VVDI MB BGA TOOL

[jackie86]

Information update:
Custumer say that he have problem with new key when he close on remote, than open, new key cant give ignition at first time, need to pul out, than second time work fine..
Any advice?


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[iamfooser]

Information update:
Custumer say that he have problem with new key when he close on remote, than open, new key cant give ignition at first time, need to pul out, than second time work fine..
Any advice?


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Common problem on Chinese be keys.

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[jackie86]

Common problem on Chinese be keys.

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Any solution?



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[vitzauto]

program new key

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[jackie86]

Do you mean to reprogram this at new key position or to use other BE key?


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[vitzauto]

some of the keys works perfect,
so try in new position

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[jackie86]

Ok, will try and post results. Thank you..


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[kazikk]

Hi
Can some one share pinout for W246 EZS

[Siham]

This is a FBS4 if i'am not wrong , so how do you think you will read it ? At this moment as far i know there is no chance .
Or you need it for can filter to do km ?

Regards :)

[giovani]

1FFFAFDCF76265D2 <- 1FB5BE859C73A981

regards ficho


Hi,ficho.

OK, I checked renewed ECU, but did not customize, I do not have the car here, I'm just doing the coding on the bench, I have to customize the ECU for the car, but on the bench the manual tool says it's Not possible, someone Do know how to mount the circuit on the bench?


thank you.

[Carsoft2003]

Hi
Can some one share pinout for W246 EZS

pinout pin 8 : Vdd +12 v
pin 9 : CAN L
pin10 : CAN H
pin 11 : GND
You need juste 4 wires to read it ok

[vageric]

This is a FBS4 if i'am not wrong , so how do you think you will read it ? At this moment as far i know there is no chance .
Or you need it for can filter to do km ?

Regards :)

this is still FBS3 mate!

[Siham]

As i stadet ,if i'am not wrong and indeed i was ,thank you mate.:02.47-tranquillity:

[CarCity]

Hi,ficho.

OK, I checked renewed ECU, but did not customize, I do not have the car here, I'm just doing the coding on the bench, I have to customize the ECU for the car, but on the bench the manual tool says it's Not possible, someone Do know how to mount the circuit on the bench?


thank you.

you have customization only by xentri and online on the car

[giovani]

you have customization only by xentri and online on the car

Hi.

I have only xentry off line, and vvdi bga.
I'm change ecu used for another car that is burned.

Regards.

[kazikk]

pinout pin 8 : Vdd +12 v
pin 9 : CAN L
pin10 : CAN H
pin 11 : GND
You need juste 4 wires to read it ok

do you have wiring for EZS and ELV ?
need to connect ignition and steering lock on table

[viorelcarl]

i need help to fnd erase pass for Special key: 8E06090C8785D2B9 edc16cp31
thanks

[jonny r]

i need help to fnd erase pass for Special key: 8E06090C8785D2B9 edc16cp31
thanks

Hello :)

Special Key: 8E06090C8785D2B9
Erase Pass: 2DF66765FA448F04

Regards
Jonny

[ben21]

Hi

Trying to read password with nec adapter from working key W117 year 2013.

get error failed. Any suggestions?

[habbyb]

Hi

Trying to read password with nec adapter from working key W117 year 2013.

get error failed. Any suggestions?
Mate,can read key password from NEC v51, v57 version,read manual.

[giovani]

Hi,SAMIC or DAXXER.


I need help,
I have no success in programming the ECU,
Renew ecu is easy, but programming and customize I have no success.
I have ecu sim271KE20 from w204, the original car burned, I have no date from eeprom 95320, I bought it from ebay and I renewed it OK.
But do not customize, even putting car data, not ecu program and does not generate code for start autorization.

As is the procedure, is it necessary to neutralize EZS in order to recode ECU?


435964435965435966




Thank you in advance.

[solitaire]

Hi

Trying to read password with nec adapter from working key W117 year 2013.

get error failed. Any suggestions?
key version?

[ben21]

key version?

v57.

Yesterday received my NEC adapter and tried it for the first time.

I cleaned the pins and tried agaain. Work great

[habbyb]

Hi,SAMIC or DAXXER.


I need help,
I have no success in programming the ECU,
Renew ecu is easy, but programming and customize I have no success.
I have ecu sim271KE20 from w204, the original car burned, I have no date from eeprom 95320, I bought it from ebay and I renewed it OK.
But do not customize, even putting car data, not ecu program and does not generate code for start autorization.

As is the procedure, is it necessary to neutralize EZS in order to recode ECU?


435964435965435966




Thank you in advance.
Mate,must be adapted with another tools avdi, xentri on line etc.

[giovani]

Mate,must be adapted with another tools avdi, xentri on line etc.

Hi.

I understood that when I bought this tool I would be able to customize and encode the ECU.
I understood that I did not need another ecu customization tool.

[habbyb]

ok. you do not have ecu data org and It is the only way to adapt new one.

[daxxer]

Mate,can read key password from NEC v51, v57 version,read manual.

lazy to read any manual... :-) not stupid answers, in this case only stupid questions... ;)
from that time, when i told him about existing some THANKS button here on DK forum, he used this button +2x more :stupid:

:listen:
:listen:

[giovani]

ok. you do not have ecu data org and It is the only way to adapt new one.

Hi.

I have no data, ECU burned and without eeprom, passed before by another repair service.

[giovani]

lazy to read any manual... :-) not stupid aswers, in this case only stupid questions... ;)
from that time, when i told him about existing some THANKS button here on DK forum, he used this button +2x more :stupid:

:listen:
:listen:

Hi.DAXXER.



You can help me in the post #2510 #2515 #2521 #2525 #2528.

thank you.

[daxxer]

Hi.DAXXER.
You can help me in the post #2510 #2515 #2521 #2525 #2528.
thank you.

1. everything where description begin with some word like SIEMENS = shit before :toilet: hands out of that...
2. this VVDI MB tool is mainly for work with MB keys, not for MAIN work with ECU's or other units... :listen:
3. renewing some ecu or other units are only +bonus.
4. when you haven't any ecu data from the old units, you can try offline programming and coding this ecu manualy
5. or find the same other car and read some codings from there as sample...
6. when not success in point 4, then try it with SCN online access... ;)
7. this work isn't for beginners or not enough with help some other users from another side of the world, need some intermediate
experience before, because coding ECU after renew isn't only for 2x click and finish :(

enough ?

[Boggdan]

W215 ezs 2155450508
motorola 1J35D


all work without unsolder mcu, without reading mcu.
all work OBD end IR on the table.
all keys blocked
renew eis ok
all the keys free
program key ok


a good programmer.

[giovani]

1. everything where description begin with some word like SIEMENS = shit before :toilet: hands out of that...
2. this VVDI MB tool is mainly for work with MB keys, not for MAIN work with ECU's or other units... :listen:
3. renewing some ecu or other units are only +bonus.
4. when you haven't any ecu data from the old units, you can try offline programming and coding this ecu manualy
5. or find the same other car and read some codings from there as sample...
6. when not success in point 4, then try it with SCN online access... ;)
7. this work isn't for beginners or not enough with help some other users from another side of the world, need some intermediate
experience before, because coding ECU after renew isn't only for 2x click and finish :(

enough ?


Hi.DAXXER.

Thanks for the answer
I know ecu siemens is more difficult because I do not know by now who made reading tricore tc1796 flash of this ecu.
I work a long time with ecu mercedes, but this time with this model without original eeprom data I have no easy solution. I tried to find the hash in the hexadecimal file of eeprom from another ECU, but not without success, with that could insert data from Ezs. But without success.

[daxxer]

Hi.DAXXER.
Thanks for the answer
I know ecu siemens is more difficult because I do not know by now who made reading tricore tc1796 flash of this ecu.
I work a long time with ecu mercedes, but this time with this model without original eeprom data I have no easy solution. I tried to find the hash in the hexadecimal file of eeprom from another ECU, but not without success, with that could insert data from Ezs. But without success.

when you have renewed ecu, then not need to find any hash place in eeprom memory, through personalisation learn ecu all hashs from EZS self... :listen: you know ;)

[giovani]

when you have renewed ecu, then not need to find any hash place in eeprom memory, through personalisation learn ecu all hashs from EZS self... :listen: you know ;)


Yes I understand, after renewing with vvdi bga, I have already done renovation.
But now to customize it is necessary to code scn online with stardiag.
I do not have this service in the star.
You indicate someone who can do scn online, has shop in china that makes 100 dollar cost.

