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khalilo_de
4th July, 2017, 10:15 PM
HI,

Next time just copy and paste SpecialKey as text (ASCII), it is much easier for me then to get the SpecialKey from picture...

AE61C628BDD7FB6A <- A06813D7D94E5B4C

regards ficho
Thanks ficho for erase pass

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bluesky2010
5th July, 2017, 06:37 AM
Hello , I'm using Mercedes old small black key with NEC version v51. What key format should I write ? v051 ? v041 ?

derdud
5th July, 2017, 07:32 AM
Hello , I'm using Mercedes old small black key with NEC version v51. What key format should I write ? v051 ? v041 ?

v051 is ok

bluesky2010
5th July, 2017, 07:35 AM
thanks I used v051

CaioW
5th July, 2017, 08:55 AM
460905

And now: data adquisition for all keys lost, if somebody can calc password.

Sir, at the end of the process, if everything goes well you will receive the PASSWORD written in BLUE, but in order to extract password Xhorse charge you a CREDIT. And when there is no keys you need 2 credits (tokens).
So no one can calculate the keys for you with does files, because there is no password on does files.

hipolitogt
5th July, 2017, 09:34 AM
I made now one key on w203 and made key work, but original key don't... What should I have to do? Insert not working key and wait?

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CaioW
5th July, 2017, 10:03 AM
I made now one key on w203 and made key work, but original key don't... What should I have to do? Insert not working key and wait?

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On does models, there is only 2 things you should do wrong.

1 - Used the same position as the original working key
2 - If you have a key V51 and have readed the NEC processor with NEC adapter. If you read with NEC adaptar, you should renew this NEC and write the same key position customer have.

hipolitogt
5th July, 2017, 10:06 AM
I only read key trying to get password online... Because by kline didn't work... After trying I read password by ir and then made key. Original key untouched (was key nr 1), maybe I should open and renew key? It's nec v40...

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CaioW
5th July, 2017, 10:19 AM
I only read key trying to get password online... Because by kline didn't work... After trying I read password by ir and then made key. Original key untouched (was key nr 1), maybe I should open and renew key? It's nec v40...

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m8

Your first post was about W204, and now W203.

Does two types are totally different, what is the EZS model?

auto techniek
5th July, 2017, 02:49 PM
Hi
Is there any difference between W218 and W219? I thought they have the same eis.
Key program with obd no succes.

vageric
5th July, 2017, 04:54 PM
Hi
Is there any difference between W218 and W219? I thought they have the same eis.
Key program with obd no succes.

what is eis number?
you can have different eis number for same car.
all depend of option on car.

toyotalexus
5th July, 2017, 07:31 PM
PLEASE ERASE PASSWOR 207 905 73 01
SPECIAL KEY: E4989B6A317FFA28

lucioantonio
5th July, 2017, 08:48 PM
hi, today have this message my tool vvdi mb error device clock negative response! Happened to someone?

koyot
6th July, 2017, 12:15 PM
need pasword w204 545 09 08

special key 1F85DC162F77658B
thanks

shanektm450
6th July, 2017, 02:38 PM
Hi can I get erase pass for A2079052600 Special key:8261982212D61453
Thanks
Shane

toyotalexus
6th July, 2017, 03:32 PM
A2079052600 Special key:8261982212D61453


erase pass :C6277B277BFB4731

andresfn18
6th July, 2017, 07:36 PM
Please erase password for w207

Special Key: 95B9AA0030DCEF06

ficho
6th July, 2017, 10:29 PM
Please erase password for w207

Special Key: 95B9AA0030DCEF06

HI,

95B9AA0030DCEF06 <- 986281BF8FFA21F6

regards Ficho

gilahish
7th July, 2017, 03:52 PM
Do i have a chance of getting a password for 07 w203 (IR?) ? If not how can i make a key if all keys lost?

thanks

dmp
7th July, 2017, 03:53 PM
Do i have a chance of getting a password for 07 w203 (IR?) ? If not how can i make a key if all keys lost?

thanksRemove eis and read on bench

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gilahish
7th July, 2017, 04:07 PM
Remove eis and read on bench

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In 07 w203 dont have nec eis?

alexxxb0450
7th July, 2017, 07:35 PM
In 07 w203 dont have nec eis?
w203 never had nec inside

gilahish
7th July, 2017, 08:11 PM
w203 never had nec inside



Ok good to know! So basically what models have nec eis?

badenaleks
8th July, 2017, 06:52 AM
Hi my friends !
Need help with Erase Pass
I have Special key: CB84589FB6CFE8CDTransport Key: 3547F70C1D74AFF7

obeids
8th July, 2017, 09:34 AM
Hi there.
Just did a W210 spare key. Read EIS data by IR then used old Motorola key and read key Password using Steering adaptor. Then made keys and it worked perfect.
Saves plenty time on these old EIS especially if you have to remove HC05 and resolder.

Great work X-Horse!!!

vageric
8th July, 2017, 09:39 AM
Hi there.
Just did a W210 spare key. Read EIS data by IR then used old Motorola key and read key Password using Steering adaptor. Then made keys and it worked perfect.
Saves plenty time on these old EIS especially if you have to remove HC05 and resolder.

Great work X-Horse!!!

what Steering adaptor????
you have pic???

keyantic
8th July, 2017, 12:42 PM
hi
i need Erase Pass
44F3EFF42F9451C0

large12390
9th July, 2017, 04:30 AM
462021462022=

hi all freind
please i need origant help
i have w164 year 2010 with eis 1649051500 losed all keys
i try meny time calc pass without sacces
i dont know whay
tool say cant calc this pass is this courect? ther is sume eis cant calc
and i did 2 sem part before its ok no problem
please dsee photo in attach
regards

fytfh
9th July, 2017, 05:51 AM
what Steering adaptor????
you have pic???
Nec elv adaptor can read old big key with motorola mcu

fytfh
9th July, 2017, 05:52 AM
462021462022=

hi all freind
please i need origant help
i have w164 year 2010 with eis 1649051500 losed all keys
i try meny time calc pass without sacces
i dont know whay
tool say cant calc this pass is this courect? ther is sume eis cant calc
and i did 2 sem part before its ok no problem
please dsee photo in attach
regards

Make data aqustion agayn

large12390
9th July, 2017, 06:39 AM
Make data aqustion agayn
thanks for replay
i alredy dia 3 time meany 6 houer without sacces all sem resulte
regards

Brat
9th July, 2017, 07:02 AM
462021462022=

hi all freind
please i need origant help
i have w164 year 2010 with eis 1649051500 losed all keys
i try meny time calc pass without sacces
i dont know whay
tool say cant calc this pass is this courect? ther is sume eis cant calc
and i did 2 sem part before its ok no problem
please dsee photo in attach
regards

You data file is always same,when you soft ask you for save data chenge to _2,_3,_4 etc etc.. And load always last data file.

vageric
9th July, 2017, 08:36 AM
462021462022=

hi all freind
please i need origant help
i have w164 year 2010 with eis 1649051500 losed all keys
i try meny time calc pass without sacces
i dont know whay
tool say cant calc this pass is this courect? ther is sume eis cant calc
and i did 2 sem part before its ok no problem
please dsee photo in attach
regards

because you always use the same dat files.
must be 1.dat 2.dat 3.dat ect, ect

ghassooon
10th July, 2017, 01:43 PM
Hello, i am trying to upload a file the software says operation timed out any help please?

large12390
11th July, 2017, 02:10 AM
hi
iwhen i get used w164 with key and do eis renew all ok
but when need write new dump into this eis on table isnt accpt only need write dump on the car
i used cgw adptor on table without sacces
eny help please becuse almost time car is far away
regards

vageric
11th July, 2017, 05:48 AM
hi
iwhen i get used w164 with key and do eis renew all ok
but when need write new dump into this eis on table isnt accpt only need write dump on the car
i used cgw adptor on table without sacces
eny help please becuse almost time car is far away
regards

write dump through IR and not through obd.

ant21000
11th July, 2017, 06:01 PM
Hi Mate, Please need Erase pass for a W204
Special Key : CA548E158703297E

Thanks in advance!!

large12390
12th July, 2017, 06:34 AM
write dump through IR and not through obd.
thanks mate
bouth obd and ir sem resulte
eny sulation
regards

large12390
12th July, 2017, 06:38 AM
hi
please need get ears pass of tcm
regards

vageric
12th July, 2017, 07:38 AM
hi
please need get ears pass of tcm
regards

press the GET button by erase pass.

louis21
12th July, 2017, 10:05 AM
hi
iwhen i get used w164 with key and do eis renew all ok
but when need write new dump into this eis on table isnt accpt only need write dump on the car
i used cgw adptor on table without sacces
eny help please becuse almost time car is far away
regards
can read the eis through obd?

ficho
12th July, 2017, 02:42 PM
Hi Mate, Please need Erase pass for a W204
Special Key : CA548E158703297E

Thanks in advance!!
HI,

Special Key : CA548E158703297E
Erase pass: 750886CDCDEA31D4

Regards Ficho

derdud
13th July, 2017, 07:14 AM
i have a W124 Mercedes and ir key system is not working. i read 93c46 in the immo controler. but i do not have a tool that can calculate it.
my post with my dump in immo section:
(http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/195384-W124-please-generate-key-93C46)https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/195384-W124-please-generate-key-93C46 (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/195384-W124-please-generate-key-93C46)
can you please generate me keys for ir remote or give me name of tool that can calculate.

large12390
13th July, 2017, 07:18 AM
hello
please need get ears key
vvdi cant calc ears pass
regards

CarCity
13th July, 2017, 07:33 AM
Hi all

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ivanrpm
13th July, 2017, 01:55 PM
Hi bros, today I have to put a w204 elv emulator , but when try to read emulator by obd it gives error while reading, first 10%, then 25%, then 80%, at least I can read but when I try to write the same problem, try reading original elv and works great not reading errors.
And when I try to write VIN wrinting fails in 80% and not let me continue.

