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Brat
16th April, 2018, 11:57 AM
can vvdi start and finish job replace (used) CVT 722.8 in w169? virgin>adapt>person... or not possible w/o SCN ?
Enya01022017
16th April, 2018, 12:44 PM
can vvdi start and finish job replace (used) CVT 722.8 in w169? virgin>adapt>person... or not possible w/o SCN ?
yes it can, very easy
Enya01022017
16th April, 2018, 12:45 PM
can vvdi start and finish job replace (used) CVT 722.8 in w169? virgin>adapt>person... or not possible w/o SCN ?
just got to use star to programme, no scn coding required
Enya01022017
16th April, 2018, 12:47 PM
If you have a working key juste carry out coding with DAS software everything will ok
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Hi i dont have origanal key
vasa
16th April, 2018, 02:03 PM
Mercedes W211 hi is possible so server calculetin wrong password after data asculation. ........How is good on step 3 insert working key in EIS an wait 30 seconds if elv unlock press OK I Press minimal 80 NO ELV not unlock after remove key ignition lock on on second try ELV unlock .....after upload data . Calulatiion password but new key not work password muss bad . Is problem on calculating or need wait to open ELV and press no 80th 100tn or tasusen.....
rola1971
16th April, 2018, 02:43 PM
Mercedes W211 hi is possible so server calculetin wrong password after data asculation. ........How is good on step 3 insert working key in EIS an wait 30 seconds if elv unlock press OK I Press minimal 80 NO ELV not unlock after remove key ignition lock on on second try ELV unlock .....after upload data . Calulatiion password but new key not work password muss bad . Is problem on calculating or need wait to open ELV and press no 80th 100tn or tasusen.....
what?
data asxcution for w211?
it is joke?
for w211 rean mc immo data and pasword
ficho
16th April, 2018, 03:19 PM
Mercedes W211 hi is possible so server calculetin wrong password after data asculation. ........How is good on step 3 insert working key in EIS an wait 30 seconds if elv unlock press OK I Press minimal 80 NO ELV not unlock after remove key ignition lock on on second try ELV unlock .....after upload data . Calulatiion password but new key not work password muss bad . Is problem on calculating or need wait to open ELV and press no 80th 100tn or tasusen.....
HI,
First of all read your post and try to understand your self what you are asking for ???
Data acquisition you have done to find EZS/key password (if you have found it then it is ok, you need this to renew ezs adap new esl (w204..)etc...)? what has to do this now with ElV/ESL ???, do you want to unlock esl/evl ?
ELV/ESL will unlock with proper hash sent to it, this can be done via EZS/EIS or some software, for locking is something else sneeze and it will lock.
erase pass (dealer pass) is yet something else, so please be a little bit more specific so someone could try to help.
regards ficho
vasa
16th April, 2018, 08:25 PM
sorry for my englisch automatic translation google gott ..now i write somewhat understand have mercedes W211 with working V51 key and need spare key I read ezs data OBD/IR and now need key password .
IR read password not work trying on 10 cars . Go to calculating password option . step 1 step 2 step 3 OK after 5 min times go to step 4 . insert working key in ignition and wait 30s ok . Now jump new windows
if ELV open pressOK if NOT press No.......but ELV not open after press NO 1x 100x 200x maybe i can tuch NO forrewer. I remove key from ignition and again insert to ignition . After 3-5 times press NO ELV automatic open.Now step 5 and 6 upload Data acquisition a then Query result . OLE have key password . Prepare key file and write to key......... problem is key not working.!!!!!
Question it is possible that the calculation of the password is wrong? or server prepare key is wrong? Or is problem on step 4 in caclulating Data acquisition..
This is not first time so have problem on step 4. but always on W211
ficho
16th April, 2018, 08:57 PM
sorry for my englisch automatic translation google gott ..now i write somewhat understand have mercedes W211 with working V51 key and need spare key I read ezs data OBD/IR and now need key password .
IR read password not work trying on 10 cars . Go to calculating password option . step 1 step 2 step 3 OK after 5 min times go to step 4 . insert working key in ignition and wait 30s ok . Now jump new windows
if ELV open pressOK if NOT press No.......but ELV not open after press NO 1x 100x 200x maybe i can tuch NO forrewer. I remove key from ignition and again insert to ignition . After 3-5 times press NO ELV automatic open.Now step 5 and 6 upload Data acquisition a then Query result . OLE have key password . Prepare key file and write to key......... problem is key not working.!!!!!
Question it is possible that the calculation of the password is wrong? or server prepare key is wrong? Or is problem on step 4 in caclulating Data acquisition..
This is not first time so have problem on step 4. but always on W211
HI,
Do you have option to test password on ezs and/or working key ????, if you have received password from server then you should be ok !!!
The password is checked to fulfill some criteria before they provide it.
The problem could be your esl, read content and maybe try to make it virgin then adapt it.
read out esl and and ezs content and upload to see them.
I could take a look at your data and try to see what's you problem.
Also write here what tool you are using.
One more thing, that did elv unlock stuff after 30s you can always press yes it did unlock, this means key ezs have synchronized.
regards ficho
WRX 14
16th April, 2018, 09:59 PM
Its a joke return to seller.
I think hugecamount was sold in ali. You think those will take them back? In some dreams maybe
Then buy from reputable sellers.... then if key happens to develops a fault then you can return to seller no problem.
If you want to buy from seller on Ali with little or no customer service to save $0.50 or something then you take that risk of not being able to exchange.
Why do you think its a joke returning faulty goods to the seller you purchased from? Isn't this what would normally happen if a product develops a fault?
wissamshaat
16th April, 2018, 10:32 PM
we did good buying from our good freind shipping from europ and better prices than china :D
perfido
17th April, 2018, 04:58 AM
for some reason that I do not know the server can not calculate the password, someone can help with that please?
upload .dat is a w207 all key lost
thanks in advanced
daxxer
17th April, 2018, 05:43 AM
for some reason that I do not know the server can not calculate the password, someone can help with that please?
upload .dat is a w207 all key lost
thanks in advanced
server cannot calculate ??? why not ? :-)
vasa
17th April, 2018, 07:28 AM
HI,
Do you have option to test password on ezs and/or working key ????, if you have received password from server then you should be ok !!!
The password is checked to fulfill some criteria before they provide it.
The problem could be your esl, read content and maybe try to make it virgin then adapt it.
read out esl and and ezs content and upload to see them.
I could take a look at your data and try to see what's you problem.
Also write here what tool you are using.
One more thing, that did elv unlock stuff after 30s you can always press yes it did unlock, this means key ezs have synchronized.
regards ficho
hi working key normal work but spare key nothing if is generated password ok maybe key was but calculating . I remove EZS and read Motorola and post result thanks
drugowaz
17th April, 2018, 08:24 AM
What motorola you will read on w207
vasa
18th April, 2018, 01:07 PM
Do not know anyone where to buy ir keys to old w208 w210 year 1997 thank you BE keys not work red diod stey light and for restart need remove battery from key. thanks for reply.
edit post BE key only problem on ezs w208 with 0d69j
fytfh
18th April, 2018, 01:10 PM
do not know anyone where to buy ir keys to old w208 w210 year 1997 thank you BGA keys not work
BGA key not work but BE key work good
vikx
19th April, 2018, 06:57 AM
[QUOTE = jonny r; 3260722] Здравствуйте,
Пожалуйста, напишите имя устройства, с которым вы читаете специальный ключ. Потому что этот специальный ключ инвертировал байты, поэтому его можно было прочитать с помощью Mercedes Instrument или KeyLess Prog.
Во всяком случае, вот ваш Erase Pass
Не
520920
забывайте обращать байты ...
С уважением [/ QUOTE]
Hello, the device I read Special Key with is VVDI MB. thanks a lot for your assistance
obeids
20th April, 2018, 05:40 AM
The VVDI BE Keys new version seem to have a problem. They read, erase and program fine on the VVDI2. I can even change frequency by IR and ir works.
Problem is once programmed and you put into the EIS then the key doesn't get activated. Light comes on and stays on for 2 or 3 seconds then off.
I tried putting it in and out so many times and when you read key on VVDI it still shows UNUSED.
I then took my other BE keys which I use and write the file to it and put into the EIS and it immediately unlocked and worked.
