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whiskeyman
13th January, 2018, 09:46 PM
I don't understand this few people are complaing about Subaru.
Then few more about tool not working great, then about bugs and sh...
I know is not the perfect tool but is the best at least for me and I am very sure for many of you is first on list.
I can tell you my experience with the tool. I have full Avdi paid full price for it not promotion and shit.
I also pay full ams and support with kap and I can say that much... I am doing the job with the tool always...support is great also.
Then I also have smok full and tango full , tmpro not full.vvdi.vvdiprog and vvdi mb,Ktag ori and a lot of China clones.
All this tools together are doing the job.
But problem is this business is going worst and worst every day so that's the reason for them complaining...hard to charge money for jobs when all this cheap clones come out and others does it for peanuts.
Or as I see they are always the same people complaing about it...Don't get me wrong boys but is thru..
If I was you Alek I will not take any shit from these people ... So never coment again here let them pay support as all of us if they want answer.

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and the reason you have all these china tools are??????????
after you have paid tens of thousands
Speaks for it self

lush29
13th January, 2018, 10:08 PM
and the reason you have all these china tools are??????????
after you have paid tens of thousands
Speaks for it selfReason for having China clones and different tools is to back me up. In case big tools fails..because i know i can not expect everthing to work with 1 tool.( avdi in this case). I am doing this in daily bases this bring food to table on my house my father did this before me( I mean repairing cars), this is what I do for leaving, so I can't afford to send clients away and I also understand that a lot of them here wants to buy an tool and make jobs cheaper then us but is job is as barman or so..and bought licence to make keys and wants to make $$$$ a lot and get free software and support and shit ...and expect to be easy That's the reason for having different tools.
Btw have autologic also and few other basic diagnostics and software's for diagrams and shit..
And I will not mind if China will stop making cheap tools because of them this jobs and market become shit..

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whiskeyman
13th January, 2018, 10:18 PM
Reason for having China clones and different tools is to back me up. In case big tools fails..because i know i can not expect everthing to work with 1 tool.( avdi in this case). I am doing this in daily bases this bring food to table on my house my father did this before me( I mean repairing cars), this is what I do for leaving, so I can't afford to send clients away and I also understand that a lot of them here wants to buy an tool and make jobs cheaper then us but is job is as barman or so..and bought licence to make keys and wants to make $$$$ a lot and get free software and support and shit ...and expect to be easy That's the reason for having different tools.
Btw have autologic also and few other basic diagnostics and software's for diagrams and shit..
And I will not mind if China will stop making cheap tools because of them this jobs and market become shit..

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i also same do this for a living
day in day out
rain or shine 365 days of the year
and if I pay high end money
i expect better than a 50 dollar Chinese tool

AlekN
14th January, 2018, 10:18 AM
I just cannot continue being Don Quixote fighting against windmills.

rapidlocksmiths
14th January, 2018, 01:19 PM
that is a shame but understandable under the circumstances

whiskeyman
14th January, 2018, 02:15 PM
Understandable why?
hes had plenty time to answer all year
plenty oppertunity to have a one on one with guys
plenty log files
plenty time to answer
and to be honest
most have been holding back and being as polite as possible

even you martin were on about buying vvdi
Its sad after paying thousands for vag and bmw
now too many glitches

but to be fair
the fiat and opel and citroen still very good

rapidlocksmiths
14th January, 2018, 03:21 PM
understandable because no one responds well to verbal abuse and as has been said just being here attracts such abuse towards him , so better to take ones self out of a hostile enviroment . branding someone a thief could well be libelous in some countries without proof of theft .
so i fully understand removing yourself from such , even if you or others dont , its just a shame that manufacturers feel this way , now for answers everyone must pay for support and ask their questions this way as most of us do, i doubt its his loss if no longer posting.

yes im considering vvdi as well , for obvious reasons , pays to have options , but im holding out till smart pro is released as rumours make this very interesting for golf mk7 family , new jlr kvm units and volvo , so this may well be instead of vvdi or i may still look at both , im in no hurry as i have abrites which regardless of its issues still does far more than it fails on and il still be adding licences to my avdi as still a very good token free tool that makes me a good living.

i agree fiat , opel and psa are excellent , renault , nissan and mitsubishi are good too , and ford has saved day more than once , vw is still one of best out there , bmw is better since recent updates , so plenty of positives which are never mentioned , in fact if reading threads here you get the impression its a very poor tool and abrites are thieves which is definitely not the case . so no im not surprised hes called it a day , most sane people wouldnt remain in a hostile enviroment , at least he was here , unlike most of the manufacturers who are not as wouldnt put their heads on block .

i-vtec
14th January, 2018, 08:55 PM
heh pay for support - you must be joking!

when i buy full avdi it was free support and update software FOREVER - that was on the wab site and that told me the seller - IT'S A NEXT CHEAT AND LIE FROM ABRISHIT COMPANY

if tool will be without bugs support not necessary beacuse working!

joemajdalani
14th January, 2018, 11:18 PM
heh pay for support - you must be joking!

when i buy full avdi it was free support and update software FOREVER - that was on the wab site and that told me the seller - IT'S A NEXT CHEAT AND LIE FROM ABRISHIT COMPANY

if tool will be without bugs support not necessary beacuse working!