Many thanks for help
Best Regards

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duplikeytor
13th July, 2017, 04:22 PM
Server calculating failed.

Special Key - 57C0A5ED6DE5D4C3

W204 ESL erase password needed.

Thanks in Advance!

ivanrpm
13th July, 2017, 04:52 PM
I am trying yo use Daxer method , without renew EIS, so I dont need erase password.

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louis21
14th July, 2017, 04:56 AM
Hi bros, today I have to put a w204 elv emulator , but when try to read emulator by obd it gives error while reading, first 10%, then 25%, then 80%, at least I can read but when I try to write the same problem, try reading original elv and works great not reading errors.
And when I try to write VIN wrinting fails in 80% and not let me continue.

Many thanks for help
Best Regards
reading

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Hi
you can write the data directly,ignore writing the VIN(won't make difference)

kuzia1
14th July, 2017, 05:01 AM
[ПРИКРЕПИТЬ]463130[/ПРИКРЕПИТЬ]

technobox
14th July, 2017, 02:44 PM
i updated last version but nec unlock not work any idea i try 2 time counting 456738 but no success

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hipolitogt
14th July, 2017, 05:30 PM
Somebody tried to read w209 eis on bench? I tried but not succesfully, if somebody can help with schematics/process... I tried with w164 gateway but not work

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Brat
14th July, 2017, 05:45 PM
Somebody tried to read w209 eis on bench? I tried but not succesfully, if somebody can help with schematics/process... I tried with w164 gateway but not work

Read with programmer, vvdi is not "Magical Stick"

MBZmechanic
14th July, 2017, 09:51 PM
If you have a Diagspeed I could show you how to do on bench..... No Eeprom needed

whiskeyman
14th July, 2017, 10:15 PM
Whole sale Distributor in USA AND CANADA

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
​​1554 East Grand Ave
Escondido , CA 92027
xxxxxxxxx
​mxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Skype :Mxxxxxxxxxxxxx

comon mate we know you want to push your tools

i hide your full details just for you

MBZmechanic
14th July, 2017, 10:51 PM
I'm here to help if he has one. You will not know unless you ask. I try to help but everything gets me in trouble. Help = Pushing tools.....
Ask a way but I don't have much experience with all the others tools but can explain functions of the car and systems

khalilo_de
14th July, 2017, 11:35 PM
Today i was trying to add key for a-class w176 type model 01/2016
Vvdi bga tool can not read via obd get message read failed position 00

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MBZmechanic
14th July, 2017, 11:51 PM
So if its is a 2016 Infared Key, its more than likely a FBS4 EIS. THere is no solution as of yet for DAS4 cars. Thats why you cannot communicate with it. Hope that helps. We are just now getting the A Class here in the States.

ivanrpm
15th July, 2017, 04:24 AM
Hi all, Does someone know if the new update of Vvdi mb gives errors in ELV emulator??

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fytfh
15th July, 2017, 05:51 AM
Hi all, Does someone know if the new update of Vvdi mb gives errors in ELV emulator??

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I have sucessful added emulator on w204

fytfh
15th July, 2017, 05:52 AM
i updated last version but nec unlock not work any idea i try 2 time counting 456738 but no success

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Today sucessful unlock eslw204 try only 804 times

tferenc
15th July, 2017, 08:26 AM
Hi,
Anyone tried to renew Bosch EDC16C2 CR3.13 ecu with VVDI?
It can make via OBD?
Thanks in advance!

CarCity
15th July, 2017, 08:57 AM
Hi
Anyone tried to renew TCM for 2015 CLA250 ?
VVDI MB can do it ?


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daxxer
15th July, 2017, 09:54 AM
Hi,
Anyone tried to renew Bosch EDC16C2 CR3.13 ecu with VVDI?
It can make via OBD?
Thanks in advance!

yes...easy ;)


Hi
Anyone tried to renew TCM for 2015 CLA250 ?
VVDI MB can do it ?
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i think it is FBS4 unit yet...then no any tool can do it... :listen:

mercis
15th July, 2017, 10:45 AM
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/styles/DarkCore/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by tferenc http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/styles/DarkCore/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=3075609#post3075609)
Hi,
Anyone tried to renew Bosch EDC16C2 CR3.13 ecu with VVDI?
It can make via OBD?
Thanks in advance!



on bench with ecu adapter,yes

alexxxb0450
15th July, 2017, 01:35 PM
Hi
Anyone tried to renew TCM for 2015 CLA250 ?
VVDI MB can do it ?


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no this tool cant
because its fbs4
no egs,ism, ecu,tcm with fbs 4

tferenc
15th July, 2017, 07:42 PM
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/styles/DarkCore/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by tferenc http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/styles/DarkCore/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=3075609#post3075609)
Hi,
Anyone tried to renew Bosch EDC16C2 CR3.13 ecu with VVDI?
It can make via OBD?
Thanks in advance!



on bench with ecu adapter,yes

yes...easy ;)



i think it is FBS4 unit yet...then no any tool can do it... :listen:
For renewing needs erase password?

ivanrpm
16th July, 2017, 03:30 AM
Hi bros, today I have to put a w204 elv emulator , but when try to read emulator by obd it gives error while reading, first 10%, then 25%, then 80%, at least I can read but when I try to write the same problem, try reading original elv and works great not reading errors.
And when I try to write VIN wrinting fails in 80% and not let me continue.

Many thanks for help
Best Regards

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Problem solve!
Thanks to Daxxer

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alexxxb0450
17th July, 2017, 08:12 AM
hi mates
can someone help me with erase pass for egs
special key : 21A57ED33217EBBE
thanks
servers doesnt work

ficho
17th July, 2017, 08:44 AM
hi mates
can someone help me with erase pass for egs
special key : 21A57ED33217EBBE
thanks
servers doesnt work
HI,
you Erase Pass: 3EB33BBA40F77590
regards ficho

Niaz
17th July, 2017, 09:19 AM
Problem solve!
Thanks to Daxxer

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Hi mate i have same issue, how you solved?

Edit: SOLVED

Niaz
17th July, 2017, 01:19 PM
Some one test this function ? http://blog.obdii365.com/2017/02/15/vvdi-mb-bga-unlock-w204-esl-without-renew-eis/

"As for w204 faulty ESL unlock and renew all works fine" !! it need renew after unlock ? "just get key pass and paste it to the EIS dump close go to ESL use Load Vvdi ESL Data+tick Auto Clear TP + Write all set to go"

what i understand!! read first EIS via OBD mode or IR ? then paste key pass and save then go to ESL and load Vvdi-mb EIS data "last saved" then go for auto TP and Write !? please someone explain i much appriciate :)
I test today this function it is works on original ESL & also works on simulator :)

Codes
17th July, 2017, 10:49 PM
Hi please if can help me
Need erase pass
Special key is


Vehicle is gone :flybye::flybye:

raints
18th July, 2017, 03:56 PM
Hi mate i have same issue, how you solved?

Edit: SOLVED
How you solved this?

thephenom
19th July, 2017, 02:14 PM
Hello, can someone please calculate erase pass for me? Server without success, thanks.

Special key: CC9A3EA7288C4F8A

lioncam
19th July, 2017, 06:18 PM
Hello,

is it possible to renew W204 engine ecu with reference A6511500126 with vvdi bga?
Can anyone help revirginize it.

best regards

khalilo_de
20th July, 2017, 12:37 AM
Hello,

is it possible to renew W204 engine ecu with reference A6511500126 with vvdi bga?
Can anyone help revirginize it.

best regards
Yes you can renew it with vvdi but not on car

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lioncam
20th July, 2017, 08:11 AM
Yes you can renew it with vvdi but not on car

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Hi,
Please i need pin out to Virgin it.
Thks.

