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  • freck
    DK Veteran
    • Jul 2008
    • 1076

    #1

    DM500 and N3 upc card

    Been hearing whispers that peeps have got the new n3 upc card working on a dreambox rather than using the subbed box.
    Using Eagle image V5,can any members confirm this here.Better to use the trusted 500 rather than that ugly pace receiver.I know that the card and box are paired but could it be done??
    Could be a pile of rubbish but I said I'd ask anyway.
    Freck
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  • john8867
    Top Poster
    • Dec 2008
    • 152

    #2
    interesting post mate but can u be a bit more specific about what u have been hearing...?

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    • tomhick024
      DK Veteran
      • Dec 2008
      • 559

      #3
      Originally posted by freck
      Been hearing whispers that peeps have got the new n3 upc card working on a dreambox rather than using the subbed box.
      Using Eagle image V5,can any members confirm this here.Better to use the trusted 500 rather than that ugly pace receiver.I know that the card and box are paired but could it be done??
      Could be a pile of rubbish but I said I'd ask anyway.
      Freck

      Have a look here buddy!

      Whatever!!

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      • red devil
        DK Veteran
        • Oct 2008
        • 690

        #4
        Originally posted by freck
        Been hearing whispers that peeps have got the new n3 upc card working on a dreambox rather than using the subbed box.
        Using Eagle image V5,can any members confirm this here.Better to use the trusted 500 rather than that ugly pace receiver.I know that the card and box are paired but could it be done??
        Could be a pile of rubbish but I said I'd ask anyway.
        Freck
        yes it can be done....and its being done on sat peeps are even sharing their
        official n3 cards.....but.....as stated in that image download....

        Ready for Nagra 3 cards as long as you know the details of your box.

        meaning what you need is the box key and rsa key....only the box key can be got
        from a n1 card....both need to be got from the box itself and not possible to
        get it from the card....and if you do manage to get it from the card well done you have cracked n3

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        • billy2
          DK Veteran
          • Jul 2008
          • 1381

          #5
          this is what i have been keeping my eye on from an other forum


          If your receiver model "xxx" is old type ( was sold/rented with nagra 1 smartcard ), then it use ONLY boxkey and ird in camcrypt session.

          Eaven if now it work with nagra 2 or nagra 3 smartcard ( after exchange made by provider ).

          If your receiver type "zzz" was sold/rented with nagra 2 or nagra 3 smartcard, then it use boxkey and rsa in camcrypt session.

          And i'm talking here about "models/types" if you have some old receiver from yesrerday ( but old one type, that was working some time ago with N1 smartcard ), and you get it from provider with N3 smartcard - then it also will use only boxkey and ird in camcrypt session.

          I was working with some cables receivers already, and now i know that this cable nagra smartcards - from UPC or TELENET ( nagra 2 ) are working only under Sbox. Newcs don't make session with this smartcards - it is some newcs error. All this smartcards have boxkey and rsa, and work under Sbox or Sbox/Cccam.

          Problem can be in case that cable nagra2 / 3 smart card with boxkey only ( from old receiver ), because Sbox can work only with smartcard with boxkey and rsa. And Newcs read this cable smartcards in wrong way....

          Maybe with this cards will work Gbox or other emus... cardserver....
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          • alexh
            Top Poster +
            • Feb 2009
            • 225

            #6
            I take it this is all in Ireland?

            Even with the N3 subscription card you cannot watch channels not included in your subscription can you?
            Last edited by alexh; 16 November, 2009, 01:15.

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            • red devil
              DK Veteran
              • Oct 2008
              • 690

              #7
              Originally posted by alexh
              I take it this is all in Ireland?

