have a life ban then and extradited to sweden where US officials will be waiting
Regards
Impactops
dontzapit
21st August, 2012, 12:46 PM
I would have a life ban then and extradited to sweden where US officials will be waiting
Regards
Impactops
:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
impactops
21st August, 2012, 03:12 PM
KAP diagnostic, on the other hand, have been quite unpolite by kicking me out of their forum without a single word for not sending them some log files
Did they request log's for no apparent reason or was it to try and fix a problem you were having?
Regards
Impactops
sbaffi
21st August, 2012, 04:04 PM
Did they request log's for no apparent reason or was it to try and fix a problem you were having?
Regards
Impactops
Hi Impact...I was having a problem with the AN035 module and I asked advice in the KAP forum knowing some of the people already used it.
I also vented my disappointment for a piece of sw that costed me 1800 euros and did not work. The moderators started bitching on my comment right away while asking for the logs.
Since I purchased the license from Voskan I contacted him and he requested the logs to look into the problem and fix it, which happened in less than 3 days.
I did not buy the module from Kap, so why should I have given them the logs in first place, even considering their attitude?
impactops
21st August, 2012, 06:03 PM
I did not buy the module from Kap, so why should I have given them the logs in first place, even considering their attitude?
I believe not giving the logs was a smart move, i wouldn't of given the logs either.I believe the logs contain security information specific to each device.
From Kap's point of view you didn't purchase the device from them so why would they bother to help you, in there eyes they would see you as a pontential customer to steer you away from voskan for any future purchases.This all falls back on abritus, the technical support should not be provided by sales reps from the distributor, it should be provided by technicians from abritus.They should have their own forum where they allocate technicians (not sales reps) to answer queries or problems that any customer might have.
The other interesting point that's raised here, is that if KAP are prepared to ban people from there support forum who are disgruntled about any aspect of the device, then you can argue that those people that have purchased the device have no choice but to always say positive things about the product or risk loosing their support.
Regards
Impactops
drakov
21st August, 2012, 07:27 PM
I have no issues sending logs to my supplier (in this case KAP), they dont do anything with the logs other than pass them onto abritus afaik, I would also think a faster fix/reply would come that way than if I emailed abritus direct but that's just my view
From Kap's point of view you didn't purchase the device from them so why would they bother to help you
In general they do help if they can, no matter where the device or license was purchased, but in many cases and they dont have an answer they will tell the user to send logs to there supplier.
They should have their own forum where they allocate technicians (not sales reps) to answer queries or problems that any customer might have.
Having been on kap's forum for a few months now I hope to god that never happens, if you read some of the posts you would understand why, that's no fault to the poster, kap, or abritus, I blame google translate lol... you only have to look around dk or any other forum that caters for multi nationalities on an english speaking forum
The other interesting point that's raised here, is that if KAP are prepared to ban people from there support forum who are disgruntled about any aspect of the device, then you can argue that those people that have purchased the device have no choice but to always say positive things about the product or risk loosing their support.
Sadly the negative viewpoints we see are always going to be one sided (unless someone from kap is prepared to answer them back) we will never know for sure, I have seen them do it on another forum that is no longer with us...
A good example is already on this forum, we have one member who has not got a single good thing to say about abritus, he will slate it every chance he gets even to this day, worse product he ever bought so bad he demanded a full refund (which he got), what he hasn't said is that he went back and bought another and spent thousands on licenses, yet still slates it ..... mind you he also did the same with another product, that was until the owner of it came here and gave him an anal roasting and explained his side of the story, who knows maybe that's what kap need to do also?
obdmaster
21st August, 2012, 07:46 PM
""the technical support should not be provided by sales reps from the distributor, it should be provided by technicians from abritus.They should have their own forum where they allocate technicians (not sales reps) to answer queries or problems that any customer might have."""
Kapdiagnostics has naheem, for technical backup. This guy is very clued up on abritus products. He is himself an auto locksmith not a sales rep , person for sales there is salim (naheems brother). But for technical backup on the end of the phone , you cant beat naheem always there to help, with great attitude towards customers.
totalkey
21st August, 2012, 08:40 PM
that is true
Bishop c4
22nd August, 2012, 01:11 AM
I second that for sure
impactops
22nd August, 2012, 01:59 AM
Sadly the negative viewpoints we see are always going to be one sided (unless someone from kap is prepared to answer them back) we will never know for sure, I have seen them do it on another forum that is no longer with us...
Why isn't KAP prepared to answer back?
Why are they banning people from their support forum if customers have a legitimate complaint?
Why is even Abritus allowing this to occur??
This isn't a toaster, people aren't inquiring on how to set the temperature so they don't burn their bread.
I have known about customers being banned from KAP's support forum prior to it being mentioned.If i had raised it, it would of being dismissed by their supporters as not being true, where now it's coming from customers with legitement complaints.Customers that were fearful of airing their grievances on the grounds that they might loose their support.
Trying to suppress any legitement grievances instead of addressing them will only make matters worse.
Regards
Impactops
drakov
22nd August, 2012, 03:20 AM
Why isn't KAP prepared to answer back?
Why should they? Would The seller's of any other tool reply to a similiar thread about there product?
Why are they banning people from their support forum if customers have a legitimate complaint?
Your assuming everyone that has been banned has a 'legitimate' reason?
Why is even Abritus allowing this to occur??
Because it's not there forum?
Customers that were fearful of airing their grievances on the grounds that they might loose their support.
I have seen many posts where customers new and old have questioned many things, many resolved in the same thread, some after updates and some not at all, those members are still there and still posting
To suggest that if you say anything bad on there forum you will be banned is laughable
drakov
22nd August, 2012, 03:36 AM
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f177/avdi-users-questions-190639/index18.html#post1666521
Just curious, what username did you have I'll look up your old posts, also when did you join (an approx date will do).......
sbaffi
22nd August, 2012, 09:09 AM
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f177/avdi-users-questions-190639/index18.html#post1666521
Just curious, what username did you have I'll look up your old posts, also when did you join (an approx date will do).......
I always use sbaffi, either DK or audiforum.us or whatever.
The period is May, before I moved to the UK; you will find the specific post under AN035.
Cheers
obdmaster
22nd August, 2012, 09:40 AM
Impactops why must you go on and on, about abritus?? Its like you have a personally vendetta against them I really dont understand as you have never ever owned an AVDI. So why have this VENDETTA with this company??? Is it because you maybe work on similar product and dont like competition???
I just dont understand why you have such views , being neither AVDI owner, KAP customer, or ABRITUS customer. But you seem to have taken it upon yourself to have a vendetta with these two companys WEIRD!!!!
I am AVDI owner , KAP customer and ABRITUS customer and have first hand experience with all 3 (unlike you). And I like many others, have nothing but praise for all three.
JIMMYQ
22nd August, 2012, 02:46 PM
I am AVDI owner , KAP customer and ABRITUS customer and have first hand experience with all 3 (unlike you). And I like many others, have nothing but praise for all three.
same here all 3 are excellent just cant understand some people
ajayrao
22nd August, 2012, 03:35 PM
Hello
I think there should be an end to be put to this discussion,i dont understand why people cry over non issues such as battery,would you hesitate to buy a cell phone with the fear that one day battery will expire ,which will eventually happen one day and may need replacement,as far as as Avdi is concerned ,i had bmw comander,toyota comander and hitag2 and vag packages,which was then eventually upgraded to avdi ,iam one of the frst customers to own their products,and dont regret a bit that i bought such expensive tools,i feel that if u have clients and u want to be best and give them best service u have to have good tools or u will end up like a barber without razor,one example is i bought skc when was 5000 now is 550,should i stop my business thinking that oh i lost big money,i recovered my money that is enough for me and moreover could satisy my customer needs ,i agree avdi is not meant for guys who receive a car for special work once in a month ,logically u will never make money be it avdi or any other tool ,pls note that iam no way abritus dealer ,it is just my views,also pls note that no one tool can be perfect if u have tango u will need tmpro to supplement it,any way just my views expressed
best regards
Ajay
impactops
23rd August, 2012, 02:42 AM
I tell you what obdmaster, why don't you get the DK member thats from Kap diagnostics to come out and answer some questions instead of hiding in the background like a mouse.That way, it would give members like yourself that are obligated to defend the product at all costs or otherwise risk loosing your incentives a break.
He can post in whatever color he likes.
Regards
Impactops
i_shot_the_sheriff
27th August, 2012, 12:53 PM
Does anyone knows how to test ESL with the ESL cable of avdi??
obdmaster
27th August, 2012, 05:19 PM
Does anyone knows how to test ESL with the ESL cable of avdi??
ESL cable of AVDI is used to read write eeprom, threw connector plug of ESL.
www.Abritus72.com (http://abritus72.com/mbesl.html)
i_shot_the_sheriff
27th August, 2012, 05:25 PM
Hello, yes i have this cable,,,
and i've sucessfuly read the eprom via this cable from cpu1 and cpu2!
I just couldn't make the "click" to unlock the ESL and see if it's actually good or no
obdmaster
27th August, 2012, 05:40 PM
Hello, yes i have this cable,,,
and i've sucessfuly read the eprom via this cable from cpu1 and cpu2!
I just couldn't make the "click" to unlock the ESL and see if it's actually good or no
For W203, W211 W209
Please, note that in order to erase or write the EEPROM of this type of ESL you need to have the ESL database. Please, find the links for the ESL database here: ESL Database
http://abritus72.com/ESL%20database.pdf
amir_82013
5th November, 2012, 05:24 AM
Sign In - AVDI Forum (http://www.kapdiagnostics.com/forum/)
http://abritus72.com/news.html
* ALL CUSTOMERS WILL RECEIVE THEIR LINKS BETWEEN 10 AND 12 DECEMBER 2012 YEAR
chinhi
9th January, 2013, 04:27 PM
Hi
I have AVID smart license
How to program smart 454 all key lost
I have new key and old sam unit
kennfeld
14th January, 2013, 02:05 PM
Hi
I have AVID smart license
How to program smart 454 all key lost
I have new key and old sam unit
avdi is good tool but communication sames me very poor
the product description seems also poor
so i buyed a tool because it write eeprom/ flash can been read over obd now i have the tool only one of the two can been read
and on another ecu it read nothing or perhaps in boot mode but no howto do about to operate the boot mode
very strange
when you buy tool like cmd galleto or other
they write for each device R / W /Checksum
or - / W / checksum if it can write but not read so the customer knows what he buy
i tryed to read a eeprom of my edc15 2L5 AKN passat tdi
and it read nothing it only read the 29F400 but that can also been done with cmdflash that make checksum automaticaly so lot more user friendly
where to find more info about avdi procedures ?
kennfeld
14th January, 2013, 03:34 PM
Hi
I have AVID smart license
How to program smart 454 all key lost
I have new key and old sam unit
your car is petrol or diesel ?
i also you a 454 brabus ;)
kennfeld
14th January, 2013, 03:52 PM
Hi
I have AVID smart license
How to program smart 454 all key lost
I have new key and old sam unit
your car is petrol or diesel ?
i also you a 454 brabus ;)
ashrafatta1009
27th July, 2013, 03:07 AM
is AVDI useful for Hyundai and Kia
credoline
20th October, 2013, 09:57 PM
Anyone can help with next info ? I am order original AVDI - ABRITES Vehicle Diagnostic Interface with included basic diagnostic functions and PassThru driver (J2534). And want to use to work with Honda HDS software. Can someone tell me it is possible to make HDS software to work with AVDI interface? If yes, with what latest version of HDS is this possible ? Some instuctrions how to install HDS software to be able to use for immo functions (sinhronization of engine ecu , immo and body) on Civic 1.8 2008 ?
