avdi users questions!

[rapidlocksmiths]

ive almost given up on avdi with vag kline , more failures to complete programming than success , i use avdi to pull pin and vcds to code key , vag kline did once work before the 1st round of licence jiggles , now vag kline is unreliable so i stop using avdi on these as waste of time too often. this issue has been for years with zero bug fixes in this time , some functions are good on vag so still used , but kline not good any longer and fallen behind even the china kit in my opinion, im just hoping the latest licence jiggles wont mean even more unworking coverage that used to work.

i only use it for key programming and have to say on whole , renault , psa , vauxhall opel , fiat have all been very good for me , even mitsi has been ok , nissan and renault i prefer my truecode but still used it , ive used hyundai but old now and i use gscan on these now , vag i still use alot on non kline models .

diagnostics for keys seems to be a rocky business , cryptoworks and iea with zedbull screwed their customers , im hoping abrites dont follow same road. they are looking like having a cash grab at moment and aiming their promo again at new users to tempt more in , good deals for new users always, but with existing users being ignored or forgotten mostly , its good at the top but its a long way down if you fall.

im happy with alot of avdi functions , but im unhappy with some and dissapointed with others too , with more and more turning to xhorse and vvdi2 im shocked abrites are not doing more to please and keep existing users in the fold, rather than driving us away .

im happy with psa , vauxhall , fiat and renault , when ive used ford as back up to other kit its worked out for me thus far , mitsi and hyundai have done what ive asked to date , just falling behind now as development has slowed alot , avdi has earnt me well for years and i do hope this isnt all bad signs of bad times to come , the contempt they treat existing users with is unfair and the silence speaks volumes .

i have always defended and praised avdi in the past , but its become very difficult to defend them in recent times , i had intended buying bmw licences in current promo , but dont feel i can take the risk at this time, if killing cars with no support or back up then a risk too far for the cost , so abrites loss will be another manufacturers gain sadly. if i want tools that carry such risks id buy from china . i had hoped i would be told abrites bmw is safe and convinced me to buy , but doesnt seem to be the case sadly , and im mindful of the claim that jag and LR software was safe to use .

sad times , i wish i knew what was going on at abrites as it seems like a different company and different developers than abrites of old that wowed us all , i hate the thought of swallowing pride and buying into zedfull instead .

[gttuning]

I wounder where is someone form abrites ltd. to explain few things or make some sort of comments 🤔🤔🤔🤔

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[rapidlocksmiths]

this is a concern too , the silence speaks volumes and fuels concern , im shocked we have no response from alekn . they dont seem to take critisism well or react to it positively , its like a different company and different developers than abrites of past , i hope it all gets straightened out and faith gets restored again , or we all have some expensive paper weights

[isma123]

i connect many opel for my avdi and do some job - yes.

BTW
Renewing keys special functions it's also a big joke - my friend buy this shit and in new update abrites limited only to few models (5-10). They withdrew from sale land rover, gm, peugeot (it's disapear from price list also). So be careful.


this function is from tls much cheaper if you buy new tls interface more stabe lwith all activations

[Hugh91]

After considering all things I decided that I will purchase the promotion for avdi today and few modules, I really had hoped the Subaru can do what it says on the tin for G bladed + smart with all keys lost but this may not be the case from issues outlined in this thread. I can see major concerns if someone purchased avdi interface and spent a fortune loading it up as their primary diagnostic tool with no plan B and if programming fails for any reason and no after sales support would be very frustrating. I will use this tool for where it can save me time and keep my eyes peeled on how these issues are handled or as it seems at the moment rather, aren't.

[whiskeyman]

You were warned
welcome to the money black hole

[joemajdalani]

After considering all things I decided that I will purchase the promotion for avdi today and few modules, I really had hoped the Subaru can do what it says on the tin for G bladed + smart with all keys lost but this may not be the case from issues outlined in this thread. I can see major concerns if someone purchased avdi interface and spent a fortune loading it up as their primary diagnostic tool with no plan B and if programming fails for any reason and no after sales support would be very frustrating. I will use this tool for where it can save me time and keep my eyes peeled on how these issues are handled or as it seems at the moment rather, aren't.

I'm sure you'll be happy with Subaru,we have done many new Subaru's here,Australian Opel pin reading & ECU cloning works on many models here.

[shafo]

Let's all mail support@avdi and tell them about this thread..I'm not sure if there will be any reply but I think it's worth a try...I so badly want to buy on this promo...but I'm way too scared of the risk....

[norman1967]

Let's all mail support@avdi and tell them about this thread..I'm not sure if there will be any reply but I think it's worth a try...I so badly want to buy on this promo...but I'm way too scared of the risk....

No need to be scared. Did you say you wanted opel and subaru? Just buy one manufacturer earn you money back then if happy invest in another if required.

I bought Ford

For me right now I don't need any other Licence.

I'm in a good position I do feel for some of the lads here
Especially hass.

My ford only works if the server is still running. Can anybody confirm if this is the same for opel and suburu?

[whiskeyman]

Have you tried your ford on the keyless entry stuff ?
absolute rubbish

again many bugs
again never been fixed

[norman1967]

Have you tried your ford on the keyless entry stuff ?
absolute rubbish

again many bugs
again never been fixed

I have yes it's worked for me 99% on everything I've asked which included 2015 ford keyless models.

Only time it let me down on a keyless was a 2013 fiesta it would not let me add 1 key it wanted me to erase all known first. I used another tool as did not have a second keyless at the time.

[whiskeyman]

Your having a bugger success rate than me mate
have to turn to Chinese tools many times to do job

[JFR-Tuning]

My W203 was not successful. Mercedes-Benz CLC200, year 2010. You asked to renew the ESL before extracting the password. I chose not to risk ...

Hallo M8,

testet solution for change ESL (used ) you don't extract pass . Make vergin ESL with Internet Connection , push to personlis and ready

[JFR-Tuning]

Question Audi key for Q5 2008 I bought a key in China 8T0.959.754. "C"

i can not teach it

any M8 test this China keys on which audi it works ?

[gttuning]

I think some just exaggerate the problem a bit here.
I still think its worth to invest in avdi.
Just hoping that someone up in abrites ltd.will wake up and understand that pushing new stuff out and dont fix bugs its a high speed chase on a twisted road with many trees and eventually they will hit one.
Hope they working on to start fixing bugs.
About buying interface in this promo i dont think i would do it as avdi with out special functions its no fun.



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[rapidlocksmiths]

most involved in key programming will be happy with opel , renault , psa , and fiat licences , for the cost of them hyundai and mitsi are quick payback token savers if using token kit , vag has alot of positives outside of kline functions at present , so still a good unit on many functions.

for me i was looking to add a good bmw solution and hoped the accusation of killing cars was an exageration , im not yet convinced to invest in it due to 1 dead car killing payback for a long time potentially.

ford has for me paid its way , its not my 1st choice or even 2nd choice tool on ford , but it has paid its way.

avoid jaguar and land rover after reading the experience of hass.

the big worry is of course the 30 day clock and the need for connection to there server for many functions now , if for some reason they close the doors all of our investments die and become scrap as none will work any longer , this is a concern and one i hope il never encounter , as such a move kills all of our investments old and new.

i just wanted to be convinced bmw was safe to use , i have not been convinced as yet , still a few days left of promotion to maybe turn this around and change my mind .

just remember , as with other kit , if the crap hits the fan then you are totally on your own despite the investment cost.

[gttuning]

Hi guys.
Steering lock on passat 2009 1.6tdi pcr2.1 ecu.
Can avdi program them.?

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[solitaire]

For adapt new elv to passat no need avdi.
vcds or any other tool
go to 25 immobiliser
enter login code
go to adaptation
51 chanel enter login code, test, save
if 51 chanel not available go to 50

[gttuning]

For adapt new elv to passat no need avdi.
vcds or any other tool
go to 25 immobiliser
enter login code
go to adaptation
51 chanel enter login code, test, save
if 51 chanel not available go to 50
Yes on edc16 but pcr2.1? I think its diffrenet.maybe im wrong

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[gttuning]

For adapt new elv to passat no need avdi.
vcds or any other tool
go to 25 immobiliser
enter login code
go to adaptation
51 chanel enter login code, test, save
if 51 chanel not available go to 50
Works..chanel 51.

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[garagetech007]

hi can someone let me know the pass from the dump below its from eclass 2006 thanks?

[autoTkey]

This thread is not the right place, so now you know.
Here's your pass:
439125

[garagetech007]

Sorry to post this here Thanks for that info can you also renew and virgin my keys or virgin the dump .

After programming third abritkey the whole ezs stop working . Coming up on dash transfering data when third used key inserted and now nothing no turning however when I unplug module and plug backnin then works for a short time

Whats the way to solve this ? can i virgin ezs and reinitialise activate or any other procedure



Please boys

Thanks

[gttuning]

Off topic..
Did any one seen price for update for airbags in codecard lt.
For 2017 500 euros😂😂😂😂.
Some one got crazy a bit there.

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[i-vtec]

Off topic..
Did any one seen price for update for airbags in codecard lt.
For 2017 500 euros.
Some one got crazy a bit there.

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i see this few days ago - they are crazy idots! 500 euro for non tested solution! heheh!

BTW. Codecard also is a cheater - when i buy carprog full on airbag site was wrote that feature update is in price, next when nobody buy carprog he relese update for function we alredy have - this is not fair! But as we know this company is on end of the road - nothing new from years - he dies...

[nazz2]

Has anyone used their avdi after this March update?

[FUSED:]

Has anyone used their avdi after this March update?

For me soon, I star downloading links


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[gttuning]

Has anyone used their avdi after this March update?
Hehe i not update yet.why any problems.

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[nazz2]

LOL, no mate just wondering if bugs/some bugs gone!, its scary when they are updating firmware, don't know what they are up to!

[rapidlocksmiths]

i updated yetserday and yes firmware update and protag update . i havnt used it yet since update , so watch this space

[whiskeyman]

well the opel still working fine with new update

[nazz2]

I have to do a spare OEM Vauxhall Moka 2014. tmro, will post result.

[gttuning]

Focus 2015 key programing ok.
Will update my tool later.

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[tkmotors]

mercede BE key still not support

[FUSED:]

mercede BE key still not support

Did you test it?


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[tkmotors]

yes I did today but no lack

[tkmotors]

after update special function mercedes DAS 3 is not working
I cant check, erase,program key
anybody test it?

[phayz]

after update special function mercedes DAS 3 is not working
I cant check, erase,program key
anybody test it?

Haven't used DAS 3 special function, but DAS Manager special function is working and was able to write a BE key for W204 (pass extracted on the bench). Key works, but haven't tested the remote.

[tkmotors]

test it two BE key but protag not recognise them at all

[lush29]

Think we should go back and buy chinese tools. They are very cheap no updates and no support but at least we pay cheap money for them and we can aspect to much and will not be disappointed.

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[offsystem]

I need to Install new ESL for crafter, when i put Key in ignition nothing happends just Immo light in cluster.
Can i learn new ESL with avdi MB Commander??

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[lupu_sandu]

I have only one BE key left, but protag can see BE keys now

[Mario3]

But its still not much worth, from my 6 BE keys, it reads 4, and one of them stopped to be recognised, so only 3 can be read by protag trough DAS manager.

I still dont find it nothing special cause it lacking a lot that other tools have, for example it cant read Eis pass from BE key, but that should come in next "BIG" benz update...

and they still dont make nothing that is not a long time on the maket, so still only running after others...

[gttuning]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170330/92589b04037bb2ea1b30ca738c9b5b6c.jpg
Done milage on 2015 peugeot 208..no problem here quick job.
Avdi not fit to clear dtc in ecu.

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[florinyes]

Finaly they cover some Caddy sharan dashes after 2014. Tried a 15 plate Caddy and a 14 Sharan and worked. Surprised what to say?


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[gttuning]

Finaly they cover some Caddy sharan dashes after 2014. Tried a 15 plate Caddy and a 14 Sharan and worked. Surprised what to say?


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Tool at this cost should do dashes from 2015 in 2016 not 2years latter.

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[rapidlocksmiths]

ive been looking at further investment in adding bmw to avdi , but the issues some are experiencing here with cas 3+ has made me think twice . im currently looking at the pros and cons of avdi bmw vs multi tool vs vvdi vs the new AK-OBD tool , and i have to admit its looking less likely that avdi will get my investment after recent issues, surprisingly no matter how i look at it and weigh it up , the vvdi 2 and this AK-OBD tool seem to be comming out on top .

i accept buying from china is limited support , but then so is abrites by what ive read , i suspect im not the only one thats looking elsewhere for bmw coverage after reading threads .

ive not totally ruled out avdi bmw , but its looking more prudent to invest elsewhere for now sadly.

i look at companies like advanced diagnostics that have been around longer than most , they dont invent new ways to squeeze more money out of you by jiggling things around , their programmer wont die after 30 days if they close their doors , once you own it you own it , no need for ams etc , they are safe to deal with , it seems some euro developers are a huge risk , iea and cryptoworks all shot their customers down , now abrites taking licences away to sell them , jiggling licences to get more money out of users , ceasing support even when their kit kills a car .
i expect this from cheap china , but not from premium tools , and the constant threat of if they close their doors your tool investment is also dead .

id love to keep investing in avdi , but they have made this very difficult to do with any confidence at present , i hope things change so faith gets restored in future and we get the abrites of old back at some point.

[nazz2]

What the hell is going on with them/Alek!!! tried standard/wizard key programming to add a remote key to a polo 2008,1.2 petrol, vdo dash,when the blue bar starts, the program disappears, this is getting beyond the joke now!!!!!!!!! did it with ad in seconds|!

