Bedroom tax, new thread !

[flyingpig]

Seems they are taking the money straight from your claim..both room & council tax,so you have to pay it,no choice..that`ll give us 6 month to get use to it,before they start paying monthly..I`ve to find ?46 a fortnight..no way can i move into a 1 bed flat with my misses..being a schitzophrenic,her life would be at risk..i need a bit of room to move.

How much does the internet cost you?

What do you want more, internet, or your house?

[firestorm]

How much does the internet cost you?

What do you want more, internet, or your house?

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I bet it dose not cost ?92 a month to which the bed room tax will cost jackthelad1.

[thered]

Its not been mentioned apart from myself and i watched a doc last night on 4 about pensioners

Most pensioners have much more income than many jobless so why are they exempt?

because they vote, is the reason upset the oldies and your power is gone


but the show made some valid points millionaires getting winter fuel allowance and state pension, people who do not need the cash still get it

Now i know that they have a right to that money after all they worked their lives for it but surely some common sense and some means testing could help plug a few financial holes

[TULGEYWOODMAN]

Its not been mentioned apart from myself and i watched a doc last night on 4 about pensioners

Most pensioners have much more income than many jobless so why are they exempt?

because they vote, is the reason upset the oldies and your power is gone


but the show made some valid points millionaires getting winter fuel allowance and state pension, people who do not need the cash still get it

Now i know that they have a right to that money after all they worked their lives for it but surely some common sense and some means testing could help plug a few financial holes

so you advocate abolishing state pension for the rich?

So if you become wealthy at what you do, you dont want your state pension?

[Snowy79]

Although it appears wrong that those with loads of money still get benefits I also believe if you've paid your dues you deserve everything you get. Most of those millionaires pay more tax in a year than some will pay in a lifetime. Sure they're still minted but in the majority of cases they've worked for it.

Take away the benefits from those that work hard and one day you'll have a country full of those that think they deserve everything for doing nothing. It's already at the stage where it pays more to have three kids and be unemployed. With benefits you will be on a lot more than the national average wage so why work ?

[flyingpig]

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I bet it dose not cost ?92 a month to which the bed room tax will cost jackthelad1.

Doing a lot of work on this lately, and the average is around ?15 p/w... Most are around ?11, the are a few of around ?22, and one I have been in touch with is ?28 p/w

What I am trying to get at though, is that people on benefits think that rent is secondary and things like, cars, internet, teles, and mobile phones are first in line.

In my house, and most folks who work hard for a living, when money is tight, all of the other things go, and the roof over the head is the most important thing. I have had years of not having sat or cable when I was younger, I can even remember not being able to afford the heating and sitting their wit my coat on to keep warm..

[firestorm]

Doing a lot of work on this lately, and the average is around ?15 p/w... Most are around ?11, the are a few of around ?22, and one I have been in touch with is ?28 p/w

What I am trying to get at though, is that people on benefits think that rent is secondary and things like, cars, internet, teles, and mobile phones are first in line.

In my house, and most folks who work hard for a living, when money is tight, all of the other things go, and the roof over the head is the most important thing. I have had years of not having sat or cable when I was younger, I can even remember not being able to afford the heating and sitting their wit my coat on to keep warm..

You are getting well ripped off with your broadband virmin are doing it at Superfast up to 60Mb broadband plus calls ?5 a month for 6 months then ?19.50 a month and that one of the more expensive deals.Plus net are even cheaper at ?2.99 a MONTH with ?13 line rental so were you get ?11 p/w
I see your point but think its about as correct as your broad band prices.
If you go to sign on they ask you for your email address in fact you can sign on online if you are a single parent plus when you sign on you are asked to create a universal job match account online.Most jobs these days are advertised on the internet.So in my eyes the internet and a phone are essential to getting back to work can you imagine an enployer looking at a CV with out a phone number on it.
I understand sacrifices need to be made at desperate times i too have sat there with no heating and not answering the door .But i have learned from them times and can empathise with people in this situation.I dont think in this day and age that is acceptable in this country.I dont claim any benefits in fact i pay supper tax and own my home.So i am not effected by this bedroom tax but i can see the harm it is doing.
A young girl (18) who i know is having to leave her family home next week over this.Last year she had a mum and a dad and a home she grew up in.Then by a cruel set of event she lost both parents in a bad car crash she was left unable to work (for the time being) and on benefits now she has lost her perants and now her home.
Please please please tell me how this can be right.