Ever other scan tool was also free updates & no yearly subscriptions.
Look now(example)AUTEL charging around $1000usd and no one is complaining.
Other professional SW out there charging a lot more than $1000 usd....
If these Companies don't charge yearly fees who's going to pay the ten's of Developer
they have & all other....

lush29
14th January, 2018, 11:59 PM
heh pay for support - you must be joking!

when i buy full avdi it was free support and update software FOREVER - that was on the wab site and that told me the seller - IT'S A NEXT CHEAT AND LIE FROM ABRISHIT COMPANY

if tool will be without bugs support not necessary beacuse working!Here m8 when did you buy this Avdi tool.
The way you say, it looks you have it for long time maybe you bought 8-10 years ago full for 10k , thru?...yes is thru.. and at that time was the only perfect tool out there.So what's your problem??? you had 8 yers to make the 10k if you didn't make then you should charge more for jobs. Stop posting you Subaru shit and non sence complaing.
You and few others pushed away the only free support we had here from Avdi ( shit or not was something) ..
Stop complaing buy other tool if your not happy and carry on this is life.
Will not make anything then pissing a lot of people off... your are not the only one in this Ok?
STOP

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isma123
15th January, 2018, 01:02 AM
Here m8 when did you buy this Avdi tool.
The way you say, it looks you have it for long time maybe you bought 8-10 years ago full for 10k , thru?...yes is thru.. and at that time was the only perfect tool out there.So what's your problem??? you had 8 yers to make the 10k if you didn't make then you should charge more for jobs. Stop posting you Subaru shit and non sence complaing.
You and few others pushed away the only free support we had here from Avdi ( shit or not was something) ..
Stop complaing buy other tool if your not happy and carry on this is life.
Will not make anything then pissing a lot of people off... your are not the only one in this Ok?
STOP

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HE BOUGHT BEFORE , and the promotion 10K was just five years ago !!

wake up mate ;

i understand him, not agree with;;; his avdi should have paied it self plenty of time , also ams is not that expensive, and i undertand that we neeed to pay extra service ( online service ) to prevent ourselves from cloning, stealing, downloading speed,


btw
we talk again about subaru, because it was unfair from abrites, the anwer is :"you have no choice if you want it back then buy it !"
they just could keep it for people who own it and sell to new costumers , personally i don't use it and never had to use it (subaru)


alek is a normal and a nice guy , as i met him, he likes his company, he's not salesman of abrites but in developpement team , maybe he don't decide strategy, but should report what costumers thinks , as abrites growth now there are 90 employees dont blame him !

alek during your internal meeting report what is happening on the net !

ps80l
15th January, 2018, 01:57 AM
The last few post are stupid. You guys do not see I-vtec point. If I buy a tool and they tell me free updates and free support. That is our agreement. I don't care if the tool already paid itself of.

I bought mine recently and was told about ams and that I have to pay support. So I understand I have to pay. I-vtec should not pay at all. That was agreement with his seller and abrites. Simple.

whiskeyman
15th January, 2018, 03:18 AM
i see I-Vtec point
as we were in same boat and complain about this to abrities and it fell on deaf ears years ago
same as the license lottery that changes every 6 month

me personnaly its still my first choice of tool on most jobs
but i now feel like it has many fails on cars it used to do with ease
especially the older vag

now i say to myself
if was to start again
would i buy this tool again

simple answer ................no
does it shine as bright as it used to ,when miro and the team was there.............no
do i feel confident with the tool now................not as much as i used too
do i feel that there is adequate support on this tool...........feel like there never really has been since day one
will i invest in the tool in the future as i have done all these years...................no
i would prefer reliablility over
being worlds first no1 to produce shit that dont work and full of bugs

just my personal choice and views of a long time user

offsystem
15th January, 2018, 06:42 AM
Has anyone already tested vn007 or vn008???

wintesla
15th January, 2018, 07:07 AM
Some guys like ivtec and other need first to read offer when buy something.
Also when install need to read disclamer.
And at last if you not like Avdi sell it and you solve all your frustration.
What you expect from Alek?
Reslove problem or add new function at same time when you start to think about this?
First of all Alek is not developer of sw.Is tech support for
user who not know to ise it very whell, beginers and semi profesional.
Pro user who have abritus long time know how tech support work .
For paying update i not unserstand what is problem.
Is same when you buy car without navi, and then you decide to install .For this normaly you must pay.
Or you think factory must install navi free because you decide ?

gttuning
15th January, 2018, 09:31 AM
Guys who ever os not happy and pissed off the way tool is working why not give it back....recorde few videos that something is not working that should and just return the product.simple...abrites is not in north korea... return the dame thing..help your self....dont wake up every day with f.....abrites dont work.


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AlekN
15th January, 2018, 11:50 AM
Yes, there are videos available on the AVDI FAN youtube channel as well as the video on the VN006. All new VAG functions have a video now and it is more than enough proof to show that Abrites is not as described in this thread. VN007 ialso works just fine, it is just that we do not have a video for it.


Has anyone already tested vn007 or vn008???

isma123
15th January, 2018, 12:07 PM
Some guys like ivtec and other need first to read offer when buy something.
Also when install need to read disclamer.
And at last if you not like Avdi sell it and you solve all your frustration.
What you expect from Alek?
Reslove problem or add new function at same time when you start to think about this?
First of all Alek is not developer of sw.Is tech support for
user who not know to ise it very whell, beginers and semi profesional.
Pro user who have abritus long time know how tech support work .
For paying update i not unserstand what is problem.
Is same when you buy car without navi, and then you decide to install .For this normaly you must pay.
Or you think factory must install navi free because you decide ?


i also put mine to sell


and yes also when i got mine i was told total FREE UPDATES EVERY TWO MONTHS FREE SUPPORT ,as Support help developpement, when i bought FULL VAG EVERYNEW LICENCE RELEASED to vag should be FREE ,

that's what we bought , we paied more for meredes and bmw licence than the supposed 10K full promotion
thats why i v tech complains

we don't have enoght power in this fight !
subaru licence is the best example
that's why i'm selling mine if someone interet pm me :)


i-vtech express loud what many of us think

ventzy
15th January, 2018, 12:15 PM
heh pay for support - you must be joking!

when i buy full avdi it was free support and update software FOREVER - that was on the wab site and that told me the seller - IT'S A NEXT CHEAT AND LIE FROM ABRISHIT COMPANY

if tool will be without bugs support not necessary beacuse working!