[habbyb]

What the hell is going on with them try standard/wizard key programming to add a remote key to a polo 2008, when the blue bar starts, the program disappears, this is getting beyond the joke now!!!!!!!!! did it with ad in seconds|!
Hello mate,you are right today I tried to ad key polo 2007 engene R3 1,4L EDC 0000SG desel dash board kombiinstrument AGD V04 , response unknown engin tipe,I tried a second time and the program disappears and i have not found any channel to program remote control. Good luck for everyone.

[i-vtec]

~~~~ING SHIT!

Today test on Opel Insignia and Opel Astra J - read dtc from ECU ok but when i click clear error codes i have a info that "invalid format/operation not supported" - so this crap can't even clear errors!
Logout and login modules don't work - i have info "ok" but nothings change!

Yesterday VW with VDO NEC +2009 dash - don't working go to service mode by obd! (frozen window).

Renault Megane III - avdi connect to immo after 3 times attempts - program cards ok but in window with identification width type of card (hf or only remote) i have info "undefined"...

so same shit as always for that big money - big shit for big money

[ThiagoArgentino]

Is anyone having problems with BMW Online now after the last update?


I'm with a BMW, X6, M series, year 2010. I can not record new key. He says positions in CAS are not illegible.


Has anyone had this problem?

[whiskeyman]

as stated before

this no longer the tool we used to praise

time to move on

[gttuning]

I wounder where is abrites staff.
Normaly someone would make some coments.
Maybe its time to have a chat with them on abrites facebook page.
It looks like its active every day.

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[shafo]

I wounder where is abrites staff.
Normaly someone would make some coments.
Maybe its time to have a chat with them on abrites facebook page.
It looks like its active every day.

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I agree with this....the lack of replies here can possibly be ignored by others but facebook is a major media platform...would be crazy of them to ignore questions there

[rapidlocksmiths]

What the hell is going on with them/Alek!!! tried standard/wizard key programming to add a remote key to a polo 2008,1.2 petrol, vdo dash,when the blue bar starts, the program disappears, this is getting beyond the joke now!!!!!!!!! did it with ad in seconds|!this is common , i only used to have to revert to other kit on certain models of certain years , now on vag kline its become so frequent that i now use other kit first , supervag and ad normally get job done . we got the initial kline issues after the 1st licence jiggle , remained unfixed , now another licence jiggle and its getting worse. ive just accepted not to use avdi for vag kline , better to use other kit on these . im just hoping nothing else is affected after recent update. this reaffirms my decision to invest elsewhere sadly. whats happening at abrites is the million doller question we all want answers to at present , something really isnt right at present.

[norman1967]

Just a thought last update Feb while I was updating my anti virus was alerting me to all kinds of threats I decided not to update. Spoke to my dealer who ashurred me it was fine. I still never updated. Since then all there faults you guys see.. is this linked? Maybe the server is infected?? Just a thought

[rapidlocksmiths]

i cant see this being the issue with once working kline functions not working as we have lived with these for years since 1st licence jiggle , i hope it is something like this that gets fixed and we get bugs sorted and start having some faith in them again , as really had hoped it would be a much longer term investment .

not alot of new development or even new ground breaking functions , ending support unless paid for via kap , more and more bugs being found in previously working functions , cars being bricked with no back up or support , a total wall of silence rather than responses aimed at calming things , rejiggling licences to raise more cash , removal of free suburu and make it a paid licence to get cash , latest cash grab aimed at new users again , all paints a very dim picture .

i hope the wall of silence is because they are all busy and burning the midnight oil to fix things swiftly , as i for one would like more than anything to have faith in this investment again to continue investing in it , so fingers crossed

i have always praised and defended avdi in past , i would like to have the confidence to do so again , but something at abrites has changed and its just not the same , i hope they turn things around and get their customers back onside soon

[gttuning]

I agree with this....the lack of replies here can possibly be ignored by others but facebook is a major media platform...would be crazy of them to ignore questions there
Im sure best man for representing us from this thread would be
i-vtec with his comprehensive english language😉😉😉

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[PremierD]

"i hope the wall of silence is because they are all busy and burning the midnight oil to fix things swiftly "

More likely its because they are of on holiday with all the money they screwed out of their stupid... sorry loyal customers ..lol

[isma123]

I DONT HAVE ANY FACEBOOK ACCOUNT !
I WOULD BE THE FIRST

BUT I'M KNOWN IN FORUM

AND HOPE TO MOVE TINGS FORWARDS

[totalkey]

Avdi successful destroy Nissan note k11 when adding spare key, now original remote doesn't work.
What a shame

[lush29]

hi all,
i need you help please.
i bought the tag tool 5 months ago and i am serios i hardly use it maybe 2-3 times max a week as i am not busy with car keys.
today after update is first time i use it and try an 2002 audi key,well guess what i am serios my tag tool is not recognized anymore i am trying in the last 2hours.
the light is flasing but programer not found. do you think is anything to do with the update? or is just hw broke after few times use??
but let me tell you this very frustrating when you pay $$$$$ alot and is not working,worst then chinese f... hate this.
please advice...

[whiskeyman]

Avdi successful destroy Nissan note k11 when adding spare key, now original remote doesn't work.
What a shame

so car starting now but remote side not coding in?

[ecuremap1]

so car starting now but remote side not coding in?

I've had that mvp sorted it

[totalkey]

Avdi adding a key to dump and write it back, I guess it's ~~~~ed up the coding

[i-vtec]

hi all,
i need you help please.
i bought the tag tool 5 months ago and i am serios i hardly use it maybe 2-3 times max a week as i am not busy with car keys.
today after update is first time i use it and try an 2002 audi key,well guess what i am serios my tag tool is not recognized anymore i am trying in the last 2hours.
the light is flasing but programer not found. do you think is anything to do with the update? or is just hw broke after few times use??
but let me tell you this very frustrating when you pay $$$$$ alot and is not working,worst then chinese f... hate this.
please advice...


this is not true abrites don't sell tag prog from may 2016!!!

[lush29]

this is not true abrites don't sell tag prog from may 2016!!!
Sorry m8 protag thenhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170331/ae116ecd0274fc3f912af0f70d9a690e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170331/112e2cce2917d1bc6e1ceb274e5198aa.jpg

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[totalkey]

Avdi adding a key to dump and write it back, I guess it's ~~~~ed up the coding

[lush29]

problem solved by kap support

[whiskeyman]

i still can bring myself to buy this plastic box protag with a copper wire for 600-850 euro or what ever it is

[amigokola]

They should develope one peace handy tool like VVDI did with VVDI2 and than charge money for it, not that unhandy additional peace of plastic...


i still can bring myself to buy this plastic box protag with a copper wire for 600-850 euro or what ever it is

[gttuning]

Guys im going to a micra 2007 lost keys.can pin be read by obd or some direct conection.
Thanks

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[rapidlocksmiths]

problem solved by kap supportmy protag is same , it is not recognised if connected to avdi after update , but it is recogniosed if connected to pc instead , ive contacted kap support tonight . was the fix by teamviewer or simple diy fix ?

[lush29]

my protag is same , it is not recognised if connected to avdi after update , but it is recogniosed if connected to pc instead , ive contacted kap support tonight . was the fix by teamviewer or simple diy fix ?
By tv firmware update

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[rapidlocksmiths]

well the response i just had from kap support was that protag should not be connected to avdi by serial lead and should always be connected to pc via usb lead , doesnt explain why it used to work when connected to avdi but now wont , but is still fine connected to pc by usb

[hass42]

How do I know what is appropriate software to write in DME?
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170401/9c0a93f592f154802e332442f8855889.jpg

[i-vtec]

Thank you for this pic!

Look everybody how do these stinks treat us?

Database software version: E070-14-11-500

Actual version is: E070-16-11-500

It is 2 years without update PSdZData!!!

When he relese BMW online he say "bla bla bla always last psdzdata version bla bla bla shit etc".

Don't update any ecu with this old shit. Buy orginal ICOM Next and update with ISTA/P.

[i-vtec]

BTW you car software is from 2016 year, avdi shit bmw online has database from 2014 so this E70 is to new to do this by avdi!!!

:guns::banghead::withstupid:

E70 to new for tool that cost that big money!! This is even joke it's pathetic...

[hass42]

BTW you car software is from 2016 year, avdi shit bmw online has database from 2014 so this E70 is to new to do this by avdi!!!

:guns::banghead::withstupid:

E70 to new for tool that cost that big money!! This is even joke it's pathetic...
Omg, I can't win with this.
I swear I decided not to show what Abrites response was to my Jaguar nightmare.

It's too embarrassing for them and I'm not trying to trash the company, but be very very aware.
Completely blame me and then said to get on TV again to see if they can fix...Then said that this forum full of hate, and no money compensation no matter what.

Bad

Hass42

[nazz2]

Go on, what have you got to lose?

[i-vtec]

if this forum is full of hate that abrites is full of shit, lie and cheat...

the truth hurts

i try about 5 years to be nice for them - and they always give me shit...

[hass42]

I just purchased last year and I thought I was getting cream of the crop.
It has done tons for me well , Broly takes certain things that'll make you have a bad taste forever.
Like others I'm not giving up yet, can't afford to, but I am hoping something changes within company for better.

Hass42

[rapidlocksmiths]

in fairness abrites was the cream of the crop for a good few years , others have since caught up including the chinese , especially the chinese even , for some reason development has slowed down at present time .

i cannot say the tool is crap , it has served me very well over the years and still does , yes they have made some very strange decisions recently , figured ways out to get more cash from us and made some decisions that has upset many of there existing customers even driving some away , but it is unfair to call the product crap in my opinion , its far from crap.
i am happy to defend the product as a good tool and not crap , but i cannot defend the recent decisions and treatment of existing users , which have been poor , nor can i defend the situations as hass has encountered recently as for these i believe the critisism at least is well founded.

due to recent decisions and actions by abrites i have for now held off from further investment in functions , but i hope to have the confidence to reinvest again in future , but for now i must search elsewhere for coverage until faith is restored .

i wonder how many are in same boat , i wonder how many have held off from investment at present and how much thiese recent actions have cost abrites , i suspect more than they will make from taking suburu away and jiggling licences .

alekn , maybe if you read this thread you will understand why so many are upset , and maybe even learn that existing users are an asset to keep on board , and that the anger and resentment are due to your own actions and not just hate, in fact many offering critisism have praised and defended avdi many times over the years . i want to continue investing in avdi as a loyal customer , but this loyalty must be 2 way and the benefits must also be 2 way and not just in your favour , we all need to make a living, and at the end of the day without customers abrites ceases to be , where as keeping your customers is the route to a brighter future for all.

so please bring out new development , fix bugs that are driving people mad especially on previously working functions and inspire us into investing and treat us existing users as the asset we are and im sure you will see far less critisism and hate .

[isma123]

tried twice to update with :::::::: two fails ; with original bmw charger , save them using winkfp

[norman1967]

in fairness abrites was the cream of the crop for a good few years , others have since caught up including the chinese , especially the chinese even , for some reason development has slowed down at present time .

i cannot say the tool is crap , it has served me very well over the years and still does , yes they have made some very strange decisions recently , figured ways out to get more cash from us and made some decisions that has upset many of there existing customers even driving some away , but it is unfair to call the product crap in my opinion , its far from crap.
i am happy to defend the product as a good tool and not crap , but i cannot defend the recent decisions and treatment of existing users , which have been poor , nor can i defend the situations as hass has encountered recently as for these i believe the critisism at least is well founded.

due to recent decisions and actions by abrites i have for now held off from further investment in functions , but i hope to have the confidence to reinvest again in future , but for now i must search elsewhere for coverage until faith is restored .

i wonder how many are in same boat , i wonder how many have held off from investment at present and how much thiese recent actions have cost abrites , i suspect more than they will make from taking suburu away and jiggling licences .

alekn , maybe if you read this thread you will understand why so many are upset , and maybe even learn that existing users are an asset to keep on board , and that the anger and resentment are due to your own actions and not just hate, in fact many offering critisism have praised and defended avdi many times over the years . i want to continue investing in avdi as a loyal customer , but this loyalty must be 2 way and the benefits must also be 2 way and not just in your favour , we all need to make a living, and at the end of the day without customers abrites ceases to be , where as keeping your customers is the route to a brighter future for all.

so please bring out new development , fix bugs that are driving people mad especially on previously working functions and inspire us into investing and treat us existing users as the asset we are and im sure you will see far less critisism and hate .

Well said. Exactly how I'm feeling in regards to future investment as I wrote a while.back

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/576640-The-truth-about-original-AVDI-and-Kap-Diagnostics/page2?highlight=Real+avdi

Post 101 I think.

Let's hope they listen.

[gttuning]

When we see abrites moving out of Europe zone that will mean trouble for avdi owners.

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[habbyb]

Guys im going to a micra 2007 lost keys.can pin be read by obd or some direct conection.
Thanks

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Hello mate post here bcm or icu or label bcm or something else try to help for pin.

[gttuning]

Hello mate post here bcm or icu or label bcm or something else try to help for pin.
Just want to know if can be read by obd.

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[damih]

Hello yes automatic reading via OBD with AVDI




Just want to know if can be read by obd.

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[whiskeyman]

wish the hell they would sort out pin reading on fiat punto /grande punto etc

sick using other machines to pull the code

why cant abrities do this on a car thats 15 years old now???????

[whiskeyman]

When we see abrites moving out of Europe zone that will mean trouble for avdi owners.

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it is what it is

way its going its getting a bigger let down every month

[electromech]

When we see abrites moving out of Europe zone that will mean trouble for avdi owners.

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Was really temped to get BMW full on special but I am really scared for this company right now and I sure others are also holding back on upgrades .....I dont think they having financial issues its more maybe development issues.....lets be conservative and say there are 5 000 AMS ACTIVE USERS...thats 1 000 000 Euro thats a lot of extra monies that they never had in their budget before so I cant figure out why they not holding up there side of the deal to provide us with the best machine on the market..anyway thats my thoughts