[giovani]

when you have renewed ecu, then not need to find any hash place in eeprom memory, through personalisation learn ecu all hashs from EZS self... :listen: you know ;)


Hi.Daxxer.

I believe I have solved the programming of the ECU, the car is far away in another city, changed the personalization, now when you place and remove the car key it changes the hash in the EZS and also in the ECU. But it does not actived. I will put on the car to activate the ECU.



I'll test and count the result.
regards.

[giovani]

Hi.

CAR W212 E350 ECU ME9.7

Someone can help in calculating to renew ecu me9.7 .


SPECIAL KEY : 89180FD027AD3764



Thank you in advance.

[ficho]

@giovani

SPECIAL KEY : 89180FD027AD3764
Erase Pass : 3B8D4DF3FDC95BB3

regards Ficho

[giovani]

@giovani

SPECIAL KEY : 89180FD027AD3764
Erase Pass : 3B8D4DF3FDC95BB3

regards Ficho


Hi.ficho.

PASS OK , THANK YOU.


I would like to know why it is a second ECU that VVDI does not make generation to pass renew.

How is this calculation done, or pass database.


I have good experience with your WESL software.

Regards.Giovani.

[CarCity]

It would be better to ask friends to read the previous post because it was a concrete question and answer design questions is repeated several times a waste of time
Regards


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[dmp]

Tried to read the key password of a v57 key via NEC adaptor. Can identify key and status but unable to read key password (key is damaged and wouldn't start the car or be identified by ir)

Trying to read password to make a key for the car. Getting "ERROR: -2"

What does that error mean?

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[badenaleks]

Man it mean you lost data from key , now you need two tokens for calculating key password for new key ! One time I was have same problem .

[badenaleks]

Hi guys need again your help !!! Unfortunately my VVDI again not calculate Erase pass !
Can you halp me ?
I have Special key: D15716CDDA5E3EB0
I need Erase pass :
Thank you advance !!!

[autocheck]

Samic, You have forgotten about the MB Tool update /upgrade . It has been a while since the last updated. Vvdi2 and Vvdi Prog have been upgrading.

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[jonny r]

Hi guys need again your help !!! Unfortunately my VVDI again not calculate Erase pass !
Can you halp me ?
I have Special key: D15716CDDA5E3EB0
I need Erase pass :
Thank you advance !!!

Hello :)

Special Key: D15716CDDA5E3EB0
Erase Pass: 39792CEBE616D734

Regards
Jonny

[AutoKeyGuy]

Yesterday the same thing happened to me as well!

I had a working V57 key, tried to pull password from key and then got "ERROR -2" as well.

Had to finish job by pulling out EIS from vehicle, then reading with programmer and making key with VVDI MB

[auto techniek]

Hello guys

Strange story

Yesterday I ve got a client who in the past wanted to make a extra spare key from a working key for w164
The car was 6000 km away. This time he bought a empty key from me and got someone who can make a extra key for him without car and ESZ.

Is this possible?

[solitaire]

Samic, You have forgotten about the MB Tool update /upgrade . It has been a while since the last updated. Vvdi2 and Vvdi Prog have been upgrading.


I think Samic not read DK

Samic Last Activity - 16th February, 2017 01:22 PM

[rola1971]

Hello guys

Strange story

Yesterday I ve got a client who in the past wanted to make a extra spare key from a working key for w164
The car was 6000 km away. This time he bought a empty key from me and got someone who can make a extra key for him without car and ESZ.

Is this possible?

no it is no posibility

[badenaleks]

Only Dealer Mercedes can make key without car and EZS !

[paul_12345]

no it is no posibility

Your assuming the guy had never read the ESZ before!

[auto techniek]

Your assuming the guy had never read the ESZ before!
Yes Paul..

The guy does not have a dump but only original let.
? warned him

May be the guy want to clone the original key? two keys in the same position? Who knows?

[autoTkey]

I think Samic not read DK

Samic Last Activity - 16th February, 2017 01:22 PM

I believe he still has not finished traveling around the globe for exhibitions and collecting data. At least I hope that's the case.

[obeids]

Hi there.


So I have client sitting in a neighboring country with a C Class W204. He lost all keys and gave the EIS to somebody to make him and key and now he can't find that guy.
So he is asking if we can provide him a new EIS and keys......


Question:
Do I just get another EIS and get Erase + Key pass then program EIS to the ESL (LOCK)?
Or do I need to get his ECU + ESL and match the whole set up? I would not be able to go to the vehicle as it is too far and border problems all all of that. So can I do the whole thing on the bench with the VVDI BGA EIS Cables + ECU Cable set or does it need to be done on car?


I hope some expert such as DAXXER can help with a reply.


Thanks to anybody that helps though

[daxxer]

Hi there.
So I have client sitting in a neighboring country with a C Class W204. He lost all keys and gave the EIS to somebody to make him and key and now he can't find that guy.
So he is asking if we can provide him a new EIS and keys......
Question:
Do I just get another EIS and get Erase + Key pass then program EIS to the ESL (LOCK)?
Or do I need to get his ECU + ESL and match the whole set up? I would not be able to go to the vehicle as it is too far and border problems all all of that. So can I do the whole thing on the bench with the VVDI BGA EIS Cables + ECU Cable set or does it need to be done on car?
I hope some expert such as DAXXER can help with a reply.
thanks to anybody that helps though

Mate...thanks for your reliance to me ;) but i think this case not so easy work as by some W210 or like that...

ok, get used EIS, calc pass by all key lost,calc new keys, change VIN there(for that step maybe need renew EIS)
renew ELV unit and teach(personalise) to this NEW EIS
renew ECU and teach back to this EIS
what transmission ? 5G or 7G there ? need to teach with EIS too... :listen:
EIS+ESL+new keys on bench ok, ECU, Transmission better to teach in car... :)

[marto4476]

Tried to read the key password of a v57 key via NEC adaptor. Can identify key and status but unable to read key password (key is damaged and wouldn't start the car or be identified by ir)

Trying to read password to make a key for the car. Getting "ERROR: -2"

What does that error mean?

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Had the same situation with w221 with v57 key. First time vvdi identified ssid ,hash counters ,but when i tried to read password there was the same error. The key was dead. Tried to read the nec with simon's touch device and with avdi but without success. Part of the dump was broken. It was the only key of the car and i replaced the eis to save the car. The car was pre-facelift and i couldn't find another all key lost solution.

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[obeids]

Had the same situation with w221 with v57 key. First time vvdi identified ssid ,hash counters ,but when i tried to read password there was the same error. The key was dead. Tried to read the nec with simon's touch device and with avdi but without success. Part of the dump was broken. It was the only key of the car and i replaced the eis to save the car. The car was pre-facelift and i couldn't find another all key lost solution.

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This is a serious issue. They must fix it up because in some instances you could have some lawyers suing you because the car came workign to you and now it cannot drive any longer.
Why don't they have an eeprom read and save function? I mean eeprom of NEC chip? Why can't you press READ NEC and save data? Is it encrypted or some other issue? If you can write NEC by NEC Adaptor then why can't you read it with adaptor? I mean read full data with password?

[vageric]

NO lawyer gonna suing you because the car broke down.
as long you fix it back is no problem.
and i dont see the whole isseu in this matter.
yes the bug have to be fix but
if the key not working or extract the psw then use the token and get the psw.
after that you can make keys working again.
problem solved.

[marto4476]

Vvdi2 has no option "all key lost" for w221 with or without token. That was the big trouble.

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[vageric]

Vvdi2 has no option "all key lost" for w221 with or without token. That was the big trouble.

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in that case is off to the dealer and order a new key.

[marto4476]

Yes that was the second option, but the dealer wants the car in their garage for min. one week. The car owner doesn't like it so much...

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[vageric]

you can see if you can find someone with Diagspeed and do the job for you.