Please help with this subject.
drakov
20th October, 2013, 11:13 PM
Yes it works with HDS I think version 2.027.008, for later I havn't tried I use other devices for that
drakov
20th October, 2013, 11:15 PM
is AVDI useful for Hyundai and Kia
Yes works with GDS but not perfect, older stuff I think may struggle, newer stuff it is better (maybe because CAN) but still not perfect, maybe over time they will improve the drivers
credoline
21st October, 2013, 09:17 AM
Yes it works with HDS I think version 2.027.008, for later I havn't tried I use other devices for that
Which other device you use for immo function on Honda ?
drivesure
21st October, 2013, 11:19 AM
i repeat one more times i don't want to push our product , i just show a new mercedes device only because one guy say there is no other alternative ....
half the functions will only work in pro version which you will release later (but as in bmw keycoder never will) - i will never buy anything from this company again - even it is for free : )
DjRomeoR
26th November, 2013, 07:45 PM
Hello, i wanna to aske some question about avdi interface. I have avdi orginal and to me need connect to citroen C3 2004year with lexia (to me need recode BSI).
1 - Can I use avdi interface connect to citroen using lexia software?
2 - ore it's imposible and need to me buy original lexia 3?
P.S : sorry for my english.
Thank you for answers.
dijo
26th November, 2013, 08:36 PM
Hello, i wanna to aske some question about avdi interface. I have avdi orginal and to me need connect to citroen C3 2004year with lexia (to me need recode BSI).
1 - Can I use avdi interface connect to citroen using lexia software?
2 - ore it's imposible and need to me buy original lexia 3?
P.S : sorry for my english.
Thank you for answers.
AVDI not work with LEXIA/PP2000
To run LEXIA/PP2000 only dedicated Interface
obdsystems
26th November, 2013, 08:55 PM
Great tool - few bugs as any tool....
For Renault I'd get Truecode instead.
For Ford I also have something for J1850-PWM (ie older systems like Mondao pre '06)
For VW Beetles I'd get vag-tacho
For GM remotes, well an old AD100/tech2 does the job
But its great tool. Earn't a living from it past 12 months :)
nando0808
30th January, 2014, 09:15 PM
Yes i totaly agree with you , also bought avdi two weeks ago with basic funtion which include edc 15 ,edc 16 flashing option and reseting counters.On the first job i try to read and write edc 16 and the f........ing thing delete my original software and dont want to write it back, normaly the radiator fun goes on.I repair it with another tool and report the problem to my dealer ,the things goes wrong and I decided to return back Avdi and now i waiting for new software for vag.Does anybody have same experience.???
chriskross
30th January, 2014, 09:33 PM
Yes i totaly agree with you , also bought avdi two weeks ago with basic funtion which include edc 15 ,edc 16 flashing option and reseting counters.On the first job i try to read and write edc 16 and the f........ing thing delete my original software and dont want to write it back, normaly the radiator fun goes on.I repair it with another tool and report the problem to my dealer ,the things goes wrong and I decided to return back Avdi and now i waiting for new software for vag.Does anybody have same experience.???
Which edc16 version??
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obdsystems
30th January, 2014, 10:08 PM
:) delete me!!
nazz2
31st January, 2014, 05:36 PM
Thats worrying nando, what procedure did you follow? what edc16 version?
amir_82013
1st February, 2014, 06:52 AM
AVDI Assist Plans - Complete aftercare solution
?10 for 1 month and ?120 for 1 year
Basic plan:
Knowledge Base
AVDI Forum
Ticket Submission
Software Updates
Extended Warranty.
?18 for 1 month and ?216 for 1 year
Regular plan:
All Basic plan Features
Premium Video Content
Priority Ticket Submission
Remote PC Access
AVDI Assist Plans - Complete aftercare solution (http://www.kapdiagnostics.com/index.php/avdi-assist-plans/)
keysmith
1st February, 2014, 04:36 PM
What if your AVDI is brand new. Do you still need to pay for the plan? Or does it just apply to units that are past there warranty?
nazz2
1st February, 2014, 05:47 PM
They can charge what they like , in DK its free!!.
Atex31
1st February, 2014, 05:54 PM
I am blocked from the KAP forum and my interface is only 9 months old.
Looks like I was wrong about it being included for the 1st year.
drakov
1st February, 2014, 06:02 PM
What if your AVDI is brand new. Do you still need to pay for the plan? Or does it just apply to units that are past there warranty?
According to website all new units come with 1 year warranty/support (no idea what level of support that will be though)
They can charge what they like , in DK its free!!.
DK users wont replace hardware should a fault occur, nor will it give future updates
Software Updates
Extended Warranty
That alone is worth a lot more than ?120 a year imho, I know some will/have argued that software updates are bugfixes, but I disagree, I have seen a several free extras come with updates
* !!! HIT !!! - Added support for Peugeot 208, Peugeot 2008, Peugeot 301, Citroen C-Elysee with Valeo BSI (UDS) - PIN reading, mileage recalibration by OBDII
* !!! HIT !!! - Mileage recalibration for Peugeot 208 instrument cluster by OBDII
I wouldnt' say these are bugfixes, you can say or think what you want but I don't know any AVDI owner who bought there original tool so they can stay on old version's just like the clones? We could agree/disagree/argue/debate all day long about this but that won't get us our updates paying a ?120 will.....
drakov
1st February, 2014, 06:06 PM
I am blocked from the KAP forum and my interface is only 9 months old.
Looks like I was wrong about it being included for the 1st year.
Welcome back, Drakov
Access DeniedYou do not have access to this page. Please contact the account owner of this Zendesk for further help.
Best to contact KAP I guess..... from what i read your on the forum before new users had to take out Assist packages once there year was up
Atex31
1st February, 2014, 07:27 PM
Cheers Drakov,
I've have asked KAP the question today, just waiting for the answer.
Edit:
Quote: "Your warranty expiry date has been corrected to April 16th 2014. Access will available again in a few hours."
All sorted and on a Saturday evening too, no objections to paying after the 12 months are up
Alan
gttuning
1st February, 2014, 07:59 PM
hi guys im looking for cas connector for my avdi can some one give me link for something tested.
i see some for 90$$,but rather buy cabel that some one is using,and tested.
thanks.
H.Wessel
1st February, 2014, 08:29 PM
and what about customers from others resellers? Will have free updates??
yellowstilo
1st February, 2014, 08:59 PM
i asked Abrites, they said customers will receive updates as usual without the obligation to buy the AVDI Assist Plan....
drakov
1st February, 2014, 09:08 PM
i asked Abrites, they said customers will receive updates as usual without the obligation to buy the AVDI Assist Plan....
"When buying the AVDI interface you will receive one year free updates of all applications from
the basic diagnostic suite and one year free customer support by email."
This was added a few months ago to main abritus website, so only time will tell, maybe abritus plan to sell VAG 22, 23, 24 ect seperate and update bugfixes for free to older versions, who knows.. they need to do something to get money from those who bought full package somehow?
nazz2
1st February, 2014, 11:14 PM
Sorry drakov, my mistake, I thought the amount it is only to acess
the support, if it includes updates/warranty, it is then well worth it.
pepi
1st February, 2014, 11:42 PM
hi guys im looking for cas connector for my avdi can some one give me link for something tested.
i see some for 90$$,but rather buy cabel that some one is using,and tested.
thanks.
You can make it by yourself . Check on user manual there is all what you need.
obdsystems
2nd February, 2014, 12:10 AM
According to website all new units come with 1 year warranty/support (no idea what level of support that will be though)
DK users wont replace hardware should a fault occur, nor will it give future updates
Software Updates
Extended Warranty
That alone is worth a lot more than ?120 a year imho, I know some will/have argued that software updates are bugfixes, but I disagree, I have seen a several free extras come with updates
I wouldnt' say these are bugfixes, you can say or think what you want but I don't know any AVDI owner who bought there original tool so they can stay on old version's just like the clones? We could agree/disagree/argue/debate all day long about this but that won't get us our updates paying a ?120 will.....
Not sure i've read this right ???
I bought direct from Abritus72 and get....
- FREE updates.
- FREE technical support via email
That's the way it should be until the next major update with new software licence number.
The on-line shop is excellent -
http://abrites.com/index.php?route=information/contact
Buy direct !! Abritus obviously want you to !!
gttuning
2nd February, 2014, 12:25 AM
You can make it by yourself . Check on user manual there is all what you need.
Hi Pepi i looked in there but dont see pin out for cas2 . must check again,but handy to have connector,any body using one?
is cas connector for bmw multi tool,will work with AVDI?
drakov
2nd February, 2014, 12:55 AM
That's the way it should be until the next major update with new software licence number.
Then what? Abritus will want paid for the update? Because that's how I read it, it's also how i read the change in there pricelist wording (this wasn't there until recently), I and most likely all longtime KAP users will gladly pay ?120 just to have extended warranty on there unit never mind anything else that's thrown in, if abritus are going to be charging for each new version that comes out then you can be guaranteed most non KAP customers will be looking to sign up for there Assist plan, or any other Assist plan resellers/abritus offer because it's a no brainer imho
obdmaster
2nd February, 2014, 06:13 PM
I think everyone is missing the point here, if you buy new AVDI hardware from Kap you automatically get 12 months regular assist plan for free (thats everthing videos,email support, forum etc). You get assist points when you buy abrites software for AVDI from Kap, which get you access to the assist plan for free. If you buy your hardware or software from other distributors then you have to pay subscription to access the assist plan. I think its fair enough as forums, support, videos, detailed instructions all cost money to produce.
But as ive said if you buy AVDI hardware from Kap you get access to the full assist plan for free for the first 12 months. If you buy software from Kap then you get assist points which gain you access to the assist plan. For every ?10 you spend with Kap on software you get 1 assist point. 1 assist point is worth ?1 discount on an assist plan. So lets say you spend ?1200 (which is easily done, when buying abrites software :) ) You get 12 months Basic assist plan free. Or lets say you spend ?2160 on abrites software (easily done again when buying abrites software lol) you will get 216 assist points that will get you the Regular assist plan for free for 12 months.
I hope this clarifies Kaps assist plan a little.
ninja123
2nd February, 2014, 08:57 PM
So now KAP are getting an income, will they stop being abusive to the people that pay them thousands of pounds? Ive never seen any other business abuse there customers and get away with it like these guys do!
ninja
obdsystems
3rd February, 2014, 12:17 AM
Then what? Abritus will want paid for the update? Because that's how I read it, it's also how i read the change in there pricelist wording (this wasn't there until recently), I and most likely all longtime KAP users will gladly pay ?120 just to have extended warranty on there unit never mind anything else that's thrown in, if abritus are going to be charging for each new version that comes out then you can be guaranteed most non KAP customers will be looking to sign up for there Assist plan, or any other Assist plan resellers/abritus offer because it's a no brainer imho
"no brainer" seems to be a brainer lols.
And all this "assist plan" sounds marketing crap.
Whats wrong with the way it works now ?? So for VAG for example they have updated licence number this year - some ?500.
Sorry guys i don't work for KAP and disliked them ever since the marketing bloke (with accent) told me "what's going on" attitude when kit cost some ?3000 more from them. I was far too polite to the bloke - maybe stunned by how arrogant a sales person he was.
Not saying KAP assist plan doesn't have benefits (sounds like it does!!).