I tried on 2 different EIS unit. W169 and W211.
I wonder if there is a solution to these keys.....
whiskeyman
20th April, 2018, 09:09 AM
recommended this tool to a friend
hes had tool over a week and cant use as he has no tokens
why not add his tokens?
WRX 14
20th April, 2018, 09:15 AM
recommended this tool to a friend
hes had tool over a week and cant use as he has no tokens
why not add his tokens?
Do you mean the free token each day? I may be wrong here, but i thought that free token was only given when you have xc mini cutting machine.
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WRX 14
20th April, 2018, 09:27 AM
Do you mean the free token each day? I may be wrong here, but i thought that free token was only given when you have xc mini cutting machine.
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Another thing, has your friend updated to the latest software / firmware?
Do you know of the seller had registered the device serial number? I’m sure my seller emt me an email to say they had preregistered my tool before shipping so i could ie it right away when i receive it.
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giovani
24th April, 2018, 01:24 AM
can vvdi start and finish job replace (used) CVT 722.8 in w169? virgin>adapt>person... or not possible w/o SCN ?
Hi.
I made several unsuccessful attempts, I do not find it easy.
Have you been successful in renewing 722.8?
Frankcar
24th April, 2018, 07:07 PM
Please help me for erase pass for Emulator ESL
Special key: 4DF5FCC114BB74A6
Thanks
Solved , Thanks friend lioncam (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/474710-lioncam)
lioncam
24th April, 2018, 07:20 PM
Please help me for erase pass for Emulator ESL
Special key: 4DF5FCC114BB74A6
Emergency please
ThanksHummmmm, it is Virgin !! You Can just program.
Thks.
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daxxer
24th April, 2018, 07:27 PM
Please help me for erase pass for Emulator ESL
Special key: 4DF5FCC114BB74A6
Emergency please
Thanks
your first emulator in your live ??? :D :D :D
why need erase pass for emulator ???? are sure ? ;)
Frankcar
24th April, 2018, 09:35 PM
Sorry friends . I had forgot metod.
With your help "vergin status" I remembered metod and program without problem done.
Car was in the hightway and very cold air
obdsystems
25th April, 2018, 05:56 PM
Thought give these a try and message i got 1st use on writing ....
"can not use anymore need to exchange."
Exchange my bum i just bought it!! I'm not near car so unable to test, but doesn't look good
rojhat
25th April, 2018, 07:52 PM
Thought give these a try and message i got 1st use on writing ....
"can not use anymore need to exchange."
Exchange my bum i just bought it!! I'm not near car so unable to test, but doesn't look goodHi where are you buy this be key xhorse ? Have buy today i hope not same seller :)
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madaxe
25th April, 2018, 09:58 PM
I bought some from keyprint in last week, and all ok so far. Have done 5, no problems.
gilahish
27th April, 2018, 05:47 PM
Hi, had couple of w164 in last few weeks i have problem with. first one 09 ml called me to say that the key can start the car but remote stopped working, i gave him a new key and he called a week after with the same problem. second one 2010 GL, called after few weeks to say that the remote stopped working and the key sometimes can start and sometimes can't. i use be keys, i make a lot of them and didnt get a callbacks so far, it seems like it only has a problem with the w164, when i check the key its functioning and has a signal but from some reason the cars cant get it. any idea?
drugowaz
27th April, 2018, 06:21 PM
Use ori key
gilahish
27th April, 2018, 06:29 PM
Use ori key
You didnt really read the question right?
lalaina74
27th April, 2018, 06:37 PM
Hi, had couple of w164 in last few weeks i have problem with. first one 09 ml called me to say that the key can start the car but remote stopped working, i gave him a new key and he called a week after with the same problem. second one 2010 GL, called after few weeks to say that the remote stopped working and the key sometimes can start and sometimes can't. i use be keys, i make a lot of them and didnt get a callbacks so far, it seems like it only has a problem with the w164, when i check the key its functioning and has a signal but from some reason the cars cant get it. any idea?You use the be pro xhorse? I have the same issue too.
The xhorse improved version of be key seem to have the same issue
I will order some to check if their new stock solve this
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Brat
27th April, 2018, 07:18 PM
Hi.
I made several unsuccessful attempts, I do not find it easy.
Have you been successful in renewing 722.8?
i not try,i only ask it is can finish job.
lalaina74
28th April, 2018, 11:18 AM
Hello to all
Please erase pass for an ISM
Special key :75BE5E9116EB5360
best regards
Lalaina
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daxxer
28th April, 2018, 04:23 PM
Hello to all
Please erase pass for an ISM
Special key :75BE5E9116EB5360
best regards
Lalaina
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erase pass: 90E767ED8BD75F3B :listen:
daxxer
28th April, 2018, 04:25 PM
Hi, had couple of w164 in last few weeks i have problem with. first one 09 ml called me to say that the key can start the car but remote stopped working, i gave him a new key and he called a week after with the same problem. second one 2010 GL, called after few weeks to say that the remote stopped working and the key sometimes can start and sometimes can't. i use be keys, i make a lot of them and didnt get a callbacks so far, it seems like it only has a problem with the w164, when i check the key its functioning and has a signal but from some reason the cars cant get it. any idea?
strange what you get for issue.....when use other BE keys like KYDZ or other producer, thats standard when stop work after week or not work properly on some car models...:(
but xhorse with his new benz key improve and repair almost all this known fault of others BE keys versions ;)
i self test new xhorse pcb on W164 and work very well... ;) no any issue. :listen:
bersch8688
28th April, 2018, 04:42 PM
I buy normal BE Keys and my clients have never problem!
Why need buy Xhorse Keys!?
Obdexpress.co.uk order all my Keys and work all without problem!
ivanrpm
28th April, 2018, 07:41 PM
Hi, last update of MB VVDI is given error with v57 key, erase data when try to read password, even not let me write it by ir.
Does someone experience the same??
Many thanks
Regards
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trinicolin
30th April, 2018, 11:58 AM
Hi Guys, can anyone tell me the system on a 2014 Mercedes Benz GLA 180
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gttuning
30th April, 2018, 01:01 PM
Hi Guys, can anyone tell me the system on a 2014 Mercedes Benz GLA 180
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trinicolin
30th April, 2018, 01:02 PM
Fbs4
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Enya01022017
3rd May, 2018, 01:10 PM
Hi all
Does anybody know how to programme fbs4 keys yet or if there is a machine that can do it yet
CarCity
3rd May, 2018, 01:20 PM
Hi all
Does anybody know how to programme fbs4 keys yet or if there is a machine that can do it yet
This is currently only possible in Mercedes dealerships ....
gurmk
4th May, 2018, 10:52 PM
I have the same problem, can't read a working key either
gurmk
4th May, 2018, 10:57 PM
Hi, last update of MB VVDI is given error with v57 key, erase data when try to read password, even not let me write it by ir.
Does someone experience the same??
Many thanks
Regards
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I have the same problem, can't read a working key either.
Samic
5th May, 2018, 07:09 AM
I have the same problem, can't read a working key either.
friend, you use standard adapter or optional NEC key adapter?
please send me the log file, we can check and fix the key password.
rojhat
5th May, 2018, 01:51 PM
Hi 4.00 have some realy bug added with this update . Have more 5 ezs w209 211 all have backup and read with ir on 3.85 soft or lower and now just 2 connect and reconized on 4.00 . Other probleme with ecu delphi crd3 activation and on old w203 with lower version with ir pass read and save ok now failed after 30% more test and same error no password found or failed . Please correct this and update this little problem
Br
friend, you use standard adapter or optional NEC key adapter?
please send me the log file, we can check and fix the key password.
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bersch8688
7th May, 2018, 06:23 AM
Found 2x NEC Virgin to Renew ESL for 60€
A2c-52724 A2C-52724 sop 2 stücke
http://s.aliexpress.com/qaANvmYn?fromSns=Copy to Clipboard
60€ for 2 NEC!
Better price than 1 Emulator ;-)
vageric
7th May, 2018, 07:37 AM
Found 2x NEC Virgin to Renew ESL for 60€
A2c-52724 A2C-52724 sop 2 stücke
http://s.aliexpress.com/qaANvmYn?fromSns=Copy to Clipboard
60€ for 2 NEC!
