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Samic
10th October, 2016, 02:24 AM
Does the new upgrade sw and fw can include nec eis 221 and 164 all key lost make key
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next version will be released personalize ESL function first in 'ESL tool'(no need renew eis)
about W221, W164 all key lost also will support soon.
Samic
10th October, 2016, 02:25 AM
2005 W211, Customer wanted spare key, he has 1 fully working key and another start only, central locking not working.
Could not read EIS via OBD, only via IR. Tried to get password via on line and I kept getting key not synchronised with EIS.
So decided to try and get password from NEC of second key (Success).
Made another key and when inserted into EIS, all I get is "Computing data please wait". After 10 minutes still the same.
The key count kept going up every time I inserted the EIS after reading the key but just below it was still showing Unused.
Anyone had the same experience?
select another key position and try again,let me know the result.
autocheck
10th October, 2016, 07:48 AM
Are we going to have a solution soon for all key lost w209 and w211. This car is giving problem with flash file being corrupted? Mr Samic urgent help needed.
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aassfour
10th October, 2016, 08:02 AM
select another key position and try again,let me know the result.
the best solution for this , remove the EIS , read it with vvdi prog and calculate dump to get keys. that way its guarantee the keys will start the car again
aassfour
10th October, 2016, 08:05 AM
Are we going to have a solution soon for all key lost w209 and w211. This car is giving problem with flash file being corrupted? Mr Samic urgent help needed.
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i dont think its possible at the moment donno my own opinion since the password is protected by 9s12. the best easy solution , remove EIS and calculate DUMP. its just a 10 minute job , with VVDI prog i dont think u will corrupt the flash unless u use a cheap 9s12 programmer like old Rosfar
tech111
10th October, 2016, 06:56 PM
I tried today with 7g plate version 1 and wasnt able to do it. Also can I renew vgs 2 and keep scn coding and program inside so I can use it in car without going with online procedure?
jacostanzo
11th October, 2016, 09:24 AM
Yesterday I made w207 all key lost with VVDI. Work perfect, great tool!!
hbt
11th October, 2016, 08:10 PM
Does somebody know how to make All keys lost W906 ?
daxxer
11th October, 2016, 08:17 PM
Does somebody know how to make All keys lost W906 ?
remove EZS, open it, read MCU ( 0L01Y is there i think ) eeprom, save dump and calculate keys :listen:
its easy to do it ;)
hbt
11th October, 2016, 08:57 PM
remove EZS, open it, read MCU ( 0L01Y is there i think ) eeprom, save dump and calculate keys :listen:
its easy to do it ;)
Can it calculate all type of ezs models?
At w639 how do you know where keys are located?
Regards,
kevfield
11th October, 2016, 10:53 PM
Can it calculate all type of ezs models?
At w639 how do you know where keys are located?
Regards,
Keys are in R2 mcu on W639
Thanks Kev
crazylou2017
12th October, 2016, 10:07 AM
Why not just go to the xhorsetool site .http://www.xhorsetool.com/wholesale/5-tokens-for-vvdi-mb-bga-tool-password-calculation.html (http://www.xhorseshop.com/wholesale/5-tokens-for-vvdi-mb-bga-tool-password-calculation.html)
Not sure whether or not you are tied to your supplier though
Bought one MB BGA tool software 2.0.8 from this site to make key on w204 with all key lost but failed, other models are working fine, I made a refund request on them, and the saler told me to wait for the new update ,because 2.1.0 version is able to read W204 ESL correctly......while after two weeks later they sent me the 2.1.0 software link ,then I orderd 2 tokens(W204 need to buy 2 tokens to read the ESL information), I updated my machine and tested it working fine as advertised. Very happy with this machine.
jacostanzo
12th October, 2016, 10:38 AM
Anybody have tried read password by IR on w639? and 220/215?
I have tried many 210 / 208 / 202 no one have succes.
With 203 k-line succes rate is 100%
mercis
12th October, 2016, 11:21 AM
639,906,210,202 dont work
daxxer
12th October, 2016, 11:42 AM
Bought one MB BGA tool software 2.0.8 from this site to make key on w204 with all key lost but failed, other models are working fine, I made a refund request on them, and the saler told me to wait for the new update ,because 2.1.0 version is able to read W204 ESL correctly......while after two weeks later they sent me the 2.1.0 software link ,then I orderd 2 tokens(W204 need to buy 2 tokens to read the ESL information), I updated my machine and tested it working fine as advertised. Very happy with this machine.
you can update SW and FW self directly, no need any seller link or others ;)
only connect your VVDI unit internet and press update FW and SW... :listen:
dustin2014
12th October, 2016, 12:24 PM
Anybody have tried read password by IR on w639? and 220/215?
I have tried many 210 / 208 / 202 no one have succes.
With 203 k-line succes rate is 100%
I read password on W639 by IR yesterday Took 5 or 6 attempts.
daxxer
12th October, 2016, 04:38 PM
I read password on W639 by IR yesterday Took 5 or 6 attempts.
sure ? what it was for EZS part number ? A639.545.??.??
drivesure
12th October, 2016, 04:57 PM
i have this tool with condor - 1 free token on the machine - 0 paid for tokens. i have w207 with lost keys and when quering password it says i have to buy token, can someone advise if it is different type of token need and where one can buy these tokens. i bought from hk and waiting to hear from them . any help appreciated. thank you
dustin2014
12th October, 2016, 05:01 PM
sure ? what is was for EZS part number ? A639.545.??.??
not sure, it was a 2005 W639. 115
vageric
12th October, 2016, 05:09 PM
i have this tool with condor - 1 free token on the machine - 0 paid for tokens. i have w207 with lost keys and when quering password it says i have to buy token, can someone advise if it is different type of token need and where one can buy these tokens. i bought from hk and waiting to hear from them . any help appreciated. thank you
because you need 2 Tokens for all lost keys.
you have only 1 Token a day free.
so you need to buy 1 more Token to get the 2 Tkoen for the all lost keys.
daxxer
12th October, 2016, 05:18 PM
i have this tool with condor - 1 free token on the machine - 0 paid for tokens. i have w207 with lost keys and when quering password it says i have to buy token, can someone advise if it is different type of token need and where one can buy these tokens. i bought from hk and waiting to hear from them . any help appreciated. thank you
all key lost = 2 tokens is needed :listen:
mundek
12th October, 2016, 09:58 PM
hello,i need to change esl w204 and i can not find erase password for eis
rob h
12th October, 2016, 10:38 PM
Would owning 2 condors solve this?
because you need 2 Tokens for all lost keys.
you have only 1 Token a day free.
so you need to buy 1 more Token to get the 2 Tkoen for the all lost keys.
kevfield
13th October, 2016, 12:04 AM
Would owning 2 condors solve this?
Yes
Thanks Kev
habbyb
13th October, 2016, 06:40 AM
not sure, it was a 2005 W639. 115
Hello, year 2005 is posibil HC05 Motorola depends part number EIS.
jacostanzo
13th October, 2016, 09:17 AM
Hello, year 2005 is posibil HC05 Motorola depends part number EIS.
From 2005 is HC08 for sure
obdsystems
13th October, 2016, 07:54 PM
Are we going to have a solution soon for all key lost w209 and w211. This car is giving problem with flash file being corrupted? Mr Samic urgent help needed.
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Why don't you do via eeprom -
lpf01
14th October, 2016, 01:07 PM
w212 eis renew failed today, find erase pass but failed to renew it.
tried as old and new type, same error.
daxxer
14th October, 2016, 01:15 PM
w212 eis renew failed today, find erase pass but failed to renew it.
tried as old and new type, same error.
have erase pass and key pass both valid ? :) for EIS/EZS unit to renew you need to have both passwords :listen:
lpf01
14th October, 2016, 01:16 PM
ohh i read somewhere in older posts key pass can be a random if i just want to renew it.
In this case i will not spend my time :)
daxxer
14th October, 2016, 01:33 PM
ohh i read somewhere in older posts key pass can be a random if i just want to renew it.