But If Abritus change pricing structure then I'll have to re-evaluate the pros/cons and maybe go else where. But I think its great kit and think all this discussion (hopefully) doesn't affect me -just KAP customers.
rapidlocksmiths
3rd February, 2014, 12:46 AM
for me , i dont look at it as paying for updates and instructions and forum , i pay for it for the extended warranty 1st and formost , the cost is in line with the extended warranties on offer from others , in fact cheaper than some and the support is superior than some .
the warranty is what makes it a no brainer , the rest is a bonus .
i know some have personal issues with kap , this happens with all suppliers and customers in all trades , what ever i dont like about them is between me and them , but i cant fault the support and back up ive had to date , so can put up with the few negatives ive had .
the warranty is my main reason for buying an assist plan , but i bet i benefit at some point from the support and forum as well and il certainly benefit from the updates , and at less than i pay for the warranties on other kits .
i know its not the same for all , but for me it works.
impactops
4th February, 2014, 12:15 PM
According to KAP's Abritus assist Basic plan, their extended warranty is as follows
Extended Warranty
AVDI users product warranty is extended to the term of the AVDI Assist Plan.
Customers who have purchased a new advi & the basic assist plan at the same time will have that extended warranty added to the current warranty?
Customers who purchase the basic assist plan year after year will have the extended warranty covered for as long as they keep purchasing the plan?
If a Customer purchased an advi from KAP without the assist plan and decides to purchase the assist plan 5 years later, the unit will be covered under warranty if it fails within the plan?
These assist plans are offered only by KAP (Third Party) & not abritus so therefore Abritus are not liable by what is offered by third party?
Terms & Conditions (http://abrites.com/index.php?route=information/information&information_id=5)
I would suggest advi users get acqainted with Abritus's terms & conditions, especially services rendered by third parties
You are advised to get acquainted with such terms and conditions, as they represent an agreement between you and the respective third party rendering the services
Regards
Impactops
obdsystems
4th February, 2014, 12:55 PM
Its all rubbish - if i plan to buy from Abritus another update - they would be quick to fix any problems with my interface.
They've done it free-of-charge in the past. They'd be daft not to help.
You can all buy direct from here Abritus72 Ltd. (http://abrites.com/)
nazz2
4th February, 2014, 03:49 PM
Well the question people now is, where to buy from!, for me at least, i know someone who uses this forum bought an avdi from the main company, his dodgy laptop usb port blew his avdi interface, one email to the supplier,and 3 days later ,he recieved the replacement without anty questions, and that was oversea shipment, i think thats impressive.
Now the confusing bit, the supplier prices are higher than the distributors, i know what you are thinking, the distributor buys few units, hence the discounts, but is that realy the case? This must be the only company that i have seen which sells direct to the buyer, and the distributor has different prices(LESS), and policies,
Now the new question, "WHERE TO BUY".
totalkey
4th February, 2014, 08:29 PM
Well the question people now is, where to buy from!, for me at least, i know someone who uses this forum bought an avdi from the main company, his dodgy laptop usb port blew his avdi interface, one email to the supplier,and 3 days later ,he recieved the replacement without anty questions, and that was oversea shipment, i think thats impressive.
Now the confusing bit, the supplier prices are higher than the distributors, i know what you are thinking, the distributor buys few units, hence the discounts, but is that realy the case? This must be the only company that i have seen which sells direct to the buyer, and the distributor has different prices(LESS), and policies,
Now the new question, "WHERE TO BUY".
this is not true - kap price on the deal 3 months ago was higher
totalkey
4th February, 2014, 08:40 PM
good news www.Abritus72.com (http://www.abritus72.com/news.html)
ford 2011+ algo cracked???
obdsystems
4th February, 2014, 09:21 PM
this is not true - kap price on the deal 3 months ago was higher
1 year ago KAP were 20% higher because they dishonestly sold kit at Abritus price including 20% VAT European Tax.
So anybody in UK was being F**ked.
243895
Then a KAP Pakistan salesman phones you up and tells you its same price !!!! THEY ARE A DISHONEST COMPANY in my personal view
So why the "assist plan" -so they don't have to cheat so much. by the looks of it it offers nothing i already get !!!
Yes RapidLocksmiths you paid more than me if you bought from KAP!!!
Yes Drakov and obdmaster work (or have affiliations) for KAP, so don't trust there comments regarding this matter.
Go direct - you can all do this.
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On another note, thats good news totalkey. Time to spend!! Its great kit and recommend the AVDI :)
Hopefully guys this new Ford will give us an edge over the clone kits and beer money guys which take our bread-n-butter.
As soon i fear we will loose our VAG advantage !!
Steve
totalkey
4th February, 2014, 09:55 PM
@obdsystems i think you should chill and relax more often couse here we just trying to help not to fight! how old are you???
obdmaster
4th February, 2014, 10:19 PM
good news www.Abritus72.com (http://www.abritus72.com/news.html)
ford 2011+ algo cracked???
Or are abritus adding keys threw a back door on newer fords using zn001 ?? Either way it's really good news m8.
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totalkey
4th February, 2014, 10:22 PM
mybe is just func to put manual code from dealer , i sent support email and i will post the answer here
obdmaster
4th February, 2014, 10:40 PM
1 year ago KAP were 20% higher because they dishonestly sold kit at Abritus price including 20% VAT European Tax.
So anybody in UK was being F**ked.
243895
Then a KAP Pakistan salesman phones you up and tells you its same price !!!! THEY ARE A DISHONEST COMPANY in my personal view
Steve
Makin racist comments like that, you will get barred from not only Kap forum but also Dk . Wandered what your problem was with Kap diagnostics now we know. I don't work for Kap or affiliated . They are my friends plain and simple.
What difference does it make if Kap salesman was from Pakistan??
What bearing does putting his ethnic group have to do with the conversation ??
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key point
4th February, 2014, 10:51 PM
KAP salesmen are not from Pakistan, they are from a place further East called Rochdale and are as english as I am, not that it matters.
Good news on the Ford breakthrough.
totalkey
4th February, 2014, 10:57 PM
agree with @obdmaster this is racist comment, kap can do whatever they want - they banned me also from the forum and skype support after buying direct from abritus, but till the end of warrenty they supply me great support.
impactops
4th February, 2014, 11:27 PM
The comment he made was not racist, he didn't say i don't like the product because the owners were pakistanies.He doesn't like buying from KAP cause he feels they are dishonest, thats not racist
Regards
Impactops
totalkey
4th February, 2014, 11:34 PM
The comment he made was not racist, he didn't say i don't like the product because the owners were pakistanies.He doesn't like buying from KAP cause he feels they are dishonest, thats not racist
Regards
Impactops
is the same as he would saying "the black salesman call" - that mean racist
impactops
4th February, 2014, 11:42 PM
is the same as he would saying "the black salesman call" - that mean racist
if every salesman that has happened to rip me off happens to have been black and i point this out, that is not racist.
It's racist if i accuse the blacksales men of ripping me off because he is black
Regards
Impactops
obdsystems
4th February, 2014, 11:55 PM
why is saying someone sounds like they were from Pakistan racist??? I sound like I'm from Wiltshire. Has anybody commented about the price pic ???
Seems like people are trying to deflect from the argument as their little pissed i saved so much !!
In fact i saved about ?3000 by not buying from KAP !!!! :pepsi:
PS. Thats before tax so you lot paid 40% more than me in total :eviltongue:....
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I was sooo annoyed at time i did a picture comparison of the KAP salesmen price - YOU LOT should be concerned about that !!!!!
Its great news guys about Ford and really hope Abritus can stay number #1.
Hopefully really hard to copy lols
New software will always win the day and us supporters :) :) :)
rapidlocksmiths
5th February, 2014, 12:13 AM
Congratulations obdsystems , you got more coverage than i have for less money , well done and good luck to you , just as many here got more coverage than you or i for less money buying in the recent promotion , this happens , right or wrong , happy or unhappy , its life and it happens , though its not a big deal so not worth making it one, im just grateful ive had payback before the reductions, maybe tommorow you can pay less for lunch than i do too .
whether racist or not , it was ill chosen words , i certainly prefer to believe it was not racial .
this does seem to be all about handbags and playground skirmishes , there are many happy kap customers just as there are many happy abrites direct customers , and no doubt both also have a number of unhappy customers and a number of angry customers , this happens in every trade and every market and is a fact of life , but we all have the choice of where and who to buy from , so thankfully we can all buy from where suits us best.
we all vent at some time , but choosing our words , especially our written words should be chosen carefully , branding a company dishonest , cheats etc can be taken more harshly than maybe meant , and making statements that may be by some considered racist is foolhardy meant or not , especially in todays world , i have no doubt these were not meant as such , but as the thread proves , some read them as such .
maybe the thread is best to get back on track about the positives and negatives of the softwares , and the questions some have on this , rather than becomming a playground battle between the i hate kap camp and those that dont have an issue with them so must be on the payroll .
im a kap customer , my own experiences have on the whole been positive , the services ive recieved have been good , so i have no complaints at present , i paid more than you for it , i dont see why this is relevent to any argument , if it makes you feel better that i paid more then im happy for your joy , enjoy it though i fail to see any relevence , would i have liked to pay much less , of course i would but i bought over a year before you , before the deals , thats just as it is , my loss your gain .
i think its time to grow up and be big boys , its more like nursery school .
great news on ford , fingers crossed its proper cracked , interesting times ahead
rapidlocksmiths
5th February, 2014, 01:10 AM
why is saying someone sounds like they were from Pakistan racist??? I sound like I'm from Wiltshire. Has anybody commented about the price pic ???
Seems like people are trying to deflect from the argument as their little pissed i saved so much !!
In fact i saved about ?3000 by not buying from KAP !!!! :pepsi:
PS. Thats before tax so you lot paid 40% more than me in total :eviltongue:....
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I was sooo annoyed at time i did a picture comparison of the KAP salesmen price - YOU LOT should be concerned about that !!!!!
Its great news guys about Ford and really hope Abritus can stay number #1.
Hopefully really hard to copy lols
New software will always win the day and us supporters :) :) :)
im sure many of us me included would have loved to save ?3k on what we bought , im guessing that some who bought prior to me paid far more than i did , so i do agree that many would have liked to save so much , just as many of us wish we had got the deal that those who bought avdi full got , but in reality i find the payback more important , so yes id have loved to save 3k , i didnt so wont cry as the payback has been good enough for it to be easily put down to experience , i havnt lost money and i still have an excellent tool .
the people on holiday we got friendly with paid far less for their holiday than we did , but it didnt stop us having a great holiday , we just search better or book later next time .
im pleased you saved so much , its always good to see someone get a good deal and that they are happy with it , so well done .
you do make a good point on price mate that some may benefit from , but spoilt by ill chosen wording , we all make our choices and pay our money , someone will always do better than another on a deal , but i doubt anyone is pissed at you for getting a good deal , and i dont see anyone goading you or having a pop at you for getting a good deal , most id imagine will be pleased for you , sadly doesnt work the same all ways .
so onwards and upwards , this will be next weeks forgotten posts as we all have jobs to do and livings to make , which is far more important than forum bickering and baiting.
z786
5th February, 2014, 01:31 AM
lol racist comments, whether you like to admit it or not.