Better price than 1 Emulator ;-)
these NEC'S are shit!.
because they have no part # and no serial # in them.
and you cant put vin # from car inside.
but on a fair notice its better then emulators.
Samic
7th May, 2018, 08:46 AM
Hi 4.00 have some realy bug added with this update . Have more 5 ezs w209 211 all have backup and read with ir on 3.85 soft or lower and now just 2 connect and reconized on 4.00 . Other probleme with ecu delphi crd3 activation and on old w203 with lower version with ir pass read and save ok now failed after 30% more test and same error no password found or failed . Please correct this and update this little problem
Br
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about W209 211 could you find the proper log file, we will check first.
about ECU function its the same ECU crd3 as you tested before, new version failed?
Brat
7th May, 2018, 03:52 PM
friend, this version key with problem(other version work ok)as the window displayed. we already found the caused reason and improved.
for current problem PCB please contact with your dealer to send back,we will replace new PCB to customer.
also will give extra tokens for customer who got this problem PCB, check the detail with your dealer.
any problem let me know, i will try my best to help.
Samic,seller exchenge my key and he send me new key and again same story!! "current key can not use any more..."
i thing is not honestly from seller and xhorse team sell untested key! 2x i receivet key with same fault!
i lost too much customer and blame with customer!
rojhat
7th May, 2018, 04:33 PM
Samic,seller exchenge my key and he send me new key and again same story!! "current key can not use any more..."
i thing is not honestly from seller and xhorse team sell untested key! 2x i receivet key with same fault!
i lost too much customer and blame with customer!Hi on my new key have 04 2018 . lazer whriting have you same in your pcb ?
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rola1971
7th May, 2018, 04:37 PM
Samic,seller exchenge my key and he send me new key and again same story!! "current key can not use any more..."
i thing is not honestly from seller and xhorse team sell untested key! 2x i receivet key with same fault!
i lost too much customer and blame with customer!
if dont like xhorse mb key buy from next seler what problem?
Brat
7th May, 2018, 04:53 PM
if dont like xhorse mb key buy from next seler what problem?
friend i need working key. Time is monay! Now i mast again send key in china. Ohhh yes, China is 2-3 km from my house.
daxxer
7th May, 2018, 06:52 PM
Samic,seller exchenge my key and he send me new key and again same story!! "current key can not use any more..."
i thing is not honestly from seller and xhorse team sell untested key! 2x i receivet key with same fault!
i lost too much customer and blame with customer!
thats very bad luck, when you get again bad keys, i think the seller did the fault...or maybe not fault ? :listen: :(
next time buy only from trusthworthy seller....or from seller, who are here for you everytime and not only when will sell to you bad keys... :(
bersch8688
8th May, 2018, 05:48 AM
I buy all my Key's from obdexpress.co.uk and all work fine
My Client have the Keys few Months and never call me with any problem
Brat
8th May, 2018, 07:51 AM
Hi on my new key have 04 2018 . lazer whriting have you same in your pcb ?
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my is 2018.02.02
p.s.
daxxer clear inbox.
rola1971
8th May, 2018, 08:15 AM
i buy in autokeys.us
around 50 mb keys
any problem.
1 time i buy in onlyda.com and from 10 keys 2 dont work but seller change and any problem i happy
madaxe
8th May, 2018, 09:03 AM
How can you be happy having to return keys ? They should test them before they go out. I bought too many mb keys from onlyda to not work. what they say is sorry, the quality is not best at the moment, try the 2 battery keys.
I would be happy to pay more to have tested working keys. I really dont want to have to send anything back, or get call from customer saying key stopped working, and when you read key half the data is missing.
Same problems with autokeys.us. MB key quality from china is shockingly bad at the moment.
I'm hoping at least the latest batch of boards from vvdi work, so I can reuse the shells from all the rubbish chinese keys, but VVDI still having some problems. Last week generated key to 2008 SLK. sync in car. Key turns once. Key does not turn again. Key does not have battery inside it, but that should not matter. Tried 30+ times to insert, no turn again. Generated another key with battery in the key, and this one works first time, and continues to work. Maybe one off I thought.
2 days later same thing happened on Eclass 2008. Without battery in the key, the key syncs once, and then does not turn again. Generate again on same board, put battery inside key, and key syncs and works fine.
daxxer
8th May, 2018, 09:54 AM
my is 2018.02.02
p.s.
daxxer clear inbox.
inbox cleared....thx for info ;)
dd1
9th May, 2018, 02:24 AM
Hi everyone, i did a mbz ME9.7, Renew, the car started no problems. i cant get to change the VIN to the car's. Any idea how and why not? thnx in advance
mercis
9th May, 2018, 04:01 AM
you can vin change bevor activate ecu
dd1
9th May, 2018, 04:07 AM
thank you, before activate you mean by DAS......
gurmk
9th May, 2018, 03:00 PM
friend, you use standard adapter or optional NEC key adapter?
please send me the log file, we can check and fix the key password.
Sorry for the late reply. I can't read working key via IR in the VVDI MB BGA TOOL. Programmed 2 different new BGA keys and they don't work.
Now I get reading failed in the Tool via IR.
lush29
9th May, 2018, 03:46 PM
hello all,
is vvdi mb tool renew cr3.23,3.2l diesel ecu?
without adaptors?
or do i need the adapterts to renew the ecu?
thanks
rojhat
9th May, 2018, 06:07 PM
hello all,
is vvdi mb tool renew cr3.23,3.2l diesel ecu?
without adaptors?
or do i need the adapterts to renew the ecu?
thanksHi just need out of car and can h can l maybe kline and + - same pinout on avdi help manuel . Or other cmd......
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daxxer
9th May, 2018, 07:06 PM
Sorry for the late reply. I can't read working key via IR in the VVDI MB BGA TOOL. Programmed 2 different new BGA keys and they don't work.
Now I get reading failed in the Tool via IR.
can you show keys what you programmed ? from where you bought it ?
trinicolin
9th May, 2018, 07:23 PM
Hi guys I am trying to adapt ESL on 204 but unable to un-check the boxes. I need you advice.
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drugowaz
9th May, 2018, 07:30 PM
Try push alow user.
trinicolin
9th May, 2018, 08:25 PM
Try push alow user.No luck with this also.
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drugowaz
9th May, 2018, 09:05 PM
U want to untick those over "personalised" option? Those 3 nit possible untick i think.
lush29
9th May, 2018, 09:09 PM
Hi just need out of car and can h can l maybe kline and + - same pinout on avdi help manuel . Or other cmd......
Envoyé de mon SM-G935F en utilisant TapatalkI used cmd pinout and no comm with ecu.
On car ecu is ok,
Will try again in the morning.
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gurmk
9th May, 2018, 09:30 PM
can you show keys what you programmed ? from where you bought it ?
I got them from www.honrow.com (http://www.honrow.com)
rojhat
9th May, 2018, 09:45 PM
I used cmd pinout and no comm with ecu.
On car ecu is ok,
Will try again in the morning.
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lush29
9th May, 2018, 10:15 PM
Wait after send yiu pinout for your ecu put 120 ohm resistor on can .
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Will try with rezistor
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rojhat
9th May, 2018, 11:27 PM
I never put the resistor, just seen that on Avdi manual.
Will try with rezistor
Sent from my SM-G950F using TapatalkFor resistor it my expérience maybe whrited on manuel :) have breakbox with resistor switche... terminal 15 30 .... just for delphi ecu w204 tested yesterday needed 120 resistor betwen can . Test and report .
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wissamshaat
10th May, 2018, 12:07 AM
I got them from www.honrow.com (http://www.honrow.com)
those keys are shit...
use xhorse keys not like original but best in market now
alexxxb0450
10th May, 2018, 06:28 AM
those keys are shit...
use xhorse keys not like original but best in market now
why xhorse keys are best?
because you cant write them
because you cant broke them they are alredy broken
i order xhorse keys twice at xhorse.com and they send me shit
daxxer
10th May, 2018, 07:17 AM
why xhorse keys are best?
because you cant write them
because you cant broke them they are alredy broken
i order xhorse keys twice at xhorse.com and they send me shit
why complaining about something ??? can you explain pls how you order twice keys on www.xhorse.com (http://www.xhorse.com) ??? :D :D :D :D im suspicious about this website :listen:
btw first need to be sure, when you sure bought keys and when you bought REAL latest xhorse keys and not some other shit....
what i know from my experince and experiences of others users who REAL bought it, they are very happy with this new xhorse keys and are very surprised how it works ;)
alexxxb0450
10th May, 2018, 07:29 PM
sorry at vvdishop.com
daxxer
10th May, 2018, 08:36 PM
I got them from www.honrow.com (http://www.honrow.com)
first need to say important things !
