Is this the End or The End is Nigh

[Murf22]

no m8, it's an english card. haven't you noticed though.. there are a small few channels which have irish adverts.. on english cards..

universal is one (I am told)

I deduced that's the reason for some of the duplicates, same programs but irish web addresses and prices in euro's.. only small number of them though.


..if it is down to the pairing system then won't all channels fail..? we know the serial and extra digit.. wouldn't this upset the boxkey routine.. but then again.. if I'm not mistaken you don't need a boxkey for channels such as history/discovery.. even in pure cccam..

[ITS A SCAM !]

I did not know that you got Irish adverts on UK cards ... I just thought that in Ireland they were given a different one..

[Murf22]

well, you wouldn't normally, I assume the official receiver 'knows' which version to show [similar to regional variations in England].. our receivers don't give a **** and show all of em

I would imagine there is a different card though.. as not all channels have them, and I would imagine in ireland, they would all have to advertise in euro.. so there are massive holes in my knowledge but I've seen it loads of times (as it's the channels i tend to watch.. apart from maybe universal.. that was a tip off from my sister at the time, he he)

[digidude]

theres different channels broadcast, showing different adverts, for different regions. in the same way as a card 'paired' to an address in wales tells the official receiver to set 103 as ITV wales, which carries welsh adverts, there are also variations in some of the subscription channels as well. a full scan will give you 2 Sky1 channels, depending on what card you have clearing the channel, youll either see english adverts, with ?pounds in the prices, or adverst for ROI with Euros as the prices

if you connect to a remote server, or CCcam with hops skips and jumps to god knows how many cards, then there is NO way of knowing the exact geographical location that the card you are connecting to is actually issued to, for example, theres a place in wales, called presteigne, right on the border, one ond of one street, the cards lock in to welsh local channels, 80 yards down the road, the default channels are england regional channels, even though its still a welsh post code

the ONLY way to be sure, is to use your OWN local card

[Murf22]

..the ONLY way to be sure, is to use your OWN local card

yup. england too - no border for miles

[maca]

Its ok stop worrying starview have a new box coming out

[Murf22]

oh no....... someone hasn't read the last few pages..

[mtv1]

Its ok stop worrying starview have a new box coming out

storm in a tea cup scare mongering

is this subject allowed

[digidude]

..if it is down to the pairing system then won't all channels fail..? we know the serial and extra digit.. wouldn't this upset the boxkey routine.. but then again.. if I'm not mistaken you don't need a boxkey for channels such as history/discovery.. even in pure cccam..

all channels have failed for many people, look at all the threads everywhere, from people sharing their card, who wake up one morning, put their card into their official receiver, and EVERY sub channel says

'This is the wrong card for this receiver'

on the screen, HD, SD, premium, basic, every single one of them

less then 10 days ago, i was able to play with a brand new card and box, to get it running in a linux receiver to make a small home multiroom setup where an internet connection wasnt even present, and ONLY the usual 10 digits were needed to create a working boxkey for the premium content to clear, using the extra digit to generate a boxkey DID create a completley different one, and out of curiosity, i tried it, and it locked the channels down again, so, for now, this extra digit is only needed for slys own internal system. i was able to verify this by using their online portal to send a card activation signal, and omitting the last digit (which was an E) on a receiver running older software, so the E didnt actually show in the on screen menu, and even though i was entering the serial number as shown on the screen, slys system refused to accept the number, untill this extra digit was added, then the activation went through instantly

[Murf22]

yeah, but 'this is the wrong card..' is not what the majority have noticed is going on right now.. it's increased ecm times..

and the box key, well if that's the case fine.. I can live without hd myself, I could quite happily revert back to pure cccam and not bother at all with boxkey, but I don't think that'll work.. I think I'd still be looking at high ecms even on channels which boxkey/serial does not impact..

[iceman]

so we are doomed it seems

[digidude]

so we are doomed it seems

not if, but when.........

the boxkey is also needed for the SD 'premium' content, movies and sports

[Murf22]

not if, but when.........

the boxkey is also needed for the SD 'premium' content, movies and sports

..it's been a while since I went through that cccam to oscam switch.. would the 'premium' lineup include history.. as that quite often has high ecms now

..I dunno - I would agree the pairing change was my main suspect too.. until i noticed more casual channels (the type I watch when I'm bored) were being hit, ones I wouldn't have associated with the need for boxkey.. when i think of boxkey the first thing comes to mind is picktv.. (he he) then of course the hd channels.. can't remember what/if anything else was affected back then (and still is)


ooh the mind boggles.. this is the fun part though working it out

[digidude]

if its a HD version of it, then yes m8, its premium, otherwise i think its a basic channel

[mtv1]

not if, but when.........

the boxkey is also needed for the SD 'premium' content, movies and sports

ah ~~~~kit i'll top meself now then