KAP is a business, they are doing what any business does, trying to make money!
when you go out and cut a key, do u give the key for cost price? didnt think so.
no 1 is forcing you to buy from KAP, whats with the vendetta against them?
foxtec800
5th February, 2014, 08:28 AM
I bought my Full kit during the promo last year, yes i could got have got it from direct from Abritus as is was the same price in euros as kaps was in pounds.
i had the choice and decided to buy from Kap, I live in the Uk and work in the UK so i bought from the Uk.
i know i paid more than i could have but decided
1, support uk dealer,
2, access to uk forum
3, if there was a warranty issue better to deal with someone in this country
my point is CHOICE with the web being what it is now we can all buy from anywhere in the world but if we all bought from outside our own countries we are not helping support our economy, i know thats been happening for a long time now but hey thats life......
totalkey
5th February, 2014, 09:09 AM
"Hello,
It is a key learning function, it does not support incode, outcode.
totalkey
5th February, 2014, 09:26 AM
"Hello,No, you do not require a code, it is done automatically.
obdsystems
5th February, 2014, 10:16 AM
Yeah sorry to have upset everybody - gone overboard to prove my point :)
Shouldn't have brought up painful 'price' subject !
Anyway, no news yet about price of this Ford ??? hehe can't be free upgrade
topclef
5th February, 2014, 11:33 AM
Anyway, no news yet about price of this Ford ??? hehe can't be free upgrade[/QUOTE]
New special function FR006 Key Manager : 1000eu Without VAT
Existing customers with FR004 : 500eu without VAT
totalkey
5th February, 2014, 11:47 AM
Anyway, no news yet about price of this Ford ??? hehe can't be free upgrade
New special function FR006 Key Manager : 1000eu
Existing customers with FR004 : 500eu[/QUOTE]
.not too bad price
obdsystems
5th February, 2014, 01:11 PM
Not bad at all sir !! And Abritus sorted all the Ford bugs out last year so really good kit for our Fords
Still holding off till special discount time (Easter ??) - anybody in the know??
Got alot to buy/update :)
key point
5th February, 2014, 07:18 PM
Ford prices from KAP.
Full ford key programming (FR006) = ?909.09
Upgrade from old Ford key programming (FR004) to (FR006) = ?454.54
Plus VAT on above prices.
Atex31
5th February, 2014, 09:52 PM
Interesting,
If you click on the link to Abrites website on the bottom of the KAP website, guess where it takes you now?
http://www.kapdiagnostics.com/
It never used to do that.
rapidlocksmiths
5th February, 2014, 11:22 PM
"Hello,No, you do not require a code, it is done automatically.
an excellent new addition for sure
obdsystems
6th February, 2014, 07:31 PM
Just tried todo an '05 Fiesta today and said "System not supported"
Strange ??
So be good to get feedback on how good "New" coverage is. Its a good price / good news however (i'm not grumpy lols )
At the end-of-the-day what option have we got - and bargon price
raptureready
7th February, 2014, 07:47 AM
hi there
I got a corsa c that the ecu packed up, got second hand ecu, put in car and pulled 1 pin from ecu with avdi and 1 from cluster from car
can anyone tell me the steps to align new ecu with avdi please, bit confused and don't want to press wrong buttons, its got, change id, reset immobiliser , reset ecu, program immobiliser function,program immobiliser output.
thanks for any help
obdsystems
7th February, 2014, 01:04 PM
hi there
I got a corsa c that the ecu packed up, got second hand ecu, put in car and pulled 1 pin from ecu with avdi and 1 from cluster from car
can anyone tell me the steps to align new ecu with avdi please, bit confused and don't want to press wrong buttons, its got, change id, reset immobiliser , reset ecu, program immobiliser function,program immobiliser output.
thanks for any help
Interesting - would suggest doing via eeprom - copy VIN across tho might be checksummed.
But Tech2 an option?? AVDI can do some clever stuff
Really you gotta just dive in my friend ! Wanta do more of this sorta thing to. Someone here better knowledged than me
nazz2
7th February, 2014, 02:52 PM
I think some part of the pin is in the cluster and some in the immo, on these corca C s, the immo,ecu,and cluster have to be matched!.hopefully some one with pass tro driver and tech2 soft, will post a write up.
obdmaster
7th February, 2014, 03:54 PM
hi there
I got a corsa c that the ecu packed up, got second hand ecu, put in car and pulled 1 pin from ecu with avdi and 1 from cluster from car
can anyone tell me the steps to align new ecu with avdi please, bit confused and don't want to press wrong buttons, its got, change id, reset immobiliser , reset ecu, program immobiliser function,program immobiliser output.
thanks for any help
1. read pin from car
2. read pin from donor ecu.
3. go into ecu, enter security code from donor ecu, then "reset engine ecu"
4. turn ign off for 30 secs.
5. go into immobiliser enter cars securty code, and select program immobiliser function, new ecm installed. Turn ign off 30 secs
For most opel cars the above is enough but for corsa c you must:
6. go into inst cluster enter cars security code and reset. turn ign off 30 secs
7. repeat step 6 for body module,
8. go into inst cluster program with cars security code. turn ign off 30 secs.
9, repeat step 8 for body module,
At this point car should run, you can now enter vin in replacement ecu, and configuration.
nazz2
7th February, 2014, 04:37 PM
Is this with avdi or opcom?
obdsystems
7th February, 2014, 04:43 PM
Is this with avdi or opcom?
I'd use tech2 - with AVDI.
But heard opcom is good :) Thanks for info master of obd
nomis
7th February, 2014, 06:42 PM
KAP salesmen are not from Pakistan
I confirm mate ...
obdmaster
7th February, 2014, 07:02 PM
Is this with avdi or opcom?
Either procedure is same in both platforms.
obdsystems
8th February, 2014, 10:40 AM
Had a thought that if donor ecu is already out of its car might it be tough getting the code??
Cos assume kit only reads from dash, not ecu.
nazz2
8th February, 2014, 11:43 AM
You only need the vin from breakers yard and friendly vauxhall dealer or code service.
drakov
8th February, 2014, 11:59 AM
You only need the vin from breakers yard and friendly vauxhall dealer or code service.
Friendly dealer wont do jack shit in uk without V5 and ID, even if they said car was in workshop the have to fax a copy of jobcard to vauxhall security centre, vauxhall security centre will not process any 'over the counter' request without documents... new rules since 4th november 2013
nazz2
8th February, 2014, 01:56 PM
Its who you know ,not what you know mate, i get these all the time with no paperwork!.Pay me ?18+vat, and i will get it for you!.Now lets stick to the subject please.
drakov
8th February, 2014, 02:19 PM
Its who you know ,not what you know mate, i get these all the time with no paperwork!.Pay me ?18+vat, and i will get it for you!.Now lets stick to the subject please.
You may well get these all the time, but obdsystems post wasnt about you, it was about him and people in general, and I know for a fact that 95% of the garages/locksmiths in the UK will not get codes from the dealer without paperwork.
nazz2
8th February, 2014, 02:52 PM
What are you talking about, im glad the post its not about me, but its my thread, My offer was to obdsystem if he cant get the codes anyway, If you were just try to discredit me thats fine, im an adult, also who says im getting them from uk anyway.
Besides the thread its not about MR obdsystem and general, its about AVDI1.
raptureready
8th February, 2014, 02:54 PM
hi there
thanks so much for all the advice so far , I went back to vehicle yesterday morning before I got replies on forum and tried again but no success, I pulled pin from second hand ecu under engine C14NE (gm brasil) Delphi delco-1.4l on avdi for anyones information, then I went into ecu with pin pulled and programed ecu and then changed the vin to the cars vin number, the only thing is I could not go into the bcm with any pin, it just said operation failed- the ecu does not specify the reason of the rejection,
the bcm was not changed as far as I know, could I read the pin from dump of bcm? also fault p0602 control module programming error, p1614, p1615,p1616, will try and go back on mon morning to try procedure you guys have given me, but not sure about bcm why it doesent eccept pin, the bcm also has xxxxxxxx for its vin and xxxxxxxxxx for its repair shop code, is this how it normally displays or should it show numbers? also I only changed the vin in the ecu , is there a place in configuration to also put in new vin, where do I go to get into configuration? thanks also I reprogrammed a new key, the light stayed solid for awhile longer it seemed then started to flash again, will try again mon with steps posted and c what happens
thanks again for the help, appreciate it
drakov
8th February, 2014, 07:02 PM
Nazz2, really????...
"If you were just try to discredit me thats fine, im an adult"
Where in my posts have I tried to discredit you?
"also who says im getting them from uk anyway."
I said clearly in my post that I was referring to the uk
anyways as you said back on topic.....
Meat-Head
8th February, 2014, 07:56 PM
All this bickering, obdmaster is an independent company from Neverneverland, if your still unsure then ask the bloke he buys his daily lunch from.
obdsystems
8th February, 2014, 07:58 PM
not about MR obdsystem and general, its about AVDI1.
Hay its all me, me, me !!!!! :party:
My posting was a "thinking out load" thought - peace guys !!! share the advice :)
....we argue far too much (me included !!) which sorry for
Yeah only have one local dealer who helps me out (codes in seconds for free!!!) & thats not Vauxhall. The rest i don't bother with (& vice versa).
Anyway guys, we can easily get Vauxhall codes - either with kit or via eeprom.
@raptureready: The Tech2/AVDI passthro i would of thought would be best for that job - menu via matching
gttuning
9th February, 2014, 12:03 AM
1. read pin from car
2. read pin from donor ecu.
3. go into ecu, enter security code from donor ecu, then "reset engine ecu"
4. turn ign off for 30 secs.
5. go into immobiliser enter cars securty code, and select program immobiliser function, new ecm installed. Turn ign off 30 secs
For most opel cars the above is enough but for corsa c you must:
6. go into inst cluster enter cars security code and reset. turn ign off 30 secs
7. repeat step 6 for body module,
8. go into inst cluster program with cars security code. turn ign off 30 secs.
9, repeat step 8 for body module,
At this point car should run, you can now enter vin in replacement ecu, and configuration.
same procedure like battery flat in opel cars,follow the steps above,but i think you have to reset all systems even if they worked before.
i do this with avdi.
nazz2
9th February, 2014, 06:54 PM
Sorry guys, I was having a bad hair day.
keysmith
12th February, 2014, 08:28 PM
I received a software update from AVDI today. Did anybody who did not sign up for the KAP assist plan and is past their warranty period receive this free update?
Release notes:
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Abrites Tag Key Tool 6.3 released
* Bugfix cloning Texas 4D transponders
workdamnyou
12th February, 2014, 09:17 PM
@keysmith...Yes, it came through for my old AVDI which is out of warranty and no assist plan.
On a different note... Anyone tested the new Ford sw?
Atex31
13th February, 2014, 12:12 AM
The new Ford software sounds good,
I will wait a couple of weeks for a show discount but hopefully someone else has had a chance to try it out before then ;)
Fallen
13th February, 2014, 09:51 AM
I received a software update from AVDI today. Did anybody who did not sign up for the KAP assist plan and is past their warranty period receive this free update?
Release notes:
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Abrites Tag Key Tool 6.3 released
* Bugfix cloning Texas 4D transponders
My new ADVI with plan got bugfix, old AVDI did not.
So it looks like KAP will not release bugfixes without a warranty plan.
totalkey
13th February, 2014, 10:10 AM
My new ADVI with plan got bugfix, old AVDI did not.
