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  • thecheekymonkey
    Newbie
    • Oct 2010
    • 12

    #706
    Originally posted by schnecke1
    hi
    thanks for your statement.
    but
    1. how can i update the card in our situation if not in osxxx?
    2. what security configs do you mean?
    i set au - 0
    even all the block emms are - 1 for now until 1 week before entitlements run out begin june
    3. are there in newer versions more security options? my osxxxx is quiet old, but runs smooth like oiled.
    any advantage in newer versions?
    thanks for any reply
    schnecke
    you cant, you have two option

    1.update in server but people are now reporting that updates are coming through in osxxx which are removing entitlements, forcing them to remove card and update in official box

    2.update in official box

    the thing is, s** seem to be doing this area by area , or groups of cards at a time, **** who knows, it could be numerical order on on the serial numbers of the cards for all we know.

    but when it is your time, at some point , it seems your card will be forced to pair using the new pairing system at which point it is useless for sharing.

    doesnt matter who it is, what hardware you use, what software you use, at some point, in the very near future all cards will have to have the entitlements updated and at the moment theres not a darn thing we can do about it..........

    as there are a very large amount of variables in the way they are doing this, much of this is speculation, and will inevitably lead to the "well my cards ok" " its people not setting this or that up right" comments.............bullshit. its too early to tell if anyone will get past mid / end of june, i think next month we will know more being that they dont update entitlements past a certain amount of time ahead.
    Last edited by thecheekymonkey; 22 April, 2013, 23:55.

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    • digicon
      V.I.P. Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 8261

      #707
      Originally posted by aldo20569
      (a quote i got from a hi-tech server guy)-
      Like I said before alot of servers use the same oscam version then get the same unknown bug then you hear "there's something happening" in the years we have been doing it its been the same stuff mate, things get posted and spread! What you have to remember is there is only so much they can do before they have to send new boxes out to cope with such rubbish and that would cost millions so look at it in the real world. On another note those who are having troubles I bet/guarantee they haven't got all the security set up ;-)

      We've had the update and ours is going great, the problem they have is letting Oscam update the cards now they could be getting dead emms to their cards

      It's total nonsense there was a massive talk and gossip about things like that but it has been for the last 4 years. The reason for some Oscam servers not being able to open channels is due to so many new servers who haven't got a clue how to keep up with updates etc.
      loads of servers have trouble with the sports channels ATM not opening well this is another factor and perfect show off how you run your servers.

      this is conversation i had might be of some use to some
      Originally posted by thecheekymonkey
      whos had trouble opening sports channels? , i think he is just hoping for the best mate. its a fact so far. end of the day i dont think this guy even understands how the cards update , no security features can STOP an update. (what i mean is you have to update sooner or later)

      you have two choices.

      turn updates off untill its a week or two before its your time then enable them to update, but if your unique emms come through and knock your card what are you going to do? nothing, nothin you can do.

      other option is to update your card in the original box. but as has been shown when it is your time, its your time nothing you can do so far.

      his servers going great, good for him for now............

      end of the day they seem to be doing it in lots as has been shown some peoples card have updated and been fine, some have updated and not been fine.

      end of the day we can only really speculate and the take into account all the circumstantial evidence as we will never know the full story...

      peoples cards are being knocked off in oscam even though entitlements should allow otherwise.
      new cards are being paired with the new pairing method

      some peoples cards are updating fine in original box and can still be read
      some peoples cant still be read

      anyways

      i`ll confirm what sakiblateef has stated tomorrow, might as well try nothing to loose and will only back things up....

      incidently i had read this on another forum..

      This has happened to me guys I had two card that have worked using oscam for years now but the other day my cards had no entitlements
      as if they had been wiped.

      I then went to my original box to update the cards and all channels were now active so I took the cards back out the original box and placed them in the oscam box but now the cards are only opening SD entertainment channels and no movies sport or HD.

      *** must have impaired my card which ment I had no.other option.but to put the cards in the original box to repair.

      So for days I have changed oscam versions I have flashed boxes changed con figs pulled my hair out as all this setup has worked for years and now its not.

      "So I had an old pace sd box in the cupboard and thought I would try pairing all my cards to the old pace box via the activate my card website from ***
      After pairing my cards to the pace box the cards work again in oscam but the only down bit is there's no HD

      So if your cards are caught with the new software update pair them to an old box to get them running again hope this helps"
      Originally posted by schnecke1
      hi
      thanks for your statement.
      but
      1. how can i update the card in our situation if not in oscam?
      2. what security configs do you mean?
      i set au - 0
      even all the block emms are - 1 for now until 1 week before entitlements run out begin june
      3. are there in newer versions more security options? my oscam is quiet old, but runs smooth like oiled.
      any advantage in newer versions?
      thanks for any reply
      schnecke
      Originally posted by thecheekymonkey
      you cant, you have two option

      1.update in server but people are now reporting that updates are coming through in oscam which are removing entitlements, forcing them to remove card and update in official box

      2.update in official box

      the thing is, s** seem to be doing this area by area , or groups of cards at a time, **** who knows, it could be numerical order on on the serial numbers of the cards for all we know.

      but when it is your time, at some point , it seems your card will be forced to pair using the new pairing system at which point it is useless for sharing.

      doesnt matter who it is, what hardware you use, what software you use, at some point, in the very near future all cards will have to have the entitlements updated and at the moment theres not a darn thing we can do about it..........

      as there are a very large amount of variables in the way they are doing this, much of this is speculation, and will inevitably lead to the "well my cards ok" " its people not setting this or that up right" comments.............bullshit. its too early to tell if anyone will get past mid / end of june, i think next month we will know more being that they dont update entitlements past a certain amount of time ahead.