1. this are not any BGA keys :D
2. this keys have nothing to do with Xhorse
3. this KYDZ are very bad keys, i have maybe 40 of them yet....do you want to send it for free ?? ;) i will not use it anymore...bcs will not get back after week angry customers with non working key :(
4. lot of KYDZ stop work very soon after you use it...
5. buy real latest new Xhorse keys and you will be sure very happy how it work ;) :listen:
thebigk
10th May, 2018, 10:32 PM
I am trying to make key for 2011 w906 sprinter, but I can't find key blanks, anyone have source or suggestion?
Thanks
PierreTheron
10th May, 2018, 10:55 PM
first need to say important things !
1. this are not any BGA keys :D
2. this keys have nothing to do with Xhorse
3. this KYDZ are very bad keys, i have maybe 40 of them yet....do you want to send it for free ?? ;) i will not use it anymore...bcs will not get back after week angry customers with non working key :(
4. lot of KYDZ stop work very soon after you use it...
5. buy real latest new Xhorse keys and you will be sure very happy how it work ;) :listen:
I have trust in these new boards...
http://www.xhorsetool.com/wholesale/xhorse-vvdi-be-key-pro-improved-version.html
bluesky2010
11th May, 2018, 02:49 AM
Hello guys, When I read ISM by VVDI MB , it fails , says :( Read failed . position: 1) . Anyone experienced with this problem? I tried to read 3 ISM . all same result. I was reading it before ok (6 months ago). any suggestions? thanks
bluesky2010
11th May, 2018, 02:57 AM
Sorry guys , after i post this thread , i unplugged 12 volt from cable and read it .(obviously it doesn't connect with ism ). so connected again 12 volt and read ISM. like magic it reads ok. thanks
daxxer
11th May, 2018, 06:39 AM
Sorry guys , after i post this thread , i unplugged 12 volt from cable and read it .(obviously it doesn't connect with ism ). so connected again 12 volt and read ISM. like magic it reads ok. thanks
ohhh....operator fail :D :D
lush29
11th May, 2018, 07:15 PM
For resistor it my expérience maybe whrited on manuel :) have breakbox with resistor switche... terminal 15 30 .... just for delphi ecu w204 tested yesterday needed 120 resistor betwen can . Test and report .
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with rezistor all 100% perfect.
but now need to virginez the ism/esm,
how do i do that?
rola1971
11th May, 2018, 10:54 PM
with rezistor all 100% perfect.
but now need to virginez the ism/esm,
how do i do that?
read
read pasword
and virgines
what problem
lush29
12th May, 2018, 08:18 AM
read
read pasword
and virgines
what problemOn table or on the car?
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minomino
12th May, 2018, 04:23 PM
Hello
I need two token to calculate urgent data acquisition.
my id: MB01862892
with payment.
Thank you
or that someone can calculate me password
daxxer
12th May, 2018, 07:58 PM
Hello
I need two token to calculate urgent data acquisition.
my id: MB01862892
with payment.
Thank you
or that someone can calculate me password
only you with your unit can calculate it :listen:
HeXeN
13th May, 2018, 09:29 AM
can w202 add key be done by OBD?
drugowaz
13th May, 2018, 01:19 PM
No........
auto techniek
13th May, 2018, 07:50 PM
Hi
When the eis is dead, does remote controle of the key supposed tot work or not?
rola1971
13th May, 2018, 10:20 PM
On table or on the car?
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in table the best all job
rola1971
13th May, 2018, 10:21 PM
Hello
I need two token to calculate urgent data acquisition.
my id: MB01862892
with payment.
Thank you
or that someone can calculate me passwordyou need buy tokens
onlyone option
fytfh
17th May, 2018, 06:43 AM
vvdi 2 not possible to read xhorse elv simulator this is some bug or is normal write data sucessful but read not possible
daxxer
17th May, 2018, 07:52 AM
vvdi 2 not possible to read xhorse elv simulator this is some bug or is normal write data sucessful but read not possible
for what you need to read it ? :D :D
when work, then dont waste time with them :listen:
btw...VVDI2 sure can't read it success ;)
fytfh
17th May, 2018, 07:59 AM
for what you need to read it ? :D :D
when work, then dont waste time with them :listen:
btw...VVDI2 sure can't read it success ;)
sorry vvdi mb car is not here but think we will work if not work on test eis status we will see mech status ok but can status not ok i think but i see all ok
obeids
20th May, 2018, 09:45 AM
New VVDI keys are giving problem. They don't activate on EIS. Have tried about 3 or 4 vehicles and same problem. SAMIC said problem is in VVDI BGA Software. One key had activated on W202 EIS but after about 7 or 10 starts it failed and no response.
I think there is still some bugs on these VVDI keys which need to be fixed up. I have the newer boards as I have sent SAMIC also pictures. They are 2018 boards and not the older boards.....
bluesky2010
21st May, 2018, 01:12 PM
if eis dead remote dont work
Alexuko
21st May, 2018, 02:42 PM
Good morning, people. Buy vvdi mb tool over a year ago !!! And I'm trying to load token and you can not. Device is not activated !! Bought in Xhorsetool. Quen, apart from them can you activate it?
convet 42
21st May, 2018, 10:58 PM
Hey ,members please l need to aske about w204 .c280 7 gear box programing by vvdi. we change used gearbox on car .car started fine but gear not change it. vvdi it show to how to renew gear box so after renew gear box .it not need to programing on car?.it will coding it self?.please can explain here .thanks on advance.
Basti13
22nd May, 2018, 12:27 AM
Hello people , i need help , how can i renew delphi crd3.60 in w176 220 d from 2014 by vvdi mb tool ??? If yes how i can connect on bench ??
lush29
22nd May, 2018, 08:18 AM
Hello people , i need help , how can i renew delphi crd3.60 in w176 220 d from 2014 by vvdi mb tool ??? If yes how i can connect on bench ??Never did crd3 my self.
But I ordered the adaptors and I did and crd2 and worked perfect.
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Basti13
22nd May, 2018, 10:19 AM
I need this adaptors (ordered allready ) ? or can i have connecting diagram ?
Weasel3
22nd May, 2018, 10:35 PM
Good morning, people. Buy vvdi mb tool over a year ago !!! And I'm trying to load token and you can not. Device is not activated !! Bought in Xhorsetool. Quen, apart from them can you activate it?
I hope you have downloaded the latest software.
And also I guess you need to check, if there is need of a firmware upgrade.
After this it should connect to server, and activate for the next 31 days.
rola1971
23rd May, 2018, 08:13 AM
I need this adaptors (ordered allready ) ? or can i have connecting diagram ?
check this manual may be help for you
good luck
http://noimmo.lt/Magic_Eraser_connection.pdf
Basti13
23rd May, 2018, 12:56 PM
Thank you for answer
Gioaute
23rd May, 2018, 06:55 PM
I am trying to get password from w169 eis by obd / ir but failed.. :confusion:
Dìd it anybody??
auto techniek
23rd May, 2018, 07:57 PM
I am trying to get password from w169 eis by obd / ir but failed.. :confusion:
Dìd it anybody??Try online password calculation.
You can t get password with obd or ir.
vageric
24th May, 2018, 06:12 AM
Try online password calculation.
You can t get password with obd or ir.
why not?
i do it all the time.
auto techniek
24th May, 2018, 09:31 AM
why not?
i do it all the time.If plan A does not work try plan B.
Otherwise i wil be a expensive key to make.
Gioaute
24th May, 2018, 09:56 AM
If plan A does not work try plan B.
Otherwise i wil be a expensive key to make.
Yes , it is not free.
If everybody have to pay money about it, for Xhorse might not be convenient implement ir/obd reading password.
Thanks
auto techniek
24th May, 2018, 11:05 AM
I know but if you can t read pass you can t make key and you can t earn money.
Instead of trying to find out what de problem is cost a lot of time.