This must be a joke. If you buy a full set of Apple products today are you going to expect every new device the company release to be free for you?!

The tool is not being developed for customers who have obviously missed the basic automotive security/immo principals which of course results in all this hate.

ventzy
15th January, 2018, 12:20 PM
Guys who ever os not happy and pissed off the way tool is working why not give it back....recorde few videos that something is not working that should and just return the product.simple...abrites is not in north korea... return the dame thing..help your self....dont wake up every day with f.....abrites dont work.


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I would suggest training courses. Nope - not so simple as complaining.

ventzy
15th January, 2018, 12:23 PM
Has anyone already tested vn007 or vn008???

Both functions work for VDO/Continental dashboards 2014+. A blank transponder/key is needed for the VN008 which is a bit difficult to find.

ventzy
15th January, 2018, 12:26 PM
The last few post are stupid. You guys do not see I-vtec point. If I buy a tool and they tell me free updates and free support. That is our agreement. I don't care if the tool already paid itself of.

I bought mine recently and was told about ams and that I have to pay support. So I understand I have to pay. I-vtec should not pay at all. That was agreement with his seller and abrites. Simple.

What kind of argument is that?! Go and ask Apple to give you one of the latest 2018 devices for FREE because you have purchased their full set of devices in 2010..

ventzy
15th January, 2018, 12:27 PM
Ever other scan tool was also free updates & no yearly subscriptions.
Look now(example)AUTEL charging around $1000usd and no one is complaining.
Other professional SW out there charging a lot more than $1000 usd....
If these Companies don't charge yearly fees who's going to pay the ten's of Developer
they have & all other....


Too complicated to get it.

ventzy
15th January, 2018, 12:33 PM
Hi to everyone, so far I know what we managed to show you. I will know more details later and tell you all the details as soon as I have comprehensive information I can share.

At the moment VDO/Continental 2014+ only.

ventzy
15th January, 2018, 12:36 PM
I do not see anything stressful. It is a modification to make the procedure easier. That's it.

All keys lost is not available at the moment.
VN008 programs both transponder and remote(keyless also) for models 2014+ with VDO/Continental. That is for the moment.

Virtual cockpit is not supported yet.

ventzy
15th January, 2018, 12:37 PM
Hello Alek ,
Great Job ! , thank you for thye video .
one question please , the new function VN008 can support the keylessGo ?
because , the most cars ( MQB ) have this function.

Yes, it does.

P.S. Virtual cockpit is not supported yet.

ventzy
15th January, 2018, 12:42 PM
if the case what has happened to a3 ??? was always reliable , AlekN is this being fixed or have we lost this now ? as it seems we lose coverage on each update ? please look into this asap


This should be not caused because of the aftermarket radio. Please check whether the theft protection is active.
In any case send the log files for more information on the matter.

offsystem
15th January, 2018, 12:50 PM
Both functions work for VDO/Continental dashboards 2014+. A blank transponder/key is needed for the VN008 which is a bit difficult to find.Must it be a key ordered from dealer or a virgin transponder?

If yes which transponder i need?

ventzy
15th January, 2018, 12:53 PM
Must it be a key ordered from dealer or a virgin transponder?

If yes which transponder i need?

A key from the dealer would be ok. If you find a virgin transponder would be ok as well.
We call it Megamos AES.

topclef
15th January, 2018, 01:03 PM
A key for the dealer would be ok. If you find a virgin transponder would be ok as well.
We call it Megamos AES.

now , all is clear regarding new function MQB , thanks :02.47-tranquillity:

ps80l
15th January, 2018, 03:13 PM
What kind of argument is that?! Go and ask Apple to give you one of the latest 2018 devices for FREE because you have purchased their full set of devices in 2010..

Another stupid person. That is not what he is saying. He never said he expects free updates because he bought full package.... He said abrites and seller agreed to give him free updates and free support. This does not mean they are going to send him new hardware and parts. I'm looking at it from a legal common sense point

ventzy
15th January, 2018, 03:32 PM
Another stupid person. That is not what he is saying. He never said he expects free updates because he bought full package.... He said abrites and seller agreed to give him free updates and free support. This does not mean they are going to send him new hardware and parts. I'm looking at it from a legal common sense point

Are you able to read? If yes then read the description of the AVDI and let me know where exactly the unlimited support plan is mentioned from your legal common sense point.
http://shop.abrites.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=53

totalkey
15th January, 2018, 03:33 PM
What kind of argument is that?! Go and ask Apple to give you one of the latest 2018 devices for FREE because you have purchased their full set of devices in 2010..


Every company charge for updates, but not every company adding 10-20 new functions every year and stop fixing old functions and charge thousands of Euro for it, and also taking free functions.
Basically I better buy new avdi with full functions other than update my tool. It's sounds reasonable too you that new costumers will pay less than old costumers for getting the same functions?
I never seen this behavior in other companies. But maybe you seen it ?

ventzy
15th January, 2018, 03:39 PM
Every company charge for updates, but not every company adding 10-20 new functions every year and stop fixing old functions and charge thousands of Euro for it, and also taking free functions.
Basically I better buy new avdi with full functions other than update my tool. It's sounds reasonable too you that new costumers will pay less than old costumers for getting the same functions?
I never seen this behavior in other companies. But maybe you seen it ?

Hardware products become obsolete, software ones as well and in the meantime the technology is changing.
Are you guys really know what are you saying?! What your arguments are? I cannot see any reasonable argument.

iamfooser
15th January, 2018, 03:41 PM
Every company charge for updates, but not every company adding 10-20 new functions every year and stop fixing old functions and charge thousands of Euro for it, and also taking free functions.
Basically I better buy new avdi with full functions other than update my tool. It's sounds reasonable too you that new costumers will pay less than old costumers for getting the same functions?
I never seen this behavior in other companies. But maybe you seen it ?Maybe existing customers complains too much. Hahahaha. Hence they are ditching us.

