neil lennon attacked at tynecastle

[Rodbouy]

Thing is you go onto most fan forums of other clubs and they all hate him too? Whats their reason behind it?
Why was Nacho Novo targeted was it because he was an RC who played for Rangers? What about Mo Johnston. to this day he cant come to Glasgow for fear of that Celtic fans will do to him.

I'd love for a day when all we talk about is football. I really do. There are sick elements who attatch themselves to both clubs.

Like how you never answered my question.

Novo wanst like not because of him being a RC but because he was so Rangers and anti celtic but that goes for lots of rangers players that are die hard rangers fan etc. Was not a religious thing.

As for Mo that was down to how he treated the club. Not because he was catholic. That was down to rangers fan BURNING TOPS and SCARF'S and SEASON TICKETS why ? because you just signed a high profile CATHOLIC.

So again what did Lennon do upon arrival to bring this on him self ?

[McMav]

I dont know what he did. I dare say when he was shown spitting on a rangers scarf didnt help him. Personally I dont like him as a person I dont think he has the dignity and class to be Celtics manager compare him to Tommy Burns and its night and day. Nothing to do with him being RC or from NI I have friends in NI who are RC.Ppart of my family are RC.

[skegsagypsy]

This all stems back to Lennons days playing for Northern Ireland, when he expressed the wish to one day play in an all Ireland football team, since that day he has been the target of extreme Loyalists who incidentally give allegiance to Rangers/Hearts football squads. Lennon in making that comment highlighted his desire for a united Ireland (at least in the minds of the bigots) and thus he suffers to this day. I wouldn't dare diminish the threats against Novo or Lafferty or anyone for that matter, but the threats against Neil Lennon are unprecedented. I personally believe the threats to the others are a cover in the sick twisted logic of the bigots involved, Lennon is their target. Bare in mind 10 people have been charged with alledged criminal/terrorist acts against Lennon/Celtic in the last week again, unprecedented !

Celtic should give Neil Lennon a long term contract NOW, they should act and show the bigots they will not win, Lennon is a courageous individual, who has shown he will not sit at the back of the bus and cower, he has stood up to the bigots, and all decent, right thinking people should stand up for him, regardless of what they feel for his personality, if they/we don't and Lennon is forced out, the bigots succeed and we are left with nowhere to go, as they(bigots)will dictate the future of all football teams as we back off and give them free reign.

[McMav]

Celtic should give Neil Lennon a long term contract NOW, they should act and show the bigots they will not win, Lennon is a courageous individual, who has shown he will not sit at the back of the bus and cower, he has stood up to the bigots, and all decent, right thinking people should stand up for him, regardless of what they feel for his personality, if they/we don't and Lennon is forced out, the bigots succeed and we are left with nowhere to go, as they(bigots)will dictate the future of all football teams as we back off and give them free reign.

I agree they should have it was spoken about on Radio Clyde last night by the panel but they stated the club should have done this earlier and were wondering why they hadn't. Their reasoning was what if the club did and the team had a very poor start next season and they had to get rid of him round christmas how would that reflect on the club.

I personally just dont like him. He has to learn some self control.

Hopefully the peopl who have been arrested are the right people though regarding the bombs and if they are they get the sentence they deserve.

[McMav]

I fear that if he is houded out the nutters from within the Celtic support and there are nutters there I'm sure you will agree. Will start a similar campaign.

[skegsagypsy]

I agree they should have it was spoken about on Radio Clyde last night by the panel but they stated the club should have done this earlier and were wondering why they hadn't. Their reasoning was what if the club did and the team had a very poor start next season and they had to get rid of him round christmas how would that reflect on the club.

He has already done enough in his rookie season to be given another contract, he has signed quality players and brought the thunder back to the club, something that was sadly missing under the two previous managers.

I personally just dont like him. He has to learn some self control.

I'm not being smart here, but have you ever met the man ? You say you don't like him, what do you not like, his passion ? his ginger hair ? Theres not a manager anywhere imho, who speaks as genuinely in interviews about football matters. Compare Lennons interviews to the arrogance of Strachan, polls apart. I wouldn't be a great fan of Walter Smith or McCoist, but thats because they are leaders of my clubs biggest rivals, nothing else ! I dont have a personal opinion of either man as people as I've never met either of them so therefore can't form an opinion.[/QUOTE]

Hopefully the peopl who have been arrested are the right people though regarding the bombs and if they are they get the sentence they deserve.

Fully agree with those sentiments and would add I hope thats the end of the crap, though given that Lennon received more bullets today who knows!

McMav, I appreciate the fact we have debated this subject without getting drawn into any type of slanging match, and that the mods here have let the thread run due to that fact, that is how I feel a forum should run, too many times important threads degenerate into slanging and are forced closed to allow mods some measure of control, well done bud

[McMav]

I'm not being smart here, but have you ever met the man ? You say you don't like him, what do you not like, his passion ? his ginger hair ? Theres not a manager anywhere imho, who speaks as genuinely in interviews about football matters. Compare Lennons interviews to the arrogance of Strachan, polls apart. I wouldn't be a great fan of Walter Smith or McCoist, but thats because they are leaders of my clubs biggest rivals, nothing else ! I dont have a personal opinion of either man as people as I've never met either of them so therefore can't form an opinion.





McMav, I appreciate the fact we have debated this subject without getting drawn into any type of slanging match, and that the mods here have let the thread run due to that fact, that is how I feel a forum should run, too many times important threads degenerate into slanging and are forced closed to allow mods some measure of control, well done bud

Regarding the bold no I havent met him but he loses self control on the touch line far too often I think his anger seems to get the better of him when things do not go his way. Some will say he is wearing his heart on sleeve. Too much of a fan. But rarely do you see other managers in this league run about kicking bottles over in anger. Getting in the face of referees and hanving to be held back while it looks like he is spitting venom at them.