In this case i will not spend my time :)
oh god :D key pass can be random only when you write data to RENEWED EIS/EZS ;) not when you want to renew EIS/EZS first ;)
autoTkey
14th October, 2016, 01:43 PM
I just made W211 facelift. Once again the original key lost sync after the pass was calculated and had to desolder and renew it... It would've save me time and a token(although free) if I had just read the pass from key from the beginning...
ahmadiga
14th October, 2016, 05:18 PM
Hello DK friends
I have W204 all keys lost, I first select lost key,communication mode i select OBD, and chasis i select 172,204,207. then i click on Data aquisation, then device ask me to insert IR to eis, which i did, then i got an error messege - CAN NOT GET CALCULATION TIMES FROM SERVER! Can someone guide me what to do?
thanks in advance
lioncam
14th October, 2016, 05:43 PM
Hello DK friends
I have W204 all keys lost, I first select lost key,communication mode i select OBD, and chasis i select 172,204,207. then i click on Data aquisation, then device ask me to insert IR to eis, which i did, then i got an error messege - CAN NOT GET CALCULATION TIMES FROM SERVER! Can someone guide me what to do?
thanks in advance
I think that you must Internet connection and your device must have 2 times for calculation,
gurmk
14th October, 2016, 07:44 PM
select another key position and try again,let me know the result.
Thanks for the suggestions, I tried positions 3, 4, 7 & 8 but no luck.
Took the EIS out read the Eeprom prepared new keyfiles and new key worked straight away on slot 8.
Password was the same as what I got from the key, so must have been the Hashes
jacostanzo
15th October, 2016, 09:27 AM
Anybody have tried online password calculation, with motorola EZS with BGA key? Some says that password calculation with motorola EZS can lost sync
lpf01
15th October, 2016, 11:43 AM
I just made W211 facelift. Once again the original key lost sync after the pass was calculated and had to desolder and renew it... It would've save me time and a token(although free) if I had just read the pass from key from the beginning...
Same happened with me on a 204 esl renew, but i used the nec adapter to get password. i cannot imagine why the hell wont activate ezs and elv.... write new key and works like a charm.
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ahmadiga
15th October, 2016, 07:21 PM
I think that you must Internet connection and your device must have 2 times for calculation,
my internet connection is ok, and i have enough token. this is the second w204 EIS i am trying to do no success. i had done W204 BGA spare key several times 100% ok, only when i want to get password from lost key EIS i'm having this problem.
daxxer
15th October, 2016, 08:08 PM
my internet connection is ok, and i have enough token. this is the second w204 EIS i am trying to do no success. i had done W204 BGA spare key several times 100% ok, only when i want to get password from lost key EIS i'm having this problem.
CAN NOT GET CALCULATION TIMES FROM SERVER! = no internet connection :listen: because your VVDI unit can't synchronise with VVDI server :(
fixanycar
16th October, 2016, 04:59 AM
hello,i need to change esl w204 and i can not find erase password for eis
I got similar situation,
w204 ESL repair... p.n. A 204 545 13 08
"CAN NOT FIND ERASE PASSWORD" screen pops up after couple minutes of calculation of erase EIS password. One had done recently without any problem.
Very frustrating, what to do in this case? Anybody had resolved this type of problem?
I had the KEY password calculated from the second try without a delay but still no Erase Password. I only needed to personalize the ESL after the repair.
But now I am 85% through with the job but stuck here.
Waiting to hear what their support has to say but from talking to them before it's like forget about it....
Question is: Can other tool like MBE or Abrites get that password for me from information that I get on the screen after the initial reading of EIS??
I think that sending a vvdi obd read file will not help here, need some sort of conversion, correct me if I am wrong.
mauricio puebla
16th October, 2016, 08:36 AM
in such situation you can try to get erase password from websites offering this service. 2 options for you:
http://sonderhash.com/
http://app.wsctools.com/
I got similar situation,
w204 ESL repair... p.n. A 204 545 13 08
"CAN NOT FIND ERASE PASSWORD" screen pops up after couple minutes of calculation of erase EIS password. One had done recently without any problem.
Very frustrating, what to do in this case? Anybody had resolved this type of problem?
I had the KEY password calculated from the second try without a delay but still no Erase Password. I only needed to personalize the ESL after the repair.
But now I am 85% through with the job but stuck here.
Waiting to hear what their support has to say but from talking to them before it's like forget about it....
Question is: Can other tool like MBE or Abrites get that password for me from information that I get on the screen after the initial reading of EIS??
I think that sending a vvdi obd read file will not help here, need some sort of conversion, correct me if I am wrong.
CaioW
16th October, 2016, 07:16 PM
I just made W211 facelift. Once again the original key lost sync after the pass was calculated and had to desolder and renew it... It would've save me time and a token(although free) if I had just read the pass from key from the beginning...
Well it happen you just need to put the key into EZS and wait 5 minuts. Key will work again, dont need desolder NEC..
Fallen
17th October, 2016, 02:15 AM
Can anybody please explain the function of the blue alligator clip on the OBD lead?
I have read that it has to be connected to PIN 1 of the OBD under some circumstances but it's not made clear when.
Thanks
duplikeytor
17th October, 2016, 03:32 AM
Can anybody please explain the function of the blue alligator clip on the OBD lead?
I have read that it has to be connected to PIN 1 of the OBD under some circumstances but it's not made clear when.
Thanks
older models have Kline on pin 1, so if it fails to communicate to eis via OBD, clip that to pin 1 and try again.
fixanycar
17th October, 2016, 05:08 PM
Thanks
mauricio puebla (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/306004-mauricio-puebla)
How can I tell if they gonna provide me the ERASE password needed for the VVDI tool? I read what they offer, another mystery. A friend with MB Tool does not have a clue about Erase Pass.
Now, the support has not replied yet......
I had the key password calculated and while trying to get the erase password, forgot to save the key password, it happened 2 days ago. So, to get the password again, do I need to run password Acquisition again? if yes is it free for this VIN? Or I can pull it out from logs somewhere?
Another thing,
If I get another EIS for this w204, can and hopefully get it ERASED, can I reprogram it so it looks like original eis with all it's data? Reason is,.... I only have the EIS and ESL for this vehicle. Working on the bench.
Thanks
MarkPRP
17th October, 2016, 07:29 PM
Post special key
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fixanycar
17th October, 2016, 07:44 PM
504C7404D02CDB9C
MarkPRP
18th October, 2016, 08:40 AM
504C7404D02CDB9C
Check pm
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harberg
18th October, 2016, 11:00 AM
Hi,
Quick help is needed.
W203 i made two new keys. MB tool says ok. When I put new keys to EIS dash says "computing data, please wait". So new keys do not work. Any ideas?
Nassreddine84
18th October, 2016, 11:02 AM
Hi,
Quick help is needed.
W203 i made two new keys. MB tool says ok. When I put new keys to EIS dash says "computing data, please wait". So new keys do not work. Any ideas?
Wait 15 min and then check again
harberg
18th October, 2016, 11:21 AM
I kept the new key in EIS for 15min, still the same.
The problem is that I ~~~~ed up the old key and now either of the new keys work...
autoTkey
18th October, 2016, 12:00 PM
Try to program them on a used position. Are you using new chinese key or renewed original key?
harberg
18th October, 2016, 12:03 PM
New chinese. Those have worked fine before.
I will try to program to used position now. Thanks.
autoTkey
18th October, 2016, 01:03 PM
Also try with original renewed key if other methods fail. Chinese keys sometimes do this thing...
fixanycar
19th October, 2016, 04:50 AM
Thanks Mark!
1). Now, if it's not the right one, can you or I check?
2). If I enter it and try to flash eis and it is a wrong password, will the process stop before the flashing?
4). If writing does not stop, will I damage this eis beyond the repair?
5). Can I get the key pass from my key, rom57, without taking nec off?or any other way? I didn't save my server calculated key password, it was late at night, and I was sure i saved it.
Is it the same erase password for the ESL? Tried getting Erase pass for ESL -> no luck either.
Talking to support now, Samic engineer is extremely helpful.
Good news!
Friday they roll out a new update with the possibility of esl repair without the need to flash eis now. Let's wait patiently.
For now, erase password successful calculation probability is 90% ONLY...
AutoKeyGuy
19th October, 2016, 06:15 AM
Hi All,
The old car key is not syncing and not unlocking the ESL (have tried putting it in out of EIS multiple times and left it for periods of long time and still no luck)
I got the Password from the EEPROM dump but when I load the dump into the VVDI MB the software crashes. Any reason why the software is crashing when making the key file?
klychnik
19th October, 2016, 09:55 AM
Put dump EZS
Nassreddine84
19th October, 2016, 12:50 PM
Hi All,
The old car key is not syncing and not unlocking the ESL (have tried putting it in out of EIS multiple times and left it for periods of long time and still no luck)
I got the Password from the EEPROM dump but when I load the dump into the VVDI MB the software crashes. Any reason why the software is crashing when making the key file?