One thing I learnt is that nothing in life is free.



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totalkey
15th January, 2018, 03:46 PM
How said it should be free?
This discussion going nowhere

ventzy
15th January, 2018, 03:58 PM
Have an intel core i5 running laptop. hmm...I thought this would be quick enough.

CPU speed has nothing to do with the TCP/IP protocols.

ps80l
15th January, 2018, 04:06 PM
Are you able to read? If yes then read the description of the AVDI and let me know where exactly the unlimited support plan is mentioned from your legal common sense point.
http://shop.abrites.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=53

Here we go being stupid again.... He clearly mention when he bought unit several years ago. You are reading the current disclaimer/rules. You have to keep your word as a company. You can change rules but if should only affect newer buyers who are agreeing to new terms and conditions.
It's like you paying for one year ams...abrites then cancels after one month and tell you it's now 1k euro... You are going to be happy they broke their one year agreement?

ventzy
15th January, 2018, 04:19 PM
Here we go being stupid again.... He clearly mention when he bought unit several years ago. You are reading the current disclaimer/rules. You have to keep your word as a company. You can change rules but if should only affect newer buyers who are agreeing to new terms and conditions.
It's like you paying for one year ams...abrites then cancels after one month and tell you it's now 1k euro... You are going to be happy they broke their one year agreement?

Who is the dealer that does not provide any support to him? :)

solitaire
15th January, 2018, 04:22 PM
This must be a joke. If you buy a full set of Apple products today are you going to expect every new device the company release to be free for you?!

The tool is not being developed for customers who have obviously missed the basic automotive security/immo principals which of course results in all this hate.
bad comparison:

i bought Iphone 5s with software version ~7 or 8 4 years ago and today got free update with new functions and bug fixes.
i think nobody want free new devices or new licenses, but bug fixing must be free.
and bug fixes must be priority no 1.

totalkey
15th January, 2018, 04:30 PM
Who is the dealer that does not provide any support to him? :)
@ventzy your "smart" comets doesn't make you smarter.
you just joined this forum so be aware that we can figure out very fast who is seller messenger and how is authentic user!
I will advise you to just read first 6 months and learn how is the vibe here.

ventzy
15th January, 2018, 04:36 PM
bad comparison:

i bought Iphone 5s with software version ~7 or 8 4 years ago and today got free update with new functions and bug fixes.

Does it support the latest technologies like water resistance, wireless charging etc., image stabilization optimization ?!
The technology improvement is not always related to the HARDWARE (main focus of the Apple products).

Our main focus is the SOFTWARE.

So the comparison is not bad for a person who is able to understand what I am saying.

ventzy
15th January, 2018, 04:38 PM
@ventzy your "smart" comets doesn't make you smarter.
you just joined this forum so be aware that we can figure out very fast who is seller messenger and how is authentic user!
I will advise you to just read first 6 months and learn how is the vibe here.

@totalkey, your "Veteran" level doesn't make you different than the others. This is unnecessary.

wintesla
15th January, 2018, 04:45 PM
i also put mine to sell


and yes also when i got mine i was told total FREE UPDATES EVERY TWO MONTHS FREE SUPPORT ,as Support help developpement, when i bought FULL VAG EVERYNEW LICENCE RELEASED to vag should be FREE ,

that's what we bought , we paied more for meredes and bmw licence than the supposed 10K full promotion
thats why i v tech complains

we don't have enoght power in this fight !
subaru licence is the best example
that's why i'm selling mine if someone interet pm me :)


i-vtech express loud what many of us think


Yes you get and still you get and in future you get update and bugfix for option what you have.

You buy it for 10k on promotion. And now you say cost more than on promotion.
Unterstand word PROMOTION?

Disclamer and term of seling is same now , in promotion and beafore 5 years.


WHat you expect ?
Every thing what you not have you get free?
Iphone realise new firmware for phone8 year old nad get new function?
Yes true, but not get new camera, new display, new batery , not get new option what exist on iphone 8 or X.



Be real.

About tech support from who you buy AVDI?
Frome dealer or directly from Abritus?

i-vtec
15th January, 2018, 05:13 PM
some user on this forum realy understud me like: ps80l, isma123, totalkey - thank you!

maybe other users also open eyes and see what abrites doing with us

and of course now is better bay a new device or update old because new user must pay less than old loyal clients and this is also not god

you ventzy lie like alekn

for what the ~~~~ you give me link for you store with description

i buy this ~~~~ing shit before you work on abrites - so listen idiot in begining of this tool on abrishit company website was FOREVER FREE SOFTWARE UPDATES (NOT NEW FUNCTION IDIOT - ONY SOFTWARE UPDATE - NOW I MUST PAY FOR THIS IN AMS - THIS IS CHEAT) and FREE SUPPORT - for years i send tousends of logs and problems - YOU NEVER EVER HELP ME

DON'T TAKE SHIT ABOUT APPLE OR OTHER COMPANY - ABRISHIT PROMISES ME WHEN I BUT FREE SUPPORT AND FREE SOFTWARE UPDATE - YOU UNDERSTAND NOW OR YOU ARE TOTALY IDOIT?

NOW ABRISHIT TOTALY NO SUPPORT, HE LIE, CHEAT AND HE AS A THIEF (HE TAKING BACK FUNCTION THAT PREVIUS WORK - MANY MANY EXAMPLE)

I have no patience with you ignorance anymore

wintesla
15th January, 2018, 05:19 PM
I-vtec
are you idiot or only acting idiot?