[marto4476]

The job is done the day after. But that's not the point. I can't understand why vvdi2 killed the nec. It was perfectly soldered to the right pcb,jumper was ok and i made all actions corectly.

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[vageric]

ok that i can unsterstand. the why!
and yes if its a bug it need to be fixed ASAP.
espaecially that i read that some people allready encounter the problem.

[AutoKeyGuy]

Hey guys,

Ive been talking with one of the guys from Xhorse support regarding the V57 "Error -2" issue. Next time you get this fault can you please take a snapshot and upload it with the logs for that session so that I can forward it to him. Hopefully we can get this bug sorted out and we can use our NEC adapter to its full potential

Cheers

[autoTkey]

Guys are you talking about the "free" NEC adaptor that comes with the bundle, because some of you mention something about soldering? If so - it is known to cause problems. Even Samic admitted about this some time ago. I didn't have such issues when using the non-soldering socket NEC adaptor which is ordered separately. But I didn't do any v51 after the last update. Before that it was working for sure.

[dmp]

Guys are you talking about the "free" NEC adaptor that comes with the bundle, because some of you mention something about soldering? If so - it is known to cause problems. Even Samic admitted about this some time ago. I didn't have such issues when using the non-soldering socket NEC adaptor which is ordered separately. But I didn't do any v51 after the last update. Before that it was working for sure.
Mine was using the new adapter (non soldering). In my case the key was dead before and would not read via IR

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[marto4476]

Yes I used the free soldering adapter. My opinion was the soldering adapter gives much better pin contact. When they find problem with the "free" adapter they can write it on the official site or on the manual. Not everybody reads this forum .

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[kazikk]

Can some one give erase key
VIN: WDB2110221A857361
Special key: 3BF4E5F9A31853DD
Transport Key: C2E901F0EDBA7C5C

[jonny r]

Can some one give erase key
VIN: WDB2110221A857361
Special key: 3BF4E5F9A31853DD
Transport Key: C2E901F0EDBA7C5C

Hello :)

Special Key: 3BF4E5F9A31853DD
Erase Pass: 94F77B79277041C7

Regards
Jonny

[smayer]

Need errase pass please
Special key: BED5E46FA126F134

thanks in advance

[ficho]

Need errase pass please
Special key: BED5E46FA126F134

thanks in advance

Special key: BED5E46FA126F134
Erase Pass: 106622A2B5D3CF7C

regards ficho

[labusas]

Hello
I have 2008 w164 old style EIS on the bench first time. And can in no way do data acquisition - can't OBD connect. Please check if XHorse gateway is a good one from PIC?
Any other tips? thanks so much. Do I have to connect anything to OBD cable crocodile connector? Is it possible to read this in the car and how to connect?

[exotictoys]

i believe you have to connect to this through gateway. ask user daxxer, he will be able to help you out.



Hello
I have 2008 w164 old style EIS on the bench first time. And can in no way do data acquisition - can't OBD connect. Please check if XHorse gateway is a good one from PIC?
Any other tips? thanks so much. Do I have to connect anything to OBD cable crocodile connector? Is it possible to read this in the car and how to connect?

[labusas]

So this xhorse module is NOT a gateway emulator? The listing is misleading then. I have to wait for Samic or Daxxer to confirm
thanks

[exotictoys]

samic hasn't been around for a while now...daxxer is your best bet. or maybe some other experts here who done one before can help. I haven't done one on the bench as yet so i can't comment on this.

[mercis]

you can use donor zgw for test on bench

[large12390]

hi
please need ears pass of ism seimens with spacial key
Special key: E282535E7EDB8FD2
regards

[habbyb]

Hello
I have 2008 w164 old style EIS on the bench first time. And can in no way do data acquisition - can't OBD connect. Please check if XHorse gateway is a good one from PIC?
Any other tips? thanks so much. Do I have to connect anything to OBD cable crocodile connector? Is it possible to read this in the car and how to connect?
do not waste your time read ezs with programer.

[vageric]

do not waste your time read ezs with programer.

if it is 2008 then it's NEC inside and can not read with programer.

[daxxer]

if it is 2008 then it's NEC inside and can not read with programer.

yes, right ;)

[ficho]

hi
please need ears pass of ism seimens with spacial key
Special key: E282535E7EDB8FD2
regards
HI
Special key: E282535E7EDB8FD2
Erase Pass: 8DD38415260BF0FA
regards Ficho

[habbyb]

yes, right ;)
to post a picture here and we see ezs for our curiosity .

[labusas]

Dear Daxxer, it is definately an EZS with NEC, Can you please help with connecting either in the car or on the bench with all keys lost? Does Xhorse gateway with direct read cable work or not? Or should I get real ZGS?
I try but not work with this vvdishop gateway:
http://www.vvdishop.com/upload/pro/mercedes-w164-gateway-adapter-1.jpg

[vasiliev7719]

A2711535579 SIM4LKE renew- OK

[daxxer]

Dear Daxxer, it is definately an EZS with NEC, Can you please help with connecting either in the car or on the bench with all keys lost? Does Xhorse gateway with direct read cable work or not? Or should I get real ZGS?
I try but not work with this vvdishop gateway:
http://www.vvdishop.com/upload/pro/mercedes-w164-gateway-adapter-1.jpg

Yes, sure is it EZS with NEC inside, not need to check it with eyes :D

1. with real CGW( used anyone from anyone W211, W164, W251 for example) reading sure 100% ok on bench ;)
2. you can remove ZGW from the car from where you remove the EZS, in W164 is his location under driver seat :listen:
3. i not get till now no anyone CGW adapter from Xhorse to my hands, when i can test it...because i have from begin some pcs
of used CGW, then i not need it....but i await one from one "DK" member, when i can test it, when is his function ok or not... ;)
4. i think Xhorse CGW adapter schoud be working.... :) but i can't confirm that before i test it in my hands...

[labusas]

Thanks Daxxer, So REAL OEM gateway from any newer benz will work? I can confirm that http://www.vvdishop.com/upload/pro/m...-adapter-1.jpg (http://www.vvdishop.com/upload/pro/mercedes-w164-gateway-adapter-1.jpg) is NOT working. No communication.

[kevfield]

Look back in my post I show photo of this on bench ..
I will send daxxer w164 emu to test one day

Thanks Kev

[daxxer]

Thanks Daxxer, So REAL OEM gateway from any newer benz will work? I can confirm that http://www.vvdishop.com/upload/pro/m...-adapter-1.jpg (http://www.vvdishop.com/upload/pro/mercedes-w164-gateway-adapter-1.jpg) is NOT working. No communication.

everyone used from car where was installed, for example any W211, W251, W164, W639 ( not all ) and others... :listen:

i think the Xhorse CGW adapter should be working, but i can't confirm that or that...first i need to have it in my hands for testing ;)

btw from where are you ??? maybe you can send me it for testing purposes... ;)


Look back in my post I show photo of this on bench ..
I will send daxxer w164 emu to test one day

Thanks Kev

many thaaaaaaankssssss ;) ;)

[Atex31]

.................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ........ :)

[labusas]

So I bought a used OEM gateway from ML 2009. Car is 2008. Now VVDI reads ezs data under w164 (without gateway it doesn't). But under data aquisition there is NO w164, just OVER 2009 w164. I tried all options for data aquisition and it won't connect without that working key present. CPU in this EZS is DONAU.
Any ideas please?

[dmp]

So I bought a used OEM gateway from ML 2009. Car is 2008. Now VVDI reads ezs data under w164 (without gateway it doesn't). But under data aquisition there is NO w164, just OVER 2009 w164. I tried all options for data aquisition and it won't connect without that working key present. CPU in this EZS is DONAU.
Any ideas please?
I did data acquisition on a w164 last night (07 model). I did have a working key so maybe it's just all keys lost you're referring to?

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[labusas]

Right, I have ALL KEYS LOST. So I guess VVDI MB can't make it then for w164 2008, can it? the manual is clear about it , w164 is NOT on the list with all keys lost. But 2009 and above is.
Those EZS's are different, old is with connectors farther appart, EZS above 09 connectors are closer.
I hope support comes up with solution for this.