      Hi Guy's,


      Please read this post form satsmo and take heed of it : http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums...ml#post1943803

      This thread is again bordering on being closed for good i for one and plenty of other people do not want this to happen so please read the above post and do not and i repeat do not mention anything regarding oscam or servers, the whole topic of discussion in this thread is about the security update and the effect it is happening and not about what settings you have in Oscam or any other server you may have.

      Please stay on topic and no more discussion about banned subject matter.

      Thank you for understanding
      Last edited by digicon; 23 April, 2013, 00:15.

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      • scudno1
        Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 52

        #708
        has anyone that is having these problems tried updating to the newest version of oscam and report back here with the findings.

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        • thecheekymonkey
          Newbie
          • Oct 2010
          • 12

          #709
          apologies and have edited.......

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          • satsmo
            V.I.P. Member
            • Jun 2008
            • 6397

            #710
            Originally posted by scudno1
            has anyone that is having these problems tried updating to the newest version of oscam and report back here with the findings.
            All versions will give you the same result. It is not an Oscam problem, it is not even an entitlement problem, without proper logs, (not just Oscam logs), this thread is going nowhere. However catch22 applies, i.e. why post them on an open forum?

            However there are a few, (few is the correct wording), logs been posted offline, hopefully these will help.
            Last edited by satsmo; 23 April, 2013, 00:19.
            I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer. - Douglas Adams

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            • MFCGAVMFC
              Junior Member
              • May 2008
              • 36

              #711
              Originally posted by waj_uk
              If u had entitlement til 21/5 why did u try updating on the phone or website?

              Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk 2
              No I didn't use the website at that point

              I just used it in the past

              Oscam updated my entitlements the other night and now I've lost the channels

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              • sakiblateef
                DK Veteran
                • Jul 2008
                • 311

                #712
                Originally posted by MFCGAVMFC
                No I didn't use the website at that point

                I just used it in the past

                Oscam updated my entitlements the other night and now I've lost the channels
                This is exactly the same thing that happened to me. I used no online website or rang them up. The card had not been in the official receiver for the past 4 years and I always had AU on so never missed any emms. The reason my card went off was due to the fact that it was my turn to receive the new update. Until it is your turn the card will work as normal in Oscam.

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                • piptaps
                  DK Veteran
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 399

                  #713
                  I have 2 friends who wake up this morning with their entitlements wiped out. It was blank. They havent put the cards back in OG receiver waiting to see if third party software will update the entitlement back. Little hope for that to happen though

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                  • sky1901076
                    Newbie
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 1

                    #714
                    Originally posted by piptaps
                    I have 2 friends who wake up this morning with their entitlements wiped out. It was blank. They havent put the cards back in OG receiver waiting to see if third party software will update the entitlement back. Little hope for that to happen though
                    did they leave AU on , or was AU off with emms all blocked

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                    • despdan
                      V.I.P. Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 544

                      #715
                      Originally posted by satsmo
                      All versions will give you the same result.
                      I wouldnt say thats 100% correct


                      However there are a few, (few is the correct wording), logs been posted offline, hopefully these will help.

                      LMFAO a few & please where can we post offline

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                      • satsmo
                        V.I.P. Member
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 6397

                        #716
                        Correction - almost the same result

                        You can't post offline
                        I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer. - Douglas Adams

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                        • despdan
                          V.I.P. Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 544

                          #717
                          Originally posted by satsmo
                          Correction - almost the same result

                          You can't post offline
                          I'd like to take a look at any logs from 890 box n card at bootup

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                          • satsmo
                            V.I.P. Member
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 6397

                            #718
                            i don't have any boot logs, but sent you a message with where you may find some. "may" been the operative word.
                            I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer. - Douglas Adams

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                            • scudno1
                              Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 52

                              #719
                              Originally posted by satsmo
                              i don't have any boot logs, but sent you a message with where you may find some. "may" been the operative word.
                              what type of logs is it.
                              Last edited by scudno1; 24 April, 2013, 11:16.

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                              • beastman
                                Newbie
                                • May 2008
                                • 3

                                #720
                                Newbie question guys. I have an active paired thomson box but was thinking of cancelling sky as the footy season is now pretty much over. Is there any benefit likely in keeping my subscription live with these old thomson boxes in view of the possible encryption changes?

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