neil lennon under police investigation

[mattybhoy]

Two Liverpool fans come onto a Neil Lennon thread and instead of actually talking about the subject they come out with the same old, same old about 'our league's better than yours' and funny enough it's the same two that's said it on past threads to do with either Rangers or Celtic. To be fair I don't see many Celtic or Rangers fans having a go about Liverpool on your thread?

You will not find any argument about our league being sh*te (like many have admitted to you) or that your league is 'one of' the best leagues, but that highlights that fact that you have sh*ite support compared with Celtic & Rangers, or indeed United or Newcastle for that! 5 European cups, playing in a super, duper, duper, duper! league and still can't sell out a 44,000 ground every week. Pish poor.

[Rodbouy]

of the top of my head, i think both rangers and celtic have won your league more times than us,them, arsenal and everton combined...
need i say any more?

On that point, Since the English Prem became what it is today. How many teams have actually won it?

In 18 years 4 teams have won it out of

Man U 10 times
Blackburn 1 times
Arsenal 3 times
Chelsea 3 times

So remove the year blackburn bought the league you have 3 teams that have won it and use have more teams in the league.

So lets face it, near enough every league in the world has the same stats in terms of actual % of different winners.

The fact of the matter is the Prem is only good due to foreign players as use can AFFORD AT THE MOMENT to throw mega bucks to players. That for Scotland will never be the case again.

But on a side note the new ruling about teams only being allowed to spend what they make will hurt teams in england big time.

[boomer39]

On that point, Since the English Prem became what it is today. How many teams have actually won it?

In 18 years 4 teams have won it out of

Man U 10 times
Blackburn 1 times
Arsenal 3 times
Chelsea 3 times

So remove the year blackburn bought the league you have 3 teams that have won it and use have more teams in the league.

So lets face it, near enough every league in the world has the same stats in terms of actual % of different winners.

The fact of the matter is the Prem is only good due to foreign players as use can AFFORD AT THE MOMENT to throw mega bucks to players. That for Scotland will never be the case again.

But on a side note the new ruling about teams only being allowed to spend what they make will hurt teams in england big time.

18 years... 4 teams... how long has the spl been going? how many have won it.. but the "name" means nothing..spl, premiership... still the "first division"!!!
btw, me and opsmonkey are being called for being on a thread about neil lennon but i dont think we were the 1st ones to digress!!!! we were just replying to other posters...
right ... off now... mrs browns boys is on soon...

[andy91]

I dont agree that either Rangers and Celtic could get into the Premiership top 4.
Both teams would survive on their great home support but mid table would be more realistic.
I cant think of a single player who would get into the current top 4 teams.
Im more a realist than an optimist,sorry guys.

Andy.

[opsmonkey]

err. we sell out every game.. there were games when the season ticket holders stayed away in objection of Hodgson.. As they were season ticket holders and they pay up front the ground was sold out..

Celtic and Rangers fans were staying away in droves and watching the games in the pubs.. hence why you have to go to Africa to watch the SPL live at 3pm

You will see empty parts of the stadium in the Anfield Rd end where the away allocation is.. If Wigan get allocated 4k tickets but only sell 1k the 4k is still blocked off unless they send tickets back 72 hrs before KO..

Hardly the fault of Lpool fans that is it..

As for only spending what you make.. The only teams it will hurt is those who have thrown ?m away like City & Chelsea who make buttons from worldwide merchandise

[Rodbouy]

I dont agree that either Rangers and Celtic could get into the Premiership top 4.
Both teams would survive on their great home support but mid table would be more realistic.
I cant think of a single player who would get into the current top 4 teams.
Im more a realist than an optimist,sorry guys.

Andy.

On current squad your probably correct but you forgot the money we would get being in the English Prem, You take away sky tvs money and your in the same boat as Celtic and Rangers. Thats a fact.

If we had same income we could buy the same players pay the same wages. Then the top 4 would become a reality. But like I said lets see how pans out with the new legislation once it come sin to affect oh and the Karen Murphy saga, should this go in her favour watch Skys ???? fall and we will see how much is then felt in the Premiership.

The english premiership is a good league and is attractive much more than we will ever be.

But la Liga reigns supreme. We are all in the shade to them.

[skegsagypsy]

Rather than get involved in the pish poor argument of your leagues better than mine, I'd like to focus on the target of death threats Neill Lennon and condemn those threats outright, Lennon has had bullets in the post, hoax bombs sent to his home, 24 hour round the clock security, he and his young family have been moved from their home 4 times in the early hours of the morning by the police due to serious death threats, and all because he has got the better of his nearest rivals! Your league may be better than ours, hell your team may be better than ours, but lets hear you all come out in defence of a young man under threat of death just because he is seen as successful football manager (or is it due to his religion) and forget the petty one-upmanship. Who cares which league is better ? at the end of the day fans of Kidderminster are as passionate about their team as fans of Celtic or Liverpool but I'm damn sure they would condemn the death threats as all decent football fans would.