[daxxer]

Right, I have ALL KEYS LOST. So I guess VVDI MB can't make it then for w164 2008, can it? the manual is clear about it , w164 is NOT on the list with all keys lost. But 2009 and above is.
Those EZS's are different, old is with connectors farther appart, EZS above 09 connectors are closer.
I hope support comes up with solution for this.

Yes, right...W164 2005-2008 all key lost are not possible yet... :listen:

[dmp]

Is it possible to read the eis data and key password from a blue key? A friend has a w251 with a dead key (they have a spare but can't find it). Couldn't read the password from the v57 key (error 2) but he has an unused blue key and new eis. Tried reading the blue key, it reads it but can't get any data.

I thought other tools could get the data, unsure if it's possible or not.

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[obeids]

Hi there fellow members....


Problem with VVDI and W204 / W246 and adding spare key.


Well I have done a few W204 spare keys and even all keys lost and so got some good experience.
However client said he had a W204 and when he sent me pic of EIS it shows its W246. Nonetheless I can't argue because he insists it's a C class 2014 Model.
I see that VVDI can do the W246 spare key and also all keys lost. SO I told him to bring me the EIS and original key.
I then connected it using the W246 cable and it read EIS data by OBD perfect. I then did password calculation and it did DATA ACQUISITION fine and everything. Upload data and it calculated password first try and charge 1 token. SO I was happy that it went so quick............ Until few minutes later when I programmed the key and now realize that it is not accepting the key. I usually go to the TEST EIS function after coding a key to see if there is CAN signal and then I know it is accepting the key. However with this one it doesn't show CAN signal. If I put his original key in EIS it shows it but with new key nothing. I tried 2 different BRAND NEW BE keys and nothing still. When I read EIS data it still only showing Key 1 and key 2 as used. The Key 3 or 4 not showing as used.....

ANy idea why am I having this problem? COuld ti have calculated wrong password or something else wrong????

437593

[daxxer]

Hi there fellow members....
Problem with VVDI and W204 / W246 and adding spare key.
...
...
...

ANy idea why am I having this problem? COuld ti have calculated wrong password or something else wrong????
437593

when i programming new BE key, then everytime after "write" data to key, i read the key again, when I see how is rightly programmed.. :)
how long you have the BE key inserted in EZS for teaching time ?

try to read hash from orig key with password you get in online calculation, then you can maybe to see, when is valid ;)

[labusas]

If you did data acquisition via OBD, please try again VIA IR this time.

[duplikeytor]

If you did data acquisition via OBD, please try again VIA IR this time.

I thought via OBD or IR is the same, can someone advise if different?

[autoTkey]

Usually by OBD is better. IR sometimes reads different values and you need to read 3-4 times so you can be sure the data is OK.

[labusas]

I had the opposite happen, OBD data would not generate a good .dat file, but when repeated with IR would be OK. Maybe it happened because same process was repeated in general, I don't know...

[3abas27]

plz erased password
special key/ FD7A14EC4994B6F9
THANKS

[obeids]

when i programming new BE key, then everytime after "write" data to key, i read the key again, when I see how is rightly programmed.. :)
how long you have the BE key inserted in EZS for teaching time ?

try to read hash from orig key with password you get in online calculation, then you can maybe to see, when is valid ;)

I repeated the process again by OBD and again it calculated password (same password). However I generated new key files and write keys again and same issue.
Problem is the working key is BGA type Original Mercedes so cannot read pass from key.
Do you think if I read by IR it might be different?

[autoTkey]

You should try by IR too, for sure.
The other day I did a W203 which was with W211 EZS... but this shouldn't affect the programming.

[giovani]

Hi.

I have w204 EZS burned.
I can not remove key pass.
I only have BGA key (dont read pass without ezs)
How shall I go to solve this problem?
I need to know the key pass to place other EZS in operation.

Read ecu:
ssid-68A393EE
erase pass-D7EFD1A8A7273FAD
special key-E1F3057D1A1CF193
key 1-7AC31168FD008893
key 2-0F5A8A88C2DE9574
key 3-7A8F03C68F97A538
key 4-690E7605A871A509
key 5-F8D672A3A6D558C3
key 6-B5646F12C3105176
key 7-6C5F6C13ABBA926A
key 8-AAA3450A51F4B5E3

[MaxMin]

If not fisical damage nec mcu,wath you thing to try swap nec mcu in ezs?

[jonny r]

plz erased password
special key/ FD7A14EC4994B6F9
THANKS

Hello :)

Special Key: FD7A14EC4994B6F9
Erase Pass: C145CE8A1C8F2094

Regards
Jonny

[3abas27]

thank you very much freind all ok
erase pass correct

[large12390]

Yes, sure is it EZS with NEC inside, not need to check it with eyes :D

1. with real CGW( used anyone from anyone W211, W164, W251 for example) reading sure 100% ok on bench ;)
2. you can remove ZGW from the car from where you remove the EZS, in W164 is his location under driver seat :listen:
3. i not get till now no anyone CGW adapter from Xhorse to my hands, when i can test it...because i have from begin some pcs
of used CGW, then i not need it....but i await one from one "DK" member, when i can test it, when is his function ok or not... ;)
4. i think Xhorse CGW adapter schoud be working.... :) but i can't confirm that before i test it in my hands...

hi
naw i have ml 2011 with eis 1649051500 car is far awy
can i do keys becuse all key losed on pinsh i have orginal w211 cgw if i conect its will work dear
or eny anther sulation withot car?
\regards

[daxxer]

hi
naw i have ml 2011 with eis 1649051500 car is far awy
can i do keys becuse all key losed on pinsh i have orginal w211 cgw if i conect its will work dear
or eny anther sulation withot car?
\regards

yes, you can ;)

[large12390]

yes, you can ;)
thanks dear daxxer (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/415766-daxxer)


but i try meany time without sacces please check photo
regards

[badenaleks]

You need two tokens for reading!

[daxxer]

thanks dear daxxer (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/415766-daxxer)


but i try meany time without sacces please check photo
regards

then have somewhere some fault... is readable in EIS menu ?? as W164 or W164 2009-> ? :listen:

[large12390]

then have somewhere some fault... is readable in EIS menu ?? as W164 or W164 2009-> ? :listen:
hi
i know on car will work fine
and on table need that adptor cgw but i dont have that adptor yet
i have orginal cgw
please where is problem u think if accpt read by orgianl cgw
regards

[daxxer]

hi
i know on car will work fine
and on table need that adptor cgw but i dont have that adptor yet
i have orginal cgw
please where is problem u think if accpt read by orgianl cgw
regards

from what car you have the used CGW ???? when i read right, then his number begin with W220.xxx.xx.xx :) this CGW is almost 15 years old unit :D
take out orig CGW from the W164 car....when you haven't anyone other newer.... :listen:

[Carkeysa]

Mercedes Vito W639 Problem. Went with VVDI MB and read via IR. Tried many times but it would not give me the pasword. How will I overcome this? Have taken out the EZS and see a 1L02M chip. How to read this with Xprog? What are the connections and what mask is that for? I've attached the file which it first to see if anyone can extract eith1er the password or key data. This is my first Merc so hopefully I can learn from this experience. Thanks in advance

[mercis]

vvdi dont get pw from vito 908 read direct with upa or xprog r270,
on picture km chip connect

[DKnight]

Could anyone help me with bench test for w906? I can't find cable for this model anywhere

[mercis]

:)sprinter 906 same crafter

[DKnight]

:)sprinter 906 same crafter
Thanks, well that's good to know

[technobox]

helllo i need erase password w204 cant find tool

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key pass : 1D6142A4AE164CD1
special key : 45224A1840B6B2B0

[ficho]

helllo i need erase password w204 cant find tool

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key pass : 1D6142A4AE164CD1
special key : 45224A1840B6B2B0

45224A1840B6B2B0 <- 3A2A380FCEF61D3E

regards ficho

[habbyb]

Could anyone help me with bench test for w906? I can't find cable for this model anywhere
You have to buy something test kit for ezs see here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoSC7jmaKTo

[bursuc]

Or you can use wires and direct connection to EZS + ESL emulator and you are able to test it properly :)

[solitaire]

Could anyone help me with bench test for w906? I can't find cable for this model anywhere
no need buy any cables
for working via IR connect just 4 wires
for working OBD need connect parallel any diagnostic to CAN and open EZS
for testing connect emulator or ELV

438749

[badenaleks]

Again nothing work , what happens , what wrong ?
EZS A207 905 72 01

[badenaleks]

Hey Dexxer do you know what hapen ?