[rapidlocksmiths]

wish the hell they would sort out pin reading on fiat punto /grande punto etc

sick using other machines to pull the code

why cant abrities do this on a car thats 15 years old now???????fiat im actually very pleased with thus far , yes on the punto models as an example the 8v 1.2 delphi system pin hasnt failed me yet but the other larger engine model on delphi system other kit is still needed for pin , but to date has done very well for me , its one of my favourite licences thus far . the car may be over 15 years old , but we have only had the key precoding and programming coverage for a few years across all diag kits so still fairly new to us , im sure all kits will widen pin reading and coverage in time . yes it has some it fails on still but on whole is good coverage and as good over all as any other kit , they all seem to have the advantages and disadvantages over the next , the key to wider coverage is multiple kits as always . we could slate AD and zedfull too for the handfull of models they fail on too , but this is harsh as software on these is still fairly new despite the cars age . avdi on fiat i do like alot personally, just as i like what ad does on them too and between both kits i get by nicely .

[rapidlocksmiths]

Was really temped to get BMW full on special but I am really scared for this company right now and I sure others are also holding back on upgrades .....I dont think they having financial issues its more maybe development issues.....lets be conservative and say there are 5 000 AMS ACTIVE USERS...thats 1 000 000 Euro thats a lot of extra monies that they never had in their budget before so I cant figure out why they not holding up there side of the deal to provide us with the best machine on the market..anyway thats my thoughtsim in exactly the same boat , i was about to buy full bmw , but am also worried about this at present , after their recent decisions and actions that have upset so many and after the reports here on it killing cars , true or not causes worry , so i have instead held off until things settle . im not saying i wont invest in avdi bmw i actually still want to invest in this , im just not investing at this time until things settle down again and im confident to invest . if it means i must look to china for the short term then so be it . i suspect many are in this position at present and holding off until confident again , abrites recent decisions over suburu , the latest vag licence jiggle i suspect will prove expensive for now as has upset and worried many across many forums and not just here. i hope it resolves as im not ready to turn my back on this tool just yet , but i feel its prudent to hang fire for time being until i have confidence again , which i hope will be sooner rather than later , but only abrites can change things and restore this confidence . so il watch , wait and decide when more informed .

[cqae]

Rapid, you have been on of the biggest defenders of abrites & their products on here. I for one take great notice of what you and a few others have to say about their products before & buy or upgrade. Its sad to see it falling behind & them taking no notice of guys like you that are actually on their side! I too have invested a great deal in AVDI & for the most am quite happy about it. I just wish they would see that there are people out in the real world that they should listen to & that their decisions & choices are costing THEM money! Part of their development needs to be in keeping existing customers happy. Its far cheaper to keep an existing customer happy than it is to attract a new one, and we are all proven money spenders if we have bought it already!




im in exactly the same boat , i was about to buy full bmw , but am also worried about this at present , after their recent decisions and actions that have upset so many and after the reports here on it killing cars , true or not causes worry , so i have instead held off until things settle . im not saying i wont invest in avdi bmw i actually still want to invest in this , im just not investing at this time until things settle down again and im confident to invest . if it means i must look to china for the short term then so be it . i suspect many are in this position at present and holding off until confident again , abrites recent decisions over suburu , the latest vag licence jiggle i suspect will prove expensive for now as has upset and worried many across many forums and not just here. i hope it resolves as im not ready to turn my back on this tool just yet , but i feel its prudent to hang fire for time being until i have confidence again , which i hope will be sooner rather than later , but only abrites can change things and restore this confidence . so il watch , wait and decide when more informed .

[whiskeyman]

who are their biggest advertisers????????

its us................................
word of mouth
same with any tool thats on the market

[ttzag]

any one install the last update after promotion?
malware detected and deleted by Kaspersky!! and software stoped working .
I disabled antivirus then reinstall abritus ,Windows defender wakeup and deleted it and again 😭.
I changed pc and re-download abritus again but the same s h i t


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[norman1967]

any one install the last update after promotion?
malware detected and deleted by Kaspersky!! and software stoped working .
I disabled antivirus then reinstall abritus ,Windows defender wakeup and deleted it and again 😭.
I changed pc and re-download abritus again but the same s h i t


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I got same back in Feb so never bothered to update and I've not bothered with March either

Told situation to my dealer his reply was to disable my anti virus


I decided against

[i-vtec]

hehe fiat is good heheh - can't even prepare key with remote!

from what the hell you have customers that don't need remote control in 2017 year?

how to name software that can't prepare key with remote function?
how to name software that have old PSdZData (from 2014 year)?

so any professional bmw workhop on the world don't work with avdi and bmw - it's only for old cars to 2014 year (now we have 2017)

[rapidlocksmiths]

funny enough to date ive had no calls to lost keys on a fiat 2016 or 2017 years , but i get plenty 2001 to 2014 .

the product is not shit because it does not yet cover all 2016/2017 year models .

the token free fiat coverage from abrites is far more cost effective than other token based options , in fact compared to zedfull fiat , abrites is cheap and token free .

by all means call a product bad when it kills cars , be upset if you feel cheated by some of their recent actions , but to call something bad because it doesnt yet cover the latest models is both harsh and unrealistic.

im glad it gave you a giggle that i like the fiat software from abrites , i see mostly fiat 500 , ford ka and vauxhall combo vehicles with remote and it hasnt let me down yet on these ive prepared and programmed many remote keys for these models , im sure i will find some it doesnt work on , but thus far its been good to me and paid back and into a healthy profit , the fact its paid back and in profit makes it a good investment , for me at least. it has done plenty of old punto standard keys for me too as well as doblo , hasnt damaged a single car and has performed well .

i cant call it bad when it has done so well for me on fiat , perhaps we have very different expectations from a tool investment , im happy when a tool pays back and makes me profit and does what i need of it and in the case of fiat on abrites its done this for me , so in my book a good investment .

BMW i cannot comment upon constructively as i have not invested in abrites bmw as yet , i was about to buy it in the last 2 promotions , but have been concerned by the claims here that it is killing vehicles and the reviews elsewhere that other options offer better value and wider coverage on bmw , so i thought it prudent to wait whilst i research the concerns that have been raised and decide when better informed , as im still unsure if avdi bmw is killing cars during key programming , whether its operator errors etc , but what ive read has concerned me enough to have me hang fire for now.

im only interested in bmw for key programming , im not concerned about its other diagnostic as a workshop may be , my only interest is keys . i suspect most professional bmw workshops use the bmw main dealer tool with online access so dont need to worry what year the vehicle is as always up to date as bmw specialists.

[i-vtec]

do you program key with remote to fiat fiorino?

it's impossible! avdi destroy key because program only key function (so you must change transponder on pcb)! it's no info about key will be working only (without remote)!

avdi was good tool - for now 0 bugs fixing and nothings new for new cars, and stolen some function from loyal client

you see screnshot bmw online? nothing to comment - avdi psdzdata it's from 3 years ago - you don't see this?

[rapidlocksmiths]

i have not been called to a fiorino so cannot comment on this one , since its release ive done over 50 old punto 188 vehicles with non remote keys as well as alot of fiat 500 , a good few ford ka and a few vauxhall combos using same remote as 500 , all these have coded smoothly , ive done well from this coverage . in addition ive done a good few ducato and nimo vehicles too.

for me and for what i get called to the abrites fiat software has served me well , for some ive had to enlist the help of my ad100 pro for some .

so it would be wrong of me to brand this as bad when it has never let me down and has earnt well for me , it has very much done what i have asked of it . others needs may differ to my own , and for them it may not be as good an investment , i cant speak for others , just for myself and my own experiences , how can i say something is bad when for me it has been very good ?
for some it may be poor , for me it has been excellent so i call it as i see it from my own experience with it.

As i say i havnt commented on bmw as i dont own this function as yet , due to what i have read here , i was concerned enough to delay investing in it until i research some more , i cant call it bad and i cant say its bad as i havnt yet used it , all i can say is from what i have read on avdi bmw it has concerned me enough to hang fire and wait before investing and do more research before buying , in the meantime i will look east for a temporary or maybe permenent solution , depending how it performs , but as i dont currently use avdi bmw , im not qualified to comment upon it .
my needs would be only keys on models up to 2014 at present , so may well suit my needs , but what ive read has convinced me to wait for now and see what transpires.

with regards the issue surrounding suburu , i agree that it was wrong to just take this away and was a kick in teeth of loyal users

with regards the issues suffered by hass , i agree it was terrible how he has been treated and the issues that surround the jlr issues when told its safe to use.

with regards licence jiggling i agree this upsets many existing users me included

with regards bug fixing being almost non existent , vag kline issues etc , again i agree its bad and some of these fixes are long overdue as embarressing when china kit performs better on some models

with regards to customer service and promotions to existing users again i agree they could do better and view existing customers as assets rather than as cash cows with contempt.

theres plenty i disagree with as far as abrites are concerned , but i wont name call the product on functions that have for me been very good , i cant critisise kap diagnostics as they have always been good with me , i dont slate functions i dont own as i have no experience with these so cant comment , i will praise functions that do well for me , just as il critisise those that dont , i wont slate what i dont know for sure as dont have the function just as i wont slate what works well for me just to be part of a witch hunt .

whats good for me may well be poor for someone else , that i accept as we all differ just as our needs and expectations differ

[i-vtec]

so most fiat you do was without remote... i also do realy many fiat and 90% was ok - but remote preparing from bcm don't exist - so if you thinking in 2017 year is ok to do only keys withour remote - ok it's your opinion

if you thinking that 2014 psdzdata it's anything with key programing - you don't nothing about bmw

for bmw cas 4 you must remove cas from car and read processor with programmer - avdi can't do this - avdi only prepare key from dump so paying 1500 euro for this function is a joke

i have full avdi and do many cars - not only keys - i wrote about all avdi function not only keys - i connect it every day - so if you do more with avdi you see what im talking

btw. can you be so kind and check what version of mercedes do you have after update?

[rapidlocksmiths]

no ,only old punto 188 , some doblo and nimo vehicles have been without remote , the fiat 500 , some doblo, ford ka and vauxhall combo, ducato etc are all with remote , these have been very good to me .

i havnt commented on bmw as i dont have the avdi bmw software , so stay out of this until i do have this , i try and only comment on functions i own as commenting on my own experience , as i have said i have read enough here and seen posts here that have concerned me enough that i have not bought this function yet , so im concerned enough to hold back and not buy , read into this what you will , other than this i wont comment as i dont use it.

bmw and mercedes are the only 2 licences i dont currently own with avdi , ive other kits that until now have served me ok , its only now i have looked at adding these to my avdi , but have held on from what ive read here . i have had avdi for alot of years long before they first did their bargain full deals , so has cost an arm and a leg to get less coverage than many who got a new user deal . thus bmw and mercedes are the last 2 licences to add to have it fully loaded , but this will now wait longer due to what ive read ,

but the fact im holding back on bmw and mercedes and looking east for now , does mean that yes what i read and their recent actions have angered me and concerned me enough not to invest further for now , but it doesnt mean im unhappy with the other licences that have served me well , just as because some licences have served me well doesnt mean i accept the issues and actions they have imposed upon us , i critisise or praise what i have experience with , and object to what i disagree with that affects me , i just stay out of issues im not qualified to have a valid opinion on as dont have these licences.

ive also used avdi every day and for many years , long before they offered full deals and multiple function deals , so as a long term existing user i have been forced to buy at higher prices than many , but still made it pay over and over again , so hard to critisise what i own and use over all.

as i say , i only do keys with it , i comment on my own experience with it , i accept that what is ecellent for 1 user may well be poor for another user dependent on their needs and expectations .

i do alot of late vauxhall , avdi has been great on vauxhall , but like most other kit is lacking on many late models , so buying the dealer tool and online licence was necessary for me and pays me back well , but i still use avdi on older models , i accept it doesnt yet do the new models , doesnt make avdi poor , yes id love it to do it all , but that would be a perfect world.

[i-vtec]

can you be so kind and check what version of mercedes do you have after update?

[rapidlocksmiths]

as stated i dont have bmw or mercedes licences with avdi , so dont have mercedes licence , i can open software and mine just says its A0 .

i was going to buy bmw and mercedes full on recent promotion , but hanging fire after what ive read here .

the vvdi mb tool gets good reviews so looking at xhorse as well as other kit as a stop gap for now , as my current coverage is old now and needs replacing .

abrites would have had a nice earner from me in recent promotion if it hadnt been for the current issues and what ive read on bmw .

[i-vtec]

i also have A but this version is 10, so they even test software he develop and abrites don't know diferences about HEX and DEC...
you protag working after update?

Avdi is a tool with huge potential but they wasting it

The whorst is alekn (and others from abrites who receive on e-mails) disregard

In every e-mail from them is a huge scorn to users his tool, this is very sad, i don't want miracle but what they doing from years with us is unacceptable

[electromech]

as stated i dont have bmw or mercedes licences with avdi , so dont have mercedes licence , i can open software and mine just says its A0 .

i was going to buy bmw and mercedes full on recent promotion , but hanging fire after what ive read here .

the vvdi mb tool gets good reviews so looking at xhorse as well as other kit as a stop gap for now , as my current coverage is old now and needs
replacing .

abrites would have had a nice earner from me in recent promotion if it hadnt been for the current issues and what ive read on bmw .


LOL we think alike I just used that funds to order a VVDI...,....��

[whiskeyman]

i agree with rapid the fiat software is good
but still many i have to pull the pin first with advanced diagnostic for instance

[rapidlocksmiths]

my protag does work but only if connected directly to pc , this is how its supposed to be im told by support , odd thing is , it did work when attached to avdi prior to update , but only when connected to pc directly after update , if this is how it is supposed to be then fine i can live with that , tag tool still works fine attached to avdi .

there is a few gaps in fiat pin reading that im surprised they havnt cracked yet , this is why i dont put all my eggs in a single basket , no single tool does all and i believe it safer to spread your investment pot.

i hope abrites has something up their sleeve , as id like nothing more than to have the confidence to reinvest in bmw and mercedes with them , but abrites have made it hard to believe in them at the present time , i hope this changes soon , ive had many good years with them and invested heavily with them over these years , i hope there is better news to come from them.

[i-vtec]

something is wrong with key wizard in vag after last update

[ecuremap1]

something is wrong with key wizard in vag after last update
I used it today what's you're problem?

[i-vtec]

say that transponder type is wrong and next i decide to program key and was ok

[shafo]

say that transponder type is wrong and next i decide to program key and was ok

I think avdi starting to attack you because you hate it so much :chuncky:

[i-vtec]

Did I say at least one lie about avdi?

[gttuning]

something is wrong with key wizard in vag after last update
I notice that wizard is funny for some time not only after update.


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[florinyes]

Today did mileage on passat 2010 2.0 TDI edc17 and it failed a few times..Had to disconnect battery every time to resurect clocks.

When finaly did it had keys deleted. Did key back in by OBD but deffo something not right after last update.

[rapidlocksmiths]

similar issues the last time they jiggled with the vag licences and grouped them , some bugs got quickly fixed and some never got fixed , the kline programming being one of them. all we can do is hope they still have an able developer looking at fixing them or that its at least scheduled to be looked into .

The only thing with abrites you can be sure of at present is in some way its going to cost us , for good reasons or bad , the only constant is it will be expensive , i just hope for the best.

[hass42]

similar issues the last time they jiggled with the vag licences and grouped them , some bugs got quickly fixed and some never got fixed , the kline programming being one of them. all we can do is hope they still have an able developer looking at fixing them or that its at least scheduled to be looked into .
"If they have able developers?"

That statement bothers me. This is crazy, they were able to develop most all of their work and at one time were the top of the class.

Now we hoping that an able developer still works there?!?

I really do hope something changes, and soon.

Hass42

[rapidlocksmiths]

we have to admit that in the past we was spoilt , lots of regular worthwhile updates which were once free , lots of new functions , it was this that took them to the top of the class and gave them such a big lead over the rest . maybe the current new vehicles pose a much bigger problem than whats gone before , so taking longer and using up their resources , so a natural slowing in development . which in turn allows the pack to catch up.

if this is the case then abrites may well have the lead and advantage again at some point in future if whilst the pack play catch up they have a head start on the new models , maybe something big to come . this is the only thing i can think it is if still the same development team at abrites . a new development team would also explain a lull in development whilst they get up to speed and find their feet.

of course theres plenty of rumours that point to a darker future , but all are just rumour and speculation which confuses things further , i just wish more answers were forthcomming from alekn .

due to the wall of silence , no one knows if this is the case or something else , only abrites know whats going on , all we can do is watch wait and see what is next , and maybe hope for the best .

[isma123]

FROM WHERE YOU BUY FIAT REMOTES , ? NEVER GET THEM WORKED ALWAYS USE TMPRO2 TO PROGRAM IT GIVES YOU OPTION TO CHOOSE WHAT KIND OF TRANSPONDER

[isma123]

"If they have able developers?"

Hass42

THEY HAVE NO DEVELOPPERS ANYMORE ;;....

THEY JUST BUY SOLUTION AND SELL TO US FOR MORE MONEY ,,

merecedes MN026 is from the legend web

opel , fiat "the good 90% WORKING" , pin peugeot bsi solution , from nickfarus IOterminal

EVEN BMW is the same developper as explorer,

REnalt key lerning (((((((( dont remenber the name of guy


they were best developper for vag, but you will notice no keylearning or odo on golf7 ,,??? for about <<<<3 years they were telling me in the nexr update mqb vehicule blablalbblblalalblaablaabla

[isma123]

also i agree with i vtec people en email are simply ......................

[offsystem]

Yes they need a guy from VDO for VW which is making the SW this needs a Lot of money and maybe they dont want to pay the price.

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[i-vtec]

Thank You ISMA123, i see you have the same opinion and problems as i have.

I also must buy TMPRO2 and now i precode remote from dump of BSI.

So question about other people that saying fiat 100% working - what are you doing to remote control working?!

Please tell me and ISMA123 how you doing this?

BTW. Today next Astra J - impossible to delete dtc in ECU - from few years 0 opel update.

Developers in abritest don't exist anymore - only monkey sellers. You will be see this is the end of this company!

[gttuning]

Yes they need a guy from VDO for VW which is making the SW this needs a Lot of money and maybe they dont want to pay the price.

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I think guy from vdo is getting payed well where ever he is now.
Hope they cut his wages and he will sell solution😂😂

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[rapidlocksmiths]

i use iea remotes and autoremotecontrols remotes on fiat 500 , ford ka and vauxhall combo , simply follow the menu on these if using FN017 . my customers on the older models tend to want standard keys as far cheaper. i dont think anyone claims fiat is 100% , that would be silly as outside of dealer tool and access nothing is 100%.

If what you say is true that abrites have no developers now and just buy coverage in , then this would be a serious problem , i have read this rumour on various sites , but it is just rumour until proven , with so many different rumours flying around at present its hard to know which are true and which are fiction if any are true at all .

this theory would indeed explain alot of things , however other less serious rumours also explain things .

the harsh reality is that what ever is the cause of the issues causing us all concern , none of us know the truth or what the future holds , so all we can do is wait and see what transpires over the comming months or hope alekn and abrites put this to bed once and for all and communicate honestly and openly with their customers , the current issues , actions and decisions coupled with the wall of silence just fuels the rumour mill and causes alot of speculation , concern and fear , which is no good for anyone involved , customers and abrites alike , and is the sole cause of all the current unrest and anger , only abrites can relieve this with communication .

[i-vtec]

remotes on fiat 500 , ford ka and vauxhall combo

ok now i understand you do 5% off cars coverage (most in FN17 add) and thats why remote working to you, if you do at leat 50% of cars you see that avdi don't precode transponders with remote functions... i have normal clients and if remote is availble he always wants keys with remote!

so if abrites one fiat software = 100% and you do 5% and everythings is ok it's fantastic but not give you right to say that fiat diagnostics is good - you must test more cars, i test almost 95% of fiat and compare to oder tools is poor :(

alekn says that he have a outside developers :(

btw. bmw online in most case is tested on bike so thats whay so many fails on cars...

[rapidlocksmiths]

i use abrites fiat on only the cars i get called to and on the cars used by my contract customers , and it has served me well , as i stated in my posts , for me it is very good indeed , so if it works on the majority of vehicles i need it for then i have every right to say that for me abrites fiat is very good and works very well . had you read my post on this you will have read that i accept everyones needs and expectations differ and for some it may not offer what they need , so for them it maybe not so good .

you stating that i have no right to say that for me and my needs it is very good , because its not for your needs , this is no different than me saying you have no right to call it bad because it doesnt fit your needs when it fits mine fine , for some it will be excellent , for others it may not be , just as with most key programming equipment , as will always depend on the users needs , market and expectations and every users needs will differ , thus opinions will differ.

so i stand by my comment that for me abrites fiat ahs been an excellent investment for me. we all make our own investment decisions and form our own opinions of our investments .

my main concerns with regards abrites are not concerning what is working well for me , and is not what others believe to be poor for them , my concerns are on whats going on at abrites and its very future , the subaru issue , the cash generating licence jiggles , the slowing development , the lack of bug fixing and the issues surrounding JLR and BMW harming cars with no help from support as hass encountered , these are the common issues that need addressing , not bickering on whose opinion on which software is good for them or not.

[i-vtec]

you don't understand me well - sorry

you test 5% of 100% software and saying is good

i test 95% and say not working remote precode ond other things

i don't konw how you but i pay 100% money for 100% working software and i get remote key without remote :(

[i-vtec]

someone has smile because some function work

but we pay for 100% coverage what abrites wrote on his page and manuals

and we not get what we pay

if you go to market and pay for shovel you are happy that you can digging?

everyone has own decision but abrites don't say thruth and don't help - thats all

[rapidlocksmiths]

i dont think anything we say or post can influence much sadly , we are all in the same boat and wait to see whats what as it all unfolds. everything will be fine or we will all get had over , that boat we are all in together . only time will tell.

[Ivo88]

Hi guys,

I believe sending an email to the support with accurate information about the issues would get you one step closer to a solution. I see people here only bragging and I really am starting to think they are being paid by other companies to troll... I won't be mentioning nicknames as it's inappropriate.

I am working also together with AlekN and keeping an eye on the thread, but I really can't see something meaningful and am starting to think it's pointless speaking to people that just attack with cursing and swearing. Is this how a Forum should be functioning? Is it professional?

If I was a person with an issue, I would post accurate information about the issue, in what circumstances the issue appeared, what version of the software was used, did the issue happen with a previous version of the software. These are simple details that will help everybody reading this topic.

Posts, such as "I hope it's the same developers" or "they're headed to a dead end" won't help anybody. You all know the latest vehicles have more complicated modules and it's sometimes really hard to "crack the code". If it was that easy, everybody would be doing it.

I just want to share to all of you that we're doing our best and will keep doing our best to make the products and services the leading in this technology. We're working 24/7 on research and development and any suggestions and feedback is more than welcome, but only if it's not in the manner I already mentioned above!

I sincerely apologize to all of you that have experienced issues while using the software and would like to welcome you to send your emails to the Support team to get the issues sorted. I do believe, this way we can all earn the positive outcome of things!

Warm regards,

Ivo Georgiev

[shafo]

Hi guys,

I believe sending an email to the support with accurate information about the issues would get you one step closer to a solution. I see people here only bragging and I really am starting to think they are being paid by other companies to troll... I won't be mentioning nicknames as it's inappropriate.

I am working also together with AlekN and keeping an eye on the thread, but I really can't see something meaningful and am starting to think it's pointless speaking to people that just attack with cursing and swearing. Is this how a Forum should be functioning? Is it professional?

If I was a person with an issue, I would post accurate information about the issue, in what circumstances the issue appeared, what version of the software was used, did the issue happen with a previous version of the software. These are simple details that will help everybody reading this topic.

Posts, such as "I hope it's the same developers" or "they're headed to a dead end" won't help anybody. You all know the latest vehicles have more complicated modules and it's sometimes really hard to "crack the code". If it was that easy, everybody would be doing it.

I just want to share to all of you that we're doing our best and will keep doing our best to make the products and services the leading in this technology. We're working 24/7 on research and development and any suggestions and feedback is more than welcome, but only if it's not in the manner I already mentioned above!

I sincerely apologize to all of you that have experienced issues while using the software and would like to welcome you to send your emails to the Support team to get the issues sorted. I do believe, this way we can all earn the positive outcome of things!

Warm regards,

Ivo Georgiev
Ivo with all due respect...you have to at least consider the frustration going on here and why this is happening..with the situation of Hass..do you really expect him to remain calm when avdi has damaged a jaguar ?and when he asks your support guys questions he gets a "sorry we cant help" reply? I REALLY wanted to buy new modules with this spring promo but in all honesty i'm scared because of this thread where I for one believe there are many BRILLIANT people participating and they are part of the concerned ones..does that not already make you believe something is WRONG? personally I love my avdi for the short time I have it .. I haven't really had any major issues but I too keep my eye on this thread and for a LONG time now the mood in here has not been good...

[totalkey]

Hi guys,

I believe sending an email to the support with accurate information about the issues would get you one step closer to a solution. I see people here only bragging and I really am starting to think they are being paid by other companies to troll... I won't be mentioning nicknames as it's inappropriate.

I am working also together with AlekN and keeping an eye on the thread, but I really can't see something meaningful and am starting to think it's pointless speaking to people that just attack with cursing and swearing. Is this how a Forum should be functioning? Is it professional?

If I was a person with an issue, I would post accurate information about the issue, in what circumstances the issue appeared, what version of the software was used, did the issue happen with a previous version of the software. These are simple details that will help everybody reading this topic.

Posts, such as "I hope it's the same developers" or "they're headed to a dead end" won't help anybody. You all know the latest vehicles have more complicated modules and it's sometimes really hard to "crack the code". If it was that easy, everybody would be doing it.

I just want to share to all of you that we're doing our best and will keep doing our best to make the products and services the leading in this technology. We're working 24/7 on research and development and any suggestions and feedback is more than welcome, but only if it's not in the manner I already mentioned above!

I sincerely apologize to all of you that have experienced issues while using the software and would like to welcome you to send your emails to the Support team to get the issues sorted. I do believe, this way we can all earn the positive outcome of things!

Warm regards,

Ivo Georgiev

are you joking?
abrites get all information + dumps + logs
all the answers are almost the same " read manual, we will fix soon etc"
im not even trying to write email any more. so stop joking because its show you not taking your job serious

[i-vtec]

Hi guys,

I believe sending an email to the support with accurate information about the issues would get you one step closer to a solution. I see people here only bragging and I really am starting to think they are being paid by other companies to troll... I won't be mentioning nicknames as it's inappropriate.