So it looks like KAP will not release bugfixes without a warranty plan.
you realy think that worldwide costumers(not from kap) will not receive bug fix updates? this is sound ridiculous and i don't think is true
Fallen
13th February, 2014, 10:17 AM
you realy think that worldwide costumers(not from kap) will not receive bug fix updates? this is sound ridiculous and i don't think is true
What possible reason would I have to lie about this totalkey?
totalkey
13th February, 2014, 10:23 AM
i didnt said you lied sir!!, maybe you need to send email to abritus to check why you didn't receive the update
totalkey
13th February, 2014, 10:30 AM
i know kap generate updates from independent server from abritus server, so my guess kap blocking you from updates and not abritus company
Fallen
13th February, 2014, 10:30 AM
Must be some sort of communication problem here because "this is sound ridiculous and i don't think is true" means that you don't believe what i'm saying is true, I am lying in other words.
Communication break down, nothing to see here, move along!
totalkey
13th February, 2014, 10:35 AM
ok, sorry @fallen this is my bad english
totalkey
13th February, 2014, 10:58 AM
if it true that only kap costumers dont get free bug fix updates , i think this is legal issue and it can be discuss in court.
like toyota say that only uk costumers need to pay for recall fixes
rapidlocksmiths
13th February, 2014, 01:16 PM
i do have an assist plan with kap and i did recieve an update yesterday with a bug fix , i cant say about those without an assist plan or a machine still in warranty , it was a bug fix and not a major update so maybe everyone gets it , i dont know .
we can spend pages speculating on whats going on , but unless someone without an assist plan and an out of warranty unit posts we will all be in dark.
yes i suspect questions will be asked if kap customers without an assist plan dont get these but abrites direct customers do get it , then there will be something not right , but the fact is no one knows for sure and as such all comments on this are speculation , personally i prefer to know for sure nefore voicing an opinion one way or the other .
i guess time will tell
Bishop c4
13th February, 2014, 03:36 PM
i do have an assist plan with kap and i did recieve an update yesterday with a bug fix , i cant say about those without an assist plan or a machine still in warranty , it was a bug fix and not a major update so maybe everyone gets it , i dont know .
we can spend pages speculating on whats going on , but unless someone without an assist plan and an out of warranty unit posts we will all be in dark.
yes i suspect questions will be asked if kap customers without an assist plan dont get these but abrites direct customers do get it , then there will be something not right , but the fact is no one knows for sure and as such all comments on this are speculation , personally i prefer to know for sure nefore voicing an opinion one way or the other .
i guess time will tell
Hello no more speculation friend as you know I'm a KAP costumer and I can tell you truly that at this moment no bugfix no nothing from them (no assist plan no warranty here) so I hope this clarifies a little how the things are from now on and how the things will be
Best Regards
totalkey
13th February, 2014, 03:44 PM
the question is if someone got this update from abritus for free (and he got old avdi)
rapidlocksmiths
13th February, 2014, 03:53 PM
Hello no more speculation friend as you know I'm a KAP costumer and I can tell you truly that at this moment no bugfix no nothing from them (no assist plan no warranty here) so I hope this clarifies a little how the things are from now on and how the things will be
Best Regards
so we know that you havnt recieved the bug fix yet , maybe they are sending out to assist plan and warranty customers first as in past updates reach different people at different times , or maybe as some have speculated they will not be sending out to non assist plan customers , i still dont know and its too early to know for sure at present .
it would be good to hear from some who have bought from abrites direct whose machine is out of warranty to see if they recieved this , if they havnt then it affects all abrites customers and not just kap customers , so wont be kap witholding updates as suggested in a previous post , if they have then this gives the customers who havnt grounds to ask questions as to why not.
only when we have all of the info can we say with certainty whats what , i just dont believe it right to blame an individual business if it is in fact out of their control unless 100% sure of facts.
Bishop c4
13th February, 2014, 04:02 PM
so we know that you havnt recieved the bug fix yet , maybe they are sending out to assist plan and warranty customers first as in past updates reach different people at different times , or maybe as some have speculated they will not be sending out to non assist plan customers , i still dont know and its too early to know for sure at present .
it would be good to hear from some who have bought from abrites direct whose machine is out of warranty to see if they recieved this , if they havnt then it affects all abrites customers and not just kap customers , so wont be kap witholding updates as suggested in a previous post , if they have then this gives the customers who havnt grounds to ask questions as to why not.
only when we have all of the info can we say with certainty whats what , i just dont believe it right to blame an individual business if it is in fact out of their control unless 100% sure of facts.
Yeah I agree with you, I was thinking about the same scenario but the thing is that the updates are dispatch almost automatically. but anyways I was not thinking to discredit the company despite the fact that I am waiting for solutions since last year so as you wisely mention it only time will tell. lets continue waiting patiently.
Best Regards
rapidlocksmiths
13th February, 2014, 04:16 PM
we are all in the dark over this as claims have been made in the thread that if bought from abrites direct you still get updates and support without having to buy assist packages , it has been mentioned that the assist packages are just via kap and only kap customers have to pay for this , this is why the truth will only be known when those that have purchased from both companys post .
i look forward to those abrites direct customers with old avdi out of warranty posting so that this subject can be put to bed , personally i dont believe kap are witholding anything , it is far more likely that this is an abrites directive that will at some point affect all users , though il happily be corrected if someone has firm proof otherwise.
obdsystems
13th February, 2014, 04:36 PM
we are all in the dark over this as claims have been made in the thread that if bought from abrites direct you still get updates and support without having to buy assist packages , it has been mentioned that the assist packages are just via kap and only kap customers have to pay for this , this is why the truth will only be known when those that have purchased from both companys post .
i look forward to those abrites direct customers with old avdi out of warranty posting so that this subject can be put to bed , personally i dont believe kap are witholding anything , it is far more likely that this is an abrites directive that will at some point affect all users , though il happily be corrected if someone has firm proof otherwise.
Martin, extra support (aka Assist plans) are just from KAP.
Most of my licenses have replaced this year (along with anybody who bought the tool on special offer!).
So non of us can expect many updates unless you get your wallet out - KAP or direct :)
totalkey
13th February, 2014, 05:23 PM
In The last vag update they added few key for free. Like seat 2013
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foxtec800
13th February, 2014, 06:34 PM
In The last vag update they added few key for free. Like seat 2013
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but then they release new modules for peugeot .citroen 208,2008 *301 and charge for update when they are not new functions
just more coverage :eviltongue: same as ford new key learning, i except that they are new vehicle and will pay to update but the old package doesnt state
up to 2010 vehickes,just lists focus fiesta etc no date break...
expect more of the same when other vehicles are added to existing support, more new modules to come :joyous:
totalkey
13th February, 2014, 06:41 PM
You just making noise with no sense at all foxtec, maybe you will make a new tool and give your costumes free updates , because you so smart that you can crack
new security algos in one hour,
For real now , how much did you charge a costumer that lost his key and your are the only locksmith in the world how can make this kind of a key?
Abritus charge only 500 euro. And you can pay it in two jobs.
54321
13th February, 2014, 09:20 PM
I bought my avdi from kap along with all the software that is on it. I've received no bugfix or updates and access denied to the kap forum.
foxtec800
14th February, 2014, 08:48 AM
You just making noise with no sense at all foxtec, maybe you will make a new tool and give your costumes free updates , because you so smart that you can crack
new security algos in one hour,
For real now , how much did you charge a costumer that lost his key and your are the only locksmith in the world how can make this kind of a key?
Abritus charge only 500 euro. And you can pay it in two jobs.
As i said Totalkey i would pay to update the Ford system without any problems as its new system/algo
the point i was making was just that there will not be many Free additions to existing modules any longer.
as others have already stated, it seems now that when new vehicles are added new modules are created.
so we will all have to upgrade modules to get the new coverage, were as in the past these would have mainly been Free updates
totalkey
14th February, 2014, 09:26 AM
sure we all want free updates, but i believe that the process for add a cover for new cars is taking allot of time and money, anyhow look what happened with zedbull - they give 2-3 updates in a year for free and now is outdated.
but most important to remember is that for ford update you paying only 500 euro and i think is very cheap
obdsystems
14th February, 2014, 01:29 PM
Yeah very cheap indeed totalkey - welcome addition.
Anyway, yeah you lot who bought the kit on special offer - it was on "special offer" so can't expect many, if any updates.
Abritus have some 10+ guys n girls working full time - they want dosh and so do KAP if they are offering extra services. Will defend the buggers for once.
Have good weekend guys, many lost keys jobs for you all :)
impactops
20th February, 2014, 07:12 AM
Some info on KAP Diagnostics & it's Directors
KAP DIAGNOSTICS.COM LIMITED of OL16 5QR in LANCASHIRE UNITED KINGDOM (http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/kap-diagnosticscom)
Salim Mahmood (http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/director/57551/salim-mahmood)
Naheem Mahmood (http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/director/57553/naheem-mahmood)
KAP AUTO LOCKS LIMITED of OL16 5QR in LANCASHIRE UNITED KINGDOM (http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/kap-auto-locks)
Documents for Kap Diagnostics.com Limited (http://www.cdrex.com/kap-diagnosticscom-limited/documents-2509025.html)
Naheem Mahmood - Free People Check with News, Pictures & Links - Yasni.com (http://www.yasni.com/naheem+mahmood/check+people)
https://www.facebook.com/naheem.mahmood.73
KAPautolocks | Specialist Mobile Automotive Locksmith (http://www.kapautolocks.com/)
Regards
Impactops
54321
20th February, 2014, 09:44 AM
Why are you putting up somebody's possible family home address as well as facebook account on a public forum?
impactops
20th February, 2014, 12:10 PM
Why are you putting up somebody's possible family home address as well as facebook account on a public forum?
Google is not public?
All the links are available to anybody that uses google (which is the entire world), if he wanted that to remain private then he shouldn't of joined facebook.The link above that one provides links to his other social media sites, so don't shoot the messenger.
Your question should of been "what has this got to do with advi" which would of been a more reasonable question than asking why information in which he has given about himself willingly on various public websites is being posted on a "public" forum in which it cannot be read unless you log in
Regards
Impactops
54321
20th February, 2014, 12:26 PM
Fair enough
impactops
20th February, 2014, 12:30 PM
Fair enough
If anything his customers can ask him questions directly, that's what he would want right?, to help all of his customers?
Regards
Impactops
54321
20th February, 2014, 12:35 PM
I know what you're getting at and I agree to a point, telephone numbers, Facebook accounts, business address's fine. But a home address is a tad too personal imo.
impactops
20th February, 2014, 12:49 PM
But a home address is a tad too personal imo.
I'm not aware that any of the links i have posted provides a home address, but if it does it something that he himself has provided in one form or another for those details to have entered the public domain, i have only posted 1/2 of what i have found
Regards
Impactops
obdsystems
20th February, 2014, 06:25 PM
as said - its a public facebook page. Always check up people before doing business
Limited company's are good that they do proved addresses.
your all welcome to have my address haha its on the website
chriskross
20th February, 2014, 07:47 PM
yeah looks like they made a great deal with avdi, when i look on naheems cars on his facebook profile ;-)
obdmaster
21st February, 2014, 08:11 PM
Some info on KAP Diagnostics & it's Directors
KAP DIAGNOSTICS.COM LIMITED of OL16 5QR in LANCASHIRE UNITED KINGDOM (http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/kap-diagnosticscom)
Salim Mahmood (http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/director/57551/salim-mahmood)
Naheem Mahmood (http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/director/57553/naheem-mahmood)
KAP AUTO LOCKS LIMITED of OL16 5QR in LANCASHIRE UNITED KINGDOM (http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/kap-auto-locks)
Documents for Kap Diagnostics.com Limited (http://www.cdrex.com/kap-diagnosticscom-limited/documents-2509025.html)
Naheem Mahmood - Free People Check with News, Pictures & Links - Yasni.com (http://www.yasni.com/naheem+mahmood/check+people)
https://www.facebook.com/naheem.mahmood.73
KAPautolocks | Specialist Mobile Automotive Locksmith (http://www.kapautolocks.com/)
Regards
Impactops
That is not naheem mahmood of kap Diagnostics. :joyous: You have too much time to waste on yours hands. But you have given me a good laugh. Thank you M8
Google is not public?