Check network connection and try again thanks
autoTkey
21st October, 2016, 08:10 AM
Tried pass calculation on an older W211 through IR with ROM40 - don't try it because key losses sync and you are left without working key and without PASS. If you gonna do it, do it through OBD2 or don't waste your time and do it with Xprog straight on.
habbyb
21st October, 2016, 09:09 AM
Tried pass calculation on an older W211 through IR with ROM40 - don't try it because key losses sync and you are left without working key and without PASS. If you gonna do it, do it through OBD2 or don't waste your time and do it with Xprog straight on.
Hello, the same it happened to me w211 ,rom 40 lost sync,after read with smok recovered org key and program with vvdi succesfull.
MarkPRP
21st October, 2016, 09:33 PM
Guys..
PASSWORD SEARCH FROM KEY IS FOR BGA AND NEC EIS ONLY
why you wasting your time on old cars that can be read in minutes and keys made for easy, so easy my son can do it..
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fixanycar
21st October, 2016, 09:43 PM
I agree with MarkPRP.
Mark, can you answer pm?
exSPEEDyTOR
21st October, 2016, 09:46 PM
+ MarkPRP
Remove EIS 2 min
Read EIS by VVDI prog 2 min
Calc key by SKC 10 min
Write key 1 min
15 minutes left it easy!
daxxer
21st October, 2016, 09:51 PM
+ MarkPRP
Remove EIS 2 min
Read EIS by VVDI prog 2 min
Calc key by SKC 10 min
Write key 1 min
15 minutes left it easy!
need update :) ;)
Remove EIS 2 min
Read EIS by VVDI prog 2 min
Calculate keys dumps by VVDI MB BGA tool 20-30 secs ;)
Write BE key 10 secs ;)
less then 10 minutes left it easy!
ttzag
21st October, 2016, 09:55 PM
Need another update
Remove eis for me ....1 min
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daxxer
21st October, 2016, 10:03 PM
Need another update
Remove eis for me ....1 min
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:D
when is for you enough 1 min from W204 or W251 for example, then i want to have ticket to 1st row ;)
duplikeytor
22nd October, 2016, 02:27 AM
How is remove EIS 1/2 minutes? What's the tricks here? There are these brackets behind that are hard to remove in USA/Canada. What am I missing?
daxxer
22nd October, 2016, 06:28 AM
How is remove EIS 1/2 minutes? What's the tricks here? There are these brackets behind that are hard to remove in USA/Canada. What am I missing?
Yes US models i want to see sure how to do in 1 mins :D
dikseln
22nd October, 2016, 06:45 AM
Sprinter 906 year 2008 spare key situation.
Try to read EIS via OBD ------- KO
Read EIS via IR------------------OK
Read pwd via IR ----------------ok (after 3 attempts)
Prepare BE key-------------------KO (the key open and close the doors, work in EIS but starter doesnt work)
Prepare another BE key---------KO The second key BE the same: starter KO.
Prepared key ver.57------------OK :)
I dont understand is BE not able for this EIS or .....???
This is the second case, we have the same experience with 164, starter worked 1sec and stoped immediately (the BE keys by another seller)
Anybody have similar experience with BE keys ?
daxxer
22nd October, 2016, 06:54 AM
Sprinter 906 year 2008 spare key situation.
Try to read EIS via OBD ------- KO
Read EIS via IR------------------OK
Read pwd via IR ----------------ok (after 3 attempts)
Prepare BE key-------------------KO (the key open and close the doors, work in EIS but starter doesnt work)
Prepare another BE key---------KO The second key BE the same: starter KO.
Prepared key ver.57------------OK :)
I dont understand is BE not able for this EIS or .....???
This is the second case, we have the same experience with 164, starter worked 1sec and stoped immediately (the BE keys by another seller)
Anybody have similar experience with BE keys ?
Try to read EIS via OBD ------- KO ....maybe you need use PIN1 of OBD plug to connect Kline there separately...as by W639 :listen:
Read EIS via IR------------------OK
Read pwd via IR ----------------ok (after 3 attempts)
Prepare BE key-------------------KO (the key open and close the doors, work in EIS but starter doesnt work)
Prepare another BE key---------KO The second key BE the same: starter KO.
Prepared key ver.57------------OK :)
i use BE keys from my source to more then 3 pcs of W906 and success, years 2010, 2012 and 2014 ;)
maybe you not right teached the key in all ignitions positions to all ecu units :listen:
need little time wait in each ignition position ;) i think you are only too fast to have result....
use DAS diagnostic to see all actual values about drive permission when try to teaching key to EZS
dikseln
22nd October, 2016, 07:36 AM
Try to read EIS via OBD ------- KO ....maybe you need use PIN1 of OBD plug to connect Kline there separately...as by W639 :listen:
maybe you not right teached the key in all ignitions positions to all ecu units :listen:
need little time wait in each ignition position ;) i think you are only too fast to have result....
use DAS diagnostic to see all actual values about drive permission when try to teaching key to EZS
Thank you for quick reply.
Yes, I agree, as for the pin1 is like W639.
About the BE keys, maybe is true maybe not. We live the same time for all the keys and in ver.57 work.
Anyway I think to test better the next case.
Thank you
daxxer
22nd October, 2016, 07:49 AM
Thank you for quick reply.
Yes, I agree, as for the pin1 is like W639.
About the BE keys, maybe is true maybe not. We live the same time for all the keys and in ver.57 work.
Anyway I think to test better the next case.
Thank you
in my key history about more then 100 pcs BE keys I haven't till today no any car where is installed FBS3 system no any problem with use BE key there :listen:
the oldest was W202 from 1997 and the newest W906 from 2014 ;)
harberg
22nd October, 2016, 10:33 AM
Try to program them on a used position. Are you using new chinese key or renewed original key?
This worked for one key, thanks!
I got car running but couldn't make second key. I tried all positions.
Interesting thing is that I fixed the old key but MB tool says it is unuse. Same happened with other w203 also. So old key doesn't work after reading password from key. "Computing data, please wait" and waiting doesn't help. What am I doing wrong?
giovani
22nd October, 2016, 12:36 PM
Added cables for W205 and W222,
I ask:
software for W205 will be released soon?
it seems to me that key W205 has different reading,
I did attempt to reading key chrome key W205 without success.
Nassreddine84
23rd October, 2016, 05:45 AM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161023/131c74e81b5a31018f3e77e13dd70854.jpg
Anybody knows where to find such like this third party eis with key PM plz thank u this used for w221 lost keys
emtec3
23rd October, 2016, 10:16 AM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161023/131c74e81b5a31018f3e77e13dd70854.jpg
Anybody knows where to find such like this third party eis with key PM plz thank u this used for w221 lost keys
eis which renew is necessary
artkiani
23rd October, 2016, 11:24 AM
i can't enable with mb vvdi
Please enable key my eis dump
W210
0D69J
thanks best regards
artkiani
23rd October, 2016, 12:57 PM
w210 enable key not work
daxxer
23rd October, 2016, 01:38 PM
w210 enable key not work
forget for key enabled !!! your EZS must be first personalised and activated !!! :listen:
your keys positions are not "disabled" in right word, but only show, when your EZS is not personalised and not activated = is now in "virgin" or "renewed" status, understand ? :listen:
daxxer
23rd October, 2016, 01:39 PM
eis which renew is necessary
have as used only A216.545.05.08 :listen: but without keys...only as part. :)
artkiani
23rd October, 2016, 01:47 PM
hi
ok daxxer
thanks
how to personalised and activated?
artkiani
23rd October, 2016, 02:10 PM
w210 eis renew failed
daxxer
23rd October, 2016, 02:19 PM
w210 eis renew failed
is renewed yet !!! can't be renewed again :listen:
can be now only personalised ( through write some keys and passwords data ) and activated ( through valid functional key ) :listen:
nothing more...
405612
artkiani
23rd October, 2016, 02:47 PM
is renewed yet !!! can't be renewed again :listen:
can be now only personalised ( through write some keys and passwords data ) and activated ( through valid functional key ) :listen:
nothing more...
405612
ok
thanks for help
try test and report
Jerry523
24th October, 2016, 02:00 AM
I need to know when next update v2.1.5 should come? Please anybody know that?
autoTkey
24th October, 2016, 07:41 AM
This worked for one key, thanks!
I got car running but couldn't make second key. I tried all positions.
Interesting thing is that I fixed the old key but MB tool says it is unuse. Same happened with other w203 also. So old key doesn't work after reading password from key. "Computing data, please wait" and waiting doesn't help. What am I doing wrong?