Ringo24
20th July, 2017, 08:14 AM
here you go

Carsoft2003
20th July, 2017, 11:18 AM
Hi I need erase password for ezs W166 with special key 5C38E383ECF6CFA9 , please I need it urgent because the car is in my workshop and the server canot calculate.

key pass : 62AF00E5E4C2E3F5
Thanks in advance.

lioncam
20th July, 2017, 11:23 AM
here you go
Please ecu not respond , i think that flash corrupted. i tried firstly to red by obd with galleto without succ?s.464579https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170720/867fa611752a76a64ef565a2acfc4853.jpg

Ringo24
20th July, 2017, 11:43 AM
check this
464585464586

Carsoft2003
20th July, 2017, 01:23 PM
please friends I need erase password .
keypass :62AF00E5E4C2E3F5
special key :5C38E383ECF6CFA9
for pass the tool give me ok but when I try to get erase passe failed.

Carsoft2003
20th July, 2017, 01:24 PM
please friends I need erase password .
keypass :62AF00E5E4C2E3F5
special key :5C38E383ECF6CFA9
for pass the tool give me ok but when I try to get erase passe failed. I have try 100 times

Carsoft2003
20th July, 2017, 02:36 PM
PROBLEME SOLVED WITH DIAGSPEED :tears_of_joy: DIAGSPEED NO NEED ERASE PASWORD TO RENEW EZS.

JUST QUESTION WHY HE GIVE AS PASS WITH MONY AND TOOL NO GOOD 100% BIG PROBLEME WITH CHINA PRODUCT.

hipolitogt
20th July, 2017, 07:29 PM
Ok, this is a renewed ezs from Sprinter 906... how to adapt now to other car? Need help!!!

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170720/aacc2b595959a20659544204873a9221.jpg

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MaxMin
20th July, 2017, 09:08 PM
PROBLEME SOLVED WITH DIAGSPEED :tears_of_joy: DIAGSPEED NO NEED ERASE PASWORD TO RENEW EZS.

JUST QUESTION WHY HE GIVE AS PASS WITH MONY AND TOOL NO GOOD 100% BIG PROBLEME WITH CHINA PRODUCT.

diagspeed is 8000usd mbvvdi is 1700usd.
when diagspeed make normal price i thing people buy this tool.
diagspeed always make good progress he work only in one tool "mercedes tool"
xhorse make too much tool and quality go down! long time xhorse not want solved old bags and problem like in immo tool in vvdi2,condor mini etc etc...
vvdi2 is not finish xhorse release vvdi key tool, vvdi key tool not finish i see now soon release tablet vvdi key tool....
but price decides this rules and games
i have some tools from xhorse and some time not finish job,but i must live with this,not have 8000usd for one tool, much people work much brend car not only mercedes or vw/audi

daxxer
20th July, 2017, 11:48 PM
PROBLEME SOLVED WITH DIAGSPEED :tears_of_joy: DIAGSPEED NO NEED ERASE PASWORD TO RENEW EZS.
JUST QUESTION WHY HE GIVE AS PASS WITH MONY AND TOOL NO GOOD 100% BIG PROBLEME WITH CHINA PRODUCT.
diagspeed need erase pass too, but only not visible to you :D :D then you think = not need... :listen:

duplikeytor
21st July, 2017, 01:27 AM
Server calculating failed.

Special Key - 57C0A5ED6DE5D4C3

W204 ESL erase password needed.

Thanks in Advance!

ELV erase password needed.

Bump

louis21
21st July, 2017, 04:12 AM
@lioncam if you made sure that ecu is no problem,please post your log here,let's have a look
@MaxMin what is the problem not solved?we haven't stopped updating those software
@hipolitogt replace the original car EIS?Read and save the original eis data,replace the new eis,load the original eis data,fill in the password then save the eis data(with password),write the VIN.IR write the EIS data,then OK.(original eis with new password)

hipolitogt
21st July, 2017, 04:27 AM
Ok @louis21, thanks for your reply. Will check.

Also please check pm.

vageric
21st July, 2017, 06:14 AM
diagspeed is 8000usd mbvvdi is 1700usd.
when diagspeed make normal price i thing people buy this tool.
diagspeed always make good progress he work only in one tool "mercedes tool"
xhorse make too much tool and quality go down! long time xhorse not want solved old bags and problem like in immo tool in vvdi2,condor mini etc etc...
vvdi2 is not finish xhorse release vvdi key tool, vvdi key tool not finish i see now soon release tablet vvdi key tool....
but price decides this rules and games
i have some tools from xhorse and some time not finish job,but i must live with this,not have 8000usd for one tool, much people work much brend car not only mercedes or vw/audi

Hi, but you have forget one important issue.
and that being that diagspeed have to develop the tool and software from scratch
and vvdi just copy the soft and tool from diagspeed and others.
and thats why diagspeed charge 8000usd and vvdi only 1700usd.
and i think if you also charge normal price to customer you can get your money back in no time.

vageric
21st July, 2017, 06:20 AM
Ok, this is a renewed ezs from Sprinter 906... how to adapt now to other car? Need help!!!

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you shure this is renewed?
i see that its still personalized .

hipolitogt
21st July, 2017, 06:21 AM
you shure this is renewed?
i see that its still personalized .It's what tells vvdi...

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vageric
21st July, 2017, 06:28 AM
i also see that all your keys are disabled.
try renew again to see what happend.

hipolitogt
21st July, 2017, 07:04 AM
I made a copy of processor with vvdiprog before... I'm testing this things so I have to know if it is well done before use with my customer's Cars...

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louis21
21st July, 2017, 09:20 AM
I think it is renewed

gilahish
25th July, 2017, 10:21 PM
Hi everybody, i got a call from a customer with 08 w164 all key lost and before i drive i thought i can use a little bit of help so i will ask some questions that can probably help a lot of guys in this thread.
-first , i guess i will most likely find NEC eis in the car, do i have a way to know if its NEC just by the year?
-second, i know that maybe the only way of making a key is by replacing the eis with a new one and adapt it, do i need the exact same eis or just w164? When i get a used one do i need to get it withthe key in order to read the key pass? is there any other technique for this situation?
Any help will be appriciated, thank you.

cklair
26th July, 2017, 03:33 AM
I always have problem reading elv. orinal or emulator. eis read ok . is there a trick to read them. I have tried in car and on bench.

louis21
26th July, 2017, 03:57 AM
Hi everybody, i got a call from a customer with 08 w164 all key lost and before i drive i thought i can use a little bit of help so i will ask some questions that can probably help a lot of guys in this thread.
-first , i guess i will most likely find NEC eis in the car, do i have a way to know if its NEC just by the year?
-second, i know that maybe the only way of making a key is by replacing the eis with a new one and adapt it, do i need the exact same eis or just w164? When i get a used one do i need to get it withthe key in order to read the key pass? is there any other technique for this situation?
Any help will be appriciated, thank you.
1.depend on your experience
2.you just need a good eis.this is not only way to get the key password,you can get it from the be key,you can calculate key password online for some eis,you can read by vvdi prog.

Diablotic
26th July, 2017, 07:27 AM
Today I failed at reading pass from W203 via IR.
When I read EIS when I try to read password I get message: "current eis don't support read password'.
I believe I need to remove EIS and read it on bench.
But maybe I could try this way:
I have one almost dead but still working key for W203. It is working 1 out of 10 times. I can read its data with MBTool and now the question is - what would happen if I write its data to a new key. Would the old key get deleted and the new one work or both of them would be dead?

gilahish
26th July, 2017, 08:10 AM
1.depend on your experience
2.you just need a good eis.this is not only way to get the key password,you can get it from the be key,you can calculate key password online for some eis,you can read by vvdi prog.



ok,but if i replace eis (for model i cant get pass otherwise), do i need to put the exact same eis?

Fallen
26th July, 2017, 08:14 AM
If the key is from that car, just move the NEC to another donor key.

auto techniek
26th July, 2017, 08:43 AM
Which eis model did you choose?
Let de vvdi define which eis you ve before reading.

louis21
26th July, 2017, 10:35 AM
ok,but if i replace eis (for model i cant get pass otherwise), do i need to put the exact same eis?
no need the exact same eis.renewed the used eis,write the original eis data into the renewed eis,then make key

uchtool
26th July, 2017, 11:15 AM
Hello
Please i need the erase pass for my eis 212
special key:6B0920B3612A33D5
thanks a lot

uchtool
26th July, 2017, 02:21 PM
Hello
Please i need the erase pass for my eis 212
special key:6B0920B3612A33D5
thanks a lot

ficho
26th July, 2017, 05:21 PM
Hello
Please i need the erase pass for my eis 212
special key:6B0920B3612A33D5
thanks a lot
HI,
Here is your requested ErasePass:
4D094C87F3F8BE85
regards ficho

Diablotic
27th July, 2017, 09:57 PM
How to generate erase pass from special key?

keysmith
28th July, 2017, 01:44 AM
If the key is from that car, just move the NEC to another donor key.