Johnner
15th January, 2018, 05:23 PM
Guys...come on...no need for this

Just make your point in a rational,calm manner

No need to rip each other apart...

rapidlocksmiths
15th January, 2018, 05:27 PM
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rapidlocksmiths
15th January, 2018, 05:28 PM
This should be not caused because of the aftermarket radio. Please check whether the theft protection is active.
In any case send the log files for more information on the matter.

log files were sent and the answer was relayed to me 24 hours later , it had a rare software version not supported yet , cant fault support once logs sent off , checked them and answered within 24 hours over xmas period , hats off to support and speed of response , abrites now trying to obtain a cluster with that software version on it so they can add it , so great service from support. if i could have seperated the customer from their cluster for a few days they were confident they could have added it , so sending logs does work.

i-vtec
15th January, 2018, 05:28 PM
I-vtec
are you idiot or only acting idiot?

what part of my point is not clear for you mr no one?

do you have avdi? it's a full version?

@rapidlocksmiths (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/225894-rapidlocksmiths) exelent support - not supported version and work not done - we will se how many time will let to add support for this - time start from 01.01.2018

i_shot_the_sheriff
15th January, 2018, 05:35 PM
I had some good expirience with Abritus support too.....
Always get a reply in either 1-2 hours or 24 hours depending on the request....

I think they are trying their best....
I don't justify that we tend to lose some functions that previously worked..... and I demand them back too....! When I use avdi I always have in my mind that it might not work (that's why I have other tools too)
But I can't blame their support for this !

I think we do a shitty job ,,, truly ! [emoji12][emoji12]

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topclef
15th January, 2018, 05:37 PM
I think his thread will be closed if you continue to write insults ....
so please guys ! as johnner said , make your point in a rational , calm manner

rapidlocksmiths
15th January, 2018, 06:03 PM
when i bought my avdi , support , updates and bug fixes were free , and this was the case for a number of years . It was then announced that to receive updates and support in future an active ams would be required , the free support and updates didnt just end , the change was properly announced and openly , even when we moaned about this as used to this free , it was explained that this was necessary to cover ongoing development costs going forward , so notice of the charge for ams was announced openly and explained fully , whether agree or not it was properly announced , so we can have no real issues on this , and lumped with extended warranty its not a bad price in my opinion , and theres been a good few updates with plenty of free coverage if subscribed to ams , so i feel it harsh to complain .

the suburu issue is a greyer area , it was openly announced on the news page of abritres when it was 1st released as free to all users with a valid ams , when it was just taken away when the updated function was released it caused upset to many as was deemed a perk of subscibing to ams , as this is what the announcement said , free to all users with ams , and it was for a year . not the end of the world , but announcing something as free and then taking it away will always be met with anger or upset , most of us have moved on long ago .

all of us who bought our avdi before the infamous full promotion have paid alot more for less functions , and must still pay alot more if we want to add the full functions , but we should have all acheived payback , i know i have , it does sometimes feel existing users are forgotten and overlooked in promotions , however recent promotions have included far better discounts for existing users than in past , so it seems abrites do listen and im sure could do more . all firms lower prices to attract new clients , just look at the insurance industry , we may not like it but its normal .

perhaps if upsets and issues were dealt with in a more adult manner , then more would be achieved , no one can deny abrites is excellent kit and most have made a good living from it , if unhappy you can sell it and spend the money elsewhere .

going forward , all it takes is abrites to listen and maybe understand the issues raised , even concede on some , consider the existing user in the same way the consider the new user , clearer announcements better manuals and im sure alot of the issues would vanish , users maybe contact support first before ranting and raving online , refrain from abusive or liablous name calling , and who knows every body may well do better from it .

or everyone can continue name calling and falling out and nobody wins or gets anywhere , this has fast become like a schoolyard brawl.

rapidlocksmiths
15th January, 2018, 06:08 PM
what part of my point is not clear for you mr no one?

do you have avdi? it's a full version?

@rapidlocksmiths (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/225894-rapidlocksmiths) exelent support - not supported version and work not done - we will se how many time will let to add support for this - time start from 01.01.2018

i can only comment on the support i recieved , i was asked for logs within an hour of submitting a ticket , and once submitted had my answer within 24 hours and over the xmas holiday period , how can anyone fault that service. the answer of a rare unsupported version of software may not be the answer i wanted but was an honest answer and offered to add it quickly if i could get the cluster to them , if not they will try to source one and add it at a later date . so although dissappointed it wasnt covered i cant fault the response , and im not sure anyone has every software version and cluster covered .

so in this case support was excellent

i-vtec
15th January, 2018, 06:11 PM
me too answere shit about 1-2 hours - sends me e-mails with questions and after that is loong time silence...

@rapidlocksmiths (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/225894-rapidlocksmiths) you have right in some things

the worst in abrites is like ventzil and alekn behave... i told 1 things and he answer not about

i say that when i bay update and support will promise to be free and vebtzl send me links to actual offer - it's normal? it means he don't respect anybody with brain!

rapidlocksmiths
15th January, 2018, 06:22 PM
me too answere shit about 1-2 hours - sends me e-mails with questions and after that is loong time silence... in that case this is an issue you should take up with whom ever supplies your ams and support on a 1 to 1 basis , maybe you will get a better response from them this way , i suspect the response will be better than the response from rants on a forum .
if you pay ams and dont get the support you pay for from your distributor , complain to abrites direct .

i hope you get it worked out

wintesla
15th January, 2018, 06:34 PM
what part of my point is not clear for you mr no one?

do you have avdi? it's a full version?

@rapidlocksmiths (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/225894-rapidlocksmiths) exelent support - not supported version and work not done - we will se how many time will let to add support for this - time start from 01.01.2018

Yes i have FULL.

and for your info im with Abritus from first day of existing Abritus.

doctore
15th January, 2018, 06:41 PM
time is for :beer: :beer: :beer:

isma123
15th January, 2018, 06:55 PM
Yes you get and still you get and in future you get update and bugfix for option what you have.