Try with a second hand original key. It should work 100% with it. Also, when it says "Computing data" don't interrupt it - leave it for some time(at least 10-15 minutes). If it still doesn't work try with removing and inserting the key a dozen of times. If still not working try again on another position and try with original second hand key. Daxxer here suggests you may need to leave the key in the ignition for a night in the car but I never had the nerve to wait that long.
daxxer
24th October, 2016, 08:18 AM
Try with a second hand original key. It should work 100% with it. Also, when it says "Computing data" don't interrupt it - leave it for some time(at least 10-15 minutes). If it still doesn't work try with removing and inserting the key a dozen of times. If still not working try again on another position and try with original second hand key. Daxxer here suggests you may need to leave the key in the ignition for a night in the car but I never had the nerve to wait that long.
for night not need ;) because so long is not described in the WIS for this step :) but everybody want to have the key teached in 1 secs :D
yes...your nerve to wait....everything must be in that moment :listen:
autocheck
24th October, 2016, 07:17 PM
Samic, Any solution coming soon for all key lost on W221?
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klychnik
25th October, 2016, 08:27 AM
exchange EIS
autoTkey
26th October, 2016, 06:59 AM
Recently I bumped into a W220 2001. The original key stopped working after car battery change. I couldn't get any communication working with this car - neither by IR, nor by OBD2. There's an alarm sounding all the time, too(I'm not sure if it is original or aftermarket one). Could someone give me a hint what to do? If I program a new key directly by eeprom will it work? It seems like there's no power to the EZS at all. The fuses were fine but didn't have the tool to check the 12V line...
vikx
26th October, 2016, 11:01 AM
Hello! Can anyone please help me with the following:
1.- MB 221 - 2012 year of production – EIS 216 905 00 00
Cannot read via IR either on the car, or on the bench (only OBD) , so cannot renew it.
2.-E212 - 2013 year of production – cannot reduce mileage. Dumps, flash, EEPROM for ZGV are attached
Thanks in advance
hbt
26th October, 2016, 11:13 PM
I also have problems with a w211.
Connected all on bench read pass all ok program new key works also. After few days want to check again and orginal key lose sync with ezs.
djollie
27th October, 2016, 06:20 AM
hi
i have a Mercedes W220 S-CLASS S430 L with a damaged eis, can i programme a used eis to this car with mb tool.
thanks
dj
daxxer
27th October, 2016, 07:02 AM
hi
i have a Mercedes W220 S-CLASS S430 L with a damaged eis, can i programme a used eis to this car with mb tool.
thanks
dj
how is the old EZS damaged ? :) can you read EEPROM's and write content to other one used ( the same part number better ) ? this is the best and easy way... :listen:
Frankcar
27th October, 2016, 07:21 AM
Why can't renew version 57 with new NEC adapter key ?
anyone have problem with new adapter key?
lpf01
27th October, 2016, 09:41 AM
on mine renew works ok, but car wont sync with v57 keys, yesterday made a w203, read ir via OBD, make 2 new keys with nec adapter, and after a lot of waiting and try to insert key several times still just calculating.
Keys made with MB key prog worked on second insertion.
Frankcar
27th October, 2016, 10:13 AM
Do team VVDI direct work on customers cars ? or they are work with simulator and feedback users ?
MaxMin
27th October, 2016, 04:35 PM
Do team VVDI direct work on customers cars ? or they are work with simulator and feedback users ?
very good question Frankcar. i see xhorse tim again make some new tool,and not work in tool vvdi2 and mbvvdi for solved milions bugs!!
xhorse tim lost time for new tool not for update and correction bugs in old tool!
PremierD
27th October, 2016, 05:43 PM
very good question Frankcar. i see xhorse tim again make some new tool,and not work in tool vvdi2 and mbvvdi for solved milions bugs!!
xhorse tim lost time for new tool not for update and correction bugs in old tool!
:hmmmm:................................
badenaleks
28th October, 2016, 07:22 AM
Hello friends ! Need help change mileage in EZS W164, I have a few questions, I can with the date but not having to write down the password file after the change? Who did such a procedure?If someone has a step by step guide, I will be very grateful!
daxxer
28th October, 2016, 07:42 AM
Hello friends ! Need help change mileage in EZS W164, I have a few questions, I can with the date but not having to write down the password file after the change? Who did such a procedure?If someone has a step by step guide, I will be very grateful!
Forget :D VVDI is not mainly as TACHO tool, but KEY tool ;) :listen:
badenaleks
28th October, 2016, 07:59 AM
I have Mercedes Instrument but need open one option for read and write odo on EZS W164 , W216 , W251 , W221 price just $279 ! I just asq because I have both tools. Ok I open option for MB instrument !
badenaleks
28th October, 2016, 08:05 AM
Unfortunately while I was only disappointed in the purchase !!! VVDI lot of things can not be!
badenaleks
28th October, 2016, 08:19 AM
But why not work this option ?
If I use one token for found password , after change odo in data and write EIS data . Why not ?
Who can tell me ?
Daxxer why not ? Did you try ?
daxxer
28th October, 2016, 08:26 AM
Unfortunately while I was only disappointed in the purchase !!! VVDI lot of things can not be!
this function work, but in dash, not in EZS :)
badenaleks
28th October, 2016, 08:39 AM
Not work I check !!!
PremierD
28th October, 2016, 08:51 AM
at a guess mate .. I'd say that's because the higher value is still in the EZS .. so it just changes it back again ... mind you it's just a guess :)
badenaleks
28th October, 2016, 08:54 AM
I tell you , I check and not work W164 !
Dash noting change when I use this option .
This funсtion not work .
Maybe it fake ?
badenaleks
28th October, 2016, 09:06 AM
Ok if I try renew EIS ! Can I write after new value odo ?
Because need know , what can VVDI do ?
Maybe I just lose my money and time ?
autoTkey
28th October, 2016, 09:21 AM
If you bought it to just change odometer values - then you definitely are losing somebody's time.
badenaleks
28th October, 2016, 09:34 AM
I thought working all the options! I bought it to to Use all the options! It is necessary to correct and warn customers not to talk about what works and actually cheat.Remove all of the program options are not working! Do not deceive me, and customers!
mercis
28th October, 2016, 09:41 AM
you need other tool for dash(fvdi.avdi)xhorse newer told " odo justage" tool
AutoKeyGuy
28th October, 2016, 03:26 PM
Hey Everyone,
Thanks to Daxxer and the Xhorse team I was able to make a key for a old W203 (no keys). The reason why the new key was not synching back to the EIS is because the flash of the EIS was corrupted (Mask:3K91D)
Tip: only use high quality programmer as some delete both the flash and EEPROM when reading this mask (3K91D). I completed this job with the VVDI Prog.
I then found a good flash on DK and wrote the flash back to the EIS and made a key from the EEPROM. Key didn't sync in seconds, but it synced after a few minutes so bit of patience is needed. But end result successful key was made for customer. I am happy
labusas
28th October, 2016, 08:52 PM
Please someone have an idea what's happening.
Made a new key for 705 MCU file.
Car is 1999 E320 W210.
New key inserted, I heard stearing unlock and stays Unlocked.
Key will not turn in EZS, Key LED lights up for couple seconds and then starts blinking.
EZS gives out good key hashes via IR.
Changed to another EZS by resoldered both original MCU on it, same symptom.
Made anohter key, same symptom
Thanks very much
labusas
28th October, 2016, 09:01 PM
I'll attach EZS internal MCU file to check.
Could if be that the other outer MCU data is corrupt ( I didn't check it) and causing it.
obeids
28th October, 2016, 09:08 PM
Hi there.
Got a client with a W203. The ECU has no communications. Client bought used ECU. Can VVDI help adapt the W203 Ecu or not?
daxxer
28th October, 2016, 09:37 PM
Hi there.
Got a client with a W203. The ECU has no communications. Client bought used ECU. Can VVDI help adapt the W203 Ecu or not?
are sure ECU problem ? :listen:
VVDI can maybe renew ECU, but adapt you must under DAS/Xentry only...
daxxer
29th October, 2016, 12:58 PM
i have little dreaming and then little playing with original VVDI EZS/EIS cable adapter for reading on bench from W164/W251 - EZS/EIS units. :)
because condition for reading by W164 EZS unit are the same as by W211-W169-W209-W203 (W203 newer type from 2003 up), then i upgrade
this W164 EZS cable adapter with plug for W211 EZS type and plug for ESL unit suitable to this older EZS type... ;)
need now only as by W164 EZS have connected some CGW/ZGW unit ( like gateway ), can be anyone used, in this case is his function only as basis
simple interface for converting CAN-C to CAN-B and then can be this EZS units readed by VVDI MB BGA tool on bench :listen:
reworked-updated-upgraded adapter working like a charm :D tested on EZS from W211 part number A211.545.09.08 with 1L85D on the PCB :listen:
406950
who want create this upgrade too, there are wiring pinout of both EZS for info, what cable need to connected where to :listen:
406948 406949
obeids
29th October, 2016, 06:49 PM
are sure ECU problem ? :listen:
VVDI can maybe renew ECU, but adapt you must under DAS/Xentry only...