I am working also together with AlekN and keeping an eye on the thread, but I really can't see something meaningful and am starting to think it's pointless speaking to people that just attack with cursing and swearing. Is this how a Forum should be functioning? Is it professional?

If I was a person with an issue, I would post accurate information about the issue, in what circumstances the issue appeared, what version of the software was used, did the issue happen with a previous version of the software. These are simple details that will help everybody reading this topic.

Posts, such as "I hope it's the same developers" or "they're headed to a dead end" won't help anybody. You all know the latest vehicles have more complicated modules and it's sometimes really hard to "crack the code". If it was that easy, everybody would be doing it.

I just want to share to all of you that we're doing our best and will keep doing our best to make the products and services the leading in this technology. We're working 24/7 on research and development and any suggestions and feedback is more than welcome, but only if it's not in the manner I already mentioned above!

I sincerely apologize to all of you that have experienced issues while using the software and would like to welcome you to send your emails to the Support team to get the issues sorted. I do believe, this way we can all earn the positive outcome of things!

Warm regards,

Ivo Georgiev


heeh you are serious? :rofl:

1. do you can read? if yes please read this topic again with understanding
2. you'r welcome start send him e-mails and wait forever - i send 5 years e-mails with logs, solutions etc and nothings change in software - avdi can't even clear dtc in ecu from insignia or astra j...
3 point to start talking with this company is when abrites go back stolen every avdi user with ams function keylerning subaru!

[nazz2]

Oh boy!, what is the problem ivo, is sales down? or has Alek got a split personality? i guess both. any how if you are serious about solving our problems, you show us respect first.

Second get someone from Technical ,not Sales department, to come here and take note!, one of the important rules in this forum is to respect one another, So if you think that you can come here and be disrespected, it is pure excuse, So stop dragging your feet and get someone Technical to ask us what you need, lets get on with it, no less no more.

[rapidlocksmiths]

if im reading the post correctly , then hes not offering to discuss the issues on the forum , instead he has asked that you email support with the exact issue and the info relating to the issue and deal with this by way of 1 to 1 email .

this works for issues with software , and with issues on functions capability and is the best way to deal with this .

you have to understand though that this is exactly what hass did when avdi killed a jaguar , he went through the correct channels and went through support by email , just to be told , sorry but we cant help , no explanation as to why you cant help , just sorry no we cant help . what else is he supposed to do , this saga has probably cost him well in excess of 1000 euros to fix , he still doesnt know if his own error or if avdi is actually not safe to use on these vehicles as no explanation from support . had support been more helpful with him , even if they could not fix it , but had told him why they cant fix it , then i doubt this would have excalated , but support did not support him or explain why they couldnt , and this is why it escalated , could have been avoided had abrites support explained fully to him .

i have to admit it was this more than anything else that convinced me to not invest further at this time , im used to the rants of the avdi haters , ive spent years defending the tool in such rants , but hass being left high and dry with no real support really concerned me and im sure others too, enough to make us hold off from reinvestment.

just about evryone here was furious when you just took suburu away from everyone so you could charge for it , it was you that advertised this as free to all avdi owners a year earlier , then boom i want to charge for it now so just took it away , you could have charged for an upgrade and i suspect most would have paid it , but no you just took it away , this caused more harm and more upset than i think you realise .

with the vn licences , had you told people at xmas in the xmas promotion that the individual licences would no longer be available to buy after xmas , im sure many more would have bought odd vag licences they needed , instead no info , and now you must buy all licences in a vn catagory to get the one you need , is this fair ? why could this not have been announced during the december promotion , im sure it would have yielded better sales and would have been the honourable thing to do .

like others , i love my avdi unit , im more than happy to keep investing in new safe licences i need , i am happy to defend the tool on forums , but its made hard when you take actions like suburu , vn licences and what happened to hass. i will continue to praise what works well and critisise what does not .

i think you under estimate the sheer scale of upset that a few of your recent decisions and actions have had with your customers , and how much damage not even offering an explanation to hass with his predicament has caused .

if reading the thread from page 1 , you will see the things that anger your customers the most

1) tieing them to abrites keys on some functions
2) making the purchase of the distribution box now compulsory for functions this wasnt the case before
3) the removal of the suburu licence that was openly and clearly advertised as free to all abrites owners on your own website a year earlier
4) vag kline bugs and other bugs not being rectified in years , many logs and emails have been sent on this over the years yet avdi still tries to add a key rather than delete and reprogram keys
5) the vn licences being imposed without announcement allowing customers to buy odd licences they need prior to being forced to buy all in a group now
6) the issue suffered by hass on the jaguar

if we are wrong to be angry then please explain , if we are wrong to be concerned about the future then please explain , if we are scared to use the software on some makes then please enlighten us , after all , we have all invested heavily in your product and most of us want to continue doing so , but loyalty and respect must be 2 way .

we heavily invest in your product , we email support , we send logs , what more can we do , but if we vent our frustration then we are wrong.

thank you for responding , and thank you for offering to listen by email , but please address the problems and understand that existing customers are an asset if treated correctly, and im sure the posts will become pro avdi rather than what we have descended to now if mutual respect and regard is 2 way and not just 1 way.

[hass42]

I love that Ivo sent us his side of issues. I also strongly agree with most if not all user issues.

But at same time, open dialogue is key here. Let not point fingers and "I told you so" comments.

I say let's drop the past, start over with problems we have and let's see if they'll address this time.

In a manner of gentlemen, and professionalism.

That's what I think we do....Unity always better then division.

Hass42

[i-vtec]

don't dream nothings change!

we give him few chance till now and nothings happen and nothings happen now

alekn read this and never answer - this is usual as he do - read e-mails to support if it is a problem - don't response

abrites robber us from subaru key learning - i can talk with thief only when give me what is my back!

thank you rapidlocksmiths (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/225894-rapidlocksmiths) for a reminder about christmas cheat!

ivo how long hass must wait for maney back from abrites for landrover repair?

[nazz2]

Martin,please add tag tool to your list!

[i-vtec]

list is much longer and every days he is longer and longer...

ivo say to alekn and other monkey sellers from abrites that we never give up and start doing!

[hass42]

list is much longer and every days he is longer and longer...

ivo say to alekn and other monkey sellers from abrites that we never give up and start doing!
I know the frustrations guys, but the name calling isn't going to help us I don't think.


Hass42

[i-vtec]

Probably you have right but this nothings change - you will see - i know them for a long time

[whiskeyman]

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[i-vtec]

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[PremierD]

Who's lifetime though mate ... :roflmao:

[i-vtec]

so whay from few first years says that avdi have free updates? ams is next cheat from abrites

[rapidlocksmiths]

i said many pages ago that nothing will ever get sorted by abuse and name calling , such actions will only ever cause more stubboness , every action causes a reaction until neither side gives way and its a stand off.

maybe hass is correct , maybe the best course is to have a civil debate with this guy , questions on functions not working maybe should be done via support , but im sure he can debate the main issues we have and explain why the decisions that have caused so much upset were made without announcement or warning , maybe explain why they couldnt help hass on the jaguar.

kicking off will just close all dialogue , where as if abrites answer then just maybe we will move towards a solution , i dont believe that this is not resovable , ie , if abrites were to ;

1) give the free suburu coverage that was owned by every abrites owner back as it was , with an upgrade price to upgrade to the new function , this would im sure put this issue to bed and resolve it . if opperationally this is not possible , then offer everyone who had this taken away from them a special rate for the suburu function , this may be a workable compramise.

2) maybe do a one off sale for a limited period of individual vag an licences , so those that need odd licences in a catagory can buy these rather than be forced to buy licences they dont need , this way they have the option and know these wont be individually available after the sale ends , they at least have an option before the vn method is forced upon them .

3) maybe explain why you was unable to help hass , and confirm if the jlr software is safe to use or not , again this would clear up the fear many have in using this licence at present .

4) guarantee customers that vag kline and other issues will be looked into properly and will be worked upon by your team to get this working as it should be

5) maybe make the relevent software work again without the need of the distribution box , it once worked on homemade rigs until distribution box was released . if this is not possible then explain why , we cant understand if we dont know .

to many of us it just looks like you are inventing new ways to squeeze more money from us , we have sent logs and emails on vag k line issues and others yet nothing has been done still so you can see why the pot has been simmering until it has now boiled over .

im sure fair compramises exist if there is 2 way communication , with no need for ranting , rudeness and name calling. even if no compramises can be reached if we have an understanding as to the reason for the changes it may calm things and at least end speculation.

id still like to know if bmw software is safe to use on the claimed coverage , with no risks when downgrading and flashing cas units , once i am convinced of this i will happily buy on next promotion , but i want to be sure its a safe investment , i dont want a situation like hass has just had , so i hope you understand the reassurance im asking for , this costs you nothing , just an open honest answer . i love my avdi , i want to continue investing in it , but i need confidence to do so .

recent actions and decisions have caused upset , probably boiled over more because its not the first time such issues have arisen , but maybe , just maybe 2 way communication and some understanding may just resolve everything for a brighter and quieter future for us all .

so maybe look at the issues causing general concern and respond openly , then maybe a single list of the issues upsetting the majority posted for your attention , an open honest response from yourselves to these issues and who knows what may be achieved , , or you can ignore us as alekn has and some will continue to buy from you , some will not and nothing gets resolved and we add fuel to the speculation and an opportunity for more air time for the haters who just love to jump on anything avdi , most of all though this needs doing in a civil manner to have any chance.

[lush29]

some one how have cas 4 function how is that working? i am thing of get it next. thanks

[purdy]

I'm thinking this thread needs to split in two. A new thread purely for AVDI technical help and nothing else. Somewhere alekn and ivo88 can feel safe that there not going to get battered. And we can get some real work done and some real technical help. Then when they feel nice and warm and safe they can venture back here to face the music to answer the questions and concerns about the product. If I were them I wouldn't stick my head up two high for fear of getting shot. But they do need to stand up. This is a premium product with a premium price tag. And you expect a premium level of honesty and integrity which is why I think people are loosing faith.


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[raptureready]

had a x5 with itap45 today, didn't want to take a chance with downgrade today just for a spare so sent to dealer, done a few downgrades with avdi and never had a problem before, but I must say all the above postings doesent do much for ones confidence regarding support if things go belly up , had a corsa c other day and after pulling pin from ecu I got a fault that would not clear with battery reset or fault clearing, had to send to dealer to reflash ecu to remove fault and light on dash, had a corsa d after this that after pulling pin and coding key also left light on dash and wont clear with battery reset or fault clearing, so im concerned now when doing opels as a normal battery reset use to sort it out, has anyone had this happen to them recently? its been good to me so far on w204 password reading , but been coding the keys with mbe, the new update for be keys on protag is a good step I think, had a citroen c3 where I could not pull pin from bsi , it kept jumping to try read from ecu all the time, I use to be able to read pins, but I haven't bought the ecu pin reading for Peugeot and citroen, but should of still been able to read from bsi like I used to, anyone have this problem? I use my avdi every day but getting a bit scared plugging into some cars lately,

[nazz2]

That was my thinking too purdy, i think the only way that we can progress is by pleading to the moderators now, if they agree please!!! can we?

[Johnner]

I'll create a new Sticky thread...on the proviso,it's PURELY only technical issues to be discussed....you'll achieve a lot more by going by the clinical approach to getting your problems sorted

It also means those involved with AVDI have no excuse to be avoiding a LOT of people here,if it's only technical issues discussed...If,after a bit,no support is forthcoming...then people need to make up their own minds about that particular company's business model,and ethics,and take it from there...

I'll leave this thread open for now...but in fairness,it has become congested,difficult to follow sometimes,and absolutely polarising...

Best of luck guys :top:

[gttuning]

I'll create a new Sticky thread...on the proviso,it's PURELY only technical issues to be discussed....you'll achieve a lot more by going by the clinical approach to getting your problems sorted

It also means those involved with AVDI have no excuse to be avoiding a LOT of people here,if it's only technical issues discussed...If,after a bit,no support is forthcoming...then people need to make up their own minds about that particular company's business model,and ethics,and take it from there...

I'll leave this thread open for now...but in fairness,it has become congested,difficult to follow sometimes,and absolutely polarising...

Best of luck guys :top:
This thread became a stem release from someone's head if some job didn't work out. It use to be handy to see what avdi users have problem with and what mistakes they made.
Now its all f....up here.
So new technical thread grate idea.

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[AlekN]

1. The Abrites Support team (Ivo, Ventzy and I) do not do sales unless we absolutely have to.
2. We try our best to give you constant support and assistance (day, night, facebook messages, youtube videos...)
3. We advocate your demands with the sales team (the VN conundrum for example)
4. We stand not against but with everyone of you and we are not afraid to say that we are paid by Abrites to give assistance. This does not include DK forums. We participate here to give something extra. This is not our support platform but rather a place to discuss in an informal matter problems that particular customers have had. How many people on here are willing to say that they get paid to participate on DK and generally throw feces (to continue the monkey reference someone mentioned above)? I would really like to see a who's who of DK. I have met some of the people on here in person and cannot understand how they speak to me in person and on DK.