By the way intimited token is a very good choice, No need to worry about how much and how often you use.
Basti13
24th May, 2018, 03:02 PM
I come back again to CRD3.60 Delphi i cant comunicate by vvdi mb any one can help Mercedes w176 A-class 2014 .
solitaire
24th May, 2018, 07:37 PM
I come back again to CRD3.60 Delphi i cant comunicate by vvdi mb any one can help Mercedes w176 A-class 2014 .
I think You have FBS4 ECU, maybe in future will be possible.
AVDI announced FBS4 :)
Basti13
25th May, 2018, 11:52 AM
I have full bdm reading from old one but something wrong and not work .
fytfh
25th May, 2018, 12:35 PM
need pinout for mercedes ecu connection EDC16 CR3.13 i find some pinout in google but dont work thanks
rola1971
25th May, 2018, 05:58 PM
need pinout for mercedes ecu connection EDC16 CR3.13 i find some pinout in google but dont work thanks
hi
check there
http://noimmo.lt/Magic_Eraser_connection.pdf
Gioaute
26th May, 2018, 12:28 PM
I am tired of vvdi .
I read the password from the working key by adapter and then the key lost data .
I tried many time to insert again the key in the car but does not start anymore . After reading the status is “unuse”!
My customer is angry with me and want money for broken key and car stopped ... it was the only one working key.
Please How to solve the problem?
Thanks!!
kostas
26th May, 2018, 12:38 PM
I am tired of vvdi .
I read the password from the working key by adapter and then the key lost data .
I tried many time to insert again the key in the car but does not start anymore . After reading the status is “unuse”!
My customer is angry with me and want money for broken key and car stopped ... it was the only one working key.
Please How to solve the problem?
531175
Thanks!!
Make key virgin and write again
rola1971
26th May, 2018, 07:35 PM
I am tired of vvdi .
I read the password from the working key by adapter and then the key lost data .
I tried many time to insert again the key in the car but does not start anymore . After reading the status is “unuse”!
My customer is angry with me and want money for broken key and car stopped ... it was the only one working key.
Please How to solve the problem?
Thanks!!
hirst read manual if dont know what doit
all time if you read password from nec key need renew this key and make new
it is problem 2 year
PierreTheron
26th May, 2018, 08:12 PM
Why does this keep ongoing . must always buy some more stuff and it does not stop .. is it a new way off doing business
PierreTheron
26th May, 2018, 08:16 PM
You must use tool carefully m8 .. That is all i can say ..
Only used on w204 and never had problems so far ...
HeXeN
28th May, 2018, 04:06 PM
good source for BE keys?
or original?
Diablotic
30th May, 2018, 07:49 AM
I try to fix Merc W210 that will not start. After key turned it will crank for 1/4 turn and that's all. The car will start when I push it.
After diagnosis there is P1056 error in EIS. It means CAN line is broken, checked all the lines and are fine, the problem is 99% with EIS - can someone confirm this? Have anyone been fighting with this error? I can order EIS from junkyard but then what is the easiest way to do it (it has 2 MCUs?)- I have VVDI MBtool and Xprog.
kronk92
30th May, 2018, 10:20 PM
hi,
is someone experiencing problems with latest xhorse keys ?
CaioW
31st May, 2018, 11:45 PM
I am tired of vvdi .
I read the password from the working key by adapter and then the key lost data .
I tried many time to insert again the key in the car but does not start anymore . After reading the status is “unuse”!
My customer is angry with me and want money for broken key and car stopped ... it was the only one working key.
Please How to solve the problem?
Thanks!!
You need this adapter from Xhorse
532483
He have a micro below the PCB, and with this you can read both 51 and 57v of nec passwords.
But you need to RENEW the NEC after the password reading.
ALWAYS.
Its normal procedure, and works like a charm.
betoRJ
1st June, 2018, 01:59 AM
YOU NEED TO USE AND SELECT NEC ADAPTADOR AND RENEW THE KEY!
remove NEC CHIP FROM KEY
close R3 jumper on adaptador (FOR V51 TYPE) and soldering the chip on adaptador like the picture!
and be happy
betoRJ
1st June, 2018, 02:04 AM
YOU NEED TO USE AND SELECT NEC ADAPTADOR AND RENEW THE KEY!
remove NEC CHIP FROM KEY
close R3 jumper on adaptador (FOR V51 TYPE) and soldering the chip on adaptador like the picture!
and be happy
lpf01
1st June, 2018, 08:03 AM
I try to fix Merc W210 that will not start. After key turned it will crank for 1/4 turn and that's all. The car will start when I push it.
After diagnosis there is P1056 error in EIS. It means CAN line is broken, checked all the lines and are fine, the problem is 99% with EIS - can someone confirm this? Have anyone been fighting with this error? I can order EIS from junkyard but then what is the easiest way to do it (it has 2 MCUs?)- I have VVDI MBtool and Xprog.
As i remember can line is the small green connector on w210, on this line it gives ecu signal to enable immo or not.
If it start for push it means immo is enabled in ecu, so disassembe EZS and search for the contacts of the starter, as i remember it switch 2 big contacts inside mechanically.
trinicolin
2nd June, 2018, 01:55 AM
Hi guys. Just out curiosity can a W204 ESL motor fail and not lock the chip?
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daxxer
2nd June, 2018, 06:36 AM
Hi guys. Just out curiosity can a W204 ESL motor fail and not lock the chip?
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thats not any curiosity ;)
ant21000
3rd June, 2018, 12:47 AM
Hi mates!! Now I do a W204 all key lost Send my the pass, program the key and dont work, I probe the same key whit other EIS and work. Is possible the server send me wrong the key pass?
Thansks in advance!
trinicolin
3rd June, 2018, 02:11 AM
So can it happen?
thats not any curiosity ;)
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lpf01
3rd June, 2018, 04:31 PM
So can it happen?
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Yes, not always goes into fatal error, until you hear relay ticking when you insert key its good.
lpf01
3rd June, 2018, 04:32 PM
Hi mates!! Now I do a W204 all key lost Send my the pass, program the key and dont work, I probe the same key whit other EIS and work. Is possible the server send me wrong the key pass?
Thansks in advance!
Happened with me last time on an E coupe, made another data collect, upload, and server automatically give good pass, and cancelled the previous upload.
trinicolin
3rd June, 2018, 04:45 PM
Yes, not always goes into fatal error, until you hear relay ticking when you insert key its good.Thank you. I am in operation because of this forum. Learning everyday.
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yui
5th June, 2018, 01:35 AM
what wrong with server?
rojhat
5th June, 2018, 02:26 AM
what wrong with server?You are right quening 8 infinty search
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obeids
6th June, 2018, 03:09 PM
So the VVDI keys that I have problem with are these... Apparently samic said it's a bug in the software. I wonder how true is that.....
Daxxer says he doesn't believe it. However I tried on about 4 or 5 vehicles and same problem. Use other CHina BE keys and they work fine.
533790
daxxer
6th June, 2018, 04:36 PM
So the VVDI keys that I have problem with are these... Apparently samic said it's a bug in the software. I wonder how true is that.....
Daxxer says he doesn't believe it. However I tried on about 4 or 5 vehicles and same problem. Use other CHina BE keys and they work fine.
533790
as i see you buy this keys from Moe, why not ask him ? :listen:
what i know and Samic told you right....one part of production have fault, but all seller get this info.... :listen:
thats have nothing to do with Xhorse new benz keys....its very fine and i get only positive feedback of all people who use it...mainly on old W210 too... ;)
compare this new keys with other one BE are not reliable :stupid:
obeids
8th June, 2018, 12:52 PM
as i see you buy this keys from Moe, why not ask him ? :listen:
what i know and Samic told you right....one part of production have fault, but all seller get this info.... :listen:
thats have nothing to do with Xhorse new benz keys....its very fine and i get only positive feedback of all people who use it...mainly on old W210 too... ;)
compare this new keys with other one BE are not reliable :stupid:
I don't know who is this MOE whom you speak about!
So why does X-Horse not take their faulty keys and replace them with good ones?
daxxer
8th June, 2018, 02:07 PM
I don't know who is this MOE whom you speak about!
So why does X-Horse not take their faulty keys and replace them with good ones?