HI.
Yes confirmed ECU damaged. No comms on old ECU. When put new ECU there is communication but car don't crank.
So can VVDI renew ECU in car by OBD or need to connect direct to ECU?
I got MB Star C3 so I guess once it is virgin we can adapt it with MB Star
daxxer
29th October, 2016, 07:05 PM
HI.
Yes confirmed ECU damaged. No comms on old ECU. When put new ECU there is communication but car don't crank.
So can VVDI renew ECU in car by OBD or need to connect direct to ECU?
I got MB Star C3 so I guess once it is virgin we can adapt it with MB Star
better to renew on the table without car.... :listen:
daxxer
29th October, 2016, 07:10 PM
I'll attach EZS internal MCU file to check.
Could if be that the other outer MCU data is corrupt ( I didn't check it) and causing it.
when you are not sure, then need to have both MCU's content to check... :listen:
Samic
1st November, 2016, 03:47 AM
I tell you , I check and not work W164 !
Dash noting change when I use this option .
This funсtion not work .
Maybe it fake ?
friend,about VVDI MB TOOL change KM,should change KM in Dash.(renew eis then re-write again,EIS will change to '0',then auto sync)
please tell me which KM value you write in and not work(show me the software prompted).send me the log i will check and help you.
Nassreddine84
1st November, 2016, 11:58 AM
Hi mates i am trying to do eis adaptation for w211 st12
Renew second hand eis OK
read old eis via OBD OK
write old vin to new eis OK
Write old eis data to new eis OK
Insert key for activation esl unlock OK
Ignition on OK car not start
Remote working OK
Any idea why engine not start ??
autokeyca
4th November, 2016, 02:56 PM
Hi guys, I'm new to this tool, so please forgive any stupid questions.
I have to do an all keys lost for X204 2014. How long should it take to extract PW?
Can it be done only on the bench or on vehicle?
If on the bench do i need only the EZS module, or anything else from the vehicle?
CaioW
4th November, 2016, 04:32 PM
Hi guys, I'm new to this tool, so please forgive any stupid questions.
I have to do an all keys lost for X204 2014. How long should it take to extract PW?
Can it be done only on the bench or on vehicle?
If on the bench do i need only the EZS module, or anything else from the vehicle?
Better do in bench, because you will need about 3 hours to take out the password.
You just need EZS to do the job, with the correct cables.
gurmk
4th November, 2016, 08:09 PM
For info WDD207 "E Class"
Tried to do a spare key on 2014 W207, no go.
Could not read the key
Could not read EIS via OBD or IR
solitaire
4th November, 2016, 08:59 PM
For info WDD207 "E Class"
Tried to do a spare key on 2014 W207, no go.
Could not read the key
Could not read EIS via OBD or IR
maybe its FBS4
yui
4th November, 2016, 10:04 PM
maybe its FBS4
--------------------
100%
2014 is fbs4
daxxer
5th November, 2016, 07:59 AM
Yesterday try to replaced EIS in W212 with other used one, not exactly the same part number, but with help of EPC was replaceable :listen:
Orig EIS + 1 key functional (orig EIS have some malfuctionals, sometime ok, sometime not, but all keys data readable yet)
calculation key password online, get erase password success - all data saved ;)
other used one EIS from scrapyard, no any keys, then through step: W212 all key lost to get key password, get erase password - all success ;)
then renew this EIS with all valid passwords - success
read all EIS data from orig part and as first write VIN, then write all key data ( the process is almost the same as when teaching ELV or Emulator unit to W204)
use orig key and NEW EIS is success activated ;)
all work with both EIS are on the table, without car !!!
put new(used) EIS back to the car and need little time wait for key recalculating to car, then turn to first ignition position and again wait for recalculating....
at end turn to 2nd ignition lights OK, again wait for recalculating in ECU, after message away try turn key to start - car start, all okey
remote lock/unlock work, no any problems...
all work was on W212 from 2009 year with ELV steering locking unit
daxxer
5th November, 2016, 09:19 PM
hi,
can I get password for this archyves?
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/492206-VVDI-MB-BGA-TOOL?p=2836753&viewfull=1#post2836753
thanks+rep added
thanks!
sure mate ;) .....but... :listen:
The following errors occurred with your submission
solitaire has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space.
solitaire
5th November, 2016, 09:27 PM
Sorry, now is ok
daxxer
5th November, 2016, 09:57 PM
Sorry, now is ok
PM to you now send successfully ;)
Nassreddine84
8th November, 2016, 02:03 PM
Hi mates w906 sprinter 2007 need add key vvdi can not read eis data by obd position 00 any idea
kevfield
8th November, 2016, 02:07 PM
Hi mates w906 sprinter 2007 need add key vvdi can not read eis data by obd position 00 any idea
Correct it can not, remove eis and read mcu .
Thanks Kev
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daxxer
8th November, 2016, 07:10 PM
Correct it can not, remove eis and read mcu .
Thanks Kev
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on W906 you can read EIS data by IR adapter, when you calculate pass by online process, then enough for calculate keys dumps :listen:
Nassreddine84
8th November, 2016, 07:36 PM
on W906 you can read EIS data by IR adapter, when you calculate pass by online process, then enough for calculate keys dumps :listen:
Thank u daxxer
thebigk
9th November, 2016, 09:51 PM
After two months, still no success with VVDI MB and reading and renewing ECU. I have contacted vvdishop, they just sent me new cables...not sure what the problem is. Perhaps North America Mercedes ECU are not compatible?
smayer
9th November, 2016, 11:37 PM
After two months, still no success with VVDI MB and reading and renewing ECU. I have contacted vvdishop, they just sent me new cables...not sure what the problem is. Perhaps North America Mercedes ECU are not compatible?
You don?t need spetial cables, use obd cable and connect to ecu
daxxer
10th November, 2016, 07:00 AM
After two months, still no success with VVDI MB and reading and renewing ECU. I have contacted vvdishop, they just sent me new cables...not sure what the problem is. Perhaps North America Mercedes ECU are not compatible?
where are you from ? :) check some other VVDI MB owner near you and try it with his unit.... :listen:
jacostanzo
10th November, 2016, 10:19 AM
Anybody had troubles reading password from v51? I tried to read password from one working key v51, password read succesfuly but after that stop working, try to renew key with VVDI no succes. Have to use other tool to renew and write again for get key working again.
daxxer
10th November, 2016, 12:25 PM
Anybody had troubles reading password from v51? I tried to read password from one working key v51, password read succesfuly but after that stop working, try to renew key with VVDI no succes. Have to use other tool to renew and write again for get key working again.
this is not trouble, the key from where you read the pass need after reprogramm with new dump again, as new key, then working back again :listen:
jacostanzo
10th November, 2016, 12:47 PM
this is not trouble, the key from where you read the pass need after reprogramm with new dump again, as new key, then working back again :listen:
I tried that, like I said in the post, but VVDI can't renew key, I have to use another tool for the job. So all v51 after reading password has to be renewed and write with new file??
duplikeytor
10th November, 2016, 02:52 PM
Did you use adaptor or solder nec to renew?
jacostanzo
10th November, 2016, 03:27 PM
Did you use adaptor or solder nec to renew?
Don't have adaptor, solder to read/renew
vageric
10th November, 2016, 03:36 PM
this is indeed a problem with vvdi yes.
had same problem with v57.
i dont think its good solution to use a new key slot every time after read psw from working key
do get key working again.
autoTkey
10th November, 2016, 04:04 PM
No need to use new slot - use the same slot. And for renew use the adaptor - it works better and much easier. There's no problem to renew original keys with it.
vageric
11th November, 2016, 07:36 AM
No need to use new slot - use the same slot. And for renew use the adaptor - it works better and much easier. There's no problem to renew original keys with it.
i had 2 ver 57 key that i read the psw from and after i could'nt sync key back to the car.
it kept telling calc but would'nt sync.
had to use new slot and was ok.
autoTkey
11th November, 2016, 08:01 AM
Did you go straight to psw extraction from key or you tried to extract with a token first? What I'm thinking is - it's best to generate a key on a used position right after you read the hashes and not to read the hashes then do something else on the car and then generate and try to sync. Also after you generate it you must leave it for some time, then if it still doesn't work you have to reinsert it 10-15 times. Also sometimes it helps to press a button on the remote while trying to turn the key. It has worked for me.
milanocito
11th November, 2016, 11:41 PM
to buy this tool or not ?
what u say ?
solitaire
12th November, 2016, 04:08 AM
w221 (BGA) add spare key - ok
was needed generate 3 acquisition files
daxxer
12th November, 2016, 08:34 AM
w221 (BGA) add spare key - ok
was needed generate 3 acquisition files
yes, sometime not enough only one time to acquisition data collect :listen:
benzgeek
15th November, 2016, 12:59 AM
Unblocking w204 ESL needs 2XXXXXXXXX try's each try is a second so how many days we need to unblock w204 ESL ??
kevfield
15th November, 2016, 01:57 AM
over Night and it will be unlocked..