All the links are available to anybody that uses google (which is the entire world), if he wanted that to remain private then he shouldn't of joined facebook.The link above that one provides links to his other social media sites, so don't shoot the messenger.
Naheem Mahmood of Kap isn,t on facebook. You have the wrong man.
Your question should of been "what has this got to do with advi" which would of been a more reasonable question than asking why information in which he has given about himself willingly on various public websites is being posted on a "public" forum in which it cannot be read unless you log in
Regards
Impactops
as said - its a public facebook page. Always check up people before doing business
That is not Naheem Mahmood on facebook you have met naheem at last locksmith show.
yeah looks like they made a great deal with avdi, when i look on naheems cars on his facebook profile ;-)
Naheem has a 2005 VW not bentleys, also he doesn,t have a moustache.
obdsystems
21st February, 2014, 08:36 PM
Ok calm down.
Are you sure he doesn't have a moustache lols ???
It was still a good posting - Lots of users want to know business details!
There is no malice obdmaster i hope from any party. I did meet you at the last show - we talked about EWS3 and '47 chip on the KAP stand.
KAP seem a good company to buy from. I would like to know more about the previous business tho - but i think it was just closed down.
Peace man!!
obdmaster
21st February, 2014, 08:52 PM
Ok calm down.
Are you sure he doesn't have a moustache lols ???
It was still a good posting - Lots of users want to know business details!
There is no malice obdmaster i hope from any party. I did meet you at the last show - we talked about EWS3 and '47 chip on the KAP stand.
KAP seem a good company to buy from. I would like to know more about the previous business tho - but i think it was just closed down.
Peace man!!
What i was saying m8, is you met naheem at last show. Id of thought you might of twigged impactops got wrong facebook profile. Due to the picture on facebook profile he posted.
But was few months ago i suppose.
obdsystems
21st February, 2014, 09:03 PM
Never talked to them. But we chatted :) Your advice is always welcome and hopefully you'll help with more with Benz questions lol
Yeah, removed myself from facebook years ago and KAP are wise to do same. Really is more trouble than worth.
impactops
21st February, 2014, 10:41 PM
The facebook page came from the link below, which was also posted with the other links
Naheem Mahmood - Free People Check with News, Pictures & Links - Yasni.com (http://www.yasni.com/naheem+mahmood/check+people)
Until yesterday, it stated Kap Diagnostics on the top of the page refering to everything under it as the person from KAP.
It's also interesting to note that's it taken a day for obdmaster to point out that it's incorrect, do you think that if the information was incorrect it would be left to up to a day for anyone of the Kap supporters to point out that it is incorrect
Regards
Impactops
obdmaster
21st February, 2014, 10:48 PM
The facebook page came from the link below, which was also posted with the other links
Naheem Mahmood - Free People Check with News, Pictures & Links - Yasni.com (http://www.yasni.com/naheem+mahmood/check+people)
Until yesterday, it stated Kap Diagnostics on the top of the page refering to everything under it as the person from KAP.
It's also interesting to note that's it taken a day for obdmaster to point out that it's incorrect, do you think that if the information was incorrect it would be left to up to a day for anyone of the Kap supporters to point out that it is incorrect
Regards
Impactops
Wow wow wow, the reason why it took a day to post is because im very busy at work at the moment. And thats no lie m8. Tonight was the first time i noticed your post.
I just thought your post was funny , and the comments made after it where funnier.
Like chrissKross" yeah looks like they made a great deal with avdi, when i look on naheems cars on his facebook profile ;-)"
Really made me laugh as like i said " he drives a 2005 VW" :joyous:
impactops
21st February, 2014, 10:53 PM
Wow wow wow, the reason why it took a day to post is because im very busy at work at the moment. And thats no lie m8. Tonight was the first time i noticed your post.
You have been on the thread before tonight, i've seen you present on the thread.
Let me guess you came on but did not read it.
obdmaster
21st February, 2014, 10:57 PM
You have been on the thread before tonight, i've seen you present on the thread.
Let me guess you came on but did not read it.
You are mistaken m8 i didn,t get home yesterday till 8pm as i was working late. And only had looked at threads that really intersted me, and ive lost interest in this thread as it seems to of lost its way.
impactops
21st February, 2014, 11:14 PM
You are mistaken m8 i didn,t get home yesterday till 8pm as i was working late. And only had looked at threads that really intersted me, and ive lost interest in this thread as it seems to of lost its way.
Impossible, i saw your name on the bottom when i came on yesterday to read the thread, i refreshed the page then you were gone!!
The page hasn't lost it's way, before i posted the links yesterday the last post was on the 14th Feb, so there were no discussions taking place
key point
21st February, 2014, 11:25 PM
Impossible, i saw your name on the bottom when i came on yesterday to read the thread, i refreshed the page then you were gone!!
The page hasn't lost it's way, before i posted the links yesterday the last post was on the 14th Feb, so there were no discussions taking place
lol, got to laugh at that. Impactops are you so obsessed with Obdmaster that you are following around the forum and noting when he logs on and off. If you ask him nicely he may set up a spy cam in his penthouse he pays for with his salary from Abritus.
impactops
21st February, 2014, 11:36 PM
lol, got to laugh at that. Impactops are you so obsessed with Obdmaster that you are following around the forum and noting when he logs on and off. If you ask him nicely he may set up a spy cam in his penthouse he pays for with his salary from Abritus.
I don't want to dissapoint you key point, but i believe it's the other way around, always the first to rebutt what i say
So who's following who
You Kap supporters Key Point are fvucked in the head, i think you need a psych evaluation, you acuse me of following OBD then thank my reply.
Go figure!!
key point
21st February, 2014, 11:47 PM
I do read your posts, I must admit I find them most amusing. I am still trying to work out the hidden agenda involving your dislike with anything to do with brand Abritus. So come on mate, give us a clue.
impactops
22nd February, 2014, 12:10 AM
I do read your posts, I must admit I find them most amusing. I am still trying to work out the hidden agenda involving your dislike with anything to do with brand Abritus. So come on mate, give us a clue.
So the accuser is stalking the person he accused of stalking??
The clue is, that if you persist in spinning shit, i'll persist in exposing the shit you are spinning.
It's good to see that the focus has been taken away from the remainder of the links, thats what the supporters tend to do, focus the attention away from the root of the problem.If i was a Kap customer i'd be more concerned about the details in those links than worrying whether the facebook page is indeed the person from Kap
Regards
Impactops
obdsystems
22nd February, 2014, 12:19 AM
there must be more to life than this forum, 11 at night everybody -
I want fast cars and good woman ...or the other way round lol
just need more money so i can spend it !!! PS. AK500+ is the one obdmaster. PM where i can get good merc keys pz guys
key point
22nd February, 2014, 09:08 AM
I don't want to dissapoint you key point, but i believe it's the other way around, always the first to rebutt what i say
So who's following who
You Kap supporters Key Point are fvucked in the head, i think you need a psych evaluation, you acuse me of following OBD then thank my reply.
Go figure!!
Take note impactops. I did not thank your reply, I simply liked your reply. Like I said in my previous post, I find your posts most amusing.
key point
22nd February, 2014, 09:22 AM
there must be more to life than this forum, 11 at night everybody -
I want fast cars and good woman ...or the other way round lol
just need more money so i can spend it !!! PS. AK500+ is the one obdmaster. PM where i can get good merc keys pz guys
back on track. By most accounts chinese copy versions are not very reliable. most are getting decent second hand origionals, virginising and recasing.
impactops
22nd February, 2014, 09:27 AM
Take note impactops. I did not thank your reply, I simply liked your reply. Like I said in my previous post, I find your posts most amusing.
I understand key point, obdmaster has also followed suit, maybe the rest of the Kap supporters will follow?
obdsystems
22nd February, 2014, 09:55 AM
back on track. By most accounts chinese copy versions are not very reliable. most are getting decent second hand origionals, virginising and recasing.
Where can i purchase the AK500 original ?
really like my AK50 but that's a clone also.
would buy Abritus for Mercs but think that's best for BMW n VAGs as don't like the idea of on-line if possible.
Cheers for any pointers
PS. Only ever buy an original AK47 !!!
key point
22nd February, 2014, 10:08 AM
If you do buy Abritus you do not have to use online service, you can buy a calculator and do it yourself.
chriskross
22nd February, 2014, 10:53 AM
I think obdsystems means he don't want to use online connection for keys generating. With avdi you have to be online to receive the keydata.
obdsystems
22nd February, 2014, 12:24 PM
If i can avoid on-line part with AVDI then its a contender again. Still need the AK500+ assume as the programmer or similar device.
Think there are good n bad out there. So much to learn regarding this...
Do u guys do mercs ?? :)
paul_12345
22nd February, 2014, 01:05 PM
If i can avoid on-line part with AVDI then its a contender again. Still need the AK500+ assume as the programmer or similar device.
Think there are good n bad out there. So much to learn regarding this...
Do u guys do mercs ?? :)
I've not bothered with merc keys, but this has been descussed before.. if you want just <2006 cars then just get chinese SKC and either the gold Merc IR ~$50 or the bit more expensive white one ~$180 with ir port then use r260 etc to read ezs
everyone always says ak400/500 are shite anyway
the next step up looks like the new evo programmer to get 2006-2010 car with the correct rom version.
impactops
23rd February, 2014, 03:42 AM
That is not naheem mahmood of kap Diagnostics. :joyous: You have too much time to waste on yours hands. But you have given me a good laugh. Thank you M8
That is not Naheem Mahmood on facebook you have met naheem at last locksmith show.
Naheem has a 2005 VW not bentleys, also he doesn,t have a moustache.
All this from just your average KAP customer, why don't you get clearly to come on & clearly clarify it. Unlike you i have chosen green to play this game, it is more decisive than yellow
obdmaster
23rd February, 2014, 12:50 PM
Has anyone had chance to use the Abritus new ford software on newer ford?? I have it but as yet, have not had chance to try it.
ngakson2002
23rd February, 2014, 01:42 PM
Hello Mate,
Following a Start Error i have here on a 2000 ML 320 with EAM, i have programmed a new new transponder and still get START ERROR at the INSTRUMENT CLUSTER.Finally i have Renewed the dump file from the ECU VDO memory 24C02 and now need to carry out adaptation of this virgin ECU to the Car.
Not having the STAR DIAGNOSIS for this purpose, i wish to find from any user of the AVDI here if this tool (AVDI original) that i have can help to this job successfully.If yes what are the steps to follow.
Thanks
paul_12345
23rd February, 2014, 02:53 PM
All this from just your average KAP customer, why don't you get clearly to come on & clearly clarify it. Unlike you i have chosen green to play this game, it is more decisive than yellow
he has already said hes there friend, also obdmaster is one that brought the zed bull for them to abandoned it, yet I dont think he has really bad mouthed IEA and he still has brought the zed full from hickleys and supported zed full by stating it works very good does this mean he is on hickleys or IEA's payrole??
impactops
23rd February, 2014, 11:39 PM
he has already said hes there friend.