[badenaleks]

Again I think CHINA tools not good tools for professional use !Mercedes Instrument do it ! EASY do it ! I tired from china bull*sh*t

[obeids]

Hi there guys


Well so that 246 Ignition did not work. When I read by IR then it generated a different password but still did not accept key.
Could it be that these NEW eis has a different software or is there a bug in the VVDI?

[obeids]

Does anybody experience the following problem?

When the VVDI BGA tool needs internet access for a certain function such as key calculations and if the internet is off or it cannot connect to the server then instead of it giving you a notice that the internet is off or cannot contact server, the application would crash and windows would ask if you want to send a crash error report. This happens every single time that my internet is off (I don't always keep this laptop on internet). I have to then turn on internet and then restart everything. Not like it's a major issue but it's irritating. Things should work smoothly and so they should consider fixing this bug.

[dmp]

Does anybody experience the following problem?

When the VVDI BGA tool needs internet access for a certain function such as key calculations and if the internet is off or it cannot connect to the server then instead of it giving you a notice that the internet is off or cannot contact server, the application would crash and windows would ask if you want to send a crash error report. This happens every single time that my internet is off (I don't always keep this laptop on internet). I have to then turn on internet and then restart everything. Not like it's a major issue but it's irritating. Things should work smoothly and so they should consider fixing this bug.
I get the same thing. Took me a bit to realize what caused it

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[autoTkey]

Yes, you need to turn on internet before calculating the keys. Just need to remember that. I wrote about it some months ago...

[badenaleks]

Today again not working lost all key

[daxxer]

Again I think CHINA tools not good tools for professional use !Mercedes Instrument do it ! EASY do it ! I tired from china bull*sh*t

why then waste your time with VVDI tool ??? :stupid:
MI are sure better :D

[duplikeytor]

Does anybody experience the following problem?

When the VVDI BGA tool needs internet access for a certain function such as key calculations and if the internet is off or it cannot connect to the server then instead of it giving you a notice that the internet is off or cannot contact server, the application would crash and windows would ask if you want to send a crash error report. This happens every single time that my internet is off (I don't always keep this laptop on internet). I have to then turn on internet and then restart everything. Not like it's a major issue but it's irritating. Things should work smoothly and so they should consider fixing this bug.

I

have the same problem, it would help for them to have a function to check if internet connection is not there, to provide a message to the user.

[badenaleks]

Hey dexxer how about 2 tokens ? You know how read if it not working or no ?

[Maartinj]

Does anybody experience the following problem?

When the VVDI BGA tool needs internet access for a certain function such as key calculations and if the internet is off or it cannot connect to the server then instead of it giving you a notice that the internet is off or cannot contact server, the application would crash and windows would ask if you want to send a crash error report. This happens every single time that my internet is off (I don't always keep this laptop on internet). I have to then turn on internet and then restart everything. Not like it's a major issue but it's irritating. Things should work smoothly and so they should consider fixing this bug.

happen to me ......when I seat comfortable in armchair and want to switch ON TV via remote, and realize that main power plug is not connected to the wall socket , I must pick up up my ass and go there to plug , and back to armchair and use remote to switch TV.
When I order TV guy in shopping center never mentioned me that.....
:chuncky:

[CarCity]

happen to me ......when I seat comfortable in armchair and want to switch ON TV via remote, and realize that main power plug is not connected to the wall socket , I must pick up up my ass and go there to plug , and back to armchair and use remote to switch TV.
When I order TV guy in shopping center never mentioned me that.....
:chuncky:


:chuncky::chuncky::chuncky:

[filoxio77]

hello an info .... I arrived today VVDI MB and I wanted to experiment before using it on my customers' cars. ... if I can program a key MB, then this key you can reuse or do I throw?

[DKnight]

no need buy any cables
for working via IR connect just 4 wires
for working OBD need connect parallel any diagnostic to CAN and open EZS
for testing connect emulator or ELV

438749

If I connect gnd and + to a battery where do I connect k-line to?😬

[obeids]

happen to me ......when I seat comfortable in armchair and want to switch ON TV via remote, and realize that main power plug is not connected to the wall socket , I must pick up up my ass and go there to plug , and back to armchair and use remote to switch TV.
When I order TV guy in shopping center never mentioned me that.....
:chuncky:



Your comparison is wrong.
If your TV wouldn't turn on because the Antenna isn't connected then you can compare it here.
And as it was said above it should rather give a message instead of crashing the app. Many time the internet IS CONNECTED but the VVDI server is too busy or whatever and that causes the app to crash. That is the problem. The software should inform you that it cannot contact server and not just bomb out and have you restart everything again.

[ivanrpm]

If I connect gnd and + to a battery where do I connect k-line to?😬
Hi bro , better buy the platform test for eis, its more safety.

Regards

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[iHenry3]

I'm working on A207 All Keys Lost, fail to get password on second attempt. Do I keep doing Data Acquisition until it find the password or is it possible it won't find the password?

[DKnight]

Hi bro , better buy the platform test for eis, its more safety.

Regards

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cheers mate, have been looking for 1 but can't seem to find 1 for the sprinter

[vageric]

I'm working on A207 All Keys Lost, fail to get password on second attempt. Do I keep doing Data Acquisition until it find the password or is it possible it won't find the password?

try more time.
sometimes you need to try like 3 a 4 a 5 times to get the password

[raints]

cheers mate, have been looking for 1 but can't seem to find 1 for the sprinter
I think buy simple ESL emulator and you are good to go!

[lioncam]

Hi,
I have big problem with w164 year 2008. Old have problem so I read pass and prepare be key but key not turn and teaching all time. I wait around 1 hour without success. 439330439331439332

[daxxer]

Hi,
I have big problem with w164 year 2008. Old have problem so I read pass and prepare be key but key not turn and teaching all time. I wait around 1 hour without success. 439330439331439332

from where you get key password ??? :listen:

[solitaire]

Hi,
I have big problem with w164 year 2008. Old have problem so I read pass and prepare be key but key not turn and teaching all time. I wait around 1 hour without success. 439330439331439332
try this:
Open vvdi
identify key> read password
press activate key button
Status will change from unused to used

[lioncam]

from where you get key password ??? :listen:
I get pass from old key, it is working but read adapter.
This.

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[lioncam]

try this:
Open vvdi
identify key> read password
press activate key button
Status will change from unused to used
I try so light not illuminated but not working ( continued to calculate o'clock dashboard).
This.

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[daxxer]

try this:
Open vvdi
identify key> read password
press activate key button
Status will change from unused to used
i think this function is bad, many people don't know when and how to use it in right way :-(
this function is usable only for big profis, who know what to do :listen:
sure not for any beginner without any knowlege :(

[lioncam]

i think this function is bad, many people don't know when and how to use it in right way :-(
this function is usable only for big profis, who know what to do :listen:
sure not for any beginner without any knowlege :(
I used many times on w210 or w208 but another model not work.
This.

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[solitaire]

I used many times on w210 or w208 but another model not work.
This.

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I try it on several w906 on used key position, work fine

[ivanrpm]

Hi,
I have big problem with w164 year 2008. Old have problem so I read pass and prepare be key but key not turn and teaching all time. I wait around 1 hour without success. 439330439331439332
Just read new key generated by ir, put the passkey on the place of passkey and push activate key and then go to the car , it must work.

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[iHenry3]

try more time.
sometimes you need to try like 3 a 4 a 5 times to get the password

Took 7 tries but finally got it!!!

[daxxer]

I get pass from old key, it is working but read adapter.
This.
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Your key pass is NOT valid !!! ...why you don't read MCU directly from the EIS ??? is more easy, safe and you have complettely dump for keys calculating !!! :listen:
open now EIS and read MCu eeprom directly to get valid key pass !!! thats the problem now...your key password isn't valid.... = LED still light without success teaching !!! ;)


Took 7 tries but finally got it!!!

maximum is 8 times....thats must enough yet ;)

[badenaleks]

Try 8 , 9 , 10 ..... and more , and then maybe you understend how a lot of time you lost !