              Even with the N3 subscription card you cannot watch channels not included in your subscription can you?
              correct alex as what peeps want to do is just to get their
              dreambox to read their n3 card as the cc boxes are crap

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              • Bonesy
                DK Veteran
                • Mar 2008
                • 655

                #8
                And why are people not setting up cardshare cable on n3 as they do on sat?
                I was thinking of doing this when we go n3 in uk.
                Setup: 2x Dreambox 800HD | 3x Dm500S on Motorised dish Setup

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                • tomhick024
                  DK Veteran
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 559

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Bonesy
                  And why are people not setting up cardshare cable on n3 as they do on sat?
                  I was thinking of doing this when we go n3 in uk.
                  In ireland, sevice is shxt, so I (prob many others) wouldn'd be bothered on mmds if N3 hits.
                  Just got a Technomate 9100 setup on c/s on Astra 2, but def going to install motorised setup, for when the enevitable happens! Sat is the way to go!(IMHO)
                  Whatever!!

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                  • elhefe
                    Member
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 85

                    #10
                    hi all
                    just to throw my 2 cent in here i have a pace box sent away for boxkey extraction but its taken a lot longer than anyone has expected i dont know why but as soon as i get the boxkey info i will test to confirm what is needed. can some please tell me as there is not a lot of info with the eagle image what cam is needed to read the n3 card is it newcs or is it the common interface(assuming a valid boxkey is available)
                    elhefe

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                    • red devil
                      DK Veteran
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 690

                      #11
                      Originally posted by elhefe
                      can some please tell me as there is not a lot of info with the eagle image what cam is needed to read the n3 card is it newcs or is it the common interface(assuming a valid boxkey is available)
                      elhefe

                      CCcam 2.0.4 + MPCS + NEWCS

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                      • elhefe
                        Member
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 85

                        #12
                        ok everybody
                        i have boxkey and the ird. ive installed cccam and newcs on a test dk 1.1 image. ive tried boxkey number 1 and no joy im planning to use the second boxkey to see is that my issue as it is still black. i do have several questions
                        do i need the ird of the box to get newcs operational or not??

                        am i right in saying the boxkey goes into newcs and then use an n: line in cccam to read the card?
                        should the file be called newcs.xml or NewCs.xml for newcs to read it correctly?

                        at the moment all i am trying to do is get the offical n3 card to read in the dreambox to verify that i have correct keys so any help will be greatly apericated.

                        please note i am NOT planning to operate a cardsharing server using my dm500 i just want to get my legit card working to get my beloved off my back she is ripping me over sending the reciever away to retrieve the boxkey so any help will be really really appericated
                        Last edited by elhefe; 19 November, 2009, 00:45. Reason: a plea

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                        • hatchet
                          Top Poster
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 159

                          #13
                          Originally posted by elhefe
                          ok everybody
                          i have boxkey and the ird. ive installed cccam and newcs on a test dk 1.1 image. ive tried boxkey number 1 and no joy im planning to use the second boxkey to see is that my issue as it is still black. i do have several questions
                          do i need the ird of the box to get newcs operational or not??

                          am i right in saying the boxkey goes into newcs and then use an n: line in cccam to read the card?
                          should the file be called newcs.xml or NewCs.xml for newcs to read it correctly?

                          at the moment all i am trying to do is get the offical n3 card to read in the dreambox to verify that i have correct keys so any help will be greatly apericated.

                          please note i am NOT planning to operate a cardsharing server using my dm500 i just want to get my legit card working to get my beloved off my back she is ripping me over sending the reciever away to retrieve the boxkey so any help will be really really appericated
                          Did you get this sorted?

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                          • elhefe
                            Member
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 85

                            #14
                            nope scratching my head trying to work it out and getting v pissed off

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                            • red devil
                              DK Veteran
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 690

                              #15
                              Originally posted by elhefe

                              should the file be called newcs.xml or NewCs.xml for newcs to read it correctly?
                              see below m8....dont think its gonna work without the rsa key
                              i was messin about with it over the weekend with a n3 card that
                              i had got bk from the n1 card and no luck


                              line 22 in newcs.xml........<boxkey>example</boxkey>
                              ine 23 in newcs.xml ........<rsa>example</rsa>

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