Have a guy with water damaged MB key, is the NEC chip the only one on the board I need to move for starting and remote functions? These kits require 3 things to be moved, 2 chips and I think the crystal.

alexxxb0450
28th July, 2017, 08:40 AM
Have a guy with water damaged MB key, is the NEC chip the only one on the board I need to move for starting and remote functions? These kits require 3 things to be moved, 2 chips and I think the crystal.
just change nec chip at the same donor plate

kazikk
28th July, 2017, 09:50 AM
hi
can some one get erase pass for me please
VVDI can't find
W204

Special key : 62D634E8529EBD7D

auto techniek
29th July, 2017, 09:25 AM
Anyone tried make spare key from W639 year 2011 with VVDI MB with OBD?

vageric
29th July, 2017, 11:15 AM
yes work ok

lioncam
29th July, 2017, 02:35 PM
hi,
please need erase pass for ecu crd2.10, vvdi can't find it.
Special key: ECA670363C8BD126
thks.

hipolitogt
29th July, 2017, 03:11 PM
Anyone tried make spare key from W639 year 2011 with VVDI MB with OBD?Not worked obd, used IR, yesterday did one...

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vageric
29th July, 2017, 09:31 PM
Not worked obd, used IR, yesterday did one...

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i did like 6 W639 2011/2012 all ready and all through obd.
so maybe you doing something wrong.

auto techniek
30th July, 2017, 12:15 PM
What about W210 from 1998. Can be done with OBD like W203 without online calculation?

vageric
30th July, 2017, 01:04 PM
What about W210 from 1998. Can be done with OBD like W203 without online calculation?


with vvdi you only have online calculation.
and some W210 you can get the psw through obd/ir.
depends of sw in eis.

lioncam
30th July, 2017, 04:26 PM
hi,
please need erase pass for ecu crd2.10, vvdi can't find it.
Special key: ECA670363C8BD126
thks.
Hi,
please @ficho can you help me pass. i'm verry sory but...
thks.

CarCity
1st August, 2017, 09:29 AM
Hi all bro
We could not yet adapt ourselves to the FBS4 system. Mercedes-Benz has changed the layout of its keys, who has information on these keys?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170801/3657743e27d4d100da5b888fe0037d85.jpg
WDD2130421A121453
E200
2017


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large12390
1st August, 2017, 11:11 AM
Hi all
Please need ask if one can renew w166 ecu me17.7.8 by vvdi
And if can is that by obd2 or on table?
Regards

ficho
1st August, 2017, 04:47 PM
hi,
please need erase pass for ecu crd2.10, vvdi can't find it.
Special key: ECA670363C8BD126
thks.

HI,
Here is your requested erase pass:

8B231B453EEFE985

regards ficho

ficho
1st August, 2017, 04:50 PM
hi
can some one get erase pass for me please
VVDI can't find
W204

Special key : 62D634E8529EBD7D

HI,
Your requested erase pass:

62D634E8529EBD7D <- 3BD8D3351306979D

regards ficho

lioncam
1st August, 2017, 08:24 PM
HI,
Here is your requested erase pass:

8B231B453EEFE985

regards ficho

Hi,
Work like charm...
Thks

obeids
2nd August, 2017, 06:20 AM
Hi there guys.....

1 problem and 1 question....

Question: -> Can the VVDI do the CLA class merc? The VIN is WDD1173422N025075. All Keys lost.......


Problem:-> Now it's the second esl that I did unlock (Fatal Error) and then tried to write the VVDI EIS info and it failed writing but it CLEARED TP and now I cannot do anything. I cannot erase because it says not Activated. I cannot personalise or anything. How to solve this problem? Is there any way of erasing the NEC and doing it again? As I said now it is the second ESL which VVDI messed up like this. Others I did with VVDI worked fine.

solitaire
2nd August, 2017, 04:51 PM
please help errase password for this key:
E8EF33A4348B1D7C
THANKS!

dd1
2nd August, 2017, 06:26 PM
Hey everyone. '05 E320 w211, the vvdi2 mb can't get the key pass, error, " current Eis don't support read password via IR". I can get the special key and erase pass no problem. My issue is that I need to renew the Eis in order to re-write VIN. Is there any other way of getting it done, let me know. Otherwise what are my options. Thnx in advance

dd1
2nd August, 2017, 06:34 PM
Hey everyone. I have a Mbz e320, w211, 2005. I'm trying to renew the Eis in order to rewrite the VIN. The Eis, esl and the key came out of another car. I have started the car. But Eis has a different VIN Srs light stays on because of this. I'm trying to read the Eis IR mode, in order to renew it, getting error " current Eis don't support pass via IR" I can get the special key and erase pass but the key pass I can't. I know we can solder the IC out of the key and read it but I'm 100000% sure that it will damage the key. This is from my past experience. What are my options? Help the brother out plz......

ficho
2nd August, 2017, 07:19 PM
please help errase password for this key:
E8EF33A4348B1D7C
THANKS!
HI,
your requested erase pass:

E8EF33A4348B1D7C <- 53918DE4CED1A54E

regards ficho

alexxxb0450
2nd August, 2017, 07:38 PM
Hey everyone. I have a Mbz e320, w211, 2005. I'm trying to renew the Eis in order to rewrite the VIN. The Eis, esl and the key came out of another car. I have started the car. But Eis has a different VIN Srs light stays on because of this. I'm trying to read the Eis IR mode, in order to renew it, getting error " current Eis don't support pass via IR" I can get the special key and erase pass but the key pass I can't. I know we can solder the IC out of the key and read it but I'm 100000% sure that it will damage the key. This is from my past experience. What are my options? Help the brother out plz......
srs light on because you have different ssid in ezs and srs
just renew ezs with star development function and adapt to your car
if you want to change vin use 9s12 programer, x-prog, rosfar or other for motorola 9s12 cpu
all you need in eeprom of ezs

klychnik
3rd August, 2017, 09:19 AM
hi,
please need erase pass for EZS W164, vvdi can't find it.
Special key: 6DC3BD234A44A4F2
thks

louis21
3rd August, 2017, 09:27 AM
Hi there guys.....

1 problem and 1 question....

Question: -> Can the VVDI do the CLA class merc? The VIN is WDD1173422N025075. All Keys lost.......


Problem:-> Now it's the second esl that I did unlock (Fatal Error) and then tried to write the VVDI EIS info and it failed writing but it CLEARED TP and now I cannot do anything. I cannot erase because it says not Activated. I cannot personalise or anything. How to solve this problem? Is there any way of erasing the NEC and doing it again? As I said now it is the second ESL which VVDI messed up like this. Others I did with VVDI worked fine.
All key lost,need to check the chassis type
The esl is a new one or one repaired?

klychnik
3rd August, 2017, 09:44 AM
hi,
please need erase pass for EZS W164, vvdi can't find it.
Special key: 6DC3BD234A44A4F2
thks

ficho
3rd August, 2017, 12:36 PM
hi,
please need erase pass for EZS W164, vvdi can't find it.
Special key: 6DC3BD234A44A4F2
thks

HI,

You rewuested erase pass:

6DC3BD234A44A4F2 <- A9F3366494F4A3ED

regards ficho

leandroks
3rd August, 2017, 04:30 PM
Hi guys, i got a question wich i couldnt find a clear answer on the posts, so please if someone could tell me about w204, i would be thankfull.
I ve got Merdeces Full from simon touch, but it is not capable of renew and program esl with aa fatal error, when i ve got bga key just when car has a .51 keys.
Is the vvdi bga mercedes capable of doing so:::??
When the car has just bga key and need renew and program esl???
Thanks a lot..

Leo

vageric
3rd August, 2017, 04:50 PM
Hi guys, i got a question wich i couldnt find a clear answer on the posts, so please if someone could tell me about w204, i would be thankfull.
I ve got Merdeces Full from simon touch, but it is not capable of renew and program esl with aa fatal error, when i ve got bga key just when car has a .51 keys.
Is the vvdi bga mercedes capable of doing so:::??
When the car has just bga key and need renew and program esl???
Thanks a lot..

Leo


short anwser: Yes.........

leandroks
3rd August, 2017, 04:58 PM
Thanks m8, so with just one bga key i am able to get the password and dump to reuse els with fatal error??
I ve spent a lot fo money on mercedes full Simon touch wich canīt do that.
BR


Leo

PremierD
3rd August, 2017, 08:03 PM
Ask Simon for a refund mate .... I'm sure he will oblige .. lol

leandroks
3rd August, 2017, 08:33 PM
Is easear to turn a lump of lead into gold. eheheheh

vageric
3rd August, 2017, 09:00 PM
Hi there guys.....

Problem:-> Now it's the second esl that I did unlock (Fatal Error) and then tried to write the VVDI EIS info and it failed writing but it CLEARED TP and now I cannot do anything. I cannot erase because it says not Activated. I cannot personalise or anything. How to solve this problem? Is there any way of erasing the NEC and doing it again? As I said now it is the second ESL which VVDI messed up like this. Others I did with VVDI worked fine.


post pic of TP cleared if possible.

wiseman
4th August, 2017, 08:54 AM
Anyone in U.K. Have an w204 esl emulators for sale ?


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dave11674
4th August, 2017, 11:32 AM
does anyone have any nec from inside esl for sale ?
or know where i can buy fresh ones from or working used ones

thanks

dave

auto techniek
4th August, 2017, 04:38 PM
Today I got W208 year 1998 for spare kay.
read EIS but Password reading failed from IR.