[Fallen]

Sorry if this has been asked before but I could not find a definite answer within this thread.

I have tried to add spare keys to W164 2009+ a few times (BGA key works car) but it always fails early at the data acquisition stage.
I get an error saying "Can't connect to the EIS".
I have tried this by OBD and using IR.

I can connect to and read EIS data fine it's just the password extraction for an existing BGA key that is causing me issues.

Cheers

[badenaleks]

No need try more than 1-2-3 time , if it not working , then it not working ! Developer should fixing all errors his software and hardware ! But where Developer ?
Daxxer do not lie here, you just lie that everything works well!
1. NEC57 in the new version you can lose data from key!
2. Does not collect data or does not find the password W204 W207 W212 if all keys are lost!
3. Does not always calculate the password of the dealer, although the developer promised that this will work, but still does not work!
4. The unlocking of NEC ELV needs to know how long, maybe a year or more!

If not enough, I will give you more examples!

[CarCity]

If you see ugly face in the mirror if you break a mirror?
This is ridiculous. You should fix their bugs
Friends are like a mirror
All are lies ????

[lioncam]

Your key pass is NOT valid !!! ...why you don't read MCU directly from the EIS ??? is more easy, safe and you have complettely dump for keys calculating !!! :listen:
open now EIS and read MCu eeprom directly to get valid key pass !!! thats the problem now...your key password isn't valid.... = LED still light without success teaching !!! ;)



maximum is 8 times....thats must enough yet ;)
Ezs is with nec not possible to read Mci.
This.

[badenaleks]

Daxxer I have a question, you are on all forums like an VVDI project since 2014, but you are only there where it's about VVDI! Tell me why do not you tell people about the incorrect work of VVDI? Do not advertise, contact the developer and fix your errors in expensive equipment!

[daxxer]

Ezs is with nec not possible to read Mci.
This.

oh sry, i think when you have W906, as Solitaire writed...:D
right, W164 have NEC, not possible to read anything directly from MCU... :listen:
but the fact when you have not valid key password is 100% i think... :(


Sorry if this has been asked before but I could not find a definite answer within this thread.
I have tried to add spare keys to W164 2009+ a few times (BGA key works car) but it always fails early at the data acquisition stage.
I get an error saying "Can't connect to the EIS".
I have tried this by OBD and using IR.
I can connect to and read EIS data fine it's just the password extraction for an existing BGA key that is causing me issues.
Cheers
try W164 before 2009, when VVDI can't connect to EIS with 2009+ option :listen:
you work with EIS in car or on bench ??

[lioncam]

I try on bench and on the car, old key is v57 perhaps pass is corrupted inside or vvdi is bad!! Because I read pass by adapter. So I read data by ir on bench and by obd on the car. Calculate keys two times and same problem.
This.

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[Fallen]

try W164 before 2009, when VVDI can't connect to EIS with 2009+ option :listen:
you work with EIS in car or on bench ??

EIS is still mounted in the car, spare key only.

[gilahish]

Hi, had a 04 w211 st12, eis was ok, i couldn't get pw with ir adapter so i took it out and read it with vvdi prog. got pw and key info. the problem is when i put it back in car it didn't recognise the eis.
tried to open and clean board and it didnt work. I connected another w211 eis that i had in my van, and the car connected to it so it means that problem is eis. any suggestions? did anyone have same problem before with any motorola eis?
Thanks guys.

[vageric]

Hi, had a 04 w211 st12, eis was ok, i couldn't get pw with ir adapter so i took it out and read it with vvdi prog. got pw and key info. the problem is when i put it back in car it didn't recognise the eis.
tried to open and clean board and it didnt work. I connected another w211 eis that i had in my van, and the car connected to it so it means that problem is eis. any suggestions? did anyone have same problem before with any motorola eis?
Thanks guys.


prob you have damage the EIS when reading it.
either hw or sw.

[labusas]

Flash corrupted, more than likely. Need to find same part number EZS and write flash in with rosfar

[vageric]

not to attack any one but
most people always jump and sayed flash is corrupted.
there is more then only flash.
what about soldering bridge or component damage because of heat ect. ect.

[obeids]

No need try more than 1-2-3 time , if it not working , then it not working ! Developer should fixing all errors his software and hardware ! But where Developer ?
Daxxer do not lie here, you just lie that everything works well!
1. NEC57 in the new version you can lose data from key!
2. Does not collect data or does not find the password W204 W207 W212 if all keys are lost!
3. Does not always calculate the password of the dealer, although the developer promised that this will work, but still does not work!
4. The unlocking of NEC ELV needs to know how long, maybe a year or more!

If not enough, I will give you more examples!


I have done W204 all keys lost with VVDi and it worked everytime.
I have unlocked W204 ELV many times also. SOmetimes it unlocks quickly and sometimes take long but it unlocks.

[gilahish]

Flash corrupted, more than likely. Need to find same part number EZS and write flash in with rosfar


Why did it happen do you think?

[vageric]

Why did it happen do you think?


sometimes it just happend. the one mask is more sensetive to get corrupt then the other.
maybe power fluctuation or something like that.

[gilahish]

sometimes it just happend. the one mask is more sensetive to get corrupt then the other.
maybe power fluctuation or something like that.

Can i copy the flash from other w211 eis? is it the same flash for all of them, or i need the same part number? (211.545.17.08), i already have used w211 st12 eis but its not 17.08 like this one

[gilahish]

If i get the same eis, can i write eeprom to it and put in car instead of bad one?

[kevfield]

Yes..

Thanks Kev

[large12390]

hello all
please need ask i have w2215451108 eis losed all keys
and i have eis of w1645450908 with key and pass
can i reblce that eis to 221 when copy dump with new pass
regards

[daxxer]

hello all
please need ask i have w2215451108 eis losed all keys
and i have eis of w1645450908 with key and pass
can i reblce that eis to 221 when copy dump with new pass
regards

oh god...:-) sure not mate !!! :D W221 and W164 have complettely different systems...
W164 you can replace with parts from W251....because this both cars are relatives... :listen:

[giovani]

HI.

I need to renew EZS W204, I am trying to renew without the key.
Is it possible to renew without a password key?

After renewed I used for replacement, original car burned EZS.


THANKS.

[alexxxb0450]

just read manual and you will find out that you need pass(two tokens for all key lost) and erase pass(free) for renew
read forum from first page and then you'll not have any simple questions

[giovani]

What is in the manual I know, and also what we say here in the forum,
but I'm looking for what we do not know, there may be a key dealer password to renew,
someone may know.

[badenaleks]

I tried on two W207 EZS with full loss of keys and I can say this function does not work! You will lose money!
Maybe with OLD mercedes it working?
I did it without problems with the help of Mercedes Instrument!
In this case, I bought only one token for $ 26.6!
Best tool - Mercedes Instument !

[rola1971]

I tried on two W207 EZS with full loss of keys and I can say this function does not work! You will lose money!
Maybe with OLD mercedes it working?
I did it without problems with the help of Mercedes Instrument!
In this case, I bought only one token for $ 26.6!
Best tool - Mercedes Instument !


hi
i doit around 20-30 w204 and w207 lost all key from 2008 to 2012 year all work 100%!
same time need acoustik not 1 time but 2 or 3
if you dont like vvdi mb bga you dont used
it is you problem
but for me VVDI MB BGA the best tools
and i have all VVDI,
and verry happy

[badenaleks]

Did you do part no:A207 905 72 01 and A207 905 30 00 ?

