bit of advice on motorised dish

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  • ramjet
    DK Veteran
    • Nov 2008
    • 2995

    #61
    that last attachment is faulty

    anyway, I did say in my previous post that it should all be in alignment to start with, then I did say to move the motor near the elbow
    ie:- the elbow of the L bracket , the dish to motor is left locked up solid once the whole thing is in alignment and never altered
    so the dish to motor connection is left in alignment and not altered, also the motor elevation is set to your latitude of say 54 degrees or whatever and never altered, the lnb should have no skew and is never altered

    what IS altered is the motor where it meets the L wall bracket (left/right) and the dish elevation adjuster (up/down)

    the weight of all the above in your previous pictures is too much in bad weather so as mentioned above it could all crash down
    T-K brackets and some scaffold pole would be a far better and more secure wallmount , preferably not over a door either
    you can use what you have done to learn the process , but be mindful that it needs to be more securely fixed to the wall

    might be an idea to follow what we have said, put it onto thor, take a picture and post it, so we can get an idea where thor is relative to your back wall , ideally it would be at right angles to your back wall but rarely is

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    • gingeee85
      Top Poster
      • Jan 2012
      • 197

      #62
      yes matey deffo pointing due south, used sat finder as someone mentioned to move sat into a sort of position, just going to have to wait for my signal finder now as i still cant pick anything up, should i try the sky lnb in it to rule out the lnb? when people say scew do you mean move the lnb sideways left or right?

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      • gingeee85
        Top Poster
        • Jan 2012
        • 197

        #63
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        this is where sat finder on android puts thor at for me

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        • ramjet
          DK Veteran
          • Nov 2008
          • 2995

          #64
          skew is where the lnb doesnt have the coax cable coming out the bottom at 6 o`clock, but maybe turned clockwise or anticlockwise in its holder , so the coax may point at 5 o`clock or 7 o`clock, but for thor it should be straight down at 6 o`clock (I did mention this earlier so I hope you are reading replies properly !! , )

          your house is south east facing if that is where thor is, meaning you may not get 30w or 15w but should be ok from say 5w though south to 42e including most sats in that arc

          a new lnb should not be faulty and you may find your sly lnb wont fit in the universal holder , but yes if it fits it can be tested, but may have a different "angle2 compared to your new lnb so its purely for testing and nothing else , also make sure them f conns are good as well or it may have no power

          one tip is to use a barrel connector (F barrel) to connect both your cables together and connect to the motor and see if you can move it , this will test the continuity of your cables , we know the main one is ok as its driving the motor. as mentioned earlier this could have been used as a method of checking those cables to a sly dish with sly lnb on 28e, just to prove the cables are ok - options for checking and testing are what newbies need , the longer term hobbyist has spare everything on hand

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          • gingeee85
            Top Poster
            • Jan 2012
            • 197

            #65
            might make a new cable from the spares i have to see if that works, yes was reading replies but you didnt have a much details on scew then as you have now , its coming down at 6, satfinder says thor is there i just cant get a signal at all will do wire tomorrow, its a bit dark now

            edit i acutally have abarrel connecter was gonna try now but the heavens have opend, so deffo gonna wait until tomorrow
            Last edited by gingeee85; 12 January, 2014, 18:25.

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            • ramjet
              DK Veteran
              • Nov 2008
              • 2995

              #66
              am sure there are enough posts on skew on the forum and with google, some knowledge of this game is required if attempting this install but I deffo said to have it pointing straight down, so yes try a different motor to lnb cable and ensure its done the same as that main cable at both ends

              so lets assume your skew is correct, your motor is on about 54 latitude (or whatever yours should be on) and the dish is about 27 degrees , the dish angle from the side view should be fairly perpendicular for thor and not as shown in your earlier side-on pics , I know half a dozen people have mentioned this so check it all again , also check the pointer on the motor is close to zero but not knowing your longitude its hard to say exactly where it should be, if you are 1w for longitude the motor will be on zero, if you were in blackburn or the northwest it would be more like 2 east for thor , for liverpool more like 3 or 4 east due to those cities being west of thor , meaning thor is east of them

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              • gingeee85
                Top Poster
                • Jan 2012
                • 197

                #67
                in the lancashire area, morecambe, just up from blackpool

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                • ramjet
                  DK Veteran
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 2995

                  #68
                  ok thats about 54.1 north and about 2.9w , so thor is 2 east of you so move the motor to 2 east , then line that up on thor , as your zero is more like 3 west for your true south

                  or use the sat at 4w or 5w for lining up on, instead of thor, should you feel the need

                  those would be 1 west or 2 west of you, on your motor pointer , you are slap bang in the middle of 1w and 5w

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                  • martin-f
                    DK Veteran
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 535

                    #69
                    Originally posted by gingeee85
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                    this is where sat finder on android puts thor at for me
                    Are you standing behind the dish when checking ?? Trying to judge the angle of the sky dish in this picture and looking at this one I think you pointing the dish more towards 28e?
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                    • ramjet
                      DK Veteran
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 2995

                      #70
                      agreed (and well spotted) , in which case thor is much further round towards that neighbours dish in actual direction
                      so if he is right it needs to swing more over that neighbours garden than it is now , so more to the right as you stand in the doorway looking down your garden

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                      • martin-f
                        DK Veteran
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 535

                        #71
                        Originally posted by ramjet
                        agreed (and well spotted) , in which case thor is much further round towards that neighbours dish in actual direction
                        so if he is right it needs to swing more over that neighbours garden than it is now , so more to the right as you stand in the doorway looking down your garden
                        I might be totally wrong ramjet iv'e been in the pub a few hours .

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                        • ramjet
                          DK Veteran
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 2995

                          #72
                          well, if he takes another picture from the bottom of his garden incorporating his dish supposedly pointing at thor and his next door neighbours sly dish its definitely a good reference , especially if they both appear to be pointing at or near the same sat

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                          • gingeee85
                            Top Poster
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 197

                            #73
                            right so i need to be point well into the neigbours garden? im getting towards the end of my tether, iv tried putting on the same angle as th sky dish on my wall and still not picking anything up, the wires do work as i double checked them like you posted before. that dish is pointing exactly where sat finder thinks thor is. now iv never had a motorised dish before but are the supposed to tilt and not swivel round?

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                            • ramjet
                              DK Veteran
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 2995

                              #74
                              nobody said it was easy and many have tried and failed and had to get an installer in

                              they actually tilt and swivel at the same time , but the point we were making is that the sly dish next door is pointing at 28 degrees so thor is further round to your right as you stand at your back door , compared to that sly dish

                              so if you put your dish in parallel to his dish , that is sly on 28e, now turn it on the pole (near the elbow) a further 29 degrees to the right and that is where thor is

                              this would mean your back door is facing south east , possibly towards bulsat (39e) or turksat (42e) straight off the back of your back wall , meaning everything is to the right of your back door, my lads is the same and he cannot get 30w because of this but doesnt need it anyway

                              the one thing we are sure of is that your neighbours sly dish is pointing at 28e , and thor is more to the right than what his dish is facing

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                              • gingeee85
                                Top Poster
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 197

                                #75
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                                thats the angle of my sky dish, second pic not great, im at work all day when its light . but if what your saying is right i need to be nearl at a right angle? i guess going of sat finder is not a good idea

                                EDIT::: just realised i left the dish at astra position on the motor
                                Last edited by gingeee85; 13 January, 2014, 19:26.

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