[mattybhoy]

Well said Skegs.

[opsmonkey]

problem is your clubs have links to terrorists both protestant and catholic..

so your manager gets sent bullets in the post, you sing pro IRA songs, Rangers fans sing about the UVF, pictures of UVF lads in Rangers shirts with balaclavas on, same picture on the Falls Road but substitute the Rangers top for a Celtic one..

If you live in glasshouses you shouldn't throw stones, and thats to both clubs..

Rid the clubs of the religious divide and the terrorist shite will stop..

Don't say it can't be done.. Liverpool's Irish Catholics tried to give an allegiance to Everton in the 60's and were told to poke off by both sets of fans and clubs

The problem with 90% of Rangers or Celtic posts on DK is that they all try to do is points score.. Playground antics.. very very few are actually about scottish football which is why the likes of me and boomer come here and let you know that you dont talk about your football because outside of the 15 old firms games a season its shite

[Rodbouy]

Thing is tho the OLD FIRM is more than football and always will be. England created the Catholic Protestant divide and were left to live with it but thats a whole other issue.

Anyway who cares no one is ever going to agree and nor should they if we did wtf would we post about.

Mon The Hoops & Hail Hail !!!!!!!!!!!

[skegsagypsy]

Ops that is complete and utter bullox m8 and if you believe it then I'm sorry for you, both clubs may have elements who support Republican or Loyalist organisations but they would be in a minority, as for the "glass houses" comment regarding Lennon, that is despicable Lennon has as far as I am aware no connection with any of the organisations your alluding too, if you have evidence to the contrary I'd like to see it. You seem to believe Lennon deserves the threats he is receiving, can you make that point clear as I'm curious to see what you have to say on the matter.

[cgscott]

[mattybhoy]

problem is your clubs have links to terrorists both protestant and catholic..

so your manager gets sent bullets in the post, you sing pro IRA songs, Rangers fans sing about the UVF, pictures of UVF lads in Rangers shirts with balaclavas on, same picture on the Falls Road but substitute the Rangers top for a Celtic one..

If you live in glasshouses you shouldn't throw stones, and thats to both clubs..

Rid the clubs of the religious divide and the terrorist shite will stop..

Don't say it can't be done.. Liverpool's Irish Catholics tried to give an allegiance to Everton in the 60's and were told to poke off by both sets of fans and clubs

The problem with 90% of Rangers or Celtic posts on DK is that they all try to do is points score.. Playground antics.. very very few are actually about scottish football which is why the likes of me and boomer come here and let you know that you dont talk about your football because outside of the 15 old firms games a season its shite

You're showing in that post just how ignorant you are to Rangers and Celtic.

Firstly - The 'glasshouses' line. So what you're saying there is that you don't condemn the death threats etc what Lennon has had, because it's both clubs fault? I don't understand your rationale there? So whoever (be it Gazza or Lennon) has to put up with death threats because of the clubs?? That's sh*te.

Secondly - Clubs have links with terrorists? This is news to me.. So Celtic FC & Rangers FC have links to terrorists?? I think what you are maybe referring to is that some supporters may sing certain songs and have certain flags, but as for clubs having links - I dunni think so. And if you think Celtic and Rangers fans are unique in this look at England for starters - Chelsea and the English national side.. Abroad you will find that Barca, Bilbao and Sociedad fans sing songs and wave the flags.

Thirdly - You can't compare Celtic and Rangers to a group of Everton in the 60's! I'm not going to go into the history of both clubs, but that history is ingrained over a 100 years and in a melting pot that is the west of Scotland.

Forthly - Points score and playground antics of Celtic and Rangers fans on DK. Look at your own thread and more importantly the United one if you're talking about points scoring and playground antics - that is glasshouses time! It amazers me why so many Liverpool fans have to go onto the United forum and cause trouble? There is banter and there is banter, some of your sh*ite (like some of ours) goes too far, we all see and read it, just that the majority of Rangers and Celtic fans don't get involved in yours. I don't think you're in a postion to preach? I've seen a post today from youreslf referring to all the anti Liverpool songs United fans sing. And I'm sure some Utd fans will say that Liverpool fans sing about Munich..sounds like points scoring to me..?? But hey, it canni be! Only Celtic and Rangers fans on DK do that don't they??!

[skegsagypsy]

cg, that is a totally non de script headline which proves ~~~~ all, as a matter of fact it claims Lennon was stung ! Must try harder

[mattybhoy]

cgscott. Mate that don't help anything really, his 'ex business partner' doesn't mean him does it? It's like saying that Prince Andrew is a pedophile just because his mate is? The phrase guilty by association springs to mind...