[rola1971]

Did you do part no:A207 905 72 01 and A207 905 30 00 ?

ok
i come back to workshop and check

[badenaleks]

I have both devices and I have something to compare with! I re-interpreted the errors I noticed when working with VVDI. As for me, I do not care. If I can not do it, I take it and do it with the device MB Instrument.
For VVDI, I just have free tokens, but VVDI does only half of the claimed! MB tool does more but you need to add tokens! But I'm not worried, but here

[obeids]

I have both devices and I have something to compare with! I re-interpreted the errors I noticed when working with VVDI. As for me, I do not care. If I can not do it, I take it and do it with the device MB Instrument.
For VVDI, I just have free tokens, but VVDI does only half of the claimed! MB tool does more but you need to add tokens! But I'm not worried, but here


If you don't like your VVDI then post it to me :) I will pay the postage to help you relief from it.

[badenaleks]

And what else should you send?

[badenaleks]

I'm not saying that VVDI is a bad device, there simply are problems when working with the device, and developers do not rush to correct these problems!
1. NEC57 in the new version you can lose data from key!
2. Some times does not collect data or does not find the password W204 W207 W212 if all keys are lost!
3. Does not always calculate the password of the dealer, although the developer promised that this will work, but still does not work!
4. The unlocking of NEC ELV needs to know how long, maybe a year or more!

[autoTkey]

I'm not saying that VVDI is a bad device, there simply are problems when working with the device, and developers do not rush to correct these problems!
1. NEC57 in the new version you can lose data from key!
2. Some times does not collect data or does not find the password W204 W207 W212 if all keys are lost!
3. Does not always calculate the password of the dealer, although the developer promised that this will work, but still does not work!
4. The unlocking of NEC ELV needs to know how long, maybe a year or more!

I've not tested 3 and 4 but your 1 and 2 problems have not happened with me.

[vageric]

i know that dealer password can be calculated for about 80% stated in manual.
and i thought that it was possible to unlock NEC ELV allready.
someone correct me if im wrong!

[Frankcar]

85 % hardware china not have good quality and more problems for quality hardware.

[rola1971]

85 % hardware china not have good quality and more problems for quality hardware.

if dont like vvdi mb bga buy nec57 for12.000usd

[vageric]

nec57 is a very good tool.
same software as MI (Mercedes Instrument).
they (MI & nec57 developers) are working together.

[Neh]

hey, i was working on an e class 2014 (350 to be more specific)
i was trying to ADD A KEY, i had one working key.
chassis is W212, i tried to "READ EIS DATA"
but i couldn't the i got a massage that sais - Failed Position : 00
anyone know's why or how to solve it?

[raints]

hey, i was working on an e class 2014 (350 to be more specific)
i was trying to ADD A KEY, i had one working key.
chassis is W212, i tried to "READ EIS DATA"
but i couldn't the i got a massage that sais - Failed Position : 00
anyone know's why or how to solve it?

I think it is a FBS 4 and this is not supported by VVDiMB

[MaxMin]

customer lost key and he want to disable this lost key in w164 ,can vvdi success disable key ?

[rola1971]

customer lost key and he want to disable this lost key in w164 ,can vvdi success disable key ?


yes it doit.100%

[MaxMin]

I lost 2hour for get pass via IR (i have one free token) :mad: ,several time i upload data and always failed and last time when i upload data software freeze and i lost one free token!! and i lost customer!!!!!!
very bad!!!

[auto techniek]

I lost 2hour for get pass via IR (i have one free token) :mad: ,several time i upload data and always failed and last time when i upload data software freeze and i lost one free token!! and i lost customer!!!!!!
very bad!!!

Which model?

Trust me the best and the quick way to do the job is to get password from the key. it is a few minutes job and don't waste you time with online password.

[MaxMin]

w164, for wath i have one free token ?? for me not problem unsolder nec and put in the adapter,why i must unsolder nec if i have one free token,and did you see wath is happen with member @lioncam here link (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/492206-VVDI-MB-BGA-TOOL/page177)
100% he send ML to diler for new key and now must waith 2week for new key from diler.
Not need me this headache!

[vageric]

I lost 2hour for get pass via IR (i have one free token) :mad: ,several time i upload data and always failed and last time when i upload data software freeze and i lost one free token!! and i lost customer!!!!!!
very bad!!!

if vvdi have take 1 token then the password is calculated.
try again and you will see the password.

[MaxMin]

pass show like vageric say,thank you.

[daxxer]

pass show like vageric say,thank you.

Yes....i not see any case, when VVDI user lost tokens without success service from server... :listen:

[Everythiinng]

Does VVDI support w245? And if not will it in the future?

[daxxer]

Does VVDI support w245? And if not will it in the future?

what do you want there for support ??? :D :D for W245 you almost not need any VVDI ;)

[CaioW]

Does VVDI support w245? And if not will it in the future?

W245 its the same W169 so when trying to get the password you need to select W169 and all will be good

=)

[Everythiinng]

what do you want there for support ??? :D :D for W245 you almost not need any VVDI ;)


Well i meant to say does VVDI MB BGA support of finding the password and reading EIS of w245? Because there is no option in the menu. And by saying u dont need VVDI then how to do it so? Regards

[vageric]

Well i meant to say does VVDI MB BGA support of finding the password and reading EIS of w245? Because there is no option in the menu. And by saying u dont need VVDI then how to do it so? Regards


if it's before the facelift model then use a programmer to read the mcu.
if it's the facelift model then use W169 (like CAioW sayed) through OBD or IR to find the password.
and yes vvdi can find the password from this car.

[giovani]

Hi.

CAR W204

SPECIAL KEY : DAF2F4E7611D48DA

PLEASE : ERASE PASS ??????

Thank you in advance.

[jonny r]

Hi.

CAR W204

SPECIAL KEY : DAF2F4E7611D48DA

PLEASE : ERASE PASS ??????

Thank you in advance.

Hello :)

Special Key: DAF2F4E7611D48DA
Erase Pass: C24B7C729508136B

Regards
Jonny

[giovani]

OK, jonny r

THANK YOU.

[Boggdan]

Hi,

W212

Erase pass please,

Special key: B5BDB0FC2DD4254E


Regrds

[jonny r]

Hi,

W212

Erase pass please,

Special key: B5BDB0FC2DD4254E


Regrds

Hello :)

Special Key: B5BDB0FC2DD4254E
Erase Pass: 2526236E2503A4D1

Regards
Jonny

[tippsy]

Hello there,

I need erase password please;

Special Key : 3AECA7EA82175B35

Thanks anyway.

[ficho]

Hello there,

I need erase password please;

Special Key : 3AECA7EA82175B35

Thanks anyway.
Hi,
From what is this Special Key ???
Regards Ficho

[tippsy]

Hi,
From what is this Special Key ???
Regards Ficho

Hi,
I don't know either. I lost my car keys and repair guy changed some parts and said "I tried almost all diagnostic tools but can't find password for this device with related special key". After that i saw this forum helps people when need erase password. So I wrote it, did I wrote it wrong? could it be wrong number?

[ficho]

Hi,
I don't know either. I lost my car keys and repair guy changed some parts and said "I tried almost all diagnostic tools but can't find password for this device with related special key". After that i saw this forum helps people when need erase password. So I wrote it, did I wrote it wrong? could it be wrong number?

Hi,
I think that the requested hash isnt a valid sonderhash
I can find hash - 1 but not erase hash as all the other sonderhash services
Regards ficho


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[jonny r]

Hi,
I don't know either. I lost my car keys and repair guy changed some parts and said "I tried almost all diagnostic tools but can't find password for this device with related special key". After that i saw this forum helps people when need erase password. So I wrote it, did I wrote it wrong? could it be wrong number?

Hello :)

Yes, i agree 100% with Ficho, this is definitely not a valid Sonder Hash. I will try to explain a little, without getting too technical.. Sonder hash must meet criteria - 101 (-0x65) from challenge Special key.. in this case, the Special Key (challenge Hash) has only been passed to hash function twice (0x2) Therefore making it impossible to calculate a -101 Hash for it, because any hashes previous to minus two (-0x2) turns do not exist... Here are the results from this Challenge:

Special Key: 3AECA7EA82175B35
- 0x01 Hash: 3091BDACE0AF5D6E
-0x02 Hash: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

This means that the hash " 3091BDACE0AF5D6E " has been created (Pushed through the hash function) from an arbitrary number (arbitrary 8 bytes), not a hash.....

And therefore a valid -101 (0x65) hash for this challenge will not exist....