Thanks Kev
jacostanzo
15th November, 2016, 10:28 AM
Unblocking w204 ESL needs 2XXXXXXXXX try's each try is a second so how many days we need to unblock w204 ESL ??
I have done 4 until now, and no more than 40 min, the less he tooks was 3 min.
milanocito
15th November, 2016, 07:36 PM
no one can answer please ?
to buy this tool or not ?
what u say ?
PremierD
15th November, 2016, 07:55 PM
Yes mate .... buy it ..... or don't buy it ... it's your choice alone .... :)
milanocito
15th November, 2016, 08:00 PM
i mean if i buy it it will do the job ,,,,?
PremierD
15th November, 2016, 08:02 PM
I have not got a scooby mate ... just read ... and decide
drivesure
16th November, 2016, 09:48 AM
today i solved a problem with steering lock and eis which lost sync. i contacted one of our members on dk Daxxer and he guided me with excellent suggestions on how to solve the problems. thank you
milanocito
16th November, 2016, 07:58 PM
i,m new to this job keys ,,,, that is hard to decide
maybe u can say something or ...
thnkxxxx
autocheck
17th November, 2016, 05:57 AM
Facelift W203, W209 and W211 all key lost please Samic do something about it.
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gedas8899
17th November, 2016, 07:55 AM
hello daxxer i have w169 and i need add one more key. so i need read acquisition data from key and calculate pasword. but what about working key after read pasword he stops working?
daxxer
17th November, 2016, 08:04 AM
hello daxxer i have w169 and i need add one more key. so i need read acquisition data from key and calculate pasword. but what about working key after read pasword he stops working?
i don't understand exactly what you doing ? W169 EIS enough only read MCU eeprom directly and from dump calculate keys ;) thats enough :listen:
solitaire
17th November, 2016, 09:20 AM
Facelift W203, W209 and W211 all key lost please Samic do something about it.
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try read password by IR
https://youtu.be/pktIeVV0JwA
daxxer
17th November, 2016, 09:32 AM
try read password by IR
https://youtu.be/pktIeVV0JwA
pass through IR only some EZS/EIS, mainly the larger type in W203 year 2000-2002, some W220/215 and so... :)
almost only when seat HC08 inside :listen:
gedas8899
17th November, 2016, 10:17 AM
So if i want add key no need read pasword from working key? Can you explain i new with this tool.
thanks, if i good understand i need chose read by IR not OBD. I will try.
autoTkey
17th November, 2016, 11:02 AM
For W169 you have the following options:
- calculate the pass with a TOKEN
- get pass from working key if it is v51/v57
- get pass by EEPROM method from EIS
You CANNOT get pass by IR on that car. IR method works only on old(before year 2004) K-line cars and not on all of them.
gedas8899
17th November, 2016, 11:13 AM
Yes iam understand, but question after calculation pasword from working key token metod, original key works or i need renew and program one more time?
becouse car is far away so i want to be sure.
solitaire
17th November, 2016, 11:31 AM
Yes iam understand, but question after calculation pasword from working key token metod, original key works or i need renew and program one more time?
becouse car is far away so i want to be sure.
Old (original) key need reprogram if you use get password from key v51/57
if calculate via token, original key keeps working
hkcarkey
17th November, 2016, 01:52 PM
Dear m8, I tried to get the erase password from server but failed, could anyone help to calculate the password? thanks in advance
410496
klychnik
17th November, 2016, 03:27 PM
Password is calculated only from your device.
habbyb
17th November, 2016, 04:12 PM
Hello everyone . It is someone who has done on the table W212 all key lost .Thanks
ant21000
17th November, 2016, 05:57 PM
Dear m8, I tried to get the erase password from server but failed, could anyone help to calculate the password? thanks in advance
daxxer
17th November, 2016, 06:17 PM
Hello everyone . It is someone who has done on the table W212 all key lost .Thanks
here for example :listen:
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/492206-VVDI-MB-BGA-TOOL?p=2884749&viewfull=1#post2884749
daxxer
17th November, 2016, 06:18 PM
Dear m8, I tried to get the erase password from server but failed, could anyone help to calculate the password? thanks in advance
how many times you do acqui-data and result was failed ? :listen:
hkcarkey
17th November, 2016, 06:30 PM
thanks but no password in the file?
hkcarkey
17th November, 2016, 06:31 PM
how many times you do acqui-data and result was failed ? :listen:
tried around 1x times still no luck.......
daxxer
17th November, 2016, 07:06 PM
tried around 1x times still no luck.......
you must have everything fast only in one time ? :D
in this case 1 time acqi-data not enough, must again to do it...don't await it only in first time ;)
P.S. for THANKS use THANKS button :listen:
daxxer
17th November, 2016, 07:08 PM
Password is calculated only from your device.
erase pass is calculated only from special key, named as dealer hash too :listen:
have nothing to with any VVDI device ;)
ant21000
17th November, 2016, 08:13 PM
Dear, more that 10 times yet
ant21000
17th November, 2016, 08:14 PM
how many times you do acqui-data and result was failed ? :listen:
Friend, more that 10 time yet
obeids
17th November, 2016, 08:18 PM
Hi there Guys
Have a W164 EIS. All keys lost. How read EIS on VVDI and make key?
I connected EIS with the OBD cables but it's not reading any data from EIS. Any suggestions?
daxxer
17th November, 2016, 08:19 PM
Friend, more that 10 time yet
sry, i think when you try to calculate key pass :D
when not get erase pass success, then you have no luck, only 80% of all EIS you can get erase pass success... :listen:
ant21000
17th November, 2016, 08:45 PM
sry, i think when you try to calculate key pass :D
when not get erase pass success, then you have no luck, only 80% of all EIS you can get erase pass success... :listen:
Thanks for aswer :apologetic::apologetic::apologetic::apologetic: But I get tthe Key pass, but no the erase pass
daxxer
17th November, 2016, 08:59 PM
Thanks for aswer :apologetic::apologetic::apologetic::apologetic: But I get tthe Key pass, but no the erase pass
what next step you want to do ? :listen:
simaservis1108
17th November, 2016, 09:11 PM
Hi there Guys
Have a W164 EIS. All keys lost. How read EIS on VVDI and make key?
I connected EIS with the OBD cables but it's not reading any data from EIS. Any suggestions?
Without Gateway I think ML W164 is impossible to read.
ant21000
17th November, 2016, 09:22 PM
[QUOTE=daxxer;2893582]what next step you want to do ? :listen:[/QUO
Renew EIS for add a ELV emulator my friend!!
autokeyca
18th November, 2016, 01:23 AM
Hello guys,
W216 ---> All Keys Lost
I have the EZS in hand.
W221 OBD head cable (2 EIS connectors + power) allows read EIS no problem. But when I try data acquisition, fails to read.
---> Any Solution?
daxxer
18th November, 2016, 08:12 AM
Hello guys,
W216 ---> All Keys Lost
I have the EZS in hand.
W221 OBD head cable (2 EIS connectors + power) allows read EIS no problem. But when I try data acquisition, fails to read.