You buy it for 10k on promotion. And now you say cost more than on promotion.
Unterstand word PROMOTION?

Disclamer and term of seling is same now , in promotion and beafore 5 years.


WHat you expect ?
Every thing what you not have you get free?
Iphone realise new firmware for phone8 year old nad get new function?
Yes true, but not get new camera, new display, new batery , not get new option what exist on iphone 8 or X.



Be real.

About tech support from who you buy AVDI?
Frome dealer or directly from Abritus?



bought it long before the 10K promo , and yes costed me more than that, you are from abrites i know i can give you my ID's ... as i have more than one on MP so you can check

and maybe youre new and not awared about EARLY coMPANY POLICY !

isma123
15th January, 2018, 07:02 PM
imagine apple asking for an ams :) lol


when we say bug fix , it means for car that are supposed to work and not , or car that WORKED BEFORE AND WON't any more

i personally had the case of my own E71 X6 made key with avdi 3years before, never updated cas never took it to bmw and now impossible to make a working key on cas 3+

WINTESLA i payed separatly for Bm6 Bm8 Bm10 Bm5 Bm4 Bm2 Bm003 ((( will never get bn013 because i payed a vvdi that goes smooth )))and i cant make a key for my own car using the cloud software !

i-vtec
15th January, 2018, 07:59 PM
bmw online is totaly shit he facked me many bmw!, reading of isn from siemens ecu is a joke, bmw online can't correct add key to cas, edit fa - reading forewer and don't stop

WINTESLA so you are from abritus company yes?

totalkey
15th January, 2018, 09:51 PM
I was writing long post and it's got deleted. So bottom line- if abrites was acted like a normal company and at least making deticated forum with basic communication too costumers, and fixing old functions , 75% of this complaining wasn't here, but you chooses to ignore our request for at least 4 years and you chooses to ignore the need to fix old functions, and you chooses not to give clear view on future functions policy. So eat your own garbage and keep losing costumers to better and cheaper companies.
I done with spending more money on this kind of people.

totalkey
15th January, 2018, 10:12 PM
Also just for showing new comers the better avdi alternative - Toyota key programming full + avdi hardware around 2k euro and you can't reset 2011+ cars with blade keys g type and h type

Tango Toyota key programming + hardware of tango around 1.3k euro - you can reset all keys lost till 2017+ cloning + many keys by dumps for free.
No need annoual fee and updates are free. And free forum with the owner support!

In abrites you should expect buying new Toyota functions every new system updates.

I can keep bringing more examples for alternative tools for the same or better coverage on almost any car makers with .
Maybe 5 years ago avdi was great choice but if I was starting my business today it was my last choice even after cheap China x100 and etc

rapidlocksmiths
16th January, 2018, 12:23 AM
is volvo key programming really hours on abrites , as i dont have this licence yet , was put off by the wait times, so either holding on for smart pro or diagnostic box looks interesting on volvo , or is the abrites software for volvo as quick on same coverage as diagnostic box ?

isma123
16th January, 2018, 01:20 AM
Also just for showing new comers the better avdi alternative - Toyota key programming full + avdi hardware around 2k euro and you can't reset 2011+ cars with blade keys g type and h type

Tango Toyota key programming + hardware of tango around 1.3k euro - you can reset all keys lost till 2017+ cloning + many keys by dumps for free.
No need annoual fee and updates are free. And free forum with the owner support!


In abrites you should expect buying new Toyota functions every new system updates.

I can keep bringing more examples for alternative tools for the same or better coverage on almost any car makers with .
Maybe 5 years ago avdi was great choice but if I was starting my business today it was my last choice even after cheap China x100 and etc



DONT SAY THAT MATE :)
LET ME SELL MY INTERFACE first !


lol you got the point


is the same when vour(new) vn3 costed you 7000€ and you need to add 800€ TO THE VN008

totalkey
16th January, 2018, 01:44 AM
DONT SAY THAT MATE :)
LET ME SELL MY INTERFACE first !


lol you got the point


is the same when vour(new) vn3 costed you 7000€ and you need to add 800€ TO THE VN008'


keep it as a souvenir

doctore
16th January, 2018, 07:44 AM
'


keep it as a souvenir

It's good that we did not lose sense of humor:rofl::rofl:

ventzy
16th January, 2018, 08:40 AM
bmw online is totaly shit he facked me many bmw!, reading of isn from siemens ecu is a joke, bmw online can't correct add key to cas, edit fa - reading forewer and don't stop

WINTESLA so you are from abritus company yes?



We have had some functionalities to fix and they have been already fixed, we are trying to update constantly our database to the latest available versions which BMW releases (every month probably) instead of asking the customers to find whatever files by themselves.

wintesla
16th January, 2018, 09:25 AM
bmw online is totaly shit he facked me many bmw!, reading of isn from siemens ecu is a joke, bmw online can't correct add key to cas, edit fa - reading forewer and don't stop

WINTESLA so you are from abritus company yes?

What do you care if I'm from Abritus?


VENTZY don't go into the FIRE

i-vtec
16th January, 2018, 04:40 PM
We have had some functionalities to fix and they have been already fixed, we are trying to update constantly our database to the latest available versions which BMW releases (every month probably) instead of asking the customers to find whatever files by themselves.

1. Every time i wrote that bmw has a bug you say that is impossoble because you software is a ideal product and every time you wrote that is my fault.
Now you wrote that you fix? WHAT YOU FIX IF THIS SOFTWARE WAS A IDEAL AND WITHOUT BUGS?

2. BMW is still a piece of shit. Find some Siemens ecu and start ISN reading you see ISN but ecu has a internal error - only fix is use ISTAP or BMW Explorer.

3 Many many bugs with CAS by OBD - ISN writting not working corectly.

4. You even know when bmw releses psdzdata - many times i wrote that bmw online has outdated psdzdata - you always give me shit on that and now you HIDE display version of pszdata on bmw online.