Split personality kind of deal, I guess.
5. The HASS case - OK, there was a problem with the key, but:
a) The development team was willing to do a follow up teamviewer session with him to try and add the key and subsequently the car to the supported list.
b) We cannot be sure about 100% of all cars in the world. We were willing to assist as with all people in a similar case. If we have a problem - we admit to it and try to resolve it. In my opinion Hass rushed bringing the car to the dealer. Purely my point of view, not representing the company I work for and get paid by. Because our developer was scheduled for a follow up teamviewer (I could quote the e-mail).
c) Hass hit a rock and that could be expected because as per point a) We have not gone through every car available.
6. As always - we are willing to continue a productive dialogue because I can tell you that many good things have come out of this topic in a purely sensible conversation.
However to those of you who constantly "bash" on the very people who are trying to assist you - please share your real reasons and let the rest of the people know what drives this "bashing". I will start. My name is Alek, I work at Abrites, I get paid by Abrites (not for DK) and I read this forum and participate on here in order to assist. Ivo, Ventzy and I do videos, to help when we have a second to spare and post them to youtube. We often link those on here.
I- VTEC, your turn, mate.

[i-vtec]

welcom back ALEKN - i realy happy that you wrote this mesage

i very sad that you doing always the same thing - not answer to question or answer only that question you like

1. When you pay hass for repair in dealer?
2. When you give us back subaru keylearning?
3. When you stop forced us to use distribution box?
4. Why you "broke" old tag prog - from update to update detection is pure!
5. Why you cheated us in christmas promo about vag license?
6. Why you never give us real support and fix errors we send with e-mails with logs?

[paul_12345]

1. The Abrites Support team (Ivo, Ventzy and I) do not do sales unless we absolutely have to.
2. We try our best to give you constant support and assistance (day, night, facebook messages, youtube videos...)
3. We advocate your demands with the sales team (the VN conundrum for example)
4. We stand not against but with everyone of you and we are not afraid to say that we are paid by Abrites to give assistance. This does not include DK forums. We participate here to give something extra. This is not our support platform but rather a place to discuss in an informal matter problems that particular customers have had. How many people on here are willing to say that they get paid to participate on DK and generally throw feces (to continue the monkey reference someone mentioned above)? I would really like to see a who's who of DK. I have met some of the people on here in person and cannot understand how they speak to me in person and on DK.
Split personality kind of deal, I guess.
5. The HASS case - OK, there was a problem with the key, but:
a) The development team was willing to do a follow up teamviewer session with him to try and add the key and subsequently the car to the supported list.
b) We cannot be sure about 100% of all cars in the world. We were willing to assist as with all people in a similar case. If we have a problem - we admit to it and try to resolve it. In my opinion Hass rushed bringing the car to the dealer. Purely my point of view, not representing the company I work for and get paid by. Because our developer was scheduled for a follow up teamviewer (I could quote the e-mail).
c) Hass hit a rock and that could be expected because as per point a) We have not gone through every car available.
6. As always - we are willing to continue a productive dialogue because I can tell you that many good things have come out of this topic in a purely sensible conversation.
However to those of you who constantly "bash" on the very people who are trying to assist you - please share your real reasons and let the rest of the people know what drives this "bashing". I will start. My name is Alek, I work at Abrites, I get paid by Abrites (not for DK) and I read this forum and participate on here in order to assist. Ivo, Ventzy and I do videos, to help when we have a second to spare and post them to youtube. We often link those on here.
I- VTEC, your turn, mate.

would help to keep your sales webpage upto date with information from the newer software updates.

Also if there are know unsupported cars or limitations then list these on the page... I'm sure most would still buy the modules even if some cars aren't 100%.... I am sure you would understand buying something that suggest it works 100% then it has lots of issues.

Also it would be good to see limitations eg. if you know key programming only works with a working key or when the cars alarm is not active then list this clearly.

And make it clear if something is 'free whilst in beta stage'

I'm sure a lot more transparancy would stop soo much bad feeling.

[i-vtec]

7. Why you don't thinking about loyal clients - for a years i give abrites much money!
8. Why i must pay more than new clients?
9. Why protag don't connect with avdi after last update but only by usb cable?

[AlekN]

7. Why you don't thinking about loyal clients - for a years i give abrites much money!
8. Why i must pay more than new clients?
9. Why protag don't connect with avdi after last update but only by usb cable?
Still would not answer my question, huh?
1. Believe the car could have been fixed by us, not the dealer. He deleted all the keys to add one key. Do you not take a risk every time?
2. I do not believe this will happen. Subaru key learning works on cars from 2001 to 2017 and has no competition, for 500 Eur you get a software that is unrivaled.
3. How will you toggle between boot mode and diagnostics to do mileage in EDC17 without it?
4. TAG still works. WHat does "detection is pure" mean. Write it in your own language and we will try to understand.
5. No one was cheated. You have update lists to VN functions and all of them are absolutely made to suite you.
6. You said yourself that you have not sent e-mails in ages. Make up your mind.
7. You have discounts and combinations of functions to assist old customers.
8. For what?
9.The PROTAG is meant to work via USB. ONLY when you work via RENAULT should you connect it to the CB101. Please check hte manual.
Now that I answered your questions would you care to answer mine? I guess not.

[AlekN]

would help to keep your sales webpage upto date with information from the newer software updates.

Also if there are know unsupported cars or limitations then list these on the page... I'm sure most would still buy the modules even if some cars aren't 100%.... I am sure you would understand buying something that suggest it works 100% then it has lots of issues.

Also it would be good to see limitations eg. if you know key programming only works with a working key or when the cars alarm is not active then list this clearly.

And make it clear if something is 'free whilst in beta stage'

I'm sure a lot more transparancy would stop soo much bad feeling.
All updates are in the news section. In the case of the XF - yes, it had a problem with one car and it was tested on that same car, the problem was that the car had been modified and the EEPROM of hte KVM did not respond as normal. Did JAG modify it - I do not know.
The lesson about beta stage free software is well learned now. The first time it was done was with BN012.
Thank you for the constructive criticism.

[i-vtec]

Still would not answer my question, huh?
1. Believe the car could have been fixed by us, not the dealer. He deleted all the keys to add one key. Do you not take a risk every time?
2. I do not believe this will happen. Subaru key learning works on cars from 2001 to 2017 and has no competition, for 500 Eur you get a software that is unrivaled.
3. How will you toggle between boot mode and diagnostics to do mileage in EDC17 without it?
4. TAG still works. WHat does "detection is pure" mean. Write it in your own language and we will try to understand.
5. No one was cheated. You have update lists to VN functions and all of them are absolutely made to suite you.
6. You said yourself that you have not sent e-mails in ages. Make up your mind.
7. You have discounts and combinations of functions to assist old customers.
8. For what?
9.The PROTAG is meant to work via USB. ONLY when you work via RENAULT should you connect it to the CB101. Please check hte manual.
Now that I answered your questions would you care to answer mine? I guess not.

1. Why you wrote to hass - sorry we cant asist in this case?
2. Why you say in update info that this function is free for all avdi owners with active ams?
3. Normaly. Look when you relese this function and when you relese distribution box!
4. I mean that tag prog don't detect keys as before or don't detect some key after few last update - now you understand?
5. All was cheated because you don't mention that AN change to VN and now without promotion for the same an function i will be pay less than i pay with chrostmas promo - this is cheat - this is not only mine opinion!
6. You don't understand - i send many many logs - nothings change till now!
7. No i must pay more for single vag license that need pay new clients!
8. Example vag.
9. Please you be so kind and say me in which manual on which site? (before update it's working without usb cable).

[rapidlocksmiths]

Hi alek

with regards protag , from your response i understand that the correct way to use protag is via direct connection to the pc and not connected to avdi , since last update when i connected protag to avdi no programmer found, previously it was found , when i connect protag to pc programmer is found , so this supports what you are saying., and this is how i will now do it .
you say the exception is renault , so if i connect protag to avdi and open renault function , will it recognise protag connected to avdi ? as it doesnt find programmer on other functions ? i will test this later today and let you know what happens .

worth mentioning that my tag still works fine connected to avdi for vag and fiat etc

im looking forward to your answers to some BMW questions in the new thread , as well as the other technical issues .

[rapidlocksmiths]

alek has answered on suburu , he has said that they have learnt lesson on advertising beta versions as free in news feed , i suspect this will be made clear in future . this doesnt ease the pain for all , but has explained that poor communication is at the root of the suburu issue, and he has made it clear we wont be getting this back . maybe abrites will offer those affected a deal on this at some point as a gesture of good will and put this one to bed as well once and for all. but in fairness alek has answered this its up to each individual how they take this of course , but a straight answer has been given , may not be the one some want but its been answered.

we have been warned that the jag issue could happen again , kvm was updated and not responding as others , so beware . any personal situation between hass and abrites is now down to them , had they explained this at the time to hass then this issue would not have boiled over , again a victim of poor communication.

[i-vtec]

i agree with you "victim of poor communication"

with subaru it's abrites fault - yes - so why i must pay for his faults?

[AlekN]

Hi alek

with regards protag , from your response i understand that the correct way to use protag is via direct connection to the pc and not connected to avdi , since last update when i connected protag to avdi no programmer found, previously it was found , when i connect protag to pc programmer is found , so this supports what you are saying., and this is how i will now do it .
you say the exception is renault , so if i connect protag to avdi and open renault function , will it recognise protag connected to avdi ? as it doesnt find programmer on other functions ? i will test this later today and let you know what happens .

worth mentioning that my tag still works fine connected to avdi for vag and fiat etc

im looking forward to your answers to some BMW questions in the new thread , as well as the other technical issues .

Can someone link the new thread to me?

[rapidlocksmiths]

that i suspect will be between you and abrites , alek has accepted it was poor communication and that it wont happen again as they will make this clear in future , he has also stated that us getting this free coverage back isnt going to happen , so a straight answer.

the effect of the answer will depend on the individual , some will accept it , some will not , some will buy the new function and some will not , some will continue to be angry over it and some will move on and get over it .

personally i think abrites could offer all those affected a 1 off special deal on suburu as a gesture of good will and those that want buy it at a bargain , those that dont need it wont . i think as a gesture of good will they could do same with individual AN licences , give a limited promotion where these individual licences can be bought on the understanding its a one off opportunity to top up before the new vn rules apply , this would be a fair compramise i suspect.

this is in the hands of abrites , and for them to decide , i think they are well aware of the depth of the unrest over these .

more important now is getting the non working functions fixed in the other thread , as this is something that will truly help us all .

[hass42]

Can someone link the new thread to me?
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=587833

Hass42

[AlekN]

1. Why you wrote to hass - sorry we cant asist in this case?
2. Why you say in update info that this function is free for all avdi owners with active ams?
3. Normaly. Look when you relese this function and when you relese distribution box!
4. I mean that tag prog don't detect keys as before or don't detect some key after few last update - now you understand?
5. All was cheated because you don't mention that AN change to VN and now without promotion for the same an function i will be pay less than i pay with chrostmas promo - this is cheat - this is not only mine opinion!
6. You don't understand - i send many many logs - nothings change till now!
7. No i must pay more for single vag license that need pay new clients!
8. Example vag.
9. Please you be so kind and say me in which manual on which site? (before update it's working without usb cable).

OK, no please try to read what I have to say:
1. I personally wrote to him that we need a follow up after this e-mail. Hass can tell you himself
2.For which function?
3. The what now?
4. It does, yours can be faulty and we can offer you a PROTAG since we no longer have TAGs in stock. I already gave mine to someone so I cannot give you mine.
5. The VAG functions were discounted by 50% during Christmas, later the sales team decided to maintain the 50% discount, the VN unification was done to have 4 functions for all the VAG does instead of bloody 59 special functions. So what you are saying is that you are unhappy with a 50% discount? From now on the MQB and MLB platform will get a new special function. It is a well known fact that fresh functions are best for you guys until we have MQB and MLB I believe there not to be something BIG in VAG.
6. Give us a try now. The next problem you have - try us.
7. Not true:
VN002 - Parts AdaptationSpecial Function 2 500 €
If you own one or more functions from the bundle AN043, AN045, AN046, AN048, AN049, AN052, AN053, AN055, AN056, AN057 your price for VN002 will be the difference between the total price (2 500 €) and the sum of the prices of the functions you own, calculated on the following single prices:
AN043 – 100 €
AN045 – 150 €
AN046 – 100 €
AN048 – 250 €
AN049 – 400 €
AN052 – 600 €
AN053 – 250 €
AN055 – 100 €
AN056 – 450 €
AN057 – 100 €
VN003 - Key Learning Special Function 3 150 €
If you own one or more functions from the bundle AN043, AN044, AN045, AN049, AN050, AN059 your price for VN003 will be the difference between the total price (3 150 €) and the sum of the prices of the functions you own, calculated on the following single prices:
AN043 – 100 €
AN044 – 700 €
AN045 – 150 €
AN049 – 400 €
AN050 – 900 €
AN059 – 900 €
8. Please read above.
9.For example Mercedes manual, common user manual, Renault manual.
10. Please answer my questions.

[hass42]

that i suspect will be between you and abrites , alek has accepted it was poor communication and that it wont happen again as they will make this clear in future , he has also stated that us getting this free coverage back isnt going to happen , so a straight answer.

the effect of the answer will depend on the individual , some will accept it , some will not , some will buy the new function and some will not , some will continue to be angry over it and some will move on and get over it .

personally i think abrites could offer all those affected a 1 off special deal on suburu as a gesture of good will and those that want buy it at a bargain , those that dont need it wont . i think as a gesture of good will they could do same with individual AN licences , give a limited promotion where these individual licences can be bought on the understanding its a one off opportunity to top up before the new vn rules apply , this would be a fair compramise i suspect.