Regards
Jonny

[duplikeytor]

W215 545 06 08 Lost Keys and can't read the 4J74Y on board using SMOK. I also removed the CHIp and used XPROG Adaptor.

SMOK unsecures the chip successfully and then says Error Read.

XPROG Adaptor reading and then states VCC PIN OVERLOAD and can't read it.

Tried getting password via IR but can't read it.

See attached board.

441586

What is suggested here?

I used the following diagram from SMOK

441587

Can VVDI Prog read this chip on board?

[badenaleks]

Server not good working two days. Somebody know what happened ?

[rola1971]

Server not good working two days. Somebody know what happened ?

hi
but it work.i doit keys for 4 cars for 2 days

[vageric]

W215 545 06 08 Lost Keys and can't read the 4J74Y on board using SMOK. I also removed the CHIp and used XPROG Adaptor.

SMOK unsecures the chip successfully and then says Error Read.

XPROG Adaptor reading and then states VCC PIN OVERLOAD and can't read it.

Tried getting password via IR but can't read it.

See attached board.

441586

What is suggested here?

I used the following diagram from SMOK

441587

Can VVDI Prog read this chip on board?

remove the mcu and read it with a programmer.

[alexxxb0450]

remove the mcu and read it with a programmer.
etl908 for example

[FIRAS72]

Hi

CAR W204

SPECIAL KEY : 59A085D285D7D7EC
PLEASE : ERASE PASS

Thank you in advance.

[vageric]

Hi

CAR W204

SPECIAL KEY : 59A085D285D7D7EC
PLEASE : ERASE PASS

Thank you in advance.


vvdi cant get eraese pass?

[FIRAS72]

vvdi cant get eraese pass?

yes vvdi cant get eraese pass

[FIRAS72]

Hi

CAR W204

SPECIAL KEY : 59A085D285D7D7EC

key pass :EFEB7ACAB808679D

PLEASE : ERASE PASS
Thank you in advance.

[jonny r]

Hi

CAR W204

SPECIAL KEY : 59A085D285D7D7EC

key pass :EFEB7ACAB808679D

PLEASE : ERASE PASS
Thank you in advance.

Hello :)

Special Key: 59A085D285D7D7EC
Erase Pass: D2644E4678DD3996

Regards
Jonny

[duplikeytor]

remove the mcu and read it with a programmer.


I did that and used clone xprogm which has been my go to tool to read 1D69J, but this is the second time when trying to read 4J74Y, message comes up Vcc pin overload. Could this be a problem with the xprog?

[Boggdan]

Hi,

W639 ecu.

Erase Pass please

Special key: 79ECDE5F98A2F43E

Regards.

[obeids]

Ok Guys......

So seems the VVDI guys got a bug that wasn't there before.
I did a few V57 Read passwords before and worked. Then came the newer update....... Today I tried and it gives some error then ERROR -02. It has Killed the NEC of the key. Fortunately it was W211 so it was quick to remove EIS and read using VVDI prog then generate new keys and write again. I had to use another NEC because now VVDI cannot read this NEC chip. I tried the Erase function but it shows 50% then failed.
This problem surely wasn't experienced before on VVDI. They need to sort it because it used to work perfect because I used it few times and worked nicely.

[jonny r]

Hi,

W639 ecu.

Erase Pass please

Special key: 79ECDE5F98A2F43E

Regards.

Hello :)


Special Key: 79ECDE5F98A2F43E
Erase Pass: 588EA962C8E4E1F4

Regards
Jonny

[andresfn18]

Hi, please erase password W204

Special key: A922F6349AA269FC

Erase password :

[AutoKeyGuy]

Hi mate,

Did you take any pictures of the session? also can you please upload the log for that session?


Ok Guys......

So seems the VVDI guys got a bug that wasn't there before.
I did a few V57 Read passwords before and worked. Then came the newer update....... Today I tried and it gives some error then ERROR -02. It has Killed the NEC of the key. Fortunately it was W211 so it was quick to remove EIS and read using VVDI prog then generate new keys and write again. I had to use another NEC because now VVDI cannot read this NEC chip. I tried the Erase function but it shows 50% then failed.
This problem surely wasn't experienced before on VVDI. They need to sort it because it used to work perfect because I used it few times and worked nicely.

[ficho]

Hi, please erase password W204

Special key: A922F6349AA269FC

Erase password :
HI,

Special Key: A922F6349AA269FC
Erase Pass: BA124C84FD21527E

regards ficho

[andresfn18]

Thank you my friend, VVDI doesn't give me erase password

HI,

Special Key: A922F6349AA269FC
Erase Pass: BA124C84FD21527E

regards ficho

[ficho]

Thank you my friend, VVDI doesn't give me erase password
HI,
Were you polite ???, Did you say please :)
Regards Ficho

[vageric]

i noticed that sinds last update when you have ESL locked and you try to unlock it with vvdibga
you damage your dump.
you get the p/n and s/n scrambled and sometimes also some keys hashes are 0000000000000000.
also the TP cleared stay ticked and you can't personalize/activate ESL to EZS.
someone have a work around for this problem/bug?

[Ringo24]

Hi,
Please
Erase Pass:
Special Key: F560BAA0160B6163

Regards

[duplikeytor]

W215 545 06 08 Lost Keys and can't read the 4J74Y on board using SMOK. I also removed the CHIp and used XPROG Adaptor.

SMOK unsecures the chip successfully and then says Error Read.

XPROG Adaptor reading and then states VCC PIN OVERLOAD and can't read it.

Tried getting password via IR but can't read it.

See attached board.

441586

What is suggested here?

I used the following diagram from SMOK

441587

Can VVDI Prog read this chip on board?

I was finally able to read it successfully with SMOK. The wiring diagram from SMOK is for a different version. The reset wire (Blue) should be on pin 3 of the MCU and everything else is the same as the wiring diagram from SMOK.

Hope it helps others.

[daxxer]

I was finally able to read it successfully with SMOK. The wiring diagram from SMOK is for a different version. The reset wire (Blue) should be on pin 3 of the MCU and everything else is the same as the wiring diagram from SMOK.

Hope it helps others.

yes, there are 2 different versions of PCB and then 2 different wiring soldering points...both type are described with images in VVDI Prog :listen: when you have... ;)

[ficho]

Hi,
Please
Erase Pass:
Special Key: F560BAA0160B6163

Regards
HI,

Special Key: F560BAA0160B6163
erase pass: DDE8702E1BF30C9C

Regards Ficho

[Ringo24]

HI,

Special Key: F560BAA0160B6163
erase pass: DDE8702E1BF30C9C

Regards Ficho


Thank you Ficho

[duplikeytor]

I was finally able to read it successfully with SMOK. The wiring diagram from SMOK is for a different version. The reset wire (Blue) should be on pin 3 of the MCU and everything else is the same as the wiring diagram from SMOK.

Hope it helps others.

When I try to read Flash with SMOK, it says MCU not answer, I guess SMOK can't read the FLASH on this. I need to get me an ETL908

Anyways was able to create keys using the EEPROM and VVDI MB.

[duplikeytor]

latest version 2.1.7 does not allow me to write VIN via OBD to 204 EMulator, states fail. It's renewed per Daxxer instructions, but for some reason it's not writing VIN in.

I can't proceed without writing VIN into ESL.

Bug???

[vageric]

looks like the latest update have some bugs in ti.
meself dont do any unlock ESL no more with vvdibga because it have damage 4 ESL in a row
and can't personalize/activate to ezs.

[rola1971]

latest version 2.1.7 does not allow me to write VIN via OBD to 204 EMulator, states fail. It's renewed per Daxxer instructions, but for some reason it's not writing VIN in.

I can't proceed without writing VIN into ESL.

Bug???

hi
yes for me to same ,dont write vin, but all work fine
dont need vin
try good luck

[CarCity]

Hello friends
Why not here very time that new updates
Does that mean that VVDI-MB update is stopped?
Or Xhorse of trouble?


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[Boggdan]

Hi,

What's going on with Samic?
He helped much in the forum.

[auto techniek]

This is the risc when you buy a chinese product.

They are now promoting a new product. VVDI Key tool.

Without this forum there is no change to get helped.