---> Any Solution?
till today no any solution for W221/216 all key lost... :dontknow:
solitaire
18th November, 2016, 12:41 PM
till today no any solution for W221/216 all key lost... :dontknow:
what solution?
replace EIS (with key) and renew ECU, gearbox, ISM?
daxxer
18th November, 2016, 07:08 PM
what solution?
replace EIS (with key) and renew ECU, gearbox, ISM?
renew ECU, ETC and ISM ??? its very much work... :listen:
solitaire
18th November, 2016, 08:03 PM
renew ECU, ETC and ISM ??? its very much work... :listen:
what solution, if we have W221/216 all key lost?
vageric
18th November, 2016, 09:40 PM
dealer quicker solution and cheaper too.
autokeyca
20th November, 2016, 07:15 PM
till today no any solution for W221/216 all key lost... :dontknow:
I extracted PW today on W216 with Abrites. It's a very long process as you have to insert and take out the IR adapter for every try, but it worked eventually.
jacostanzo
21st November, 2016, 01:09 PM
Just for info:
Spare key for 204 from 2013 - OK need 3 acquisition data +/- 5 min each acquistion
Spare key for 211 from 2007 with motorola ezs and bga key - OK need 3 acquisition data +/- 4 min each acquisiton
Spare key for old 639 can't read password by IR, have tried about 6 times no succes, working key was a version 40, I was lazzy to make spare key in old fashion way (remove EZS), so I have tried calculation password, select w639 2009 - OK need only 1 acquisition data, 5 min acquisition
daxxer
21st November, 2016, 02:37 PM
Just for info:
Spare key for 204 from 2013 - OK need 3 acquisition data +/- 5 min each acquistion
Spare key for 211 from 2007 with motorola ezs and bga key - OK need 3 acquisition data +/- 4 min each acquisiton
Spare key for old 639 can't read password by IR, have tried about 6 times no succes, working key was a version 40, I was lazzy to make spare key in old fashion way (remove EZS), so I have tried calculation password, select w639 2009 - OK need only 1 acquisition data, 5 min acquisition
W204...ok
W211 you can only remove EZS, open it and read MCU directly.. :listen:
W639 you can the same process as by W211 too... :listen:
for W211 and W639 you don't need any tokens then, when you read both MCU directly ;) not with online calculation
jacostanzo
21st November, 2016, 03:13 PM
W204...ok
W211 you can only remove EZS, open it and read MCU directly.. :listen:
W639 you can the same process as by W211 too... :listen:
for W211 and W639 you don't need any tokens then, when you read both MCU directly ;) not with online calculation
I know my friend, but like I said I get lazy with this tool :chuncky:
I prefer to do without remove, and tokens are not a problem for me, I had free tokens :celticparty:
obeids
21st November, 2016, 08:25 PM
Hi there Guys
Have a W164 EIS. All keys lost. How read EIS on VVDI and make key?
I connected EIS with the OBD cables but it's not reading any data from EIS. Any suggestions?
Ok......
So we need gateway Module?
How to connect Gateway Module? I have the EIS cable set for VVDI. I see the W164 has 3 connectors. So 2 go into EIS and 3rd is for ESL or for gateway?
Can somebody give me a hint where to find the gateway module because I need to send somebody to remove it from vehicle as vehicle is far from me.
For future would it better to buy the new Gateway plug that I see is available on the vvdishop? Would I still need gateway or no more if I use that plug?
Really appreciate your help guys
kevfield
21st November, 2016, 08:36 PM
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Yes a little bit like this , thanks to daxxer for all his help
Thanks Kev
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daxxer
21st November, 2016, 08:43 PM
Yes a little bit like this , thanks to daxxer for all his help
Thanks Kev
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yes, the gateway module can be anyone used....from W211, W251 or from W164 :listen:
kevfield
21st November, 2016, 08:47 PM
Yes in photo gateway is from W211
Thanks Kev
obeids
21st November, 2016, 08:57 PM
yes, the gateway module can be anyone used....from W211, W251 or from W164 :listen:
Thanks a milliom guys.
Any idea where in the Vehicle is the Gateway on the W164?
As I said I need to send somebody so would best if I could give him and idea of location in vehicle. If I was going myself I wouldn't mind searching the entire car.
Is it easy to remove?
Thanks alot
kevfield
21st November, 2016, 09:00 PM
Ok but i am not sure what your planing on doing once you can read data ??? are you making a spare key for the car ?
Thanks Kev
Brat
21st November, 2016, 11:49 PM
Thanks a milliom guys.
Any idea where in the Vehicle is the Gateway on the W164?
As I said I need to send somebody so would best if I could give him and idea of location in vehicle. If I was going myself I wouldn't mind searching the entire car.
Is it easy to remove?
Thanks alot
Cgw in w164 is under driver seat, you must remove driver seat and plastic for heat and you see cgw and music ammplifir.
exotictoys
22nd November, 2016, 07:04 AM
just received my vvdi mb today, after numerous attempts to get an answer from samic as to what keys i need to get (ny usa) to start making keys, he said he's not sure...so i'm still without an answer. does anyone know what keys i need to get? i tried ir reading a few of my customer keys and got key version 78 & 75 original mb key....haven't read anything in the manual regarding these keys. i'm very new to this so any help will be much appreciated.
daxxer
22nd November, 2016, 07:46 AM
just received my vvdi mb today, after numerous attempts to get an answer from samic as to what keys i need to get (ny usa) to start making keys, he said he's not sure...so i'm still without an answer. does anyone know what keys i need to get? i tried ir reading a few of my customer keys and got key version 78 & 75 original mb key....haven't read anything in the manual regarding these keys. i'm very new to this so any help will be much appreciated.
try to more easy specify your initial question mate ;)
autoTkey
22nd November, 2016, 07:46 AM
VVDI is not demanding about keys. Just get some original second hand keys or almost any chinese key...
daxxer
22nd November, 2016, 07:47 AM
Cgw in w164 is under driver seat, you must remove driver seat and plastic for heat and you see cgw and music ammplifir.
for this work is enough anyone CGW unit from scrapyard...must not be only the one from the same car...understand ? ;)
exotictoys
22nd November, 2016, 07:52 AM
my initial question for now is can be keys work for me? can i make keys and what frequency do i need to get... i've been getting conflicting information.
autoTkey
22nd November, 2016, 08:11 AM
What did you not understand from my post? Almost all keys can work. BE work great. Used keys from scrapyard are also good but more expensive.
daxxer
22nd November, 2016, 08:36 AM
What did you not understand from my post? Almost all keys can work. BE work great. Used keys from scrapyard are also good but more expensive.
yes...yes....yes...used keys from scrapyard are more expensive then NEW BE keys...and are more work with them... :listen:
only exception are KeylessGo keys....this you can get only from Mr.Daimler or from scrapyard...when are in usable condition yet ;)
exotictoys
22nd November, 2016, 08:45 AM
thanks to daxxer i have the answers i was looking for.
exotictoys
22nd November, 2016, 09:27 AM
What did you not understand from my post? Almost all keys can work. BE work great. Used keys from scrapyard are also good but more expensive.
i do have original mb keys but i was told it can't work from vvdi tech...this is why i said i'm getting conflicting information(why don't you read my POST). if you have a sure process please let me know. yes i order be key both 315 and 433.
hkcarkey
22nd November, 2016, 10:21 AM
i do have original mb keys but i was told it can't work from vvdi tech...this is why i said i'm getting conflicting information(why don't you read my POST). if you have a sure process please let me know. yes i order be key both 315 and 433.
original MB keys have to be renew before you write new data on it, but don't worry, vvdi can do the job.
Fec001
22nd November, 2016, 10:54 AM
Can the VVDI MB tool reset/write km in EZS with NEC mcu?
obeids
22nd November, 2016, 11:43 AM
for this work is enough anyone CGW unit from scrapyard...must not be only the one from the same car...understand ? ;)
Thans Kev and Daxxer
Would you suggest I buy a gateway from Scrapyard or better to buy the plug which available on VVDI Shop?
EDIT:>... Would this work? Seems cheap for the price.
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Thanks
habbyb
22nd November, 2016, 04:15 PM
hello everyone . I need help ,if anybody knows I have a w207 EZS with elv damage bat key original is version 62 can extract password from working key, we must obtain key password version ,,all key lost ??? Thanks
obeids
22nd November, 2016, 04:23 PM
Just and update Daxxer and KEV.
I went to the vehicle and removed the Gateway. Was easy to find with you help.
I now connected it and it reads on VVDI. But how to I get key password? It's all keys lost!!!
habbyb
22nd November, 2016, 05:19 PM
Hi there Guys
Have a W164 EIS. All keys lost. How read EIS on VVDI and make key?
I connected EIS with the OBD cables but it's not reading any data from EIS. Any suggestions?
Hello, the simplest is read ezs with programmer exaple smok.
giovani
22nd November, 2016, 11:04 PM
HI.DAXXER.
HOW TO READ THE EZS 210/202/208 PASSWORD HC05 MOTOROLA WITH VVDI MB BGA,
I HAVE TRIED WITH IR , BUT WITHOUT RESULTS.
THANKS.
Nassreddine84
22nd November, 2016, 11:06 PM
hello everyone . I need help ,if anybody knows I have a w207 EZS with elv damage bat key original is version 62 can extract password from working key, we must obtain key password version ,,all key lost ??? Thanks
Only ROM 51 and 57 can get the password through otherwise data acquisition and 1 token thanks
daxxer
23rd November, 2016, 07:16 AM
HI.DAXXER.