How can I read the motorolla IC from the key version 56? which adapter?

Xprog can do the job I think?

Diablotic
4th August, 2017, 05:06 PM
Yes, xprog will do

auto techniek
4th August, 2017, 06:35 PM
I can see that VVDI MB can read eis password from W208. W208 is listed in the menu.

This is wrong information.

tferenc
4th August, 2017, 08:52 PM
Dear ficho,
Can you calculate erase password for this: 7A17E6525D0CC764 ?
(I sent for you 3 times the message, but every time the message was not send due to token expired... In the sent messages not appear the messages...)
Thanks in advance!

vageric
4th August, 2017, 09:07 PM
I can see that VVDI MB can read eis password from W208. W208 is listed in the menu.

This is wrong information.

is not wrong info.
it can read some version.

ficho
4th August, 2017, 11:24 PM
Dear ficho,
Can you calculate erase password for this: 7A17E6525D0CC764 ?
(I sent for you 3 times the message, but every time the message was not send due to token expired... In the sent messages not appear the messages...)
Thanks in advance!

HI,
your requested Erase Pass: 5C38A4181D51F348
regards Ficho

auto techniek
5th August, 2017, 10:53 AM
How to know if vvdi mb can do some versions or not?

Of it is a matter of experience?



is not wrong info.
it can read some version.

tferenc
5th August, 2017, 12:04 PM
Thank you!
It worked like all of your erase password!

HI,
your requested Erase Pass: 5C38A4181D51F348
regards Ficho

CaioW
5th August, 2017, 03:55 PM
You can read password from all MOTOROLA keys, but on NEC you will be able to read the password from V51 and V56.

vageric
5th August, 2017, 06:48 PM
How to know if vvdi mb can do some versions or not?

Of it is a matter of experience?

just a matter of trying

fanat911bss
5th August, 2017, 07:15 PM
I pulled out the password from key V51 (W164 2005) on the panel, the working key stopped working. Poking at the castle for half an hour, did not help. To erase also does not want. Erased using mb prog 2.

ficho
5th August, 2017, 07:39 PM
I pulled out the password from key V51 (W164 2005) on the panel, the working key stopped working. Poking at the castle for half an hour, did not help. To erase also does not want. Erased using mb prog 2.
That's how people start getting gray hair :)
regards ficho

alexxxb0450
5th August, 2017, 08:34 PM
just calculate new key and write to your nec and all will be great
and one more question why do you read pass from key - you have motorola inside ezs

auto techniek
6th August, 2017, 09:41 AM
Very easy and save more time I think.
I do it often


just calculate new key and write to your nec and all will be great
and one more question why do you read pass from key - you have motorola inside ezs

louis21
7th August, 2017, 08:43 AM
I pulled out the password from key V51 (W164 2005) on the panel, the working key stopped working. Poking at the castle for half an hour, did not help. To erase also does not want. Erased using mb prog 2.
Insert and plug the key many times fast,the working key maybe recovers working;another way:erase the key,then do the key again.

Craig coopen
7th August, 2017, 12:15 PM
Hi ficho I need erase PW for 204 ecu. 00A218CB6BA514C6 special key

alexxxb0450
7th August, 2017, 06:00 PM
Insert and plug the key many times fast,the working key maybe recovers working;another way:erase the key,then do the key again.
just do as i write
you have pass from key - calculate new one and write to nec

Samic
9th August, 2017, 11:09 AM
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Dear Xhorse Users


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we will shutdown our server at 19:00-21:00(00:00GMT+8:00),9th August 2017.during this period, VVDI2, VVDI MB TOOL, VVDI KEY TOOL online calculation not available.
We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused to you, thanks for your understanding and support!




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fanat911bss
9th August, 2017, 07:29 PM
inserted into the lock 30 times, didn't help.

fanat911bss
9th August, 2017, 07:42 PM
just do as i write
you have pass from key - calculate new one and write to nec
thank you, I designed a new key

electronicservicemate
10th August, 2017, 06:15 PM
hi please need erase pass for 1169BD59CE1220D7 thanks

mossa19
11th August, 2017, 02:36 PM
Can you calculate erase password for this dump.
Special key A4E8D3FF156E2C01

Mracni
11th August, 2017, 10:08 PM
w164 2007 make spare key,remove nec from ori key,put in pcb adapter indetification ok v57 key number 2,when i press read pass i get error 001F and fuc..ng china tool destroy nec dump !!!!
Now no pass no start car!

PremierD
11th August, 2017, 10:27 PM
Then use the dump that you backed up before pressing the get pass button mate ..............:)

gilahish
12th August, 2017, 05:49 AM
Hi, just got the new data acquisition adapter and try to read w164 on bench. connect adapter to 12v supply, vvdi from one side, other side to obd cable => eis cable. no gateway. says "failed to connect power adapter", what am i missing?
Thanks

addgsm
12th August, 2017, 05:15 PM
can someone help with erase pass for w204
E86E1A5E1EEF6576

ficho
12th August, 2017, 06:00 PM
can someone help with erase pass for w204
E86E1A5E1EEF6576

C1C8E977B8DF432E

ficho
12th August, 2017, 06:00 PM
Can you calculate erase password for this dump.
Special key A4E8D3FF156E2C01

94D88774459EDE3B

ficho
12th August, 2017, 06:01 PM
hi please need erase pass for 1169BD59CE1220D7 thanks

19B65033AEB19DE2

ficho
12th August, 2017, 06:02 PM
Hi ficho I need erase PW for 204 ecu. 00A218CB6BA514C6 special key
879A460E4D44076C

electronicservicemate
12th August, 2017, 07:10 PM
FICHO BIG TAHANKS WORK GOOD, NOW NEED NEW ERASE PASS PLEASE IF YOU CAN. SPECIAL KEY IS 9235A7194F081494 THANKS

ficho
12th August, 2017, 11:17 PM
FICHO BIG TAHANKS WORK GOOD, NOW NEED NEW ERASE PASS PLEASE IF YOU CAN. SPECIAL KEY IS 9235A7194F081494 THANKS

EB787C101CBBC654

louis21
14th August, 2017, 04:39 AM
@Mracni Which apdater did you use?how do you solder?upload a picture.Which software version do you use?
@gilahish when read the eis?or when data acquisition?

Mracni
15th August, 2017, 08:42 PM
Then use the dump that you backed up before pressing the get pass button mate ..............:)
no comment for this,very unprofessional!



@Mracni Which apdater did you use?how do you solder?upload a picture.Which software version do you use?
@gilahish when read the eis?or when data acquisition?
vvdi read all basic data success,ssid,counter,use time,key number,,status key...
when i make first attack for read pass i get error in 50% and vvdi kill nec! now when indetificate key only see v57 and status is 0000,picture you tell all
this is not my first nec,i have in stock 50pcs with v57,v51.

obeids
15th August, 2017, 09:21 PM
Guys....
I have 2 X NEC from ESL which are semi locked.
I can read info but it won't write.

It shows TP CLeared but not personalised or activated.468795

louis21
16th August, 2017, 03:10 AM
no comment for this,very unprofessional!



vvdi read all basic data success,ssid,counter,use time,key number,,status key...
when i make first attack for read pass i get error in 50% and vvdi kill nec! now when indetificate key only see v57 and status is 0000,picture you tell all
this is not my first nec,i have in stock 50pcs with v57,v51.

Please upload the log which this problem happened.Then read the key again,also upload this log.Two logs.

louis21
16th August, 2017, 03:15 AM
Guys....
I have 2 X NEC from ESL which are semi locked.
I can read info but it won't write.

It shows TP CLeared but not personalised or activated.468795
what operations have you done to the ESL?erased the esl by vvdi mb? when write,what's the error message?

vageric
16th August, 2017, 06:07 AM
Guys....
I have 2 X NEC from ESL which are semi locked.
I can read info but it won't write.

It shows TP CLeared but not personalised or activated.468795

your dump got corrupted.
you can do nothing about it.
put it in the bin!
happen sometimes when try to unlock AA flag!

vageric
16th August, 2017, 06:18 AM
no comment for this,very unprofessional!



vvdi read all basic data success,ssid,counter,use time,key number,,status key...
when i make first attack for read pass i get error in 50% and vvdi kill nec! now when indetificate key only see v57 and status is 0000,picture you tell all
this is not my first nec,i have in stock 50pcs with v57,v51.


first premierD is correct. he try to help you but you'r not getting the point.
he saying reload the back-up dump that you have make when you have try to get the psw from the key.
vvdi ask you to make a back-up from the dump so you must have it.
otherwise just make a new key.

second i also had the same problem ones.
and the solution was like i wrote above
and like premierD sayed in post #4317.

duplikeytor
16th August, 2017, 06:24 AM
FICHO please :)

Server calculating failed.

Special Key - 57C0A5ED6DE5D4C3

W204 ESL erase password needed.

Thanks in Advance!

ficho
16th August, 2017, 07:59 AM
FICHO please :)

Server calculating failed.