this is in the hands of abrites , and for them to decide , i think they are well aware of the depth of the unrest over these .

more important now is getting the non working functions fixed in the other thread , as this is something that will truly help us all .
All I want to know is, should I be scared to try another Jag or RR key?

They say I did something wrong, fine I'm human it can happen, but what exactly I do wrong? I don't want to do again.
Manual says nothing, so I didn't have a guide other than software itself which just goes through steps.

Also, I only took my vehicle to dealership after I was told "Sorry we can't help"

I'm not trying to put blame...I just want answers for future.
What can I do so it doesn't happen again.
Like can AVDI check KVM if been updated by dealer prior to key making?

I don't know, I'm just sick of blame games and what I want way more than money is sense of security using AVDI on any vehicle and not being told "sorry".

I have problems with a BMW now that I have no trust in emailing support.

Regain our trust in your companies strength.

Hass42

[rapidlocksmiths]

with regards the jag issue hass , from the response i read from alek here is that your vehicle had been updated , but the updated kvm didnt act in the same way as others they have seen . so reading between lines it was a kvm response they have never seen before , so until they research this they dont truly know the answer as to why avdi didnt recognise it had an update yet .
so for now i would exercise caution on JLR , i ask every customer if vehicle has been to dealship for service , recall or any work in past 18 months , if it has then its a good bet that its been updated , i approach these jobs with caution with all tools.

it is worth mentioning , that almost every other key programmer would have probably suffered the same outcome on your jag if it is indeed an updated kvm unit .

with bmw issue , you need to send issue to support or maybe list it in the new thread and have alek look at it to see what can be done , as only by emailing support with log files and maybe a TV session can this truly get fixed if a fix is possible , as i suspect its hard to work from a forum post for them .

good luck with it hass , its bad enough getting one nightmare , but 2 in such a short time is painfull .

i too am keen to read the bmw responses to the questions in the new thread , your issue and the claimed mini F30 issues , as im still keen to add bmw to my avdi , but just want to be confident first as a bricked cas unit is expensive .

[hass42]

with regards the jag issue hass , from the response i read from alek here is that your vehicle had been updated , but the updated kvm didnt act in the same way as others they have seen . so reading between lines it was a kvm response they have never seen before , so until they research this they dont truly know the answer as to why avdi didnt recognise it had an update yet .
so for now i would exercise caution on JLR , i ask every customer if vehicle has been to dealship for service , recall or any work in past 18 months , if it has then its a good bet that its been updated , i approach these jobs with caution with all tools.

it is worth mentioning , that almost every other key programmer would have probably suffered the same outcome on your jag if it is indeed an updated kvm unit .

with bmw issue , you need to send issue to support or maybe list it in the new thread and have alek look at it to see what can be done .

good luck with it hass , its bad enough getting one nightmare , but 2 in such a short time is painfull .
I understand, I do.

If I was told by support in manner you just did. Then no one in here would have known of my issue. I just didn't like how it happened is all.

All well on to new adventures.

Thank you all.

Hass42

[rapidlocksmiths]

i personally believe the vast majority of upset is down to poor communication , whether by support , sales in their advertising and even in the user manuals , clarity is crucial with a premium priced product. the problem with such mistakes and lack of clarity is it leads to speculation , speculation grows to rumours , and before you know it the worlds about to end.

ive read rumours across froums from abrites has been sold to new owners , developers have all left , they are going bust so grabbing money , about to release a new tool and so on and so on , so many rumours and probably all innacurate , but rumours all born from speculation that was all born from poor communication and lack of clarity from abrites .

if this one lesson is learnt and improved , such unrest could be avoided in the future , as you say , better communication with your jag issue and an explanation then may have avoided all the anger and unrest surrounding this .

lets hope that the future is brighter.

[indienick]

I was told I think three years ago that BMW online will have user manual. I still have never seen it. Any update to this? Never one time have I had success for ISTA/45 using BMW online. Not one time ever. And I never heard of any other person able to use it. Does the old version of BMW AVDI still work? The offline version.

We spent $60,000+ on BMW software over years and now they just sit on the shelf.....never got that $60,000 back I can tell you. And now I am terrified to even try. We instruct all employees can no longer perform ISTA45/P downgrade because it is not 100% safe. Regardless of fault. Abrites, my fault, whoever.....it is not 100% safe to use. I love to hear some feedback from developer about this because I like to use these tools again, but I need some confidence and I also need to not be told "voltage" is the only problem that can occur during downgrade. Or, if this is the answer, Abrites please provide step by step 100% exact instruction for ISTA45/P downgrade. I like to know what computer you are using, what voltage maintainer, exactly 100% because developer claim always if CAS is dead is my fault.....ok.....so please tell me exactly how to do it and I am very appreciative.

[ecuremap1]

No tool is 100% safe even people and BMW dealer kill control units when updating with genuine icom BMW tool...
bmw flashing is just not stable end of
I was told I think three years ago that BMW online will have user manual. I still have never seen it. Any update to this? Never one time have I had success for ISTA/45 using BMW online. Not one time ever. And I never heard of any other person able to use it. Does the old version of BMW AVDI still work? The offline version.

We spent $60,000+ on BMW software over years and now they just sit on the shelf.....never got that $60,000 back I can tell you. And now I am terrified to even try. We instruct all employees can no longer perform ISTA45/P downgrade because it is not 100% safe. Regardless of fault. Abrites, my fault, whoever.....it is not 100% safe to use. I love to hear some feedback from developer about this because I like to use these tools again, but I need some confidence and I also need to not be told "voltage" is the only problem that can occur during downgrade. Or, if this is the answer, Abrites please provide step by step 100% exact instruction for ISTA45/P downgrade. I like to know what computer you are using, what voltage maintainer, exactly 100% because developer claim always if CAS is dead is my fault.....ok.....so please tell me exactly how to do it and I am very appreciative.

[whiskeyman]

Hello alekn and welcome back
as you can see abrities had bit of bashing this while
and many good reasons why

i do hope you take many comments onboard about the tool
and please not take personally
its about tool not you
and restore abrities to its former glory


many people including myself has been let down quite a lot with this tool recently
early vag leaves many cars stuck in programming mode
hence will not add key
and remote programming still hit and miss hence why I still have supervag and vcds in the van
and early fiat pin reading punto ,grande punto which have to use ad to do
and proxy ford remotes again hit and miss
again ad does em perfect
vauxhall sometimes leaves error on dash after pin code read
again ad does not

and have resorted to using the vvdi for BMW due to being wary to use abrities

one other comment
please can someone at abrities update your user manual
its years old
would solve many issues for many starting to use this tool

[parapilot]

So you still offer support? I was told that no more free support form abrites, "that loophole will be closed" and everyone must buy a support package from UK Kap?? I have been without support for months. Spend thousands on software and zero support. Why Iv not bought anything this year.

[EVER]

HI FRIEN I NEED NEW BUT I NEED HELP I HAVE TWO CARS ONE AMAROK 2011 ECU EDC17 I NEED IMMO OFF AND CHEVROLET TRAKER

DO YO HEL ME THANKS YO

[gttuning]

No support from abrites it self will not pass.
You bought tool you have right to have support!
Its abrites software if something not work its abrites responsibility to sort this out free of charge.
Of course if you cant use the tool and you need help to use it then get you self a support pack that it will get you going.but for technical issues if some thing not work support should be there for every one.

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[cqae]

just thought I'd let you guys know I successfully downgraded a cas3 inpa+45 today & added a spare key. There has been much said about this & wanted to provide some feedback

[iozo]

why support is not good , bug track and repair is 0 , and after update old good modules not work - here is a answer http://auto-keys.eu/index.php?route=product/product&path=3334&product_id=42855 , abrites develop new stand alone tools for "AUTOMOTIV LOCKSMITH "

[ibbu0801]

Hello there,

Here is what happened to me today by using the "MAGIC tool" DAS Manager.......and trying to add a key to w204 with already working key..


We started procedure to calculate password with a working key and followed on screen Instructions while asking few times to insert key in ignition and back to ProTag and then it just stopped with on screen message saying "extracting pass and battery should be charged" blla blla blla and then freezes there for over 2 hours waiting and watching the screen like an idiot and boom!!!! finished with failed to extract key password. Removed key elv goes in locked position and i insert key NOTHING!!! Guess what!!! AVDI just disabled the original working key while trying to get password and EZS is not accepting original key anymore. Now we ended up with a non starting car. What a great day!!!!!


We opened the key and read the NEC with Abprog and I tried to calculate pass with ezs dump and nec key dump but i was not able to find password even from NEC chip. It is not working and this does not surprise me at all.


I believe that, DAS Manager has serious bugs and is far away from a working software!!!! It breaks things like crazy.

So Please dont be surprised when you receive ZERRO support from these guys. I believe you will get best support ever when you ask them about steps you need to take while making payment or how to add Software in Shopping Basket!!!!!

We pay for tools to fix things not to brake things. COME ON AVDI... Wake up and stop screwing people.....

[rapidlocksmiths]

silly question , have you contacted support for help and possibly a TV session and have you sent info and logs to them ?

[lupu_sandu]

ibbu0801 (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/406117-ibbu0801): Seems that you don't read manual. On car with a working key, if original key stop working leave in ignition for 15-30 minutes.
But what surprised me more is that you have a working key with NEC ROM57 and still use protag to extract pass with is a much slower solution that ABprog? Why?
Also, let's assume that avdi kill original key (to be honest i don't know how he manage to do that), you can extract pass from eis without any key on 204/212/207/etc.

[ibbu0801]

Hi,

I have contacted them but no answer as always. I even sent dump of ezs and dump of nec key read with abprog. I am not able to extract password from key even thought i have dump of nec key.

I am sure after few days i will receive an email from ALEK saying "please try again" haha like he always does.

We are all dum people that we buy tools from them. I swear.

I have VW full, Bmw Full, Benz full, Opel Full, and guess what I dont want to see this tool in my shop anymore....

Worst part is when you brake custom's car and he looks at you and you look at him and he looks at you and you say i am sorry my 20K tool worth of software broke your car and you end up like an IDIOT....

[ibbu0801]

HI,

Why bother opening key and read nec key when this tool is suppose to do all by obd. Have you ever thought that there might be some customers that come to you and say look i wanna make sure you dont open anything in my car, If you can make key by obd fine start it otherwise i go somewhere else?

so this is that situation when you cant let it go and you pay 5K for the software just to make sure you can finish everything obd.

[isma123]

I BECOME UNDERSTAND WHY THEY DON't ANSWER, some people want alek ivo do the work at them place ,

come one guys don't make them loose time trying to respond you you don't read manual LUPU just made a reminder to ibu

i can understand old user frustration who are obliged to pay ams but guys we have 12 updates a year with ams while before we were limited to 6 maximum

gttuning (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/348469-gttuning)
when

you buy new interface you have free support included one year

tnks team abrites for answer and time

[isma123]

extracting pass from key with abprog take less time
but the relay method is working also when there is no key available

[isma123]

can i help you ibbu0801 I HAVE OTHER TOOL MAYBE CAN GET YOU THE PASS ;;; WILL NOT ASK FOR MONEY DON4T WORRY :) IT4S A FORUM

[ibbu0801]

TO lupu_sandu (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/61191-lupu_sandu)

I have read manual. I tried to explain situation. AVDI cooked new software that fixed some issues but not all of them. I know that there are other methods that work to but if i am not sure if you understanding where i am trying to get. You dont advertise a tool that do something where in fact it does not. Anyway i am not here to argue. I am here just to share my experience and what i am going through with this tool.

I dont blame a tool that does not work at something. I blame a tool that damages something that already works.

btw i tried w203 and i made key in 3 mins found pass so fast that i was amazed!!!!


SO yeah this is AVDI.

[isma123]

why support is not good , bug track and repair is 0 , and after update old good modules not work - here is a answer http://auto-keys.eu/index.php?route=product/product&path=3334&product_id=42855 , abrites develop new stand alone tools for "AUTOMOTIV LOCKSMITH "

they were developping these tools years ago mate !! wake up !

[EVER]

441594 Hola amigo HOW ARE LE TENGO PROBLEMA 2011 I NEES IMMO OFF PLEASE HELP ME READER K-TAG

[isma123]

JUST DONE A KEY FOR FABIA 2008 K LINE ALL OK BUT HAD TO CHOOSE AUDI/VW IMMO BOX

ROAD SERVICE H24

[ibbu0801]

TO EVER (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/133483-EVER)


hi,

i have attached your immo off file.

enjoy it



441613

[benzstop]

Hello there,

We started procedure to calculate password with a working key and followed on screen Instructions while asking few times to insert key in ignition and back to ProTag and then it just stopped with on screen message saying "extracting pass and battery should be charged" blla blla blla and then freezes there for over 2 hours waiting and watching the screen like an idiot and boom!!!! finished with failed to extract key password. Removed key elv goes in locked position and i insert key NOTHING!!! Guess what!!! AVDI just disabled the original working key while trying to get password and EZS is not accepting original key anymore. Now we ended up with a non starting car. What a great day!!!!!


We opened the key and read the NEC with Abprog and I tried to calculate pass with ezs dump and nec key dump but i was not able to find password even from NEC chip. It is not working and this does not surprise me at all.


I believe that, DAS Manager has serious bugs and is far away from a working software!!!! It breaks things like crazy.

So Please dont be surprised when you receive ZERRO support from these guys. I believe you will get best support ever when you ask them about steps you need to take while making payment or how to add Software in Shopping Basket!!!!!

We pay for tools to fix things not to brake things. COME ON AVDI... Wake up and stop screwing people.....


Never failed to extract password from 204 except for once and that was because the eis was faulty but I knew this going in. Extracting pw with protag sometimes fails on the first try but has always worked for me. Mn026 has been really good for me

[garagetech007]

HI,

Why bother opening key and read nec key when this tool is suppose to do all by obd. Have you ever thought that there might be some customers that come to you and say look i wanna make sure you dont open anything in my car, If you can make key by obd fine start it otherwise i go somewhere else?

so this is that situation when you cant let it go and you pay 5K for the software just to make sure you can finish everything obd.

Ibbu did you make sure car battery was good or at least 12v thus this happens if voltage drops and consequently takes away eis in reading mode . Do a battery reset and start again