Well, that's a good point paul, it would mean that anything he says will always be biased about kap.He would never say anything negative (even if it is true) so that he doesn't jeopardize his friendship.It's been demonstrated numerous times, when members are crying foul, that they've been ripped off, obdmaster is there supporting kap like a good friend should.
Now Paul, that is a problem Paul, when members come on here asking for advice they don't give a fvuck about obdmasters friendship, they want non biased advice so they can decide where to spend there hard earned cash, if they are constantly being given information that favours KAP even if the information is not true then they should only take advice given by obdmaster on face value since anything he says will lack substance and his friendship will always get in the way.
Every now & then, i mention members Clearly & Smalliron which they tend to ignore, ask them why?
I don't expect them to respond, a good friend is always loyal
Regards
Impactops
ninja123
24th February, 2014, 09:19 AM
back to the thread::
I got new ford key stuff from KAP only to find out it needs internet access, this is not stated anywhere prior to purchase - and I hate internet needy tools :(
Also a 5 hour wait and the later models, looks like i need a generator in the van now too (and a bed) ZZZzzzz.
ninja
obdmaster
24th February, 2014, 09:27 AM
back to the thread::
I got new ford key stuff from KAP only to find out it needs internet access, this is not stated anywhere prior to purchase - and I hate internet needy tools :(
Also a 5 hour wait and the later models, looks like i need a generator in the van now too (and a bed) ZZZzzzz.
ninja
Looks like internet is needed on both systems m8, I think lots of tools will need internet soon. Dont forget ford dealer also needs internet to program keys on newer fords.
4 hour wait time is only on 2013+ cars which were not going to see that many of yet. If you watch video posted on KAP forum there example took 40 mins.
foxtec800
24th February, 2014, 09:52 AM
i think its early days on the 2012+ vehicles and that wait time will be reduced as time goes by
also the online system is probably due to the the calculations involved in `Breaking` the modules, And to stop clone users from getting access :joyous:
key point
24th February, 2014, 10:01 AM
In a nut shell dont go out to anything after 62 reg (uk) apart from Transit. up to 4 hours is too long to chance. I struggle to keep a internet link for 4 mins on the road let alone 4 hours lol.
totalkey
24th February, 2014, 10:08 AM
some technical issue please
2 times with polo 1998 mp9 ecu , i couldnt success to read ecu for pin code
any help please
paul_12345
24th February, 2014, 10:24 AM
i think its early days on the 2012+ vehicles and that wait time will be reduced as time goes by
also the online system is probably due to the the calculations involved in `Breaking` the modules, And to stop clone users from getting access :joyous:
wonder if they are using ford online some how to do these.
impactops
24th February, 2014, 10:34 AM
wonder if they are using ford online some how to do these.
I would suggest that the kap supporters explain this thoroughly, cause the last thing you would want is Abritus keeping records of all the jobs you've done, dumps, vins, serials of advi interface so they know Who, When, Where, Why.For the intelligent users is suggest they network ****yzer software to log see exactly what is being sent.
Regards
Impactops
ninja123
24th February, 2014, 10:44 AM
" Dont forget ford dealer also needs internet to program keys on newer fords."
But ford dealers dont work out of a van !!
ninja
impactops
24th February, 2014, 10:59 AM
" Dont forget ford dealer also needs internet to program keys on newer fords.
I think the online access would have to do with more about abritus security than the fact that the ford dealer performs this function online.I don't think any manufacturer would allow a third party to have access to this information, i would say they have worked it out, but instead of having the algo performed offline it does it online so it does not matter if the chineese reverse the software it won't contain this critical information.
Again, only the supporters can clearly clarify this
paul_12345
24th February, 2014, 12:17 PM
I think the online access would have to do with more about abritus security than the fact that the ford dealer performs this function online.I don't think any manufacturer would allow a third party to have access to this information, i would say they have worked it out, but instead of having the algo performed offline it does it online so it does not matter if the chineese reverse the software it won't contain this critical information.
Again, only the supporters can clearly clarify this
All they would need is an account with access (or a few accounts) then simply redirect the data, can't be that many brand new cars needing spare keys, could explain the time difference in some getting done quicker if they have allocated slots to use the account.
Hopefully not and they have cracked the algo and it just takes time to calc it.
rapidlocksmiths
24th February, 2014, 12:41 PM
some technical issue please
2 times with polo 1998 mp9 ecu , i couldnt success to read ecu for pin code
any help please
i dont believe any kit at present can pull the pin via obd on 1998 polo , all polo pre 2002 need to be eeprom to pull the pin from dump.
totalkey
24th February, 2014, 12:43 PM
no tool can read mp9 ecu?
rapidlocksmiths
24th February, 2014, 12:46 PM
i agree with derrick and ninja , 4 hours from the back of van is too long especially if trying to hold a signal on mobile internet for more than a few mins , if you even get a few mins in many areas.
This alone makes the job non viable for what you can charge for it in time alone.
the software will still pay for itself quickly on the earlier models up to late 2012 whilst they work on reducing time , after all no one else can do these at all at present other than those with ids and an online subscription , so its still an edge if you can get internet connection.
rapidlocksmiths
24th February, 2014, 12:47 PM
will the new software do a late 2010 early 2011 ford S max ? and is internet required ?
rapidlocksmiths
24th February, 2014, 12:50 PM
no tool can read mp9 ecu?
no tool at present pulls the pin code via obd from pre 2002 system 1 polo that im aware , the AD36 vag tool from advanced diagnostics pulls the pin by plugging directly to the immo box on these system 1 polo vehicles but not via obd
rapidlocksmiths
24th February, 2014, 12:55 PM
on the ford ive just read that only system 1 requires internet access , models up to 2012 to work out algo .
system 2 ford doesnt require internet access at all , though can take up to 4 hours , though its been working in approx 45 mins in tests so far , but can take up to 4 hours .
impactops
24th February, 2014, 02:32 PM
All they would need is an account with access (or a few accounts) then simply redirect the data, can't be that many brand new cars needing spare keys, could explain the time difference in some getting done quicker if they have allocated slots to use the account.
Hopefully not and they have cracked the algo and it just takes time to calc it.
I think you've been doing back yard jobs for so long that this kind of behaviour is considered the norm, they would be illegally accessing the system so that they can accomodate an advi function, they would be risking so much considering that they are the dominant force in the industry.Before your say "they would have one legal account", the terms & conditions of that account would make it unlawful to use it in this manner.
In most of these cases they are solved by reversing the dealer software, someone had mentioned that abritus employee's had woked for manufacturers in the past, so add that aswell to the mix & they get there solution
paul_12345
24th February, 2014, 02:55 PM
I think you've been doing back yard jobs for so long that this kind of behaviour is considered the norm, they would be illegally accessing the system so that they can accomodate an advi function, they would be risking so much considering that they are the dominant force in the industry.Before your say "they would have one legal account", the terms & conditions of that account would make it unlawful to use it in this manner.
In most of these cases they are solved by reversing the dealer software, someone had mentioned that abritus employee's had woked for manufacturers in the past, so add that aswell to the mix & they get there solution
Yes would be very underhand if they are, and I would think they wouldn't but still its not unlawful even if it is against their t&c's but probably wouldn't risk a lawsuit with ford
totalkey
24th February, 2014, 03:01 PM
i think that the pin from vin for hyundai 2008 and up was from hyundai server and after few months it stopped
ninja123
24th February, 2014, 06:29 PM
Has anyone changed laptop for using avdi? Do i need to just load the last update or everyone single one since purchased?
Bloody laptop got shut in car door by idiot customer today :(
ninja
rapidlocksmiths
24th February, 2014, 06:38 PM
i may be wrong mate , but i believe its last full update then the small add on updates , though may be wrong on this
foxtec800
24th February, 2014, 06:43 PM
agree with Rapid, install last common file and specific serial number install, then just the small update files after and you should be good to go
done the same on another pc today and all working ok.
haroutioun
24th February, 2014, 06:52 PM
Has anyone changed laptop for using avdi? Do i need to just load the last update or everyone single one since purchased?
Bloody laptop got shut in car door by idiot customer today :(
ninja
Hi.
yes if you have setup (interface commo) + last update setup, you can install and it will be all ok.
key point
24th February, 2014, 07:13 PM
Do it the easy way mate, contact KAP and tell them your lap top has crashed and you need a full new link.
obdmaster
24th February, 2014, 07:38 PM
Was just going to say that Derick
ninja123
24th February, 2014, 07:44 PM
Do it the easy way mate, contact KAP and tell them your lap top has crashed and you need a full new link.
LOL!! I would love to do it that way but I can just imagine the abuse I would get!!
ps - when was the last update that I could use?
ninja
key point
24th February, 2014, 08:10 PM
you wont get no abuse mate, and at least you will know its fully updated instead of messing around with several links of which some may now be broken.
key point
24th February, 2014, 08:13 PM
Just ask nicely and the worst that can happen is you may be called an idiot lol.
impactops
24th February, 2014, 09:47 PM
Yes would be very underhand if they are, and I would think they wouldn't but still its not unlawful even if it is against their t&c's but probably wouldn't risk a lawsuit with ford
It's unlawful, it's similar to when someone had posted PSA vin to pin calc, it accessed the server by logging in with some dealers account, the terms & conditions page had every miss use covered.The same applies for the multidiag keygen, it accesses the server in order to generate the code. I would find it difficult to believe that a company like abritus would resort to these tactics in providing a service.At the end of the day it all boils down to whether you can patent an algo because it would not make a difference if you managed to work it out on your own with no inside help or online access it would be patented by the manufacturer and therefore unlawfaul to use without their permission
Regards
Impactops
obdsystems
24th February, 2014, 10:22 PM
ford don't give a damn. ford will update the algorithm in time and the aftermarket will try to crack again
impactops
24th February, 2014, 10:26 PM
ford don't give a damn. ford will update the algorithm in time and the aftermarket will try to crack again
That's what JC thought about mercedes, claimed he had a close relationship with them
gttuning
24th February, 2014, 10:57 PM
hi is swapping second hand ccm in passat works? i try to load ccm dump but its not showing me cs and pin.any body use this with success?
thanks
Atex31
25th February, 2014, 12:05 AM
Has anyone changed laptop for using avdi? Do i need to just load the last update or everyone single one since purchased?
Bloody laptop got shut in car door by idiot customer today :(
ninja
Didn't you get a new update on the 19th mate?
You should have had a common file followed by a licence file specific to your interface.
Install the common file 1st followed by your licence file.
I have it installed on 3 laptops and 2 PC's ;)
cqae
25th February, 2014, 04:58 AM
i can confim that, if you run the latest common file then update it be be run off as many computers as you like.......
ecufix
25th February, 2014, 07:35 AM
Hi could you please post links for third party software that works with original abrites interface , thanks regards
eliasole
25th February, 2014, 08:09 AM
Hi could you please post links for third party software that works with original abrites interface , thanks regards
Here is Hyundai friend.
ninja123
25th February, 2014, 08:31 AM
the links from the 19th state 'RENAULT' on the link, thats why i havnt gone down this route as it looks like just an update for the renault section and dont include everything else, but ill do it today and let you know, regards ninja
ninja123
25th February, 2014, 08:53 AM
Here is Hyundai friend.
Any more links for software to use with AVDI?
Or a list of what can be used?
ninja
eliasole
25th February, 2014, 08:59 AM
I have working , toyota , hyundai atm.