Special Key - 57C0A5ED6DE5D4C3

W204 ESL erase password needed.

Thanks in Advance!

284FD24114F900B2

bbmotors
16th August, 2017, 02:17 PM
can also have erase password pls special key password 0120C8DFB7ABF3B9

obeids
16th August, 2017, 02:25 PM
Where can I buy new NEC for ESL?

mercis
16th August, 2017, 04:08 PM
google for WEIXY electronics

Mracni
16th August, 2017, 09:00 PM
first premierD is correct. he try to help you but you'r not getting the point.
he saying reload the back-up dump that you have make when you have try to get the psw from the key.
vvdi ask you to make a back-up from the dump so you must have it.
otherwise just make a new key.

second i also had the same problem ones.
and the solution was like i wrote above
and like premierD sayed in post #4317.

vageric maybe now be clear with video

ficho
16th August, 2017, 09:59 PM
can also have erase password pls special key password 0120C8DFB7ABF3B9

222F3D1697512D19

auto techniek
17th August, 2017, 08:16 AM
Hi

You have two options

see if you have made a backup file when when password read faiiled If not you have to read the EIS and make new keys.

okuser1
18th August, 2017, 02:10 PM
Hi! Please I need erase password for eis w204.
Special key : 55171CEA6476EE3A
Thank you

large12390
19th August, 2017, 03:33 AM
hi to all
please need ears pass of ism
special key F1CD12FC731A06C0
king regards

raints
21st August, 2017, 02:46 PM
Hi,

somebody can tell me why i get write vin failed in cr4 ecu?
I renewed but cant write a vin.
What i missing?
Whit DAS i must connect online to get vin write.

Thanks in advance!

mercis
21st August, 2017, 03:49 PM
you can vin writte without online
ecu renew,now swap vin ,personalise and activate,vvdi work fine

shanektm450
21st August, 2017, 03:52 PM
Hi I have a w204 2075450108 and need erase pass here is special key: 370C45EE655DA1F1
Thanks
Shane

raints
21st August, 2017, 05:21 PM
you can vin writte without online
ecu renew,now swap vin ,personalise and activate,vvdi work fine

You mean all done whit VVDI? Personalize and activate whit DAS?
One time i personalize and activate whit das but old vin were ecu. Car starts but vin wrong.

mercis
21st August, 2017, 05:42 PM
i mean vvdi renew,after with star codin,ecu can start with other vin,only key data important

daxxer
21st August, 2017, 08:41 PM
i mean vvdi renew,after with star codin,ecu can start with other vin,only key data important

yes, right...VIN not need to be matched...only key data must be synchro....to start allowed.. ;)

alexxxb0450
22nd August, 2017, 06:11 AM
You mean all done whit VVDI? Personalize and activate whit DAS?
One time i personalize and activate whit das but old vin were ecu. Car starts but vin wrong.
hi
just make it virgin
and then write vin with das or vediamo and then personolise and activate

rambit
22nd August, 2017, 08:37 AM
Hi Guys<br><br>I am in need of your help please. Just acquired VVDi MBGA tool. I have a job i need to use it on and i dont have a clue where or how to start. From what i gather or read is that i need to is Virgin EZS. I say this because the key and eis is out of sync or so soft says. The elv/esl is not in fatal error and key (BGA) reads. Can anyone please guide me on my new journey? Thanks in advance

derdud
22nd August, 2017, 11:23 AM
Hi Guys<br><br>I am in need of your help please. Just acquired VVDi MBGA tool. I have a job i need to use it on and i dont have a clue where or how to start. From what i gather or read is that i need to is Virgin EZS. I say this because the key and eis is out of sync or so soft says. The elv/esl is not in fatal error and key (BGA) reads. Can anyone please guide me on my new journey? Thanks in advance

Hello, i think first start with
saying us what type of car your job is about
and what you whant to do?

i am sure than we can help you

rambit
22nd August, 2017, 03:53 PM
Ha ha Ha Sorry my friend my error. I am busy with w204 and it has a A207 part number. All that happens is ignition turns and thats it. When i fit another set car drives while i repair. I have esl which is not fatal error and key (BGA) that reads. Can you explain the way forward for me?

My special key is

DFE8896C76C627F1

daxxer
22nd August, 2017, 06:38 PM
Ha ha Ha Sorry my friend my error. I am busy with w204 and it has a A207 part number. All that happens is ignition turns and thats it. When i fit another set car drives while i repair. I have esl which is not fatal error and key (BGA) that reads. Can you explain the way forward for me?
My special key is
DFE8896C76C627F1

Thanks: 5 only ???? :stupid:

you are here on DK forum from Sep 2011 and use in 6 years only 5x Thanks button to others ???? :(

your special key is nice...for what reason you posted it ??? :D :D

ascotauto
22nd August, 2017, 07:32 PM
I quote
" Ha ha Ha Sorry my friend my error. I am busy with w204 and it has a A207 part number. All that happens is ignition turns and thats it. When i fit another set car drives while i repair. I have esl which is not fatal error and key (BGA) that reads. Can you explain the way forward for me?"

Hi

Please dont get me wrong my brother i am based in a workshop where two guys share one computer one DK user is always online on that computer. With the recent upgrades to dk we were unable to log in from other user (ascotauto). My apologies and i have fixed that issue with login. I shall login from another user so you may see the thanks. I am here to help just like you just not from this account. Apologies again. This is the real account im supposed to login in from. Truth or not ask admin to check login /ip address/ the rambit account does not get used but respectfully so i hear your message loud and clear. Please to meet you too

bluesky2010
23rd August, 2017, 02:35 AM
Hi,

somebody can tell me why i get write vin failed in cr4 ecu?
I renewed but cant write a vin.
What i missing?
Whit DAS i must connect online to get vin write.

Thanks in advance!
Before activate ecu .you can write vin by fvdi. After that you personalize and activate.


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shanektm450
23rd August, 2017, 06:10 AM
Hi I have a w204 2075450108 and need erase pass here is special key: 370C45EE655DA1F1
Thanks
Shane

Hi is it possible to get erase pass for this one??

shanektm450
23rd August, 2017, 06:24 AM
Hi vvdi needs to sort out the erase pass fault on 207 eis I am getting alot of them now even to reuse a ecu is a problem . Can someone help with this special key: 30CF43640652D892
Thanks
Shane

auto techniek
23rd August, 2017, 06:48 PM
Hi

I m curious and need to know the difference.

The most MB key format are V051. Formay V011 i s for old motorola keys. What about format V041?

ascotauto
23rd August, 2017, 07:17 PM
Thanks: 5 only ???? :stupid:

you are here on DK forum from Sep 2011 and use in 6 years only 5x Thanks button to others ???? :(

your special key is nice...for what reason you posted it ??? :D :D


Hi Again

I am hoping you can assist me or anyone on this thread please? I still have a problem that i need assistance with. If i have done something wrong please let me know so it can be fixed. Thanks in advance

alexxxb0450
23rd August, 2017, 08:40 PM
Hi

I m curious and need to know the difference.

The most MB key format are V051. Formay V011 i s for old motorola keys. What about format V041?

ive seen this type on w211
but ive seen at diagspeed site that you have to generate v41 for keyless

daxxer
24th August, 2017, 06:06 AM
ive seen this type on w211
but ive seen at diagspeed site that you have to generate v41 for keyless

for keyless ? are sure mate ? :D :D oh god..... :listen:

alexxxb0450
24th August, 2017, 07:50 AM
for keyless ? are sure mate ? :D :D oh god..... :listen:
yes i sure
just check diagspeed site and look video

ascotauto
24th August, 2017, 08:37 AM
Hi Again

I am hoping you can assist me or anyone on this thread please? I still have a problem that i need assistance with. If i have done something wrong please let me know so it can be fixed. Thanks in advance

Anyone? Or is no one going to assist me because i posted from a profile i dont use because i could not get login because the site was being upgraded?

alexxxb0450
24th August, 2017, 06:24 PM
Anyone? Or is no one going to assist me because i posted from a profile i dont use because i could not get login because the site was being upgraded?
just tell what you want to do and what you have
in your posts you write a lot of words

rambit
25th August, 2017, 04:23 PM
Special thanks to Mr Vanos Bantam for the assistance.. We got our problem sorted..Mr daxxer unfortunately if u feel u don't want to assist u cud have jus said..but there others willing to assist..but thanks for the criticism any way..MR Vanos is the real hero here

auto techniek
25th August, 2017, 05:05 PM
Hi

Need some help

Client asked to make a spare key on location for W463 from 2005

Can I read eis with Ir/obd and get password from working key or do I ve te remove the EIS to read on bench?

mercis
25th August, 2017, 05:09 PM
you can read ir/obd pw and dump

daxxer
25th August, 2017, 06:50 PM
yes i sure
just check diagspeed site and look video

i not need check any video....about key dump types ;) ;) ;) its clear everything :listen:

auto techniek
25th August, 2017, 08:11 PM
i not need check any video....about key dump types ;) ;) ;) its clear everything :listen:Anyone ever done keyless go with vvdi mb?
We hear nothing about this option.
I can see that NEC adapter can do the job according to manual.