If ubdont succeed leave key in ignition for 30 mins as lupo suggested and if that dosnt work either the take eis out on bench connect to rig and now try sometimes car esl gets funny and plays up in car

If this doesn't also work extract pass with relay , virgin eis and start again

Good luck mate

[JFR-Tuning]

@ibbu

yes that s it, car must have 14.3 v all the time. Never have a problem by w204

only

if if you buy new EIS from Dealer. If you will write data by IR KEY FROM OLD ON, BUT NOT WORK. the soft inside a new Eis is not complete. I take a used other one and work.

first way with Relais I prefore. Than with working key and Protag

you must often disconect od take k line to Elv. W204 to work with Relais you must first vergin Elv to extract pass, but no problem after pass extract You personality it again( one click)

dont forget after extract pass that you disconect Relais an put fuse inside the SAM

hope will help

[AlekN]

why support is not good , bug track and repair is 0 , and after update old good modules not work - here is a answer http://auto-keys.eu/index.php?route=product/product&path=3334&product_id=42855 , abrites develop new stand alone tools for "AUTOMOTIV LOCKSMITH "
Hello,
This is obviously not an Abrites developed device.

[indienick]

No tool is 100% safe even people and BMW dealer kill control units when updating with genuine icom BMW tool...
bmw flashing is just not stable end of

My point is I have been told 3x it is my fault. OK, if it is my fault, tell me how to do it instead just saying "it is your fault" and leaving at that. Abrites developer never had problem? Great! Share the love.....

[pierre renault]

Hello, does anyone know if the function SMOK VOLVO (x60, v60, s60 2010 .... disable siyncro hundred ?? Dash) if this is working well? The old Km do not come back?
Thank you

[norman1967]

Hello, does anyone know if the function SMOK VOLVO (x60, v60, s60 2010 .... disable siyncro hundred ?? Dash) if this is working well? The old Km do not come back?
Thank you

Wrong thread ask in smok support started by prem don't spam in the wrong threads

[garagetech007]

Im on w204 2008 trying to extract pass , protag doesn't like the key both lights flashing on protag. Doing the relay method on bench . Went through the whole count of 8192 with no password . Ive started again anyone had this?




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[Gavra]

Did you tried to read key in protag first?

[garagetech007]

Did you tried to read key in protag first?

Started on other pc with protag connected job done gavra


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[bonecrusher]

OK, no please try to read what I have to say:
1. I personally wrote to him that we need a follow up after this e-mail. Hass can tell you himself
2.For which function?
3. The what now?
4. It does, yours can be faulty and we can offer you a PROTAG since we no longer have TAGs in stock. I already gave mine to someone so I cannot give you mine.
5. The VAG functions were discounted by 50% during Christmas, later the sales team decided to maintain the 50% discount, the VN unification was done to have 4 functions for all the VAG does instead of bloody 59 special functions. So what you are saying is that you are unhappy with a 50% discount? From now on the MQB and MLB platform will get a new special function. It is a well known fact that fresh functions are best for you guys until we have MQB and MLB I believe there not to be something BIG in VAG.
6. Give us a try now. The next problem you have - try us.
7. Not true:
VN002 - Parts AdaptationSpecial Function 2 500 €
If you own one or more functions from the bundle AN043, AN045, AN046, AN048, AN049, AN052, AN053, AN055, AN056, AN057 your price for VN002 will be the difference between the total price (2 500 €) and the sum of the prices of the functions you own, calculated on the following single prices:
AN043 – 100 €
AN045 – 150 €
AN046 – 100 €
AN048 – 250 €
AN049 – 400 €
AN052 – 600 €
AN053 – 250 €
AN055 – 100 €
AN056 – 450 €
AN057 – 100 €
VN003 - Key Learning Special Function 3 150 €
If you own one or more functions from the bundle AN043, AN044, AN045, AN049, AN050, AN059 your price for VN003 will be the difference between the total price (3 150 €) and the sum of the prices of the functions you own, calculated on the following single prices:
AN043 – 100 €
AN044 – 700 €
AN045 – 150 €
AN049 – 400 €
AN050 – 900 €
AN059 – 900 €
8. Please read above.
9.For example Mercedes manual, common user manual, Renault manual.
10. Please answer my questions.

For licence vn004,there are 3x licenses that form vn004. I am short off AN054 I have the other 2. How do I go about purchasing the missing licence? There is nothing in the AVDI shop or website regarding this. It just states vn004 1000 euro

[purdy]

For licence vn004,there are 3x licenses that form vn004. I am short off AN054 I have the other 2. How do I go about purchasing the missing licence? There is nothing in the AVDI shop or website regarding this. It just states vn004 1000 euro
Raise a support ticket. And include a pick from your licence viewer.


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[bonecrusher]

Hello Guys443699

[bonecrusher]

Hello Guys443699


Attached pic of licence viewer

sorry for the double post still learning to insert the pic inline

[rapidlocksmiths]

you need to send this to your dealer or to abrites to get quote for update

[Rito]

After I update AVDI my protag not Write "BE" keys only can read..

Someone can Write in "BE" keys?? Or not work in all BE keys??

[garagetech007]

hi is avdi able to program a nissan x-trail 2015 proximity anyone?

[Gavra]

After I update AVDI my protag not Write "BE" keys only can read..

Someone can Write in "BE" keys?? Or not work in all BE keys??
Not all are supported ,but some can be programmed. Just need to find which one protag likes .........

[pepi]

Also the other tools like thelegend Mb doctor not supporting all BE keys.

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[Rito]

But VVDI cover almos off BE keys. I prove it in my friend... Is very good to BE keys...........

I have MB key prog2 and If protag can cover BE keys not need more Mb key prog2.........because avdi read almost and passwords EZS!!!

[tunertool]

I was unable to perform EGS sync on E70 yesterday... however the EGS was from 2011 and the car was 2007... would there be a issue in sync the newer EGS as I know the later cars have 16bit ISN...

[Siham]

Maybe it's a 6hp or 8hp egs ,as far i know only proper tool can work on those egs.
Take a look here ,i know it's an old thread : http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/440940-BMW-GEARBOX-6HP-LOCKED-ISN-search
Good luck :)

[tunertool]

I think the original is 6hp and new fitted is 8hp i will tell customer to get 6hp egs

[isma123]

PLEASE TEAM ABRITES IF YOU CAN HAVE A LOOK http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/462995-AVDI-amp-mercedes-keys/page10?highlight=W203

IS PROBLEM WITH ABPROG ERASING NEC KEYS AND DAMAGING REMORTES BITS WAS SOLVED,;?

DANKE

[Fallen]

Ive had it work for me. I bricked one when my laptop dropped dead while downgrading but avdi revived it on the bench. I've decided to do all of my downgrades on the bench from now on to removed ay voltage issues.

Fallen, when you say backup, does avdi take a back up or do you read it with a programmer prior to upgrading?

There is no way to do a full CAS backup by OBD, it just cant be done.
Remove the CAS, solder on a few wires and backup both eeprom and flash before you downgrade any CAS.
The downgrade process takes about 15 mins to complete, and manipulates a lot of data, things go wrong.

All the people complaining about damaging CAS modules during a downgrade without a backup only have 1 person to blame, themselves.

A new CAS can cost anywhere up to $2k fitted depending on the country your in, it can also take up to 3 weeks to arrive.
Try and explain to the customer why they can't drive their car away after the drove it half an hour before and it will be off the road for a few weeks.
I would rather spend an extra half an hour and buy myself insurance.

[whiskeyman]

Little profit for high risk tool

[techterr]

Not all are supported ,but some can be programmed. Just need to find which one protag likes .........
AVDI will write genuine BE keys... But not many of the china replicas... Proved this to myself the other day... Will write real BE, won't write keys from HKlock, or autokeytransponder...

[garagetech007]

Hi anyone tried making a w167 or w254 key with avdi, i have lost key on a w167 ?2013-14

[sleepyrz]

There is no way to do a full CAS backup by OBD, it just cant be done.
Remove the CAS, solder on a few wires and backup both eeprom and flash before you downgrade any CAS.
The downgrade process takes about 15 mins to complete, and manipulates a lot of data, things go wrong.

All the people complaining about damaging CAS modules during a downgrade without a backup only have 1 person to blame, themselves.

A new CAS can cost anywhere up to $2k fitted depending on the country your in, it can also take up to 3 weeks to arrive.
Try and explain to the customer why they can't drive their car away after the drove it half an hour before and it will be off the road for a few weeks.
I would rather spend an extra half an hour and buy myself insurance.



i dont do any bmw so excuse my ignorance here

why would you downgrade the cas?

what is the reason for this?

no other way to do it?

takes too long to do it properly?

people are lazy?

what is the reason for downgrading the cas?

[isma123]

i dont do any bmw so excuse my ignorance here

why would you downgrade the cas?

what is the reason for this?

no other way to do it?

takes too long to do it properly?

people are lazy?

what is the reason for downgrading the cas?


search button is a great function

[sleepyrz]

i did

most threads are too large to find useful information easily

or if they are short they tell you how to do it

or what not to do

they dont actually explain WHY it is done

[garagetech007]

Is it possible to read isn on msd81 bmw ecu on the bench with avdi?

[techterr]

i did

most threads are too large to find useful information easily

or if they are short they tell you how to do it



or what not to do

they dont actually explain WHY it is done

The reason AVDI downgrades the CAS from the latest ISTAP version is because AVDI can't read the data from the CAS when it has the latest version... After it downgrades the CAS, it is able to read the data, then insert key data.. Then if you have the ISN from the car (DME) you can overwite the CAS ISN, then encrypt, then sync the DME to the CAS and you have a working car again... The problem is... (and this is just my thoughts) BMW and the aftermarket play a game of leapfrog, BMW comes out with a new update to keep the aftermarket from taking there business, and the aftermarket figures out what they did... Then BMW comes out with a new update... and the process goes on and on... I personally think that BMW has a new update that when it sees somebody trying to downgrade the CAS, it tells it to disregard the key slot... or BMW is keeping data in a different place in the flash, and when you downgrade it, you just put the key data where the info as to where the key slot was... I wish I had more time to play, I would find one of these cars with the latest flash and pull the CAS and read it on the bench and compare to a CAS that is an update or two back... I wish that if anyone is having an issue, and Abrites gets notified, they would send out and email and say there could be a problem and we are working on it.. I just can't take being blown off...

[sleepyrz]

The reason AVDI downgrades the CAS from the latest ISTAP version is because AVDI can't read the data from the CAS when it has the latest version... After it downgrades the CAS, it is able to read the data, then insert key data.. Then if you have the ISN from the car (DME) you can overwite the CAS ISN, then encrypt, then sync the DME to the CAS and you have a working car again...

after downgrade and you program key do you reupgrade car back to original?

or do you leave it in downgrade state?

[gttuning]

after downgrade and you program key do you reupgrade car back to original?

or do you leave it in downgrade state?
Just leave it.

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[tkmotors]

Hi
Can you tell me where to bay it genuine BE keys.I was trying from three difference suppliers with no luck none of work with protag.

[ecuremap1]

Hi
Can you tell me where to bay it genuine BE keys.I was trying from three difference suppliers with no luck none of work with protag.

For all one TIP Mercedes Key

I BUY Abrites key smal and servel Fob s and a Fob from org KEY to make a key on W204. Not work only the full cheep locking black key work.

i buy this key here

http://www.carkeysale.com/wholesale/smart-key-3-button-433mhz-sa1252.html

very nice locking good quality and it work for 23 Eur

i order here >

ive ordered from the above link should be here soon but I will let you know when it arrived

[garagetech007]

Anyone done a Mercedes etc gearbox programming with avdi, 722.9 electronic board is new . i cant seem to personalise and activate it. Anyhelp appreciated

[tunertool]

new ones need scn coding

[hass42]

Anyone done a Mercedes etc gearbox programming with avdi, 722.9 electronic board is new . i cant seem to personalise and activate it. Anyhelp appreciated
Read coding, save and transfer​ to new. Sometimes this wouldn't work for me and have to use DAS.
New ones always have been misfits for me.

Hass42

[garagetech007]

Ive tried transferring scn coding but dosnt work just cants see it activate

[hass42]

Does it personalize?

Hass42

[garagetech007]

Does it personalize?

Hass42

No it doesn't hass , after clicking personalise gives me done however no hashes [emoji51] after this I could here starter just 1 click want to energise but Nonstart?

[Mezz_cro]

Hello

I have trouble to read EZS password with one working key.

When i put in PROTAG working key LED-lamp green and red blinking fast and always software say "put the key in the PROTAG" so he doesn t see him.

I try in few cars always the same.

Is problem in last update? because when i get new(last) update after that this doesn t work.

Please i need advice or help how to solve this problem.

Thank you ...

Regards

[lush29]

Off topic, after every update i used to have problems, because i was not installing properly avdi,incl usb.tag tool will not work properly because had usb cable installed 4 times..etc.Just make sure you deleted the old and install the new software as per manual.


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[isma123]

WHEN YOU RECEIVE YOUR LI?KS it is stated that is mandatory to uninstall all previous version of software

[habbyb]

Hello everyone ,is there anyone with VLOO4 Volvo key programing, I ask because I can not find any channel for progaming remote control.Thanks

[ecuremap1]

Has anyone been able to make lost key w204 key on bench

[garagetech007]

Has anyone been able to make lost key w204 key on bench

Yes pal done few bench it with relay kit will be faster

[ecuremap1]

Yes pal done few bench it with relay kit will be faster


How do do you use relay kit on the bench? I got vvdi cable to plug into eis and evl socket

[joemajdalani]

How do do you use relay kit on the bench? I got vvdi cable to plug into eis and evl socket

Simply cut + power wire at EZS & connect relay cables on cut & striped wires.

[ibbu0801]

Hello

I have trouble to read EZS password with one working key.

When i put in PROTAG working key LED-lamp green and red blinking fast and always software say "put the key in the PROTAG" so he doesn t see him.

I try in few cars always the same.

Is problem in last update? because when i get new(last) update after that this doesn t work.

Please i need advice or help how to solve this problem.

Thank you ...

Regards

Hi Mate,

Dont even bother reading ezs pass with a working key. It does not work and it is PROTAG problem. Very cheap and low quality tool that i regret i bought it.

Also dont even bother reading pass from nec. Dont renew nec or you will damage chip and you will never be able to recover.

Yeah this is avdi.

I just bought Benz full software and this is my biggest mistake in my life purchasing this software.

I Recommend diagspeed for mercedes benz.

have a nice day

[EMCE159]

Hello
I'm trying to change mileage on w204. I changed manually in cluster, made ezs as new, then personalized and activated EZS. After that old mileage comes back, did anyone have such problem. It always worked this way but after last update it stopped working. Did anyone met this problem?
Regards

[ecuremap1]

Hello
I'm trying to change mileage on w204. I changed manually in cluster, made ezs as new, then personalized and activated EZS. After that old mileage comes back, did anyone have such problem. It always worked this way but after last update it stopped working. Did anyone met this problem?
Regards

i remember alek saying you need to personalise the esz 3-4 times

[gttuning]

hi all where to get file to update emulator 001?

[raptureready]

does anyone know where the bcm on a audi a5 convertible 2010 8f is located, cant seem to see it in the boot side like older one. just see a module that looks like the roof control and parking assist model where the bcm is on older model, this is a lost key job, will avdi be able to do this one if I find bcm to unplug, any advice welcome thanx