5. Abrites knowlage about bmw is very poor - you even test this software on cars - just on single bmw motorcykle.

6. Abrishit clone FEM/BDC support from BMW Explorer, but wher is a milage correction in BDC/FEM, where is overwrite ISN/SK/KEY/DATA function in FEM/BDC.

7. Almost every flash = ecu dead. So don't UPDATE ANY ECU WITH BMW ONLINE!

and many many other things...

ventzy
16th January, 2018, 04:47 PM
1. Every time i wrote that bmw has a bug you say that is impossoble because you software is a ideal product and every time you wrote that is my fault.
Now you wrote that you fix? WHAT YOU FIX IF THIS SOFTWARE WAS A IDEAL AND WITHOUT BUGS?

2. BMW is still a piece of shit. Find some Siemens ecu and start ISN reading you see ISN but ecu has a internal error - only fix is use ISTAP or BMW Explorer.

3 Many many bugs with CAS by OBD - ISN writting not working corectly.

4. You even know when bmw releses psdzdata - many times i wrote that bmw online has outdated psdzdata - you always give me shit on that and now you HIDE display version of pszdata on bmw online.

5. Abrites knowlage about bmw is very poor - you even test this software on cars - just on single bmw motorcykle.

6. Abrishit clone FEM/BDC support from BMW Explorer, but wher is a milage correction in BDC/FEM, where is overwrite ISN/SK/KEY/DATA function in FEM/BDC.

7. Almost every flash = ecu dead. So don't UPDATE ANY ECU WITH BMW ONLINE!

and many many other things...

Please go and code a FEM with your BMW Explorer on the F series with ista-p > 60 . Please show us the result.

i-vtec
16th January, 2018, 04:53 PM
What do you care if I'm from Abritus?


VENTZY don't go into the FIRE

because if i'm right you are biased

now read carefully if you are from 1 day with abrites in your opinion is a fair that he promise free support and update forever and now he want money? it is justice?

next thing if you saying all avdi function works correctly - you are a liar

or maybe you don't spend any euro on avdi and you get avdi free?i

many many function was taken away, many many function working before and now not working - abrisit company don't fix any errors - only relese new function and take money!

before abrishit relesed as first new function - NOW JUST CLONING OTHER TOOLS

I DO NOT STOP SAYING TRUTH ABOUT AVDI - I KNOW YOU DO NOT LIKE THIS!

i-vtec
16th January, 2018, 04:56 PM
Please go and code a FEM with your BMW Explorer on the F series with ista-p > 60 . Please show us the result.

YOU don't answer of ANY i say ANY of my question because my question is uncomfortable for abrishit company

i give you thousands thousands of euro - just want working tool - that's it...

ersin
16th January, 2018, 05:46 PM
Hello my friend
I bought a fvdi 18 software full 2015
MJD6F3 virgin
how can i solve this problem
There is an antenna problem and some chips are not recognized
I can not enter some diagnostic units
can you help me
are there any friends who can find this problem

ttzag
16th January, 2018, 05:50 PM
Hello my friend
I bought a fvdi 18 software full 2015
MJD6F3 virgin
how can i solve this problem
There is an antenna problem and some chips are not recognized
I can not enter some diagnostic units
can you help me
are there any friends who can find this problem

this thread only for ORIGINAL AVDI not for fvdi

totalkey
16th January, 2018, 05:55 PM
1. Every time i wrote that bmw has a bug you say that is impossoble because you software is a ideal product and every time you wrote that is my fault.
Now you wrote that you fix? WHAT YOU FIX IF THIS SOFTWARE WAS A IDEAL AND WITHOUT BUGS?

2. BMW is still a piece of shit. Find some Siemens ecu and start ISN reading you see ISN but ecu has a internal error - only fix is use ISTAP or BMW Explorer.

3 Many many bugs with CAS by OBD - ISN writting not working corectly.

4. You even know when bmw releses psdzdata - many times i wrote that bmw online has outdated psdzdata - you always give me shit on that and now you HIDE display version of pszdata on bmw online.

5. Abrites knowlage about bmw is very poor - you even test this software on cars - just on single bmw motorcykle.

6. Abrishit clone FEM/BDC support from BMW Explorer, but wher is a milage correction in BDC/FEM, where is overwrite ISN/SK/KEY/DATA function in FEM/BDC.

7. Almost every flash = ecu dead. So don't UPDATE ANY ECU WITH BMW ONLINE!

and many many other things...

You can add don't read flash 8f3 duacto fiat ecu. After reading ecu have many errors. Also many years knowen issue that never been fixed

i-vtec
16th January, 2018, 06:11 PM
You can add don't read flash 8f3 duacto fiat ecu. After reading ecu have many errors. Also many years knowen issue that never been fixed

i can add many realy many bugs on the list!

ersin
16th January, 2018, 08:27 PM
Hello my friend
I bought a fvdi 18 software full 2015
MJD6F3 virgin
how can i solve this problem
There is an antenna problem and some chips are not recognized
I can not enter some diagnostic units
can you help me
are there any friends who can find this problem

friends what can FVDİ do
where is the most successful

newone
16th January, 2018, 08:45 PM
friends what can FVDİ do
where is the most successful
they have told again that this thread is for the original,AVDI,for clone,Fvdi,there is a thread here http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/492087-*****-FVDI-Technical-Support-*****
post there,here you are not going to have answer

ventzy
17th January, 2018, 09:06 AM
You can add don't read flash 8f3 duacto fiat ecu. After reading ecu have many errors. Also many years knowen issue that never been fixed

Send me one of the problematic MJD 8F3 ECUs.

totalkey
17th January, 2018, 10:04 AM
Send me one of the problematic MJD 8F3 ECUs.