Xhorse take all faulty keys back and send you back new one...still not understand why you not take contact with your seller ???? ;)
alexxxb0450
8th June, 2018, 09:33 PM
Xhorse take all faulty keys back and send you back new one...still not understand why you not take contact with your seller ???? ;)
hi
ive recived my changed keys and 4 is good and one is bad againe
i think its big problem for xhorse with this keys
i realy like their tools and work with fun but keys its something
i dont wont to send no working key back becase it takes a lot of time
so i just wait for sometime when the quality will be stabil
Maartinj
9th June, 2018, 04:28 AM
hi
ive recived my changed keys and 4 is good and one is bad againe
i think its big problem for xhorse with this keys
i realy like their tools and work with fun but keys its something
i dont wont to send no working key back becase it takes a lot of time
so i just wait for sometime when the quality will be stabil
now all is working
simple buy keys from your local dealer , and you will get it witin few days
ant21000
12th June, 2018, 08:11 AM
I have the same problems, and only whit W164, now I probe whit VVDI key and no problems yet.
ant21000
12th June, 2018, 08:13 AM
Hi, had couple of w164 in last few weeks i have problem with. first one 09 ml called me to say that the key can start the car but remote stopped working, i gave him a new key and he called a week after with the same problem. second one 2010 GL, called after few weeks to say that the remote stopped working and the key sometimes can start and sometimes can't. i use be keys, i make a lot of them and didnt get a callbacks so far, it seems like it only has a problem with the w164, when i check the key its functioning and has a signal but from some reason the cars cant get it. any idea?
I have the same problem and only whit W164, now i probe whit VVDI key and no problem yet
Raptor181
13th June, 2018, 07:40 AM
Hello,
Have anybody problem read ESL 204 with version V4.0.0 VVDI MB TOOL?
If i read ESL - READ FAILED.
THX
fytfh
13th June, 2018, 11:32 AM
you read on the bench? i have readed lot of this esl on the bench
vageric
13th June, 2018, 12:59 PM
i notice that since the update to v4.0.0 when you try to unlock the esl AA flag it get the eprom damage.
before the update i have unlock a lot of them and always ok.
since update i tried 6 pcs and all damage.
so i would say update is bad!
or is it just me?
obeids
13th June, 2018, 06:10 PM
i notice that since the update to v4.0.0 when you try to unlock the esl AA flag it get the eprom damage.
before the update i have unlock a lot of them and always ok.
since update i tried 6 pcs and all damage.
so i would say update is bad!
or is it just me?
After last update I have very little Success UNLOCK W204 ESL. Before 90% of the would unlock and I could Reprogram. Recently after update I have tried a few and all take very very long time and not unlock. Keep saying failed.
vageric
13th June, 2018, 08:22 PM
After last update I have very little Success UNLOCK W204 ESL. Before 90% of the would unlock and I could Reprogram. Recently after update I have tried a few and all take very very long time and not unlock. Keep saying failed.
failed is not that bad, because you can still succeed.
by me it damage the soft and get the TP not removed.
so need to trow the chip in the bin!
what also mean the the elv become useless.
didi_du_93000
14th June, 2018, 10:31 PM
Hello all, this tool work with CLA W117 2017? Need to learn a second key (not all keys lost).
Regards,
With Tapatalk
wissamshaat
15th June, 2018, 12:03 AM
Hello all, this tool work with CLA W117 2017? Need to learn a second key (not all keys lost).
Regards,
With Tapatalk
no tool work for that yet
rokibar
23rd June, 2018, 04:25 PM
Yes,that's ture.now the online calculate ok,and will add more function,maybe more than 1 month.
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rojhat
23rd June, 2018, 09:27 PM
Hi xhorse dont want update 4.0.0 this shit version have lot of problem activation reading eis.....
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lagaffe
25th June, 2018, 11:12 AM
Hi,
so what is recommended version?
HeXeN
25th June, 2018, 02:54 PM
how to go back?
rojhat
25th June, 2018, 04:02 PM
Hi not possible go back wait update
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auto techniek
27th June, 2018, 09:10 AM
Hi mates
Need some info
W176 A class from 2014. FBS3 or 4? Vin WDD1760011J240138
I did look in EPC but no idea where to look.
shinehead
27th June, 2018, 04:56 PM
hi, im newbie here , dont know how to use the site properly but just trying, actually hope i can get some advice , looking to buy mercedes eis key programmer can one kindly assist , i thought of buying the simon one , now i see the vvdi one can one advice which one is good
thank you
autoTkey
28th June, 2018, 07:03 AM
Buy whichever suits your budget. But you need to know how to use it. First learn, then decide what to buy.
VVDI MB is a good one. CGDI also works OK, but has a little less functions.
Ringo24
28th June, 2018, 07:17 AM
Hi mates
Need some info
W176 A class from 2014. FBS3 or 4? Vin WDD1760011J240138
I did look in EPC but no idea where to look.
W176 it's FBS4
auto techniek
28th June, 2018, 07:31 AM
W176 it's FBS4Not all W176 are fbs4 to make things clear. Early models are fbs3.
daxxer
28th June, 2018, 07:38 AM
Not all W176 are fbs4 to make things clear. Early models are fbs3.
then why ask ? :D
go to check it ;)
auto techniek
28th June, 2018, 07:45 AM
then why ask ? :D
go to check it ;)I know Models from 2012 are fbs3.
I m asking for 2014 car. If i new i would not ask.
By the way did take a look in EPC but could not find any usefull info.
hamzadaw2000
28th June, 2018, 08:39 AM
W203 and w211 why can not read ezs data via IR key, also to extract password can not ?
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daxxer
28th June, 2018, 08:44 AM
are your IR adapter ok ?? :listen:
lagaffe
29th June, 2018, 02:47 PM
w203 or w211 read eis not work with last update... last update have really huge bug :(
drugowaz
29th June, 2018, 03:22 PM
Not all versions you can read by IR ive tested i version read by IR other no.
autoTkey
29th June, 2018, 03:24 PM
My tool failed to read a few cars by IR - sometimes it worked, other times not. So I changed it with a new one and everything went to normal.
drugowaz
29th June, 2018, 05:25 PM
New IR adapter?
Faraday
30th June, 2018, 04:07 PM
w203 or w211 read eis not work with last update... last update have really huge bug :(
Had same problem (w211) read eis by programmer all ok.
vasa
1st July, 2018, 06:54 AM
For me work with this version maybe is better use tokes for password calculation als read free via infra ;-)
Frankcar
1st July, 2018, 12:24 PM
IR adapter not have quality , sometimes can't read EIS data
drugowaz
1st July, 2018, 01:14 PM
I dont think its adapter problem.
Example i take two eis w211 for test.
1 eis read data pass trough IR .than connect other eis read only data but no pass. Try 5 times. Than connect again previous eis and reads tada and pass first time. So its not adapter problem
daxxer
1st July, 2018, 09:15 PM
I dont think its adapter problem.
Example i take two eis w211 for test.
1 eis read data pass trough IR .than connect other eis read only data but no pass. Try 5 times. Than connect again previous eis and reads tada and pass first time. So its not adapter problem
but this total standard normal :D :D :D :D
one EZS SUPPORT read pass by IR, the other one DONT SUPPORT this ;)
this are OPERATOR PROBLEM only :listen:
autocheck
1st July, 2018, 11:53 PM
Also discovered that Ir only read pass on w211 HC and don't read password on w211 ST & w209 ZWG
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rojhat
1st July, 2018, 11:57 PM
Hi last day try read just eis info on obd akd ir and no found any info . Out ezs reading with ezs adapter and vvdiprog and make key . With last versions realy most many ir covering for ezs
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rojhat
1st July, 2018, 11:58 PM
Little info :) on w169 AKL situation
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drugowaz
2nd July, 2018, 04:54 AM
but this total standard normal :D :D :D :D
one EZS SUPPORT read pass by IR, the other one DONT SUPPORT this ;)
this are OPERATOR PROBLEM only :listen:
What do you mean oerator? Me?
PremierD
2nd July, 2018, 08:34 AM
The interface between the seat ..and the keyboard ..:roflmao:
drugowaz
2nd July, 2018, 10:41 AM
For me its funny too. But i didnt see answer why same car same year eis read other not.
autoTkey
2nd July, 2018, 12:19 PM
Important is what is on the inside. The year - not so much.