I found toyota link to upload to.
eliasole
25th February, 2014, 09:07 AM
And here the toyota i use.
keysph
25th February, 2014, 09:31 AM
new AVDI user forum Abrites Forum ,AVDI Forum, Abrites Commander Forum ? Index page (http://www.avdi-forum.com/) for those who want to join
A good initiative as KAP diagnostics introduced assist plans and their forum is no longer accessible.
impactops
25th February, 2014, 11:24 AM
new AVDI user forum Abrites Forum ,AVDI Forum, Abrites Commander Forum ? Index page (http://www.avdi-forum.com/) for those who want to join.
They would welcome me with open arms? :laugh:
chriskross
25th February, 2014, 11:52 AM
new AVDI user forum Abrites Forum ,AVDI Forum, Abrites Commander Forum ? Index page (http://www.avdi-forum.com/) for those who want to join
A good initiative as KAP diagnostics introduced assist plans and their forum is no longer accessible.
Yes good alternative. :D
I m interrest how much users are now in the kap forum, i m sure not so much as before the started with there great assist plan. :banghead:
keysph
25th February, 2014, 12:02 PM
They would welcome me with open arms? :laugh:
You could join but... don't think you can help any AVDI user.
In fact I did not seen any of your post helping in Immo or locksmith section of any user.
impactops
25th February, 2014, 12:52 PM
You could join but... don't think you can help any AVDI user.
In fact I did not seen any of your post helping in Immo or locksmith section of any user.
It depends on what your definition of help is?
Making people aware of it's faults is not helping?
Not in the sense that you're refering to, only in odo section indirectly algo for puegot BCM
Regards
Impactops
obdsystems
25th February, 2014, 01:37 PM
Yes good alternative. :D
I m interrest how much users are now in the kap forum, i m sure not so much as before the started with there great assist plan. :banghead:
Don't like helping others on a forum for free when i have to pay to use that forum. made that clear on the KAP forum and was thus removed lol
so thanks, i will check out this new forum. PS would there be clone users or just genuine ???
I'd like to protect my investment a tad -
obdsystems
25th February, 2014, 01:44 PM
It depends on what your definition of help is?
Making people aware of it's faults is not helping?
Not in the sense that you're refering to, only in odo section indirectly algo for puegot BCM
Regards
Impactops
Constructive help plz my friend. All tools have there faults. At times i wanted to throw the AVDI against a brick wall, but still its a great tool.
Well i've joined the forum - looks good so far :)
hopefully fallen, obdmaster, drakvo ninja mate Alen and others have joined !!!
totalkey
25th February, 2014, 01:53 PM
its look that this forum build by abritus company? if yes , sound good
obdsystems
25th February, 2014, 01:59 PM
see you soon there my friend totalkey :) :)
we can all help each other
keysph
25th February, 2014, 02:29 PM
its look that this forum build by abritus company? if yes , sound good
Don't have any info on that. Just found it and joined today. Let's hope it will grow constructive.
florinyes
25th February, 2014, 02:37 PM
Just filled in registration form too..seem to look official but then wouldn't they let us know?
topclef
25th February, 2014, 02:38 PM
Don't have any info on that. Just found it and joined today. Let's hope it will grow constructive.
no, this forum is not from abrites , also not built by Abrites company.
keysph
25th February, 2014, 02:38 PM
It depends on what your definition of help is?
Making people aware of it's faults is not helping?
Not in the sense that you're refering to, only in odo section indirectly algo for puegot BCM
Regards
Impactops
Definition of help is the same in any language, also definition of denigration is the same in any language.
drakov
25th February, 2014, 03:20 PM
Forum is owned and run by diagnoza_auto2000 I believe
rapidlocksmiths
25th February, 2014, 04:27 PM
well today i for one was over the moon to have an avdi assist package from kap , i had a nasty experience with a skoda superb throwing up a def message on mileage area after key programming , after sending logs and dump this was fixed and car back to full health via teamviewer and the kap team .
i had tried everything i knew to remove this and got no where , reset wouldnt fix it , so my assist package has already paid its way this year , they couldnt have been any more helpful and efficient to resolve this , so my customer happy and paid , so im happy .
and as such i can say from experience that you cant underestimate the value of good support , especially when you find you need it .
the assist package is only a waste of money if you dont ever need it , today i needed it and they came through with flying colours .
obdsystems
25th February, 2014, 04:39 PM
well today i for one was over the moon to have an avdi assist package from kap , i had a nasty experience with a skoda superb throwing up a def message on mileage area after key programming , after sending logs and dump this was fixed and car back to full health via teamviewer and the kap team .
i had tried everything i knew to remove this and got no where , reset wouldnt fix it , so my assist package has already paid its way this year , they couldnt have been any more helpful and efficient to resolve this , so my customer happy and paid , so im happy .
and as such i can say from experience that you cant underestimate the value of good support , especially when you find you need it .
the assist package is only a waste of money if you dont ever need it , today i needed it and they came through with flying colours .
Glad your happy Martin - Yes we all need help new n then. And whoever we go with, we end up paying in 1 form or another.
Regarding that message - i believe you can go into dash and set the mode value to "6". Same as if replacing dash.
Remember some user here (ninja ???) and mentioned in manual.
May be totally un-related of course - occasionally we are all caught out.
Good for diagnoza_auto2000 :)
rapidlocksmiths
25th February, 2014, 04:47 PM
hi
no it wasnt that straight forward steve, ive reset loads of audi a4 def errors caused by clone brigade in past , tried everything including resetting the skoda superbs vdo cluster , just wouldnt play , no idea what they did with the logs and dump , but they sorted it and very swiftly .
doesnt matter how good or knowledgable you are , you always find a time that you need some help , this is the first time ive needed tech support on a vehicle from kap and i was impressed with the service i recieved .
i could have maybe spent a few days on forums and may have got the fix , but i didnt have time if i wanted paying , so a quick fix was needed and a quick fix i got .
the only tech support in past i have had thats anywhere near this speed and quality was the support i recieved from engin at IEA in the early zedbull days .
obdmaster
25th February, 2014, 07:34 PM
new AVDI user forum Abrites Forum ,AVDI Forum, Abrites Commander Forum ? Index page (http://www.avdi-forum.com/) for those who want to join
A good initiative as KAP diagnostics introduced assist plans and their forum is no longer accessible.
Only problem being no proof needed you actually own an original AVDI, soon will be full of FVDI users.
Trying to learn how to use there clone.
Diagnose_auto2000 will not be happy if that happens.
keysph
25th February, 2014, 07:55 PM
And why tou see that as being a problem? A clone is limited and using it could be the step before buying the original.
obdmaster
25th February, 2014, 08:05 PM
And why tou see that as being a problem? A clone is limited and using it could be the step before buying the original.
Because when a clone user starts a thread about a problem he,s having or the damage he,s done to a car. An original avdi user might read there thread unaware that thread author was using clone, and when original AVDI user gets same job he wont take job on , in fear of damaging car. When in fact original would do car no problem.
obdsystems
25th February, 2014, 10:14 PM
hi
no it wasnt that straight forward steve, ive reset loads of audi a4 def errors caused by clone brigade in past , tried everything including resetting the skoda superbs vdo cluster , just wouldnt play , no idea what they did with the logs and dump , but they sorted it and very swiftly .
doesnt matter how good or knowledgable you are , you always find a time that you need some help , this is the first time ive needed tech support on a vehicle from kap and i was impressed with the service i recieved .
i could have maybe spent a few days on forums and may have got the fix , but i didnt have time if i wanted paying , so a quick fix was needed and a quick fix i got .
the only tech support in past i have had thats anywhere near this speed and quality was the support i recieved from engin at IEA in the early zedbull days .
True. i expect KAP (being just salesmen) went back to Abritus software team. As my support is "direct", maybe even quicker for me lol
impactops
25th February, 2014, 11:11 PM
You people never cease to amaze me, another con job.There was talk some time back that Abritus were going to start their own forum, when were you going to tell them keysph that the forum is run by a DK member.Unless that DK member works for Abritus it will be no different that what you have here, advice provided by user experience rather than information coming directly out of the horses mouth.As obdsystems has pointed out, why would anyone being charged for joining a forum provide information for free
The turf wars have started, as if obdmaster administrators over there won't be able seperate discussions between clones & genuine, i guess you have recieved your instructions from Kap to point out the pitfalls of joining.Rapid was also quick to point out that without the assist plan he would of slashed his wrists. I don't want to disappoint you rapid, if i have a problem with the airconditioner in the car & i ring support for help cause i can't be stuffed reading the manual they will charge me if no fault is found, but if i've read the manual, followed the instructions to the letter then they are obligated to help at no charge
So if you contacted abritus directly they would of been obligated to fix it without have the need of a Kap Con Assist Plan
Regards
Impactops
rapidlocksmiths
25th February, 2014, 11:31 PM
Ah Thrush , you rear your pathetic head and spout your pathetic drivel again , now i have been polite enough not to post on any of your drivel or posts , and as requested before please refrain from responding to me or my posts , i have no interest in dialogue with you , nor will i enter into such , sorry but i wont bite , i choose not to converse with you and as such i dont , please refrain from doing so with me .
I actually own and use an avdi on a daily basis , i actually have an assist package from kap that like many others i paid for , and that is the extent of my relationship with them , i am not a personal friend , nor a colleague and nor am i an employee , if i post about anything to do with avdi or any machine a tool , supplier or job , the post is factual and based upon real life experience as a customer or actually working as an auto locksmith , which is far more real than a keyboard warriors supposition and verbal squits .
so as requested in the past thrush , refrain from commenting on any post i make , i wont exchange dialogue with you now or in the future , as nothing you post or say is ever based on fact or knowledge , you just like to play childish games to feed your pathetic ego , to who knows what pointless end .
impactops
26th February, 2014, 12:12 AM
True. i expect KAP (being just salesmen) went back to Abritus software team. As my support is "direct", maybe even quicker for me lol
This is exactly the point i've been making to the kap supporters and somone like obdsytems who owns one has proven that point.
I feel sorry for the "Advi tips only" thread that's been created, it won't be long before the KAP supporters infiltrate that thread to prevent problem solving discussions from taking place, otherwise why join a paid forum like Kap and a paid Assist con plan from Kap when any legitimate (non user) problems would be solved by abritus for free and discussions regarding users experience also free on the Advi tips only thread
ecufix
26th February, 2014, 07:59 AM
And here the toyota i use.
Excuse the ignorance but how do I use the link :embarassed:
gttuning
26th February, 2014, 08:52 AM
Forum is owned and run by diagnoza_auto2000 I believe
This is the forum of our Romanian dealers.
obdsystems
26th February, 2014, 09:44 AM
honestly impactops my comment was only friendly banter - save arguments for customers who don't pay lol
Good for KAP if they offer a good service - they will keep their customers happy.
Hay guys i have a dash swap on Audi A3 '00 this lunch time - my extra direction is to also do garage stuff - matching n programming n electrical probs
Gonna just read it with AVDI n write new. then i have to do that number 6 value right !! manual it
i shall over come n conquer :)
obdsystems
26th February, 2014, 09:47 AM
PS. would be nice to see more people use that forum (Martin, Alan ?, Ninja) :)
but then this DK is great. Your all here !!
gttuning are you Abritus ?? you used the work "our" suggesting you are! hi !! :)
rapidlocksmiths
26th February, 2014, 09:54 AM
im sure many more will post on the new forum steve once comfortable to do so , we all post info we are comfortable posting , any new forum takes a while to get into its stride .
as has been said its not limited to avdi owners at present so i guess some are waiting to see which way it goes .
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