Are you kidding?
Send you the ecu to Bulgaria?
This problem happened to few other people's.
Go to your nearest scrapyard and buy used ecu and test it when you developing the software!

totalkey
17th January, 2018, 10:08 AM
Also you can destroying few tpx4 and tpx2 when you trying to copy on tag tool, because I already destroyed like 10*10 Euro's transponders and reported here and by email many times, for 100% sure abrites didn't test it before adding it to tag tool.
And didn't added cn transponders to replace tpx .
What a joke of company!!
The only company that doesn't support cn chips

totalkey
17th January, 2018, 10:17 AM
@ventzy let see how you giving a honest replay to the transponders issue!

And we will fixing soon , send logs etc are not considered as proper reply!
This is well knowen issue for many years

i-vtec
17th January, 2018, 10:30 AM
totalkey please send this ecu to bulgaria but of course abrishit must pay for delivery

not pay real delivery price but delivery price like we must pay abrishit for every single thing from store = 50 EURO!

so abrishit you must pay 50 euro for delivery :applause: how do you feel now?

wintesla
17th January, 2018, 11:11 AM
I-vtec
now i see what Idiot you are.Not acting.You are realy idiot.
I not understand
why you pay AMS and buy update if not work , if not like tool, i you have beter etc and continue with same shit from month to month.Only idiot make this strange thing.
Realy not understand.

About abrites i have it 13 years and my first interface is nr 20.
Yes i give money to Abrites.
And yes on some way im from abritus.

Ducato 8f3 work r/w eeprom and flash .I make several in last month.

totalkey
17th January, 2018, 11:21 AM
I-vtec
now i see what Idiot you are.Not acting.You are realy idiot.
I not understand
why you pay AMS and buy update if not work , if not like tool, i you have beter etc and continue with same shit from month to month.Only idiot make this strange thing.
Realy not understand.

About abrites i have it 13 years and my first interface is nr 20.
Yes i give money to Abrites.
And yes on some way im from abritus.

Ducato 8f3 work r/w eeprom and flash .I make several in last month.
Can you answer about the transponders issues?
Or you want to make it boxing ring with vtec

i-vtec
17th January, 2018, 12:07 PM
wintesla you are idiot too because every single avdi user know that this interface has many many bugs and abrites never fix them!

i bay ams because abrites forced me to buy because without it many function stop working - you understand now why i pay AMS? this is not my goodwill ...

ventzy
17th January, 2018, 12:26 PM
Also you can destroying few tpx4 and tpx2 when you trying to copy on tag tool, because I already destroyed like 10*10 Euro's transponders and reported here and by email many times, for 100% sure abrites didn't test it before adding it to tag tool.
And didn't added cn transponders to replace tpx .
What a joke of company!!
The only company that doesn't support cn chips

You have to use original TPX2 transponders for the 4D and TPX3/4 transponders for the HITAG2 , you have used a Chinese one.
I just tested it..
Hater..

totalkey
17th January, 2018, 12:56 PM
wintesla you are idiot too because every single avdi user know that this interface has many many bugs and abrites never fix them!

i bay ams because abrites forced me to buy because without it many function stop working - you understand now why i pay AMS? this is not my goodwill ...

Buddy don't you see it's not practical to hope things will be changed by posting here in dk.
Now he even blame this chips even they are in original package from jma sold by jma official seller, and that zedbull successfully copy this chips, and this issue was brought up by many user's.
I just gave up on this discussion

i-vtec
17th January, 2018, 01:13 PM
I know perfectly well that nothing will change, never.

This is only P.R., they hope that people will not stop buying avdi but everybody can see on dk how they threat own clients and this is not a positive image...

discussion it's without any sense because it's like beating a head against a wall

they just do not have this strength and knowledge as before and therefore they can not fix anything

now they are focused on copying solutions from other devices and selling them at the highest and most expensive

CaioW
17th January, 2018, 01:16 PM
You have to use original TPX2 transponders for the 4D and TPX3/4 transponders for the HITAG2 , you have used a Chinese one.
I just tested it..
Hater..


You guys have here the answer, please try it and report, dont make another thread be closed.

totalkey
17th January, 2018, 01:23 PM
You guys have here the answer, please try it and report, dont make another thread be closed.

Are read what wrote?
I tried 10 original tpx4, show me video that it's working and I try again, don't want to destroyed more

wintesla
17th January, 2018, 01:34 PM
About transponder?

Protag sw is free.
Copy 4d and 46 works good.but all depend of transponder
protag is desinget to work with ori transponder, but china when is good also can work.To much time i have problem with china transponder.Not only with protag , also with zed bull and full.
I say again is FREE and if have time repair and put new.function.

Ivtec from your post i supose you have mbq activation and fem.activation.
Why you buy if other function not work?
For me every one who think some device is not good.but still buy function is idiot.

I not say Avdi is perfect.Every device have bug and from update to update this bug is fixed.
But from uodate to update to much bug is fixed.How i know?Because if i find some bug i send all waht need and get new sw to test.
Or when some new car i get in office i test it complet whay work what not work.And developer try to solve
For example Bmw online i reflash BMW GS1200 2016 year and i kill it.But in 30 min all is resolved i start to refkash again with sucess and add new equipment (navi, quckshifter) and program finished
How?
Cloud sw have all log on server and developer can see what is problem and repair.

But if yoh dont know what and how to make , is not.problem.in device.

If you make to.much good thing noone say nothing, but if you make one bad thing you are bad
Same with abritus
Some thing only abritus work.
Somw thing when have temporary bug or you not know how to make thnw is shit.

So i say again IVtec you not acting.You are really IDIOT.
If you want free start develop your sw and hw, buy china thing and sell abritus and noy need to pay AMS and update

PremierD
17th January, 2018, 01:36 PM
Again ... slanging match and no real answers .. so Closed