Are the PNs the same, too?
drugowaz
2nd July, 2018, 01:14 PM
No diferent. Im asking those who say what it reads pass all w211 209 by IR. And if not read it problem of operator. I need facts
auto techniek
2nd July, 2018, 01:18 PM
Not true
You can t read password from all W211 and W209 by IR.
Forget it.
Important is what is on the inside. The year - not so much.
Are the PNs the same, too?
daxxer
2nd July, 2018, 01:24 PM
No diferent. Im asking those who say what it reads pass all w211 209 by IR. And if not read it problem of operator. I need facts
Who it say ???? :listen:
MrPhilDiag
4th July, 2018, 02:55 AM
hello guys,
I tried doing w204 all keys lost today with vvdi BGA and power adapter.. it failed. Time goes from 18min to 2 hr to 4hr... then it says failed on bottom of application.
Them I tried doing without power adapter... also failed.
i took EIS to my freind's shop and worked 1st try with his AVDI
I wonder if it's possible that my IR adapter is bad even if I was able to read EIS info with it ??
how can I test the IR adapter ?
any other reasons for the process to fail ?
I asked the website that sold me the tool and the lady says there's no waranty oh those adapter......:congrats:
fytfh
4th July, 2018, 06:09 AM
need diagram for crd 11 delphi control unit connection need to renew this ecu is possible or no
autoTkey
4th July, 2018, 06:28 AM
Not true
You can t read password from all W211 and W209 by IR.
Forget it.
I didn't say you can! In fact I mean the same you say - important is the PN. You can read only certain PNs of W203/W209/W211.
But I don't know which :)
Ringo24
4th July, 2018, 07:33 AM
539745
need diagram for crd 11 delphi control unit connection need to renew this ecu is possible or no
here you go
mercis
4th July, 2018, 08:10 AM
yes,you must buy ecu adapter set from xhorse,work perfekt on bench
CaioW
4th July, 2018, 06:34 PM
Guys..
If you have HC08 on W203 you can read the password by IR
If you have W211 with HC12 in some cases you can read the password, that depends the MASK of the mcu.
Sometimes you have W203 on VIN but in EIS you have W209 or 211, they will be HC or ST12, on W209/211 you cant read the password by IR, so need to take out the ezs and read by jtag or online calculation.
On does cases you need to have key v51 or v57 to take out the password, or if you have OBD comunication you can use the online server to calc the password for you.
And does rules are not with vvdi, that aplies to AVDI, zedfull and simon touch to.
autoTkey
5th July, 2018, 05:58 AM
Very good CaioW, but it is not recommended to extract pass with server calculation on those cars(W203, W209, W211) - the working key will lose sync in the process and you will be left with no working key and no pass in the end. So if IR adapter can't get pass and key is not v51/57 you will need to do EEPROM work.
CaioW
5th July, 2018, 09:40 AM
Very good CaioW, but it is not recommended to extract pass with server calculation on those cars(W203, W209, W211) - the working key will lose sync in the process and you will be left with no working key and no pass in the end. So if IR adapter can't get pass and key is not v51/57 you will need to do EEPROM work.
If you have comunication by OBD with W209/211 there is no problem to do online, even if you lost the key counter, you just need to take in and out like 7 times and let the key in the EZS for 1 minut and the key back to life.
Edit: If you have comunication by OBD without the blue cable plugged in :D
fytfh
5th July, 2018, 11:32 AM
539745
here you go
diagram work vvdi find ecu with and without resistor renew ok but not possible to be learninf witj star
Diablotic
11th July, 2018, 08:01 AM
W245 add key is possible?
vageric
11th July, 2018, 08:09 AM
W245 add key is possible?
check your manual!
Diablotic
11th July, 2018, 08:22 AM
I am away from my computer with manual, I need to call my customer back.
vitzauto
11th July, 2018, 01:59 PM
Anyone have issues witb server ,
I was trying to sync the device but is says commincation failed
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auto techniek
11th July, 2018, 08:54 PM
Hi
I had a situation.
Need make spare key W204.
Read eis is OK.
Aquisition half way stopped and de timer stay on 00 min 00 sec. Then nothing happens and i het error aquisition failed.
Tested other car and all went smoothless.
Any idea what s going on. ophttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180711/e2ce408d4ecf36237e94c805976d017e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180711/501662fda33232a53822727edb9e230a.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180711/61d7f90e124c0b4e9d1818838a56bea7.jpg
lpf01
11th July, 2018, 10:24 PM
failed is not that bad, because you can still succeed.
by me it damage the soft and get the TP not removed.
so need to trow the chip in the bin!
what also mean the the elv become useless.
Had the same issue with 3 NEC last week.
I deceided to play a little with it.
Put nec into the adapter and push renew button, after a few try to renew it, push stop button, check esl damage and voila it had fatal error again.
Than repair fatal error as do before, can clear tp, personalise, so it worth a try.
crazylou2017
13th July, 2018, 08:27 AM
VVDI MB tool V4.1 update:
https://mega.nz/#!jwZB2CwC!tYiYsbfvMU9_8NtyUtSEsfE30mNzFo7r9SIZdjK aWI0
2018-07-13
*** Require firmware V4.0.0
************************************************** **********************
===== BENZ V4.1.0 =====
1. This update no need update the firmware
2. Password calculation: Support calculate password for W202/W208/W210(KLine) EIS
a. No more need MCU's de/soldering, very safe and quickly
b. Support add key and lost all key for password calculation
c. The procedure require about 25-30 minutes
d. The procedure need MB Power Adapter support
e. The procedure should work on the bench, not on car
3. Bugfix for load motorola EEPROM dump file in EIS window
4. Bugfix for activate BE key
5. Bugfix for read EIS W209
6. Bugfix
CaioW
13th July, 2018, 10:52 AM
Lets make some tests :D :D :D
drugowaz
13th July, 2018, 11:10 AM
Faster to desolder :D
If all was by obd on car good. Now still remove eis + use adapter and wait 25min.
autoTkey
13th July, 2018, 11:23 AM
Faster to desolder :D
If all was by obd on car good. Now still remove eis + use adapter and wait 25min.
But not safer. These EZS module sometimes are hell to re-solder and easy to damage. Also EEPROM programmers like Xprog every time read a different content. So it's faster only in rare cases.
Diablotic
13th July, 2018, 11:56 AM
Guys, I install my first ESL emulator for W204 and I think I need your help.
I read EIS data with passwords and save them, this is clear to me. I replaced faulty ESL with xhorse emulator and when I read it on the car using OBD line I cannot read any data - got 'failed to read' message. Tried with the faulty ESL from the car and the same situation - cannot read it by obd. I now wonder whether this is normal or not. Should I be able to read xhorse emulator by OBD on car?
The situation on car is that I can switch the lights on, when I insert key to EIS I got instruments lights on but cannot turn ignition on due to faulty ESL.
solitaire
13th July, 2018, 12:00 PM
Esl emulatar don’t have CAN, car don’t have k-line.
Connect direct to emulator blue “crocodile” clip
Diablotic
13th July, 2018, 12:05 PM
Which pin?
drugowaz
13th July, 2018, 12:28 PM
Desolder easy as chips. I dont know your xprog but ive done minimum 10 these old eis no problem. Only one time data was corrupted but this was caused not by programmer.
Last last week was w220 03 but eis was with old mcu . Imposible to rwad by IR. So take out eis was 10 times pain thsn make key with soldering
autoTkey
13th July, 2018, 01:36 PM
Yes, there's always this - everyone is so good and efficient in everything when discussing things, but *hit can always happen. So better choose the safer way - I doubt anyone is making a dozen of these a day to be worried so much of the time necessary.
In the end it is a good addition from Xhorse.
Diablotic
13th July, 2018, 02:14 PM
Which pin?
Sorted, Pin 3
CaioW
13th July, 2018, 02:53 PM
Desolder easy as chips. I dont know your xprog but ive done minimum 10 these old eis no problem. Only one time data was corrupted but this was caused not by programmer.
Last last week was w220 03 but eis was with old mcu . Imposible to rwad by IR. So take out eis was 10 times pain thsn make key with soldering
You will have problems one day or another with w202/208/210, thats a fact.