However my biggest bugbear with Neil has nothing to do with football it was how he treated a woman who was carrying his child at the time and threating to do her in via text message that to me was disgusting. He later apologised for it but they fact he could even think that makes me personally have no time whatsoever for him.

But yes I'm glad we can talk about this and not decend into what can normally happen in these kinds of thread.

[mattybhoy]

Here, here Skegs.

This thread was started by a Rangers fan who was thanked several times (including by me) for starting the thread. This isn't a Rangers and Celtic thing or thread. I can sort of understand some of the Rangers fans on here getting defensive about it, but there is no need. I don't think there are any of us lot that our saying 'look at them, they are all racists and bigots etc, etc ' we are not saying that at all.

This thread is about a 39 year old father and son who happens to be a football manager. Who had received sectarian and racists abuse for no doubt most of his life. The thing is now it's gone to a new level of course. I seriously think this could be a watershed for Scottish society - how this is handled and ends up. If the establishment and the masses say 'it truly is time now to kick bigotry and racism out of our society' then all this may lead to much good. However, if Lennon walks, if the SFA are not strong enough, if clubs are not united about this and if Parliament, the Police and courts don't clamp down hard it will open the flood gates on every side and any side of all cultural divides in Scotland.

It's been said before on many occasion... Lennon is not everyones cup of tea, but he does not bring what's been happening upon himself.

[johnboy1974]

thanx for all the replies guys a good debate going on here for my two bobs worth i think rangers should be told to take the union jack down from ibrox and celtic told to take down the tri colour. At least its a start. The scottish government should start hammering secterian behaviour and start an education system throughout the primary schools. If i was mr lennon i would walk away- i would never put my family through this sh*t for the sake of what is after all just a job.

[colin mckenzie]

more sensble debate than ive seen other forums, my 2p worth is its nothing to do with neil lennons personality and more to do with the fact he was a NI international who the fans turned on when he signed for celtic, his religion came into it and since then its a downward spiral of hatred, culminating in what we are seeing now.

[tichmc9]

I honestly cant get over the pish that comes out of some peoples mouth.

Lennon is to blame bla bla fckn bla

What a load of shite.

Boruc got it as well, he blessed him self and that was a crime in the eyes of bigoted Scotland.

Seriously WTF is wrong with these people.

Because Lennon makes gestures with his ears its all his fault.

Because Lennon is from NI its his fault

BECAUSE LENNON IS CATHOLIC FROM NI ITS HIS FAULT

getting nearer the truth !!!!!!!!

Absolute Bull lennon gets abused because he is nothing less
than a ned , i dont recall another successful NI Catholic manager of Celtic Mr O'Neill getting this level of abuse, if he
ever learns to behave himself with the dignity that a Celtic manager should show then maybe this will all die down,stop making him out to be a saint,he has stated in the past his hatred for all things Rangers, and that he was going to War this season, well he got it alright sometimes you reap what you sow, when the video comes out at the end of the season of him ( allegedly) racially abusing two Rangers players i have no doubt there will be another thread defending him.

[colin mckenzie]

Absolute Bull lennon gets abused because he is nothing less
than a ned , i dont recall another successful NI Catholic manager of Celtic Mr O'Neill getting this level of abuse, if he
ever learns to behave himself with the dignity that a Celtic manager should show then maybe this will all die down,stop making him out to be a saint,he has stated in the past his hatred for all things Rangers, and that he was going to War this season, well he got it alright sometimes you reap what you sow, when the video comes out at the end of the season of him ( allegedly) racially abusing two Rangers players i have no doubt there will be another thread defending him.

och well i see there are just as many clowns on this forum as the other...
HE IS A NED?? FFS get a grip man
racially abusing 2 rangers players? is that what it said on follow follow? get a grip dont hate him because of the team he manages... grow up...

[Rodbouy]

Absolute Bull lennon gets abused because he is nothing less
than a ned , i dont recall another successful NI Catholic manager of Celtic Mr O'Neill getting this level of abuse, if he
ever learns to behave himself with the dignity that a Celtic manager should show then maybe this will all die down,stop making him out to be a saint,he has stated in the past his hatred for all things Rangers, and that he was going to War this season, well he got it alright sometimes you reap what you sow, when the video comes out at the end of the season of him ( allegedly) racially abusing two Rangers players i have no doubt there will be another thread defending him.

Ok well like I have asked before, WHAT DID HE DO PRIOR TO JOINING CELTIC THAT MADE THE SLOPES OF IBROX PARK GIVE HIM SUCH SECTARIAN ABUSE ???

Now I dont think he was classed as a NED before this, so what was it. Enlightening me.

Skegs touched on it but want to hear your reason. Lets face it the NED one is the worst reason ever.

Suppose boruc was a ned too or was it just a crime to bless your self.

like this one listen for the 23 sec comment

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBlG5WABEYs]YouTube - Boruc at Ibrox[/ame]

Minority mmmm sounds like it eh

[McMav]

thanx for all the replies guys a good debate going on here for my two bobs worth i think rangers should be told to take the union jack down from ibrox and celtic told to take down the tri colour. At least its a start. The scottish government should start hammering secterian behaviour and start an education system throughout the primary schools. If i was mr lennon i would walk away- i would never put my family through this sh*t for the sake of what is after all just a job.

Sorry but the Union Flag is the flag of this country I see no reason for it to be lowered at all. Scotland is part of the Union afterall. i should say for now as the nutjob that is Salmond will want us as a Republic with himself as the figurehead

[mattybhoy]

A good dabate indeed John apart from the odd one or two posts.. Good to see that most of us as fitba fans are singing from the same sheet on this one.