HOW TO READ THE EZS 210/202/208 PASSWORD HC05 MOTOROLA WITH VVDI MB BGA,
I HAVE TRIED WITH IR , BUT WITHOUT RESULTS.
THANKS.
EZS with HC05 not possible to get pass through IR, only EZS with HC08 you can get, for example W203 year 2000-2002 and other EZS from this data production and HC08 inside :listen:
Fallen
23rd November, 2016, 07:25 AM
I think my IR reader is playing up.
On some cars, it starts to read the EIS data but then stops and very quickly displays "remove adapter and re-insert" then keeps trying to read.
The massage only stays for a blink of an eye, very hard to read.
If I remove and re-insert it reads a small amount then I have to repeat.
On some cars it takes 50+ remove and re-insert to get to 100% and quite often it does not read correctly.
Is this normal?
habbyb
23rd November, 2016, 09:53 AM
Hollo, I need help please i have w207 with elv damage have pass key and pass ezs bat i can write VIN . Thanks
Nassreddine84
23rd November, 2016, 02:33 PM
Hollo, I need help please i have w207 with elv damage have pass key and pass ezs bat i can write VIN . Thanks
Vin number must be written by obd and not ir
Nassreddine84
23rd November, 2016, 02:34 PM
I think my IR reader is playing up.
On some cars, it starts to read the EIS data but then stops and very quickly displays "remove adapter and re-insert" then keeps trying to read.
The massage only stays for a blink of an eye, very hard to read.
If I remove and re-insert it reads a small amount then I have to repeat.
On some cars it takes 50+ remove and re-insert to get to 100% and quite often it does not read correctly.
Is this normal?
Yes in some eis like hc05 this can happen it is not the ir adaptor u need to remove chip and read it by adapter for password calculation thanks
Fallen
23rd November, 2016, 03:13 PM
I had this issue on a W164 using a BGA key today, defiantly did not have a HC05 in it.
I had a good look at the IR reader and the white plug inside the case was half falling out so I cracked the case open and melted the connector together.
I'm hoping this was the cause of the failure.
autolabor
23rd November, 2016, 04:22 PM
Hello, the simplest is read ezs with programmer exaple smok.
Do you use SMOK bdm jtag (JG0006,07) for password and prepare key file whit VVDi MB?
obeids
23rd November, 2016, 05:36 PM
Hello, the simplest is read ezs with programmer exaple smok.
This is W164 2009+.
I don't think this one have 3L40K. It has newer type MCU. If put any key the ignition will turn, but nothing come on DASH. Old type EIS will not turn without correct key.
If anybody has some solution / idea please let me know as this is all keys lost situation.
Thanks alot
daxxer
23rd November, 2016, 06:53 PM
I had this issue on a W164 using a BGA key today, defiantly did not have a HC05 in it.
I had a good look at the IR reader and the white plug inside the case was half falling out so I cracked the case open and melted the connector together.
I'm hoping this was the cause of the failure.
W164 and HC05 there ??????? are sure ? ;)
daxxer
23rd November, 2016, 06:53 PM
This is W164 2009+.
I don't think this one have 3L40K. It has newer type MCU. If put any key the ignition will turn, but nothing come on DASH. Old type EIS will not turn without correct key.
If anybody has some solution / idea please let me know as this is all keys lost situation.
Thanks alot
Motorola MCU in W164 EIS maybe in 2005 year or begin of 2006, but sure not later. :listen: forget it :(
habbyb
24th November, 2016, 08:26 AM
Do you use SMOK bdm jtag (JG0006,07) for password and prepare key file whit VVDi MB?
always use smok and prepare key file with vvdi work perfect see foto.
habbyb
24th November, 2016, 08:31 AM
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This is W164 2009+.
I don't think this one have 3L40K. It has newer type MCU. If put any key the ignition will turn, but nothing come on DASH. Old type EIS will not turn without correct key.
If anybody has some solution / idea please let me know as this is all keys lost situation.
Thanks alot
if the same ezs 164 You can do with smok see foto w164.
daxxer
24th November, 2016, 08:58 AM
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if the same ezs 164 You can do with smok see foto w164.
by this not need any smok :( you can read this with Xprog, R270 or VVDI Prog too... :listen:
but thats only first serie of W164/251 or W221, i think sure not newer from 2006 up ;)
habbyb
24th November, 2016, 09:05 AM
Yesterday I broke a ezs w207 with elv damage key org version 62 get pass key ok ,get pass ezs ok,renew said ok but not total km have remained the same and can not write vin ,if the team Xhorse do not make update for direct personalise elv and emulation without renew ezs will be problems in the future ,so be careful dear owners vvdi , good luck .
Frankcar
24th November, 2016, 04:26 PM
Does anyone have pin connection for A1121530779 (c240 2002-benzine)?
can vvdi renew this ecu?
mercis
24th November, 2016, 04:38 PM
eeprom inside,read and upload dump
vasiliev7719
24th November, 2016, 07:07 PM
MB Sprinter Classic 909 ECU Renew CR4 - OK
drivesure
24th November, 2016, 09:21 PM
w164-2009 - did spare key today with online calculation, after completion original key started the car 2 times then lose sync. dont know why. spare key worked 100% . luckily v57 nec on key. wrote the key again and worked. if this was a spare key with an original bga key you might lose the orginal key. ml63 merc and eis turn with any key.
Samic
25th November, 2016, 04:40 AM
w164-2009 - did spare key today with online calculation, after completion original key started the car 2 times then lose sync. dont know why. spare key worked 100% . luckily v57 nec on key. wrote the key again and worked. if this was a spare key with an original bga key you might lose the orginal key. ml63 merc and eis turn with any key.
friend, it has nothing with online calculation as you described.car start 2 times then lose sync,not sure the exactly caused reason,
maybe the original key caused or the eis code-hopping. when this situation happened again, we can get last key hash from key with password support
habbyb
25th November, 2016, 08:42 AM
Hello Samic, I broke a ezs w207 with elv damage key org version 62 get pass key ok ,get pass ezs ok,renew said ok but not total km have remained and not erese vin, the same like original after reading nothing was renew .I tried manually nothing and can not write vin ,if the team Xhorse do not make update for direct personalise elv and emulation without renew ezs will be problems in the future .
CaioW
25th November, 2016, 10:01 AM
Hello Samic, I broke a ezs w207 with elv damage key org version 62 get pass key ok ,get pass ezs ok,renew said ok but not total km have remained and not erese vin, the same like original after reading nothing was renew .I tried manually nothing and can not write vin ,if the team Xhorse do not make update for direct personalise elv and emulation without renew ezs will be problems in the future .
But you are trying to adapt one new EZS ? Are you trying to right the VIN by OBD or IR?
habbyb
25th November, 2016, 10:34 AM
But you are trying to adapt one new EZS ? Are you trying to right the VIN by OBD or IR?
It would have been perfect bat I have not found another EZS thanks anyway.
Nassreddine84
25th November, 2016, 04:11 PM
Hi mates
I have benz CLS 350 w219 gearbox faulty and this is the first time i get like this job
1-Gearbox can be read by obd? Or with a programmer?
2-VVDI mb can renew and personalize activate the gearbox without the help of any extra device like xentry or diagnostic tool?
Job would be on bench or is it possible to do it direct on the car
Any answer would be appreciable thank u mates
gurmk
26th November, 2016, 12:40 AM
by this not need any smok :( you can read this with Xprog, R270 or VVDI Prog too... :listen:
but thats only first serie of W164/251 or W221, i think sure not newer from 2006 up ;)
Here is the EZS from 2009412042
bluesky2010
28th November, 2016, 03:23 AM
Hi All, W204 (GLK280) have elv problem. I got xhorse simulator and cannot get erase pass. Someone could help me to find erase pass ? Here is special key : 883ed74b999dfa80. attached EIS data.
Thanks
solitaire
28th November, 2016, 07:57 AM
Hi All, W204 (GLK280) have elv problem. I got xhorse simulator and cannot get erase pass. Someone could help me to find erase pass ? Here is special key : 883ed74b999dfa80. attached EIS data.
Thanks
erase pass for what? for simulator You don't need erase password, renew it first
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bluesky2010
28th November, 2016, 08:14 AM
eis renew need erase pass? or I undestood wrong?
daxxer
28th November, 2016, 08:29 AM
eis renew need erase pass? or I undestood wrong?
you are understand right... :listen:
solitaire
28th November, 2016, 08:29 AM
yes, You are right, vvdi can't calculate.
You can try this service http://app.wsctools.com/ 40e
it's not free, but if You don't have choice
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