To much old car, old pieces, hot air.. do the math.
Thats was a huge update, just let the power adapter do the job for 25 minuts and a clean job.
This is not a fastfood service, so 25 minuts is just good enough.
drugowaz
13th July, 2018, 02:57 PM
+extra adapter 100e
auto techniek
13th July, 2018, 03:53 PM
For spare key just read NEC with adapter easy and quicker.
crazylou2017
14th July, 2018, 02:32 AM
For spare key just read NEC with adapter easy and quicker.
Which NEC you advise? Two weeks ago, bought this one (http://www.uobdii.com/wholesale/transponder-chip-for-benz-smart-key-dedicated-nec.html), and vvdi mb can't read it.
What I am told was VVDI MB can't found the NEC chip (Made by Japan) because VVDI MB update and close this function. It may cost several months or half an hour to update this chip and work with VVDI MB.
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electromech
14th July, 2018, 06:27 AM
Mine too has stopped this function why would they remove this function but yet sell us adapters
drugowaz
14th July, 2018, 06:48 AM
So not possible to renew used keys no more?
Brat
14th July, 2018, 06:54 AM
Which NEC you advise? Two weeks ago, bought this one (http://www.uobdii.com/wholesale/transponder-chip-for-benz-smart-key-dedicated-nec.html), and vvdi mb can't read it.
What I am told was VVDI MB can't found the NEC chip (Made by Japan) because VVDI MB update and close this function. It may cost several months or half an hour to update this chip and work with VVDI MB.
Did you read specification in you link?
"It is transponder chip for Benz smart key dedicated NEC. Can only be written once.
Kindly note it can't work together with Xhorse VVDI MB BGA Tool."
vvdimb adapter is for read original mb nec key not for china key!
auto techniek
14th July, 2018, 02:08 PM
Transponder Chip for Benz Smart Key Dedicated NEC
Specification
It is transponder chip for Benz smart key dedicated NEC. Can only be written once.
Kindly note it can't work together with Xhorse VVDI MB .BGA Tool
So not possible to renew used keys no more?
daxxer
14th July, 2018, 04:15 PM
Which NEC you advise? Two weeks ago, bought this one (http://www.uobdii.com/wholesale/transponder-chip-for-benz-smart-key-dedicated-nec.html), and vvdi mb can't read it.
What I am told was VVDI MB can't found the NEC chip (Made by Japan) because VVDI MB update and close this function. It may cost several months or half an hour to update this chip and work with VVDI MB.
542015542016542017542018
Ohh GOD :D NEC chip made in japan :D :D
i not have any power to comment this stupidity :listen:
daxxer
14th July, 2018, 04:17 PM
So not possible to renew used keys no more?
i have for you one very useful recommandation.....save to you lot of time and money, give back your tool to the seller where you bought it and use again hammer and some piece of wood... ;)
its immposible to help you with any other available way.... :stupid:
sry...but this is not only operator fail.....but thats total dark.......
auto techniek
14th July, 2018, 04:19 PM
Daxxer@ where are your monkeys?
Ohh GOD :D NEC chip made in japan :D :D
i not have any power to comment this stupidity :listen:
daxxer
14th July, 2018, 04:21 PM
Daxxer@ where are your monkeys?
here not available any my favorited monkeys unfortunately.... :bawling:
alisher
15th July, 2018, 05:55 AM
W210 read PSW OK - 30 min
comizelu
15th July, 2018, 06:08 PM
Hi guys,
Any help with w211?
Car does not recognize the key anymore..
I'm new to mb.. Thanks.
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auto techniek
15th July, 2018, 06:39 PM
Tell us what happened?
Hi guys,
Any help with w211?
Car does not recognize the key anymore..
I'm new to mb.. Thanks.
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comizelu
15th July, 2018, 08:03 PM
Tell us what happened?Customer said, the he insert key in ignition on screen come up "key not recongnized"...
Thanks
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drugowaz
15th July, 2018, 08:08 PM
What key. New key old key. What was done to car etc
comizelu
15th July, 2018, 09:18 PM
What key. New key old key. What was done to car etcI will go to the car tomorrow.
Nothing has been done to the car just abandoned for more than a year. Now does not recognize the keys.
These are the keys.thanks https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180715/b3e168bde054fabe4cb7e1d6525c7bcb.jpg
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dmp
15th July, 2018, 09:20 PM
I will go to the car tomorrow.
Nothing has been done to the car just abandoned for more than a year. Now does not recognize the keys.
These are the keys.thanks https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180715/b3e168bde054fabe4cb7e1d6525c7bcb.jpg
Inviato dal mio HTC 10 evo utilizzando TapatalkCould it be the steering lock?
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autoTkey
16th July, 2018, 07:25 AM
Often a problem when car battery has been left to slowly die.
Probably you will need to find pass from EZS and reprogram the original keys.
exSPEEDyTOR
16th July, 2018, 03:21 PM
W210 read PSW OK - 30 min
Friend what manual you use to connect Power adapter to eis?
connect like this photo?
because I cant found any info OBD to EIS connector
I dont have EIS connector, I try connect OBD to EIS manualy pin by pin
auto techniek
16th July, 2018, 04:44 PM
When you select W202/w208/w210 fast you wil get first diagram
Friend what manual you use to connect Power adapter to eis?
connect like this photo?
because I cant found any info OBD to EIS connector
I dont have EIS connector, I try connect OBD to EIS manualy pin by pin
comizelu
16th July, 2018, 05:20 PM
The car is a w220 2005.
I could not find the eis in the vvdi prog.
How can read it?
Thanks https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180716/11dc9397327b19c07412bda56b4ddd5f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180716/545d7b570c50bf0ddb28025521d7840e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180716/f0c25de4a5d53486420d42396ffc7803.jpg
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comizelu
16th July, 2018, 05:24 PM
....https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180716/1fae6cb1a0341e4a1d36707c27adcd7a.jpg
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comizelu
16th July, 2018, 05:33 PM
Cannot connect with obd or ir. Will have to read it on bench?
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drugowaz
16th July, 2018, 06:03 PM
Look w215......
exSPEEDyTOR
16th July, 2018, 07:02 PM
When you select W202/w208/w210 fast you wil get first diagram
Many thanks) funny situations))) I just prepared info about w202 without EIS... diagram show after pres Data Acquisition!!! but I try found Wiring diagram Button))) funny menu buttons)
daxxer
16th July, 2018, 09:46 PM
The car is a w220 2005.
I could not find the eis in the vvdi prog.
How can read it?
Thanks
Inviato dal mio HTC 10 evo utilizzando Tapatalk
very easy to find it in vvdi prog ;)
its W220 ST12 mcu type :listen:
madaxe
17th July, 2018, 09:34 PM
Tried to make a key to W210 today. Spent 30 mins aquiring data. Upload data. 78 mins queu wait, and time not going down. Clearly server not working. So a waste of time aquiring data. Why not put the current queue length in the software so I can see if it worth waiting ?
I dont mind that the server is down sometimes, thats gonna happen sooner or later, but please try to tell people in advance and definately put a queue length in the software, near the token check, so I can see if I need to get my soldering iron out. If you dont do this, and it happens often, people will find another tool.
Same with ID48 copying. Past 3 times I tried it, wait time over an hour. For me this is too long. Waste of time if you cant get it down to 30 mins or less. Put a queue length somewhere in the software that I can check before going out to the job, to manage customers expectations. Or people will find another tool.
ghostrider72
17th July, 2018, 10:09 PM
Last 3 times with id48 copy i had to wait 120min each time. Nightmare [emoji15]
Brat
18th July, 2018, 08:05 AM
Xhorse key again problematic in w164,one key not accept in ezs only one time blink led in key and nothing! other key accept,but 2-3 time start car 2-3 time activate alarm in car!
CaioW
18th July, 2018, 10:03 AM
Password extract w210 all key lost, with online password calculation.
100%
26minuts
2 tokens
electromech
18th July, 2018, 11:22 AM
What would one need to do if the Data Acquisition keeps failing to pull password on line
I tries OBD and IR with same results ...Failed to find password please retry
daxxer
18th July, 2018, 12:14 PM
What would one need to do if the Data Acquisition keeps failing to pull password on line
I tries OBD and IR with same results ...Failed to find password please retry
show screen :listen:
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