[Canker_Canison]

This is off topic & I won't be dragged back into this arguement...

If you go to sign on they ask you for your email address in fact you can sign on online if you are a single parent plus when you sign on you are asked to create a universal job match account online

One of the main reasons they do this, is so they can track you online more easily. It has nothing to do with helping you...And everything to do with Big Brother.

If I ever have to sign on again they won't be getting my email address because I don't have the internet.
Or I'll create an address just for them to use.

[thered]

so you advocate abolishing state pension for the rich?

So if you become wealthy at what you do, you dont want your state pension?

If had good pensions and loads of money and was comfortable without it then i dont think i would miss it no

but im not sure about abolition tbh, it seems decent in theory but im sure many pensioners would see it different

They paid in they are entitled, i get that and fully understand it

But at the same time there are many rich pensioners who do not need it. Winter fuel bus passes are all given regardless of cash in bank

Maybe a little common sense especially around certain benefits could be better spent elsewhere

[TULGEYWOODMAN]

If had good pensions and loads of money and was comfortable without it then i dont think i would miss it no

but im not sure about abolition tbh, it seems decent in theory but im sure many pensioners would see it different

They paid in they are entitled, i get that and fully understand it

But at the same time there are many rich pensioners who do not need it. Winter fuel bus passes are all given regardless of cash in bank

Maybe a little common sense especially around certain benefits could be better spent elsewhere

Well I would NEVER give it up, regardless.

[the government never ceased taking money from me all my life]

While this country wastes dosh on people arriving from other countries......................................... .......

[flyingpig]

You are getting well ripped off with your broadband virmin are doing it at Superfast up to 60Mb broadband plus calls ?5 a month for 6 months then ?19.50 a month and that one of the more expensive deals.Plus net are even cheaper at ?2.99 a MONTH with ?13 line rental so were you get ?11 p/w
I see your point but think its about as correct as your broad band prices.
If you go to sign on they ask you for your email address in fact you can sign on online if you are a single parent plus when you sign on you are asked to create a universal job match account online.Most jobs these days are advertised on the internet.So in my eyes the internet and a phone are essential to getting back to work can you imagine an enployer looking at a CV with out a phone number on it.
I understand sacrifices need to be made at desperate times i too have sat there with no heating and not answering the door .But i have learned from them times and can empathise with people in this situation.I dont think in this day and age that is acceptable in this country.I dont claim any benefits in fact i pay supper tax and own my home.So i am not effected by this bedroom tax but i can see the harm it is doing.
A young girl (18) who i know is having to leave her family home next week over this.Last year she had a mum and a dad and a home she grew up in.Then by a cruel set of event she lost both parents in a bad car crash she was left unable to work (for the time being) and on benefits now she has lost her perants and now her home.
Please please please tell me how this can be right.

Wow -- -Apologies.. Those prices were not broadband prices.... How things can be easily misconstrued.

Those prices were average rent subsidies that tenants will have to pay.

[TULGEYWOODMAN]

Wow -- -Apologies.. Those prices were not broadband prices.... How things can be easily misconstrued.

Those prices were average rent subsidies that tenants will have to pay.

well if we never joined the EU, then we would have kept all the BRITISH money for BRITISH people. We would not be forced to allow immigrants without jobs into the UK.
Just try to emigrate to Canada,Australia,New Zealand or USA.

WE ARE MUGS

[thered]

I agree to a point but how do all the immigrants find jobs, when there are always millions unemployed ?

[maca]

Mainly in all the off license shops seems to be ****in millions working in our local one..

[TULGEYWOODMAN]

I agree to a point but how do all the immigrants find jobs, when there are always millions unemployed ?

Maybe illegal immigrants working everywhere?