daxxer
25th August, 2017, 08:24 PM
Anyone ever done keyless go with vvdi mb?
We hear nothing about this option.
I can see that NEC adapter can do the job according to manual.

yes, some NEC versions are possible to renew/program :-) for example v08 :listen:

alexxxb0450
25th August, 2017, 09:35 PM
i not need check any video....about key dump types ;) ;) ;) its clear everything :listen:
you know all?
thank you god that you are here :) :)- if you you dont attempt any minds
i just write that i have seen

alexxxb0450
25th August, 2017, 09:37 PM
Hi

Need some help

Client asked to make a spare key on location for W463 from 2005

Can I read eis with Ir/obd and get password from working key or do I ve te remove the EIS to read on bench?
just read on bench and all will be ok
or pay for token

daxxer
25th August, 2017, 10:59 PM
you know all?
thank you god that you are here :) :)- if you you dont attempt any minds
i just write that i have seen

something i know...something not...i'm not any god of the world... ;)

leandroks
26th August, 2017, 04:10 AM
Hi there, i am trying to read elv w204 with blue adaptor, i ve desolder nec chip from pcb and solder it on the blue adaptor, but when i try to read it on the vvdi software i always get the fail message, could any1 tell me if i am doing something wrong?? I am using the blue adptor showed on the pic, is it right, or do i have to have the elv adptor to get it working??????

Thanks...

daxxer
26th August, 2017, 07:32 AM
Hi there, i am trying to read elv w204 with blue adaptor, i ve desolder nec chip from pcb and solder it on the blue adaptor, but when i try to read it on the vvdi software i always get the fail message, could any1 tell me if i am doing something wrong?? I am using the blue adptor showed on the pic, is it right, or do i have to have the elv adptor to get it working??????

Thanks...

oh god :D your blue adapter are only for NEC key mcu, for ELV NEC mcu you need ELV adapter with socket :listen:

leandroks
26th August, 2017, 01:17 PM
So there is no way to renew elv using the device wich comes together with vvdi??? That is a good news, so it is useless whitout elv adaptor??
Good to know it is not even mencinated on the manual.
Thanks for your reply..

BR


Leo

Ok, so i need some help, if someone can shed some light i would be thankfull.
I ve got a w204 with unrepairable elv, and that car has just bga keys.
I ve got MB Full simon touch wich could do the job if i would have the .51 or .57 keys to read the password, so in this case it is useless, my question is, would be possible to renew the esl with simon touch (wich does it ok) and use vvdi to adpt again to the car???
Thanks a lot




In better words, can i adapt an already renewed esl from other car using vvdi????
Cheers

dmp
27th August, 2017, 03:09 PM
Here's a scenario, hoping somebody can identify something I missed


2009 R320, my friend had one damaged key (v57) and one good key. Lost the good key.

Also had intermittent ignition switch issues so had an oem new switch and blue key, uninstalled.

I was able to get the password out of the v57 key (and confirmed ssid same as the eis). New BE and V51/V57 (tried all three) keys will not synch to the eis. Car keeps computing data and led stays on the key. Tried activating the keys through VVDI and still not recognized.
I also noticed it showed 9xx,xxx kms in the eis reading which is very wrong.

Unable to renew the existing EIS (W164 2009-) with key and erase passwords.

Installed the new EIS, loaded data with blue key. Read new EIS for hashes, made new keys (both BE and V51), neither would synch and eis refuses to activate. Kms are accurate on this eis when read.

Tried reading both on the bench with gateway, same issues as with in the car.


Any ideas to try next??

alexxxb0450
27th August, 2017, 04:02 PM
Here's a scenario, hoping somebody can identify something I missed


2009 R320, my friend had one damaged key (v57) and one good key. Lost the good key.

Also had intermittent ignition switch issues so had an oem new switch and blue key, uninstalled.

I was able to get the password out of the v57 key (and confirmed ssid same as the eis). New BE and V51/V57 (tried all three) keys will not synch to the eis. Car keeps computing data and led stays on the key. Tried activating the keys through VVDI and still not recognized.
I also noticed it showed 9xx,xxx kms in the eis reading which is very wrong.

Unable to renew the existing EIS (W164 2009-) with key and erase passwords.

Installed the new EIS, loaded data with blue key. Read new EIS for hashes, made new keys (both BE and V51), neither would synch and eis refuses to activate. Kms are accurate on this eis when read.

Tried reading both on the bench with gateway, same issues as with in the car.


Any ideas to try next??
take old hashes, pass you have and write it in renew ezs then calculate key for unused position and all will work fine
big km reading - when someone change milege or ezs is broken

dmp
27th August, 2017, 04:59 PM
take old hashes, pass you have and write it in renew ezs then calculate key for unused position and all will work fine
big km reading - when someone change milege or ezs is broken

The newly installed eis, coded by factory blue key won't activate. VVDI says not to renew or else it will likely become unusable. I've tried making keys off its hashes but same result.

Original EIS won't renew.

Suggest to buy a third EIS and just code it with the hashes? Assumed the mercedes blue key (confirming all unused hashes identical) would have coded it properly, it just won't activate with a used or unused key position.

daxxer
27th August, 2017, 05:10 PM
Here's a scenario, hoping somebody can identify something I missed


2009 R320, my friend had one damaged key (v57) and one good key. Lost the good key.

Also had intermittent ignition switch issues so had an oem new switch and blue key, uninstalled.

I was able to get the password out of the v57 key (and confirmed ssid same as the eis). New BE and V51/V57 (tried all three) keys will not synch to the eis. Car keeps computing data and led stays on the key. Tried activating the keys through VVDI and still not recognized.
I also noticed it showed 9xx,xxx kms in the eis reading which is very wrong.

Unable to renew the existing EIS (W164 2009-) with key and erase passwords.

Installed the new EIS, loaded data with blue key. Read new EIS for hashes, made new keys (both BE and V51), neither would synch and eis refuses to activate. Kms are accurate on this eis when read.

Tried reading both on the bench with gateway, same issues as with in the car.


Any ideas to try next??

many wrong steps :listen:
- mainly manualy activated keys with VVDI :stupid:
i recomended to VVDI factory to remove this function, almost every people use this function without any knowlege... :stupid:


The newly installed eis, coded by factory blue key won't activate. VVDI says not to renew or else it will likely become unusable. I've tried making keys off its hashes but same result.
Original EIS won't renew.
Suggest to buy a third EIS and just code it with the hashes? Assumed the mercedes blue key (confirming all unused hashes identical) would have coded it properly, it just won't activate with a used or unused key position.

you can renew this new EIS, but only when you are profi and have some knowlege about what you can to do...otherwise not did that :listen:
because after you tried it - you can't bring this EIS back to live ;)

dmp
27th August, 2017, 05:47 PM
I only tried 'activate key' after many attempts otherwise. I recall reading it sometimes is needed on w208/w210 and some w164s. Was worth trying as the key wouldn't synch up after many tries.

Please elaborate what you meant by: "you can renew this new EIS, but only when you are profi and have some knowlege about what you can to do...otherwise not did that"

I have renewed and recoded w211, w209, w204/w207 EIS's several times, never received that warning before so stopped.

@daxxer, please elaborate where the wrong steps were. I've read extensively and I must have interpreted something incorrectly. To clarify what I've done:

- Extract password from damaged key. Make new key on posn 8 for original eis after reading hashes. Would not synchronize.

- Tried making key 1 (used). Same result.

- Tried both BE keys and renewed v51 and v57 keys.

- Tried activating be key. No difference.

- Tried renewing EIS. stops at 60% every time.

- Installed factory new EIS and coded with blue key by vin. Successfully coded new eis but not yet activated.

- Read hashes out of new eis, first 3 used keys had different hashes as expected, remaining 5 had identical hashes to old EIS.

- Made key 1 and 8 for new EIS. would not synch.

- Tried to synch on bench with gateway. Same result.

My next thought is to just get a junkyard EIS with key, extract password and renew it, program it to the car, make a new key and go. Can't figure out why the new EIS won't synchronize though, with mileage reading and intermittent issues, I expect the old EIS to be damaged. Just cannot figure out why it won't align.




many wrong steps :listen:
- mainly manualy activated keys with VVDI :stupid:
i recomended to VVDI factory to remove this function, almost every people use this function without any knowlege... :stupid:



you can renew this new EIS, but only when you are profi and have some knowlege about what you can to do...otherwise not did that :listen:
because after you tried it - you can't bring this EIS back to live ;)

kostas
27th August, 2017, 05:55 PM
Please I would like to look at this error message.
And the device every time I connect is requesting an upgrade firmware,

THANKS

daxxer
27th August, 2017, 06:18 PM
I only tried 'activate key' after many attempts otherwise. I recall reading it sometimes is needed on w208/w210 and some w164s. why you tried that ? why you don't keep to EIS to activate the key ??? its his work, not yours... :stupid: unuseful step Was worth trying as the key wouldn't synch up after many tries.

Please elaborate what you meant by: "you can renew this new EIS, but only when you are profi and have some knowlege about what you can to do...otherwise not did that"

I have renewed and recoded w211, w209, w204/w207 EIS's several times, never received that warning before so stopped. yes, renew normal(original EIS) is standard easy, but not EIS as replaced part marked by factory :listen:

@daxxer, please elaborate where the wrong steps were. I've read extensively and I must have interpreted something incorrectly. To clarify what I've done:

- Extract password from damaged key. Make new key on posn 8 for original eis after reading hashes. Would not synchronize. why make key only to post 8 ??? you can calc keys to anyone track....from first to latest :listen:

- Tried making key 1 (used). Same result. sure, its clear... :D

- Tried both BE keys and renewed v51 and v57 keys.

- Tried activating be key. No difference. forget this step to future yet...its clear, when this function isn't for you :listen:

- Tried renewing EIS. stops at 60% every time. clear why....

- Installed factory new EIS and coded with blue key by vin. Successfully coded new eis but not yet activated. yes...need to activate with VALID key....but you haven't it !!!

- Read hashes out of new eis, first 3 used keys had different hashes as expected, remaining 5 had identical hashes to old EIS. thats clear too, but you don't know why i think....

- Made key 1 and 8 for new EIS. would not synch. yes, its clear again....you haven't VALID key !!!

- Tried to synch on bench with gateway. Same result.

My next thought is to just get a junkyard EIS with key, extract password and renew it, program it to the car, make a new key and go. Can't figure out why the new EIS won't synchronize though, with mileage reading and intermittent issues, I expect the old EIS to be damaged. Just cannot figure out why it won't align.

- i think your key pass exctracted from bad key isn't valid !!!
- read EIS as AKL to get 100% valid key pass, after you calc right key dumps...and use BE key, must work like a charm...
- what EIS part numbers ???
- when you are not far or you can send me the old EIS for example by post or other service, then i try bring it back to live with valid keys

dmp
27th August, 2017, 06:23 PM
That would make sense. I tried reading the password of the ori key several times but it could have easily had wrong pwd if corrupted! Would also explain inability to renew old eis



- i think your key pass exctracted from bad key isn't valid !
- read EIS as AKL to get 100% valid key pass, after you calc right key dumps...and use BE key, must work like a charm...
- what EIS part numbers ???
- when you are not far or you can send me the old EIS for example by post or other service, then i try bring it back to live with valid keys

daxxer
27th August, 2017, 06:33 PM
That would make sense. I tried reading the password of the ori key several times but it could have easily had wrong pwd if corrupted! Would also explain inability to renew old eis

yes, everything its clear and easy....when is key pass not valid - for example from corrupted bad key, how you want to renew EIS success ??? or synchro new key success ??? or synchro new key with new EIS success ??? .....all only unuseful steps... :listen:
forget for function about activate keys manualy....the key must be activated in EIS with EIS help, not with yours hands...!!!
you can't substituted that anytime !!!

dmp
27th August, 2017, 06:40 PM
yes, everything its clear and easy....when is key pass not valid - for example from corrupted bad key, how you want to renew EIS success ??? or synchro new key success ??? or synchro new key with new EIS success ??? .....all only unuseful steps... :listen:
forget for function about activate keys manualy....the key must be activated in EIS with EIS help, not with yours hands...!!!
you can't substituted that anytime !!!

Thank you!

And re activate - was a 'nothing else makes sense so might as well try' step, not expected proper outcome but documented what I did nonetheless.

I had read that passwords often still able to be extracted from damaged key.

I will try one last thing to rule out option - to restore the saved key dump prior to password extraction and see if that will align with the old eis. Otherwise will try all keys lost password extraction on it.

Thank you for your clarification, I knew it was a bad assumption somewhere along the way.

daxxer
27th August, 2017, 07:17 PM
Thank you!
And re activate - was a 'nothing else makes sense so might as well try' step, not expected proper outcome but documented what I did nonetheless.
I had read that passwords often still able to be extracted from damaged key.
I will try one last thing to rule out option - to restore the saved key dump prior to password extraction and see if that will align with the old eis. Otherwise will try all keys lost password extraction on it.
Thank you for your clarification, I knew it was a bad assumption somewhere along the way.

only with AKL way you can now have 100% valid key pass....don't waste time with other attempts...
bad key can be sure bad corrupt mcu dump...this is not so much sure way to build some house on them... :listen:

hipolitogt
27th August, 2017, 07:33 PM
Hi friends,

Where to buy good quality keys without paying too much? Here in Spain is too much comparing prices in china... Xydz are good keys? Like this:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170827/3e84d77d1caed6aefa59d201e6926d33.jpg

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autoTkey
28th August, 2017, 08:13 AM
Yes, those are good but have some issues from time to time, like erasing it's EEPROM on some older cars like W210 and you have to reprogram them again.
Also on some newer cars automatic gears have problems when using this key. But it is a very rare problem.
I have heard those problems may have something to do with "Mark values", so it is worth to copy the original values from a working key.

auto techniek
31st August, 2017, 06:22 AM
Hi

Did you tried different BE keys.

I ve yesterday same problem. made key with the right password.Some how is BE key was faulty. Changed key and programmed. Key synchronise immediately.


Thank you!

And re activate - was a 'nothing else makes sense so might as well try' step, not expected proper outcome but documented what I did nonetheless.

I had read that passwords often still able to be extracted from damaged key.

I will try one last thing to rule out option - to restore the saved key dump prior to password extraction and see if that will align with the old eis. Otherwise will try all keys lost password extraction on it.

Thank you for your clarification, I knew it was a bad assumption somewhere along the way.

dmp
31st August, 2017, 12:26 PM
Hi

Did you tried different BE keys.

I ve yesterday same problem. made key with the right password.Some how is BE key was faulty. Changed key and programmed. Key synchronise immediately.Yes. Tried a few BE keys and some v51 and v57 original keys

All signs point to corrupted password in damaged key (first tried to read it when the tool started corrupting keys).

Doing it AKL. Waiting on my fast tool so did it with the 500x IR in and out.....which failed. Will do it over when I have 2 more hours to waste.

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daxxer
31st August, 2017, 01:02 PM
Yes. Tried a few BE keys and some v51 and v57 original keys

All signs point to corrupted password in damaged key (first tried to read it when the tool started corrupting keys).

Doing it AKL. Waiting on my fast tool so did it with the 500x IR in and out.....which failed. Will do it over when I have 2 more hours to waste.

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You don' have power adapter ? there not need reinsert IR adapter so much times...only wait... ;)

dmp
31st August, 2017, 02:21 PM
You don' have power adapter ? there not need reinsert IR adapter so much times...only wait... ;)It arrives next week [emoji1]

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jman1530
1st September, 2017, 10:27 PM
I tried today to unlock esl nec. It was successful and I loaded the eis data and key password, clicked on auto clear tp and personalized and then tried t write it but it keeps saying writing data failed stuck on 20%. I tried to write with adaptor and by obd same thing. I tried another unlocked nec chip, same thing. Also renewed eis still doesn't work. The esl part number and serial changes after unlock. What am I doing wrong?

dmp
2nd September, 2017, 12:19 AM
I tried today to unlock esl nec. It was successful and I loaded the eis data and key password, clicked on auto clear tp and personalized and then tried t write it but it keeps saying writing data failed stuck on 20%. I tried to write with adaptor and by obd same thing. I tried another unlocked nec chip, same thing. Also renewed eis still doesn't work. The esl part number and serial changes after unlock. What am I doing wrong?Assuming w204/207 type?

Try renew eis.
Then re write data and before activating with the key, personalise esl from the eis menu.

Then insert key into eis and allow to activate.

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daxxer
2nd September, 2017, 07:24 AM
Assuming w204/207 type?

Try renew eis.
Then re write data and before activating with the key, personalise esl from the eis menu.

Then insert key into eis and allow to activate.

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not need did this way, he have problem with his NEC, through unlock process has damaged eeprom data and now not more possible to use it again....no way :listen:

jman1530
2nd September, 2017, 12:31 PM
Yes I think unlocking nec the data was corrupted. Anyone else had this problem?

vageric
2nd September, 2017, 03:43 PM
yes, happen once in a while!

daxxer
2nd September, 2017, 04:52 PM
Yes I think unlocking nec the data was corrupted. Anyone else had this problem?

almost all W204 ELV units stopped working without AA - error blocked in NEC, then enough only renew and can be reused again ( after some other steps ;) )
the rest - hard blocked in NEC can be unlocked, but 20-30% of this case not unlocked rightly...and thats for example your case... :listen:

Frankcar
5th September, 2017, 08:58 AM
Hello Friends
After reading password with vvdi BGA key ( spare key ) via OBD
Now Audio system on but Sound Audio mute ( On Radio and CD )
C200 w204 (12.2012) - EIS: 207 545 01 08
No DTC
can anyone help me for this problem ?